What If VEGETA was the LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- How would Dragon Ball change if VEGETA was the Legendary Super Saiyan?
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So, last week I explained what would happen if Goku was the “Legendary Super Saiyan” or what I called having Broly’s potential later in the video, and why it wouldn’t really work out for crafting a story, but another character does fit here perfectly - the Saiyan Prince Vegeta. You see, Vegeta having an abnormally high power level was something expected as the child of the King and him being 5 years older than Goku puts him off world at the time of Planet Vegeta’s destruction. While this base power increase would be notable, it actually wouldn’t mean Vegeta has access to Broly’s Full Power Super Saiyan form immediately.
As a quick catch up, I explained in my last video how Broly’s transformations work and they are different then normal Super Saiyan. If you want more details go there, but regardless just know that he can’t transform immediately. So, the story actually goes unchanged from this point beside Vegeta being stronger than canon and Broly being on Planet Vegeta when it blows up since Vegeta is the one with his mutation now NOT Broly. From here, we can fast forward to the Saiyan Saga. The fight against Raditz and even the initial fight with Nappa don’t change so our story actually begins in the wasteland.
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Pleaseeeeeeeeee part 2
Can you do a what if ssj 4 Was canon in DBS?
I don't like how you explained about the LSSJ prophecy, it just doesn't make sense at all. We all know that What if'ers bend the rules of the storyline, just please think of how the other Dragon Ball characters can alter the what if. Example: Bardock would've prevented King Vegeta's scientists scanning LSSJ Kakarot's power level, since he knows King Vegeta would STILL exile the baby.
I think you should redo the if goku was the legendary super Saiyan or at least make an alternate because if you think about in the video you said that he would in the elite capsules like broly was and if that's the case then technically king Vegeta would discover his potential jus like he did with Broly and exile him to make bardock and gine go after him like Paragus did
What if King vegeta visited kakarott?
This time when Vegeta says he's the Legendary Super Saiyan to Frieza, he'll be telling the truth...
"You arnt dealing with the average saiyan warrior anymore*
i was thinking the same thing
@@ltphantomknight8942 “I feel like this is repeating” “IVE BECOME A SUPER SAIYAN” “oh my God this is repeating again”
@@jimbothetimbo6790 😂
Only reason I'm rewatching
Looks like Beerus realized he wasn’t dealing with the average saiyan warrior.
He was dealing a crazy Sayia-Jin warrior
He's risen above and become a legend...
@@paragusthesaiyan1204 HE IS THE LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN
@@paragusthesaiyan1204 the Legendary super Saiyan
So glad I get this 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Another thing that would change in this timeline, Vegeta's ego. It would be as massive as his power.
Ok
True just like how he did to cell getting all cocky cuz he had more of a power boost then cell and was just stronger
@@DemzBeatzz his power is maximum, but his ego is maximum-er
@@DemzBeatzz are you okay
Pure, unadulterated ego
Vegtea: I want to be a legdary super sayain I WANNA I WANNA
Well it did take a lot of sit ups and push ups and some juice, but he finally did it.
LMAO Vegeta!?!
What's better salad sayain or carthu dojos what if Vegtea was the LSS I think there both good 👍
I like both. They both have a unique take to the situation and were both entertaining.
abridged hahahaha
“I’ll take some pride in knowing it took lord Beerus to take me down”
-Vegeta in battle of gods
"Indeed, you shall die with your honor in tact."
So that’s the tale of the Legendary Prince. Went out with not a bang, but a whimper. Of many versions of Vegeta, this one is perhaps the saddest soul.
begs the question about how loud is a hakai
@@yeetmaster-eb1xq Well, the one used on Zamasu was pretty quiet, it was his screaming that was loud.
Yep.
Honestly this version of Vegeta deserves it
I think it was a bang and then a whimper.
If Beerus really felt this way, you gotta wonder why he doesn’t even want to see Broly fight.
Beers is lazy
@@MWH12085 beers are indeed lazy...
@@Light-sg7tk frickin auto correct
@@MWH12085 😂🤣 Mean.
@@MWH12085 also couldn't even edit it till now
Vegeta is finally tall, the best use of the Ikari form
Beerus: Fuck this let's kill him he is to strong
God form: but.... I...
