Review (MISTAKES, READ BELOW) - QUICK SOUND DEMO - JOYO R-15 PreAmp House pedal
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- UPDATE: Apparently there is an issue in how this is switched between presets, which initially I thought was due to compression and EQ'ing for UA-cam, but I have learned that there is a specific method of switching between presets, otherwise it loads preset memory for one specific model. The updated video I did, I took my time with, and actually "accidentally" got all the proper sounds from it, so the new upload will further, and properly represent this amazing pedal!"
***Time Stamps*** Posted in comments below
**Important Info**
I forgot to mention, the Clean vs. Dirty channel volumes differ, BUT you can change that. This is just "out of the box" quick demo. In my next review I will deep dive this item. You can adjust AND SAVE individual settings and volumes per channel. It's amazing!
This is a quick and dirty review of the JOYO R-15 PreAmp House pedal.
There won't be fancy super shred solos in this particular review, but simply just demonstrating the sounds of each amp model, both clean and dirty with a few chords and maybe a Pentatonic run or 2.
I will do another review of this and the JOYO Cab Box, which will be more "in depth" than this is.
I created this quick video (yes, 30 minutes quick..) because I was tired of looking all over the internet to try and find a decent sound sample of this pedal. I didn't want to drop the cash for the Iridium, and I figured this would be a great alternative, but I couldn't find a single video with a decent sound ANYWHERE.
I hope this video helps someone searching like me out if they are interested in hearing this thing "in the real world". It's just the guitar and a Reverb effect.
If anyone has requests for more demos, I will gladly do more. I plan on uploading many pedals demos, as well as guitar and amp demonstrations. Any questions please comment below, I will be glad to answer them!
Time Stamps as follows:
Amp Patch 1 - CLEAN - 6:50 -- DIRTY 8:27
Amp Patch 2 - CLEAN - 9:30 -- DIRTY 10:46
Amp Patch 3 - CLEAN - 12:51 -- DIRTY 13:55
Amp Patch 4 - CLEAN - 15:20 -- DIRTY 16:13
Amp Patch 5 - CLEAN - 17:29 -- DIRTY 18:15
Amp Patch 6 - CLEAN - 19:34 -- DIRTY 20:38
Amp Patch 7 - CLEAN - 22:10 -- DIRTY 23:11
Amp Patch 8 - CLEAN - 24:35 -- DIRTY 25:28
Amp Patch 9 - CLEAN - 26:58 -- DIRTY 27:49
Clean channel with a couple different Over Drives: 32:50
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Time Stamps as follows:
Amp Patch 1 - CLEAN - 6:50 -- DIRTY 8:27
Amp Patch 2 - CLEAN - 9:30 -- DIRTY 10:46
Amp Patch 3 - CLEAN - 12:51 -- DIRTY 13:55
Amp Patch 4 - CLEAN - 15:20 -- DIRTY 16:13
Amp Patch 5 - CLEAN - 17:29 -- DIRTY 18:15
Amp Patch 6 - CLEAN - 19:34 -- DIRTY 20:38
Amp Patch 7 - CLEAN - 22:10 -- DIRTY 23:11
Amp Patch 8 - CLEAN - 24:35 -- DIRTY 25:28
Amp Patch 9 - CLEAN - 26:58 -- DIRTY 27:49
Clean channel with a couple different Over Drives: 32:50
OMFG DRONE!!! you are back?! oh YES! i love you bro and hope you will get back to streaming too asap bro! P.S this is Cyber from discord if you remember me
I remember buddy :-)
My results after purchase were less than favorable. I sent it back. If I need to use a cab sim box too then it's too expensive for what it is. And I own 2 real Twin reverbs, this is nowhere close. Sorry.
Everyone has their own preference, but if this was purchased as a twin reverb fill in, then the reason for this unit was missed. This is for the High Gain seekers, and those looking for a more "heavy / hardcore" sound. And yes, having a cab sim box of some sort, even a free one on your computer makes a WORLD of difference, as there is a single CAB sim built in... Variety is the spice of life when it comes to matching cabs / cab sims to pedals / amps / amp sims.
