WHAT. Holly J is being done dirty here! She has the best redemption story and becomes one of the best characters in the entire show! She’s easily one of my favorite characters from the entire span of the series! Why isn’t her final seasons being taken into account like other characters?? Sorry not sorry that’s BOVINE FECAL MATTER!
How strongly can I DISagree? Holly J's so-called "redemption" was so poorly written & acted, she went from Queen Bee to Saint Holly J on a dime. There was nothing organic about her change...it was just BOOM. And even when she was supposedly improved, she was still b*tchy. I was so glad to see her listed as worst on here.
@@WrenFaithBridger Holly J didn't become good "on a dime". Her family lost their money which knocked her down a peg, and she became more chill after having a gun pointed at her in season 8. She never became a "saint" but she did learn how to actually hold friendships and support other people
@@WrenFaithBridger she didn’t immediately become a saint, and yes she still had flaws like every other character, it took nearly all of season 8 for her to change, which in Degrassi time, is a long while. But I really think there are worse characters on the show BY FAR who never changed at all.
Interesting how you were able to identify the terrible things a character like Spinner did, while also being able to acknowledge his development, but you couldn't manage to do the same with Fiona and Holly J. All of their growth was glossed over.
Did they actually put Craig as one of the best characters? i can't lmao. are you forgetting him cheating on Ashley with Manny, beating up Joey lol, his problems with drugs (he ended up blaming it on Manny and manipulating Ellie) and again cheating in LA with Ellie. but you consider him best character for being a musician omg
@@shyniceflagg1685 I’m kinda stuck, he had really good storylines like with his father and when he was diagnosed with bipolar, but aside from that, he always cheated, lied and manipulated people, and never exactly grew from it. Even in Degrassi Goes Hollywood, he cheated on his girlfriend with Ellie.
Hun... Holly J and Paige are so similar but Holly J towards the end of her run was the sweetest whereas Paige slapped her best friend Marco... (tho they were both nice when they came back for DNC...) take their endgame performances into account!!!
Agreed. If there's ever a Part 2, he should be right at the top...er, I mean bottom. I'd also add Mo as a "best". Even though he was kind of a minor character, I just loved him.
Thing about videos like this they take into account everything the character has done in the series. Holly had good character development yeah but it still doesn’t change the fact she was a bully with no remorse at first.
Holly J and Fiona deserved so much better. Craig is the loml and even I can admit that he manipulated Ellie and Manny and led them on for years. As well as cheating on Ashley and not giving her credit for using on of her songs. Holly J and Fiona had 2 of the best character developments on the show which were completely disregarded. They were amazing, supportive, driven, people by the end of the show. Can we say that for Paige?
@@DollFairyCrafter Yeah, I remember that I just finished watching. I'm surprised out of all his girlfriends the one he didn't cheat on was also his brother's girlfriend.
@@sagefield4960 As much as I love hunter he wasn't a good guy. He was transphobic, islamophobic and sexist... And was ready to shoot up the school soooo...
You say “but still ended up with Clare in the end” as if that’s what made him great. I agree he was a good character, but it has nothing to do with him ending up with a girlfriend lol.
once they put paige as best and holly j as worst i knew this was gonna be a dumb list lol. holly j started as a mean girl and matured into a strong kind person. Paige was always mean period with moments of kindness. so honestly, not fair that one is considered best and one is considered worst.
Paige became nice actually. She did the mean girl turned nice girl development arc first, so it makes sense she is ranked ahead of Holly J. Paige also had several iconic moments on the show, some of the most beloved moments whereas Holly J didn’t really have the same iconic moments. And Holly J was also a lot meaner than Paige ever was, not even Paige treated her friends the way Holly J treated Anya. Paige was a mean girl but she was a hard core friend. Holly J did have solid character development, but yeah Paige was a better character
So Holly J and Spinner both started off as bullies and had major development. You put Spinner as one of the best (which I agree with) even though he had a hand in a student getting shot. Yet you put Holly J as one of the worst who actually helped to SAVE Spinner after he got shot. Then you put Craig as one of the best. Lmao.