I like UI vegeta but I do like evolved Vegeta
@@jimbothetimbo6790 i am just a Vegeta fanboy
It does not matter the form
@@italhs5087 respek
Name of Video: What if Goku was the LSSJ.
Thumbnail and Description: What if Vegeta was the LSSJ.
Edit: He fixed it.
I didn't even notice until you said that lol
he fixed it
i saw it too it was funny
How did you write before the video got out ?
@@ismid7084 it was a premeire
Doesn't it feel wrong that something Broly level wouldn't be able to overpower a hakai? I feel like Vegeta's pride would turn to rage and after almost being engulfed by the attack, he'd overpower it like Frieza did when hit by a hakai. After that, Whis would have had to knock out this version of Vegeta. I feel like all these what ifs that involve Vegeta end with his death and this would be the one instance where he'd come out at least with a possible future.
The hakai he used is the one he used on zamasu to completely erase him I believe than the hakai balls
Whis would probably let Vegeta kill Beerus then knock him out then request he assume the god of destruction role when he wakes
Beerus is the strongest Hakaishin, unlike the one that trying to assasinate freeza. On top of that Beerus limit is still unknown because its seems like Goku and Vegeta in the manga rn still not a match for beerus. If Gogeta Kamehameha enough to kill Brolly then i dont see why Beerus with unknown limit cant erase this Vegeta .
Bro's comparing Toppo with beerus💀💀
I feel like you should genuinely do more vegeta what if’s because ones like these are my favorites and i think this is one of your best ever
Right? Everyone says Goku and Vegeta get all the spotlight in the show but then in the what ifs it's all Gohan, Goku, Broly, and Bardock. Second tier is Raditz, Krillin, Piccolo, Tien, and even Roshi or Kami. Then you get your Friezas, Cells, and Jirens.
More often than not, Vegeta gets screwed over in the end of most. Either he's killed off early or constantly humiliated throughout. Everyone is always miles ahead of him (Gohan and the entire Son family, sometimes Nappa, Piccolo and the humans, etc etc). And even when he wins, he loses. Case and point, this one. Beerus destroyed him for doing the thing he wanted him to do, provide a challenge. And that's almost always how the ones where Vegeta "wins" end, he gets hakai'd out of existence by Beerus or the universe gets erased by Zeno.
@@xwarriorone cap I think this what if was worst for him in the end
I love how carthu basically just made vegeta the main character of the series by giving him potential and doing vegeta the justice he deserves!
nah I think this is worse for him in the end. Cuz he never truly develops and his ego is the same
@@CloverKyng The ego is what makes him my favourite character, no bullshit about family, no bullshit about friends, just a man with his own power and he’s a fucking monster
He is also by his own hand, the last surviving saiyan because he killed Nappa for losing to Kakarott then Earth because he lost his tail to weaklings.
144p 👍
@@littleaqua32 His brother is out there, no?
Carthu: vegeta absolutely manhandles dodoria
Also carthu: its growing fast and continues to keep growing
Lesson of the day,If Carthu make a LSSJ vid, prepare for war kids
On my birthday?! Carthu you shouldn’t have 🥺
😳😳😳😳😳
Happy late birthday!
i know
Erasing vegeta from existence, killing broly, destroying earth??????
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEE
C'MOOOOOOOOOOON
Vegeta becoming the legendary super saiyan actually would be very cool.
“One believes in natural born talent.” While this is true and we don’t really know vegetas training regiment before this moment. Vegeta worked harder then any other person in the series.
I like to think he trains harder than anyone because he was proven wrong in thinking that talent beats hard work.
@@thetruegavinator So he wants both.
@@titanictnt7476 yessir.
except Goku 💀
Thats not canon the old bardock special no longer is canon
The only thing we saw from kid vegeta in canon besides being scared of beerus
Is him nappa radditz and 2 saiyans conquering a planet when planet vegeta was destroyed
"Shocking, I know" funniest line ever
Yeah...it was so funny, I can't sleep thinking about it.
Do what if Vegeta was the LSSJ and Goku was born with god kii. That would make the story more balanced
Yeah
Well goku would be looked as more of a weakling than before
Goku still would sta d no chance lol
Your's and Salad Saiyans discussions are godly but also feel chill.