Hello! Greetings from Argentina, nice vid and nice playing :). Could you explain how is the correct way to switch between presets? what is the special tweking you have to do when switching amp models for the unit to change to that instead of the saved one? I did not find your new upload video
My apologies for the late reply! From the person who designed this pedal with JOYO, you must first change from channel A to channel B... Once that is changed, then swap the AMP type you want to use. Once you have changed to that new AMP type,. switch back to channel A, then it will load the AMP type you selected and the factory default presets.
You must do this each tim eyou want to change the AMP type, or else it will stay on whatever distortion type you chose to play with initially.
@@DroneShotFPV thanks! Really good info
@@MG-jk8ez Anytime!
Just got the preamp house pedal today and have the cab box. I love that combo. I also have the king of kings to use as a boost for the dirty channel and a bit of gain on a clean channel. Are you using the effects loop of the preamp house. I actually found it nice to run the time based effects from the output of the preamp house and then into the cab box. Still playing at the moment but love the sounds I'm getting from both those units. Where do you get your IRs from, I'm interested in checking some others out for the cab box. Thanks :)
I do indeed use the FX loop for time based effects, it rounds everything out very "amp like" and sounds great! I have ALWAYS been one to put delay, chorus, delay, etc in the loop of anything I am playing because for whatever reason I can NEVER get them to sound like I want straight in... I am probably doing something wrong, but the FX loop is great for me. I typically get my IR's from Glenn DeLuanne (I think I spelled that right lol) Choptones, CAB IR (Extremely top tier IR's, and of VINTAGE super awesome sounding gear too! IT gives you Neutral, Pushed, Room, etc type IR's to choose from in each cab, as well as an IR of each speaker per cab, or all mixed, plus ambient and room variants of each individual speaker plus mixed, etc. Super high quality stuff!) and ML Sound Labs. I have a slew of free IR's that sound AMAZING if you are interested in trying them out. I could zip them up and shove them to a Google drive for you to download if interested. I am glad you are liking that combo, once I saw that Preamp house come out, and I already had the CAB BOX, I was like "YES! This will work beautifully for an ampless rig!!!!" lol
@@DroneShotFPV Yep, I love this rig now. I have the Joyo Rechargable Power supply coming so I can also just grab my pedalboard and sit wherever I want to practice :) I'd love to check out some of those IRs, thank you :)
@@CarlHackman Let me get them packaged up in a zip for you when I get home from work, then I will shoot you a link! if you want to email me directly so I can only give these to you, you can get me @ droneshotfpv@gmail.com
Great demo mate, you're a tasty player. I'll be honest though, I feel like the Iridium is a different pedal to this one (similar, but different). The only problem I've found with my JPH is the channel footswitch. It doesn't engage until your foot comes up again, and it took a few weeks to get used to. Other than that, I'm loving it. Nice work bloke! 🤘🖤
Definitely different than the Iridium, but more geared towards those who couldn't afford an Iridium, but still want something "similar". I have been working on a new video, that I have had to re-shoot twice now due to some issues with my mixer (turns out my boy loves to twist and turn knobs, and I am too lazy to check before doing suff! lol), but stock settings sound pretty similar, but tweaking this unit really makes it shine, ESPECIALLY the AC30 variant with Single coils, sounds choice! Glad you love yours man! I am uploading a FULL in depth / knob twisting review, along with some diving in to the CAB BOX to demonstrate some attainable sounds. As well as some mega awesome IR's that truly make this JPH shine!
@@DroneShotFPV some of the videos I've seen would suggest that the Iridium isn't so great for metal guys, even with a boost. The JPH is absolutely killer for it, and since I range from "acid trip" ambience, all the way to chug city, I really need the high gain. I would seriously suggest an eq or overdrive going into the input (even for mid-gain). It really brings the pedal to life, and tidies up that little bit of buzz. Happy tweaking brother!
@@RubyD80 I have found thee same thing as well from all the videos I watched (was initially going to get the Iridium previously). The Strymon seems more for Rock / LIghter Rock. I actually use the MXR 10 Band EQ pedal on my board, directly into the JPH, but for Demo purposes I didn't engage it. Also, depending on what I am doing, I don't always use it either. The JOYO CAB BOX however, even when you load the Impulse Responses into it, has an EQ section which I always tweak, then "set and forget" it. It's a VERY flexible and powerful tool. You can emulate Power Amp sections, choose what tube types, set Input AND output gain settings, as well as presence which acts like a real presence knob on an amp. The of course the EQ section, you can choose between a Guitar Graphic EQ, a Bass Graphic EQ, or a Parametric EQ! If you use the built in CAB models, you can do like all the others, and adjut the MIC position,l and MIC type. For the price, the JOYO CAB BOX is an amazing piece of gear! Thanks again for watching bro, it means a lot, I love your videos as well! Maybe we could collab a tune during this Quarantine stuff, and just jam out!