Adam will always be one of my favorites characters of Degrassi. He was one of the nicest personalities on the show in my opinion, who also went trough a lot, just for wanting to be who he really was
A good character doesn't mean they're a good person, and vice versa. A good character is someone you can't stop watching, for whatever reason, and are invested in. Whether it's a good guy you want good things for or a bad guy you want to fail. A bad character is someone boring, forgettable, poorly written. This list fails to understand the very concept of a character.
One of the major traits of the show is the spectacular character development and yet somehow, this list managed to put most of those who changed for the better such as holly j and Fiona and in the worse list... wow
Fiona did NOT deserve to be on the worst list at ALL. She had so much character growth and she only had like one season where she had overall bad actions.
im sorry CRAIG MANNING was a best???? after he cheated, lead on and manipulated multiple girls?? and my queens Holly J Sinclair and Fiona Coyne were WORST??? couldnt be me
Holly J had some of the most intense character development, what are y'all on? I will not stand for this Fiona slander. Craig a best character? Are we sure about that... Also, Peter should have been in prison for what he did to Manny.
Worst: Rick but also he had issues so aside from him, frickin Dean who wasn't even remorseful for what he did to Paige Best: JT 100% but I also really like Jimmy
If I was on Degrassi, I would’ve connected and been friends with JT, Tobi, Liberty and Manny. Those 4 seemed like the most genuine friends anyone can have.
Let me fix this for y’all Worst Craig - her everybody in his family whenever he wanted because he was bipolar he was literally problematic Emma-Jealous if her bestie literally dated all her ex’s but one even spinner had some history with manny Spinner - got his best friend shot cheated on his gf on his other best friends with his best friends side piece Peter can stay Mister killer can stay too Best Manny - a good friend supportive and kind hearted Fiona- was a good friend sweet had her troubles but was good over all Jt- good friend funny and sweet Jimmy can stay Ellie- supportive friend sweet helpful kind hearted
Wow! Literally Holly J and Fiona are my favorite characters. The moment they enter the show and the moment they leave, they are completely different characters in a good, transformational way! Don’t come for the degrassi queens!!
Why don't we just talk about each character their growth as individuals instead of labeling them best and worst. Because best and worst is subjective. Character development is based on plain evidence.
redeeming yourself isn’t the only quality that a good character has. plus, i mean, the fact that craig lived with bipolar disorder, recovered from an addiction and still managed to lead a successful life….. yeah craig did have certain development.
HOLLY J IS SO ICONIC HOW DARE YOU! I rewatched all of NG recently and spent the whole time thinking when the heck does Holly J finally get here. Her name was memorable even if I forgot all the characters.
The Holly J slander is a joke right? She grew from antagonist to ultimate queen. Had one of the healthiest relationships with Declan and ended that relationship because she wanted to stand on her own without his help. She did bad things, but paled in comparison to other characters.
my opinion: paige ✅ (our original queen bee) holly j ✅ (THE SLANDER! absolutely no mention of any of her good points) manny ✅✅ (always my fave i love her so much) peter ❌ (why can they touch on peter's good points and not even meniton holly j's?) spinner ✅ (spinner is a hard one. i love him but sometimes.... eesh. i'm glad he developed so much) rick ❌ (will always be on the worst character lists.. there is NO ARGUMENT) craig ❌ (although i loved him in the earlier seasons & jake epstein is so talented) fiona ✅ (i love her!!! why is she on the worst characters list??? becuase she's rich? she did some bad things but a lot of the characters have done WAY WORSE. but don't kiss your brother 🤢 why was that a storyline?) jimmy ✅ (jimmy was always so nice & honeslty one of my fave characters for ages) owen ❌ (get that homophobia out of my face! the fact that he was tristan's brother is even more troubling. i did like him helping anya getting into the army tho)
This is a terrible list! While I agree with Peter and Owen being the worst, but c’mon... either Derek, Ashley or Bruce the Moose should be there instead of Fiona and Holly J (and probably Rick because his pick was too obvious) -Derek had no character development other than being a total a**wipe. -Ashley being so ungrateful and selfish in whatever relationship she was in. -Bruce the Moose, similar case to Derek, he had no character development and he was just there to be a bully with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. *Also Craig became terrible after Season 2, how’s he the best!?