Title: What if Goku Was the Legendary Super Saiyan
Thumbnail: What if Vegeta was the Legendary Super Saiyan
Me: 🤨🤨🤨
🧐🧐🧐
lool
Stfu
It ends with them both being dead😆😆
Wait, why does Beerus care about anyone being "good"? He was fine with letting Frieza exist for decades, even before he slept.
Truetrue
late reply but, I would assume because this Vegeta is not only MUCH stronger than Frieza at this rate, but also his power is constantly growing and growing. With no end in sight. Beerus probably realized this and... fearing that Vegeta may even surpass him. Killed him, but you are right. I doubt it was cuz he wasn't "good" and more as a "threat" Beerus could easily stomp Frieza, assuming if he was still living. Not so much a Vegeta who has Broly's potential.
Every video you put out makes me drop what I'm doing and go watch.
I was just about to request this on your other video!!!
I would like to see you make this what if (even if saiyan salad already did it lol)
Woah! This was way different from Salad’s what if, still an awesome video though, nice job Carthu!
Now for the next what-if.... What If GOHAN was the Legendary Super Saiyan
What if Joe was the legendary super saiyan
@@hyperfire1446 joe mama deez nuts
So just a 20 minute vid of Gohan beating every main villain?
There wouldn't be a challenge for Gohan, even with cell.
@@hyperfire1446 joe mama
@Jaidon Thomas have you watch dbz he ain't gaining control
i am waiting for the premieres and am i high or does the thumbnail say vegeta gnd title say goku
Or are we all high?
@@soulmcnulty5708 I am unfortunately not high so I can say that something I just didn't even notice
Why is it unfortunate?
@iSpeakFacts Bruh I am high that's for sure but I came well after the mistake was made since I was asleep at the time.
@@soulmcnulty5708 because not being high is no fun.
This was very realistic. Although it’s unfortunate that the heroes died it’s still very realistic
“You see frieza you’re not dealing with the average sayin warrior”
Damn bro you a real one you even made sure Salad Saiyan was cool with doing the same topic
What if Vegeta was LSSJ?
Lemme get my Vegeta voice ready.
*cough cough* I AM THE HYPE
I love that you and SaladSaiyan have a good standing i would LOVE to see a collab with both your characters being Zfighters together
I feel this will be a longer video than the usual
But still I’m hyped 🔥
i cant believe that only 20% of people are subbed. Your videos are the best, keep up the good work :)
He would have a million subs
@@nehaalkhalid3436 If only he made what ifs for much longer than 2017.
Would it be possible to change race, such as from a Human to a Saiyan, using the Dragon Balls? I've had this thought for days and think it would be a good What If. Like Tien or Yamcha or even Yajirobe using the Dragon Balls and becoming a Saiyan. Would Shen Long or Porunga even be able to grant that wish?
Salad Saiyan just started a series doing it with ChiChi and MasakoX has an ongoing one with Krillin.
Thanks for letting me know! Would love to see it with Yamcha, or just all the humans in general. I would also like to see what Carthu would do different.
@@enlightning7978 Masako-X is also running a story where Yamcha became an Android like 17 and 18, but its not "What of Yamcha was an android" its something that happened because of another What-If, though I admit I forget which one it is. I think its "What if Hercule trained like Goku?"
He is also doing one called what-if called "What if Yajarobe trained like Goku."
@@darknessbobulus Yajirobe? dang, now i gotta watch. i gotta start watching Masako-X, sounds like he makes cool stuff.
Honestly love the channel, been the only DB/DBZ/DBS what if channel that felt right and the most natural
Alternate title:Vegeta's wildest dream
And his worst nightmare.
14:22 Hooray! Vegeta has officially become 6 foot tall legendary super Saiyan.
Vegeta gets the height he deserves.
@@BellaStudios nah he shrinks instead
oof!
This might actually go down differently.
Yeah, there was an actual story this time. Vegeta kicked major butt
Hey Carthu, would you mind making one of the following:
-What if Rigor from Dragon Ball: New Age was canon?
-What if Frieza trained in hell for 20 years before his revival? (Goku and Vegeta would likely use fusion to win)
-What if Goku merged SSJ4 with SSJB?