@@DroneShotFPV we've had this conversation before lol, I think I'd still prefer the simplicity of the Nu-X Solid Studio. The Mini Studio is sounding fantastic for my little travel rig, I'm using a Mooer Micro Preamp 016 Phoenix with a 6 band and it's frigging crazy! I just ordered the few things I needed to make better quality videos, my video of the JPH was one of the "poorly recorded" ones you mentioned haha.
@@RubyD80 Yes indeed we have! lol I love gear, and am interested in getting and trying what you have mentioned, and BTW, your video sounded great, not poor! I have another piece of gear inbound as well, and that is the DSM Humboldt Simplifier.. I can't wait to see what it can do compared to the JPH!
Nice review! Im planning to buy all if these. You have any left of thouse glorious Ir? Choptones etc
Im into metal Zakk wylde and Also John Mayall bluesbreakers type of tones
Johna mayer and SRV also!!
More of this please
I do have IR's still, plus some AMAZING Metal IR's that will help you Achieve a Zakk Wylde style sound. Of course there are other factors, but speakers (or IR's) are a major influence in the sound we get, and these new IR's I have are even better than when I recorded this video! I plan on a re-upload in about a week with a new IR set, and a new perspective on these units, with some more info! Shoot me a message on UA-cam and I will hook you up with some IR's I recorded and some others. If you can't msg me on UA-cam, I will shoot you my email.
I just purchased this unit, some of the amp models are very impressive. I like the 900 and ENGL the most. One thing that should be pointed out about this pedal that it will ONLY save ONE clean and ONE dirty preset form ONE particular amp model. It will NOT allow you to save a preset from each amp model. So if you save a 900 preset on B, then go to ENGL and save a preset on B, the 900 preset is overwritten by the ENGL one. One preset for each A and B buttons, no saved presets for every amp model.
100% correct. Initially, myself (and many others) thought it would save "per amp" , but unfortunately it does not. I also had to edit my description, because it was discovered a pattern that was required when swapping amps, otherwise a saved setting that is made, will pass along to ALL models, and never actually change that model (i.e. saving an EVH tone to your liking, and not following the pattern, when swapping to the ENGL, lets say, it will still be the EVH with saved settings.) Kind of like a "clear" function. And of course, once settings are saved, if you swap to another, save those settings, your old save is gone for the previous model. While that IS a drawback, in my personal opinion, I am not going to probably swap amp models unless doing a demo anyway. Most of the time we find one we like and stick with it, which I think was their mentality. Thanks for the reply, and I am glad you enjoy your Preamp House, it's a great unit for an excellent price!
Did you pair it with a CAB SIM?
@@DroneShotFPV Yeah, its a strange saving function on that Joyo, and they dont point that out anywhere. No, I dont use any cab sims or the cab sim on the unit, I run mine into the effects loop of either a Marshall DSL 20w or Marshall JVM 100w, out into a real 2x12 cabinet. I personally think it sounds best that way. I mostly use the UK 900 and the EG E645. That EG E645 into a tube power section sounds great from low to high gain.
@@danc3746 I definitely agree with the FX loop into a real cab sounding best, as that is going to be the best overall "real" feel sound for sure. I actually have 2 of them now, one that I loop into my Modded Plexi with FX Loop (Randy Rhoads Cascaded MOD, PPIMV MOD, FX loop ), but then have an "ampless" board that I use for venues / places I can't take big bertha (that's what I call the Plexi clone, it's 150w lol). I have since picked up more IR's that sound great with it, including the Hesu Demon CAB IR, and Orange CAB IR, and V30's, etc. While it's not the real deal, it's pretty good on stage with a venue that requires FOH for sure! For me, I LOVE the 900 model on there, but I would say my 2 top favorites, if I had to name them, would be the Friendman BE100, the ENGL, then a 3rd would be the 900 for sure.