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WHAT. Holly J is being done dirty here! She has the best redemption story and becomes one of the best characters in the entire show! She’s easily one of my favorite characters from the entire span of the series! Why isn’t her final seasons being taken into account like other characters?? Sorry not sorry that’s BOVINE FECAL MATTER!
How strongly can I DISagree? Holly J's so-called "redemption" was so poorly written & acted, she went from Queen Bee to Saint Holly J on a dime. There was nothing organic about her change...it was just BOOM. And even when she was supposedly improved, she was still b*tchy. I was so glad to see her listed as worst on here.
@@WrenFaithBridger No Holly J had one of the best storylines in her later seasons and when she started being school president she got on track
@@WrenFaithBridger Holly J didn't become good "on a dime". Her family lost their money which knocked her down a peg, and she became more chill after having a gun pointed at her in season 8. She never became a "saint" but she did learn how to actually hold friendships and support other people
@@WrenFaithBridger she didn’t immediately become a saint, and yes she still had flaws like every other character, it took nearly all of season 8 for her to change, which in Degrassi time, is a long while. But I really think there are worse characters on the show BY FAR who never changed at all.
She's a bully
Doesn't deserve redemption
Interesting how you were able to identify the terrible things a character like Spinner did, while also being able to acknowledge his development, but you couldn't manage to do the same with Fiona and Holly J. All of their growth was glossed over.
I feel there's a double standard on the genders here.
@@rachelmills5774 nah not really cause then I don’t think Paige or Manny would have been chosen.
No really because if it wasn’t about development Craig should of definitely been on the worst list
Honestly I don’t think Craig should be on the best list as his character just got worse and worse over time
@@BadRomCom craig shouldn’t be on the worst list
The Holly J slander....the way she had the most character development in this show...
right she didn’t deserve that
I agree
HJ is the goat
Ikr how DARE they list her as one of the worst characters
no there's definitely other characters who had more
Did they actually put Craig as one of the best characters? i can't lmao. are you forgetting him cheating on Ashley with Manny, beating up Joey lol, his problems with drugs (he ended up blaming it on Manny and manipulating Ellie) and again cheating in LA with Ellie. but you consider him best character for being a musician omg
THANK U!!
i agree and i actually really liked craig
@@virireyes4870 same I like Craig but he shouldn’t be on a best character list, especially when they put Fiona in worst?? 😒
AGREED
TOTALLY AGREE! I was looking in the comments to see if it was just me who was confused by this list lmao
You have Holly J at worst but Craig as best. I would easily swap those
Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this
Definitely! Craig was so manipulative throughout the series, Holly J actually matured.
I think this person just likes the OG cast. All the "best" are from the first 6 seasons
Craig is the best
@@shyniceflagg1685 I’m kinda stuck, he had really good storylines like with his father and when he was diagnosed with bipolar, but aside from that, he always cheated, lied and manipulated people, and never exactly grew from it. Even in Degrassi Goes Hollywood, he cheated on his girlfriend with Ellie.
Fiona Coyne deserves better she has one of the best developments on the show
RIGHT
Fiona should’ve been at best & Craig at worst
@@mannygracioppo7868 Exactly!!!
she and Holly J omg
So did holly j
Hun... Holly J and Paige are so similar but Holly J towards the end of her run was the sweetest whereas Paige slapped her best friend Marco... (tho they were both nice when they came back for DNC...) take their endgame performances into account!!!
Tbh holly j didn’t have many redeeming qualities.. she was such a bully and it doesn’t really cancel out whatever good she did
@@tate3687 I respectfully disagree
i was so disappointed with paige’s ending, marco didn’t deserve that AT ALL
Derek is the worst character ever in every way.
Agreed. If there's ever a Part 2, he should be right at the top...er, I mean bottom. I'd also add Mo as a "best". Even though he was kind of a minor character, I just loved him.
Omg yes! When he literally jumped Jane just because she was a female playing football 🤢 it doesn’t get talked about enough!
Dave is also one of the worst characters!
@Robo sure he was, just for a short time. He was in the intro
How exactly?
Holly J and Fiona DO NOT belong on the same list as Owen, Peter, and Rick. What an insult!
Noooo, Holly J was amazing! She actually had such a good character redemption. She was awful at first but she grew so much and was awesome at the end.