-What if Kale had Broly's power level and adaptive abilities? And would that let Universe 6 win the tournament?
-What if Caulifla and Kale grew up in Universe 7?
-What if Caulifla was the LSSJ?
Its a lssj bargain sale!
I don't think he will do the first one.
My guy carthu hates db multiverse and so do I, so no I don’t think he’s ever going to do a what if on that
@@nathanmontgomery1516 He said Dragon Ball New age not Dragon Ball Multiverse.....
The second one, Goku & Vegeta would be destroyed, as Gogeta with God Ki since Frieza's potential is so op & broken.
Nice title bro
Carthu has been on a ROLL since the what if Goku & Broly were sent to earth series. Videos always been good but I’m enjoying them much more
What if goku is reborn as a baby again but remembers EVERYTHING...
Basically if Vegeta was the main character
I made a tweet about this a good while ago, I do think he will be the LSS because of him not adopting UI
Title: "What if Goku was the Legendary super saiyan"
Thumbnail: "What if VEGETA was the legendary super saiyan"
Me: *visible confusion*
Wth this video ain't even that old
@@austinprakash3344 patreons have early access to the video usually. But the video was probably edited to have a different title or something
@@austinprakash3344 when you're so early the video hasn't even started yet
Video: what if goku was the lssj
Thumbnail: what if vegeta was the lssj
Me: ok I believe you
DARKNESS
@@sorinsnow3232
Pure Darkness
@@colerowe8890 stfu
Was that a motherflipping just a pancake reference?!
@@joyconboyz4525 yeah
This was beautiful
"and Vegeta grows even bigger!" Wow, he must be a whole 5 ft tall now :D
The thing is strength always seems to balance out in dragonball it’s like a universal prerequisite (for example when the main cast gets stronger due to trunks travelling back in time the androids are just stronger in that timeline)
The androids weren't "stronger" in Trunks's timeline (both Androids from the future and the past have the same power level);They used less power because that timeline's
Z-fighters were weaker
If you stack ikari with SSJ wouldn't that mean a 500x increase?
It's a widely accepted theory that many DragonBall YTers are now denying because they want views and are running out of content ideas. If Vegeta stacked Ikari and LSSJ together, the multiplier would have taken him to 1.5billion on Namek, not the same level as regular SSJ Goku. When these people really don't want to do a what-if, they nerf the character Death Battle style; like how Carthu straight up ignored the fact that in less than 6 hours Broly with his own potential went from below SSJ Vegeta to matching a SSB fusion while this version of Vegeta has had the form for literally almost 20 years and trains regularly and is still fodder for a Beerus that barely has a handle on the first fraction of UI.
It's also why he makes these types of what-ifs one-shots, because he either hates the character or he hates the premise.
Or it would be 60x increase
I don't think it's possible for multiplier themselves to multiply with eachother to make a new form multiplier
@@trohyme in the Ikari/Super Saiyan case, it would be possible.
Ssj1,2,and 3 are all the same transformation fundementally, with Akira Toriyama stating that 2 and 3 are just powered up variations of SSJ.
Oozaru/Ikari is a fundementally different transformation, there is nothing stopping a sufficiently powerful Oozaru from tapping into Super Saiyan.
10*50 would equal 500 in this case.
@@dreamcream3738 true.
Vegeta:i want to be the legendary super sayian!!!!
Carthu: ok...
Vegeta:cool
I'd love to see what an akari form Vegeta looks like
Oh, I thought maybe Chelai would take Bulma place, and we could get a child of the 2. That and him being alive longer than the first arc in super.
That would have been cool.
@@thelgiver5844 yeah.
Chelai has no reason to make friends or even meet Vegeta
When I saw the title for this video I was hoping you were going to go a different route, because I’ve thought about this actually being the case. Goku has no intention of being the god of destruction or rivaling berrus. He sets his sites for the grand priest/zenos. I feel like the actual saiyan that he has his vision on as far as rivaling him is vegeta. Goku doesn’t even really acknowledge their power or set out for it. He came a mfing angel damn near.
After reading the title first thing that came to mind was, "so you see Frieza. You're not dealing with the average Saiyan anymore. I AM the legendary SUPER SAIYAN."
Vegeta: Broly, mom said it's my turn with the legendary super saiyan.
Will you make a what if discussing SSJ4? Also Great Video!
I was expecting it to be salads, but again. However, it was completely different
Carthu 5 years later:
What if Vegeta went super Saiyan rainbow
I don’t know if anyone did this yet but you should do a what if planet vegeta and the saiyans were wished back!!!! That would be a cool concept!
Carthu already went over it.
Short answer: they can't
Long answer: Unless the super dragon balls are used most of the Saiyans would have already been reincarnated with their souls destroyed. And shenron has a limit to how long a large group of people can be revived.
@@diooverheaven4317 What would happen to the reincarnated souls if the Saiyans were resurrected?
Before watching the video I'm making a prediction: Vegeta will make everything for everyone else a living hell either directly or indirectly.
Amazing story, I do believe carthu only ended it this way since there isn’t enough material on the new broly so this story could only go so far
It’s mostly due to dragonball being an empty universe
@@lewispooper3138 With lack of creativity nowadays.
Ending makes sense.
Why would Beerus leave a evil maniac who can threat to his power alive
That ending just shows how much of a coward Beerus could be.
No not really if destroyer deems a person as a threat it is their job to destroy them that is how they bring order to the universe
@@yado4281 Vegeta Wasn't a threat to the Universe. He wasn't Moro. He was someone who threatened Beerus' position and power. If I was a GoD and challenged someone to a fight, I'm not gonna kill them because they surpassed me. I would have them do the GoD training and let them become the new one. I don't know how you would do it but that's the correct way.
@@zye4809 Vegeta at that point was a freiza and and as carthu said vegeta didn't want to be under anyones rule so once beerus had to do that
@@zye4809 you are just dumb then lmao this vegeta is like frieza there you gotta kill threat while you can
Do an what if android 17 didnt wish for the universe's to come back
They would have all been erased. They said that in the show.
Quick question from what if goku was the legendary super saiyan, if bardock was able to go in the baby elite section grabbed goku and squeezed his tail would his power drop so he could escape or is that just me?
Yeah, that could happen. But I doubt there is gonna be a redo
@@zettovii1367 Because Carthu is getting lazy with his stories
this would work out better as a "if vegeta had a higher potential" as by that logic goku should have been fine too in the other whatif aka gets sent to a planet right away to take it over ect. It would still be kinda the same starting out as vegeta without training much would increase in power very little and gets beaten up, vs goku, well he might be in better condition vs krilin in the end like catching his sword, but it wouldnt change much as he still gets away in the end.Changes would start further down the line with vegeta perhaps not dying yet while fighting friezza as his potential increased his total power to a level where he could survive the beatdown he took from friezza before goku arrived.That would already change something as thats an extra zenkai he would get once he heals, not to mention they would be bigger cause of his new potential.Other things like getting super saijan might not change (unless you say seeing and feeling ssj makes it easier for vegeta to unlock it) whatever i dont want to write the whole thing myself just an idea im pitching, since this while making sense could be better with more characters invovled.
it would be more interesting if you somehow let earth stay there, maybe krillin tells vegeta he can still get immortality if he goes to namek or something as a bluff vegeta would probably say "if your lying im coming back to kill you" then leave them alive and leave asap to get the namek dragon balls.
Geez...imagine if he couldn't find the TV remote!😉
One question couldn't we have just let both broly and vegeta have the mutation like king vegeta could have just made broly apart of vegeta's squad.
Well the video is what if VEGETA was the Legendary Super Saiyan. There is only one, plus nobody asks for them both to have that mutation. I guess the video we should request is 'What if Vegeta had Broly's potential too?'
The title should have been : What if Vegeta is the main character
7:14 quickly jaice SEIZURE PROCEDURE
I liked the story until the end. Lol. Geets is my favorite.
Makes sense he could control LSS because he maintains his personality in ozaru form.
I really like these logical what ifs they are a breath of fresh air - this was awesome
I love your videos and agree with them, but I feel like this one would have gone differently though. I did enjoy it though😁😁
Alternate title:Vegeta becomes the main character
Maybe you coud do what if Goku was sent to zenos word? And btw very good video keep it up.