Yes
Thing about videos like this they take into account everything the character has done in the series. Holly had good character development yeah but it still doesn’t change the fact she was a bully with no remorse at first.
Holly J and Fiona deserved so much better. Craig is the loml and even I can admit that he manipulated Ellie and Manny and led them on for years. As well as cheating on Ashley and not giving her credit for using on of her songs. Holly J and Fiona had 2 of the best character developments on the show which were completely disregarded. They were amazing, supportive, driven, people by the end of the show. Can we say that for Paige?
Yessss like Paige never had a consequence for her behavior and bad attitudes and comments
Holly j? F outta here
Didn't Craig cheat on all of his girlfriends? Even Drew was not that bad.
😂😂😂 if only the boiler room could talk
I'd say they're neck and neck. The only girlfriend Drew DIDN'T cheat on was Becky.
@@syria0110 he cheated on Ali in the boiler room. He got a BJ or HJ.
@@DollFairyCrafter Yeah, I remember that I just finished watching. I'm surprised out of all his girlfriends the one he didn't cheat on was also his brother's girlfriend.
he only cheated on ashley. and craig is one of the best characters.
Thank you for putting Owen in the worst tho. Respect.
Honestly who makes these videos... Did we forget Luke Baker? Or Johnny? Hunter even?
hunter wasnt a bad kid he just had mental health issues witch he overcame , luke and johnny make sense tho
@@sagefield4960 As much as I love hunter he wasn't a good guy. He was transphobic, islamophobic and sexist... And was ready to shoot up the school soooo...
Right? Derek and Bruce were right there too
Luke, Johnny, and Hunter were after TNG tagline was dropped I think so they technically wouldn't count.
hunter was in next class not next generation
what is this holly j and fiona slander?!
I’m offended that Marco wasn’t on the Best list.
neither was jt or sav
After Marco came out and started dating Dylan, he became boring and annoying. Marco is iconic, but he was basically a one-note character.
“Kicked Paiges butt” literally😂😂
No way your talking about manny
this show had too many characters to pick 😭✋
I agree
especially when they started shoehorning them in towards the end
Sometimes I wonder weather the people writing this have actually watched the show 😂
*whether
TBH I agree w Peter bc he never got consequences after his actions... even if he ended his run as a good one
Exactly
so they’re gonna put holly j and fiona (who both had amazing character development) on the worst list, but not luke???
No Eli. He was the best. The fact that went through so much, but still ended up with Clare in the end.
You say “but still ended up with Clare in the end” as if that’s what made him great. I agree he was a good character, but it has nothing to do with him ending up with a girlfriend lol.
He was literally not the best. Eli sucked and his toxic relationship with Clare was a story line worth skipping.
@@MJ-gm7km especially Claire
once they put paige as best and holly j as worst i knew this was gonna be a dumb list lol. holly j started as a mean girl and matured into a strong kind person. Paige was always mean period with moments of kindness. so honestly, not fair that one is considered best and one is considered worst.
Paige is iconic though
Paige became nice actually. She did the mean girl turned nice girl development arc first, so it makes sense she is ranked ahead of Holly J. Paige also had several iconic moments on the show, some of the most beloved moments whereas Holly J didn’t really have the same iconic moments. And Holly J was also a lot meaner than Paige ever was, not even Paige treated her friends the way Holly J treated Anya. Paige was a mean girl but she was a hard core friend. Holly J did have solid character development, but yeah Paige was a better character
Holly j is literally a queen she had so much character development what
No
@@lostforever773 Yes.
@@jonathanmiller9235 no
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Peter should be there.
So Holly J and Spinner both started off as bullies and had major development. You put Spinner as one of the best (which I agree with) even though he had a hand in a student getting shot. Yet you put Holly J as one of the worst who actually helped to SAVE Spinner after he got shot. Then you put Craig as one of the best. Lmao.
Honestly, if I were Rick I would never show my face at that school again.
Adam will always be one of my favorites characters of Degrassi. He was one of the nicest personalities on the show in my opinion, who also went trough a lot, just for wanting to be who he really was
HOLLY J HAD A REDEMPTION SHE DESERVES BETTER
I wish I could agree with this list but I don’t. Nope.