Well 17:20 as Legendary Super Saiyan Vegeta would be way stronger then SSJ God already in base form. In full rage mode Beerus would not have a chance and would be too slow for even a hakai. Only Whis could still overpower him.
Man...
... Beerus really did Vegeta like that...
POV: vegeta selects single player instead of multi player
Do if whis trained frieza
If only Vegeta got the immortality...
The Hakai at least wouldnt work on him
And sure he was never going to get it from the namekians, but if as an emperor he got a set of them the way Granolah did he might have won in the end
Beerus could use something like the Zsword.
@@thekingdoggo6980
Yeah but you saw how easily it broke when Gohan tested it
If Vegeta can stall Beerus enough to surpass him then no matter how many of those Beerus has they'd all shatter when hitting Vegeta, Beerus would win if he used the sword before Vegeta surpassed him and reinforced it with his energy to ensure it wouldnt break in contact with him, but the problem is that Beerus is just as overconfident in his abilities as Vegeta so there's a good chance that when he decided to do that it would already be too late
Watching old videos before it premieres ☕
Something that these what ifs never remember to take into account if someone destroys the earth before the Buu saga is that... Buu's egg is on earth. I mean, by the time of the Saiyan Saga, Babidi has been on earth for a few decades by this point, but Buu's egg is here. And even without much "kili" to power him up, he'd still survive the destruction and see Vegeta there, and then start flying through space causing destruction, eating things and breaking planets. This would be Good Buu, true, so it'd be slow, but it'd still be something to deal with, and someone that no one can stop.
what if krillin had pressed the button to destroy android 18?
Yee
Cell would be killed by vegeta or trunks.
A18 wouldn't be in the Z-fighters.
Goku would still be alive.
Gohan would be stronger.
Buu wouldn't be revived.
Doesn't really change much beside universe 7 needing 2 new fighters.
@@diooverheaven4317and trunks, goku and vegeta being WAY weaker than cannon
Yeah Beerus in this what if would see Vegeta as a threat here. Plus without Goku and everybody else U7 is gone along with the other lower Universes. Anyways a good what if about Vegeta, and looking forward to the next what if.
What if suggestion:
What if Gohan was the Legendary Super Saiyan?
(Still hoping to see you do this idea at somepoint.)
WhiteBlade i think he talked about not that much apparently, he said that Cell wouldn't have his DNA and would make Cell a fodder villian
@@dragonzstyles6344 I know, but still hoping.
WhiteBlade yeah still would be cool tho
@@dragonzstyles6344 👍
Well his hair did go green at one point while transforming tho
And gokus aura was green when going blue in the broly movie. Why? It symbolized a connection between the saiyans. They FELT brolys rage, and power.
I love this art style!
as a super saiyan in the ikari form, I must point out that he (and also Broly, in his movie obviously) have the same multiplier as Golden Great Ape.
He really did goku like that
Pretty interesting
Your relationship with salad is like you're brothers
Next video's title"what if Goku was a Elite Saiyan class?" Pls make on this❤️
I can't believe that in his whole life he hadn't felt enraged or mad making him transform into Ikari. It had been 20 years working for Freeza and he hadn't shown, not even once, his great potential. If Freeza would've seen Vegeta exceeding the power level of his men, he would've killed Vegeta.
After this what if can you finish what if future Gohan survived part 5 and more
Vegeta in his legendary Super Saiyan full power form cannot be erased from existence with a simple hakai
Yes he would
@@kongthornton780 base goku survived one.
@@pixelatedink955 Goku survive because of Beerus and that wasn't a Hakai but Energy of Destruction
@@kongthornton780 what is the difference you tell me right now. Also you have some commitment to actually respond quite fast after the vid released a year ago.
@@pixelatedink955 (aww a year ago 2021) also it really isn't commitment I don't really have anything to do right now, As for the difference between The Name, they're also two different abilities and a Sphere of Destruction is a simple ki blast of Destruction and a Haki is something that destroys everything that makes up you and your soul and No one In Dragon ball has survived a Haki, only immortal beings can, Also In the manga Beerus shown he is still more powerful than Goku and Vegeta
Can’t wait for the video to be uploaded