Jimmy got shot in Season 4, not 5
and he wasnt forgiven after it happened. the workers of the show do a terrible job with these videos. like are they so old they dont remember anythin?
Paige, Jimmy, Manny, JT, Liberty, Hazel, Terri, Craig and Marco are hands-down my favorite Degrassi characters
@@cruising_with_melissa The writers were racist and didnt give her any good storylines 🤦
yess, hazel and terri deserved better storylines, and jimmy and craig went through so much!
A good character doesn't mean they're a good person, and vice versa. A good character is someone you can't stop watching, for whatever reason, and are invested in. Whether it's a good guy you want good things for or a bad guy you want to fail. A bad character is someone boring, forgettable, poorly written.
This list fails to understand the very concept of a character.
J.T was one of the best characters and Fiona and Holly J were too and Derek should have been on the worst and Clare was one of the best as well
One of the major traits of the show is the spectacular character development and yet somehow, this list managed to put most of those who changed for the better such as holly j and Fiona and in the worse list... wow
I’m sorry, but I don’t agree with this lol
ya not at all
Fiona did NOT deserve to be on the worst list at ALL. She had so much character growth and she only had like one season where she had overall bad actions.
Why is Fiona on the list 😭 imo she really grew into her character especially after the Bobby situation and finding her true identity with imogen
im sorry CRAIG MANNING was a best???? after he cheated, lead on and manipulated multiple girls?? and my queens Holly J Sinclair and Fiona Coyne were WORST??? couldnt be me
Right
Holly J had some of the most intense character development, what are y'all on?
I will not stand for this Fiona slander.
Craig a best character? Are we sure about that...
Also, Peter should have been in prison for what he did to Manny.
yeah craig is easily one of the best characters. not even a question
Putting Craig as one of the best characters but Holly J and Fiona as the worst? What the absolute trash?
jimmy got shot season 4. not 5. just letting you kno
Manny was always my favorite. I loved her from the beginning.
Knew this was a bad list when Holly J- who had pretty great character development- was on the worst list.
She didn’t kick Paige’s butt she cowardly kicked her from behind
Worst character: Peter Stone
There, your whole list is made.
I would replace Holly J. and Fiona on the "Worst" list with Derek and The Shep.
You guys are high. Craig is awful, and Fiona is an angel. Do a list of characters who started as trash but became great over time.
FIONA???!! No.
This list is absolutely terrible. Who makes these?
HJ worst? You guys need therapy
Worst: Rick but also he had issues so aside from him, frickin Dean who wasn't even remorseful for what he did to Paige
Best: JT 100% but I also really like Jimmy
No cap when Craig was first introduced and was taking pictures I thought he was a stalker or peeping Tom🌚😭😂
If I was on Degrassi, I would’ve connected and been friends with JT, Tobi, Liberty and Manny. Those 4 seemed like the most genuine friends anyone can have.
Don't forget Jimmy
Let me fix this for y’all
Worst
Craig - her everybody in his family whenever he wanted because he was bipolar he was literally problematic
Emma-Jealous if her bestie literally dated all her ex’s but one even spinner had some history with manny
Spinner - got his best friend shot cheated on his gf on his other best friends with his best friends side piece
Peter can stay
Mister killer can stay too
Best
Manny - a good friend supportive and kind hearted
Fiona- was a good friend sweet had her troubles but was good over all
Jt- good friend funny and sweet
Jimmy can stay
Ellie- supportive friend sweet helpful kind hearted
They had Manny on the best
craig is still a good character. you can put ellie in the worst character list
11:44 “Best Craig Manning”
Everyone: 🦗 🦗🦗
How is Marisol not on the worst? She was terrible to everyone!
09? She graduated in the 2011 cast
Yeah they retconned that class but this video forgot lol
Holly J is the best character... I know you didn't just put her as worst.
Rick was waaaay too cute to had been acting like that 😩💕
Also imma shush about Fiona 🙃
I sure miss some of the episodes on UA-cam I hope they can come back
Wow! Literally Holly J and Fiona are my favorite characters. The moment they enter the show and the moment they leave, they are completely different characters in a good, transformational way! Don’t come for the degrassi queens!!
Holly J is the Best Characthers but Manny Santos is the Worst
"Even getting shot in season 5" wow you guys really don't fact check these scripts. Everyone remember Time Stand Still and that's season 4..smh
I swear the people that make these don’t watch the show lmao
14:22 it’s holly freaking J
Eli and Ellie snubbed, harsh.
Why don't we just talk about each character their growth as individuals instead of labeling them best and worst.
Because best and worst is subjective.
Character development is based on plain evidence.
NOT THE FIONA SLANDER???!!!!
Holly J is the best, I LOVED her character development.
and Fiona was a great character too.
literally who came up with this list because we can all agree it's bad
Where's Derek?
There are way better characters then Craig
absolutely not. craig was one of the most complex and interesting characters of the earlier seasons
Darcy belongs on the worst list, easy
Holly J redeemed herself as Craig did not. Definitely should be switched!
redeeming yourself isn’t the only quality that a good character has. plus, i mean, the fact that craig lived with bipolar disorder, recovered from an addiction and still managed to lead a successful life….. yeah craig did have certain development.
leave fiona alone lol
My favorites: Emma, Manny, J.T., Liberty, Holly J, Fiona, Sav, Danny, Peter, Imogen, Clare, Alli, Jenna, Spinner, Marco, Jimmy, Toby, Zig, Maya, Grace, Zoe, Eli, Miles, Dallas, Drew, Connor
um holly j and fiona had one of the best character developments in the show??
HOLLY J IS SO ICONIC HOW DARE YOU! I rewatched all of NG recently and spent the whole time thinking when the heck does Holly J finally get here. Her name was memorable even if I forgot all the characters.
How you not gonna have Sean or JT on this list cmon
derek haig and luke baker easily could’ve replaced holly j and fiona
How did they put Fiona as one of the worst?! This makes no sense
The Holly J slander is a joke right? She grew from antagonist to ultimate queen. Had one of the healthiest relationships with Declan and ended that relationship because she wanted to stand on her own without his help. She did bad things, but paled in comparison to other characters.
not the holly J slander she had so much development and was like one of the most iconic characters
Personally, I don't think Craig deserves to be on the Best list. He's a huge womanizer.
I’m team jimmy aka Drake
WE WANT ANOTHER SEASON!
Holly J and Fiona deserve better. And why do we always forget Anya?? And Craig should be on worst!
Luke was the worse to be honest
*worst
my opinion:
paige ✅ (our original queen bee)
holly j ✅ (THE SLANDER! absolutely no mention of any of her good points)
manny ✅✅ (always my fave i love her so much)
peter ❌ (why can they touch on peter's good points and not even meniton holly j's?)
spinner ✅ (spinner is a hard one. i love him but sometimes.... eesh. i'm glad he developed so much)
rick ❌ (will always be on the worst character lists.. there is NO ARGUMENT)
craig ❌ (although i loved him in the earlier seasons & jake epstein is so talented)
fiona ✅ (i love her!!! why is she on the worst characters list??? becuase she's rich? she did some bad things but a lot of the characters have done WAY WORSE. but don't kiss your brother 🤢 why was that a storyline?)
jimmy ✅ (jimmy was always so nice & honeslty one of my fave characters for ages)
owen ❌ (get that homophobia out of my face! the fact that he was tristan's brother is even more troubling. i did like him helping anya getting into the army tho)
Owens okay
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i actually love holly j cause of her change and development
I know Rick is a bad character but the bullying of him is hard to watch.
This is a terrible list! While I agree with Peter and Owen being the worst, but c’mon... either Derek, Ashley or Bruce the Moose should be there instead of Fiona and Holly J (and probably Rick because his pick was too obvious)
-Derek had no character development other than being a total a**wipe.
-Ashley being so ungrateful and selfish in whatever relationship she was in.
-Bruce the Moose, similar case to Derek, he had no character development and he was just there to be a bully with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
*Also Craig became terrible after Season 2, how’s he the best!?
Holly J and Fiona were the best characters after all of the originals left. i LOVED their development
Holly J had a great arch. Craig did not
Yeah Holly J was bad at first but she got so much better
I miss degrassi 😢
It's like this channel and their top.10's puts episodes on a shuffle play Spotify playlist and chooses random bits and pieces to watch 😂