@@DroneShotFPV I agree those are the top 3 amp sims on that unit, ENGL, 900 and BE100!
Can it plug into a physical guitar cabinet ?
This unit does not have a built in sound "amplifier", so plugging this directly into a cab will not work. You can however use things like a power amp pedal that can drive a cab and run this pedal through one of those into the cab, that would work just fine and I have done exactly this before.
can use that as a cab with other pedal?
Just to clarify, are y ou asking if you can use another pedal, like a Drive pedal for example, with this JOYO Pre-Amp House? The answer is indeed yes.
The JOYO R-15 PreAmp House is designed to work with pedals. It also has an FX loop to use like a real amp's FX loop!
What pedal were you looking to run with it? I can do another demonstration using pedals in the mix, and shoot a better quality video and cover those aspects if interested.
Hi - great video. I’m thinking of getting one of these to plug into the Flat channel of my THR10. Do you think this would be a good use of this pedal?
I think it would work, but what is your end goal? I ask because this pedal plugged direct into a mixer, or to FOH, or even just with headphones is great. I use it as an "ampless" rig for smaller venues, Church, and for the School where I work. If you need something to drive speakers, you could use the method you mentioned, or a variety of other small micro amps. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
@@DroneShotFPV thanks for getting back to me
I’m an enthusiastic but clueless guitarist with a THR10 which I love - it sounds fantastic even through headphones (which I use 90% of the time as I’ve got kids etc)
However I’ve got a bunch of ambient delay/reverb/loopers/chorus-y pedals which I’d love to be able to pair with the “wall-of-sound” distortions of the amp itself but they don’t sound great as they have to go in front of the distortion channels of the THR10 (which doesn’t have an effects loop).
So far, external drives and distortions have sounded terrible going into the “clean” setting of the amp
My plan is to get the R-15 , as it seems like it can reproduce some great amp-like distortions of the type that im looking for , and run it through my other pedals into the “flat” channel of the THR10 ( “Flat response clean input for line sources, tone and effect controls allow shaping of non-guitar sources” as per the manual).
But you’re saying I could play this direct into headphones!? I’m pretty much sold!
@@dantasia721 You sure can play it direct into headphones! It's essentially an "amp" in itself. It has a built in Cab SIM also, so it doens't just sound janky and rough. This pedal has an Effects Loop, just like an amp does, so those FX you have will go right into the loop! That's how I use it actually, with my Chrorus, reverd, and delay pedals, is right into the FX loop of this pedal for my ampless rig.
In my years of experimentation I have found MANY pedals, such as verbs, choruses, etc, of certain type / brands do not sound good straight into the front of an amp... What's crazy is several of my guitarists I LOVE, use those same FX in front of their amps (according to what they say anyway), but I have never had great results, aside of 1 or 2 amps that it actually worked for. I need to revisit those tests to see what I can make work well in front of an amp (new video idea! lol)
But yes, this would replace your THR completely, and be it's own unit. If you get a chance, down the line, buy a CAB BOX as well (in my video, that is what I use instead of MIC'ing a cab) and I put the output of the R-15 Preamp house into the input of the CAB BOX, and then either use headphones, or the Direct out to my mixer / front of house instead of using speaker cabs as well. You can load impulse responses, and I can get a sound that when I tweak it and dial it in, sounds like I am playing through a vintage cab!
@@DroneShotFPV This is really , really helpful. Ordering this bad boy tonight. Much appreciated.
@@dantasia721 Anytime! I love to help out where I can, so anymore questions about ANYTHING, please do not hesitate!
sounds good but, no head room for all the presets
Not sure what you mean? If you mean Gain, there is plenty more to be had, but a lot of these were set to around 7 out of 10 , maybe 6 / 6.5, but still more to go. Also, volume wise, these were turned up to around a little over 1 quarter of the way turned up, both the CAB BOX and the PREAMP House Master volumes, but the individual amp models volume setting was around halfway, or just over. Unless you were meaning something else? I would be glad to answer any questions!
Hey. I never biught a preamp before. Can I just use this as distortion/od pedal? Is there anything technical I need to know. I don't have much experience with pedals aside from Boss BD-2. Thanks!
Dave, yes, you can use this in front of an amp technically as a distortion pedal. I guess the first question is, what amp will you be using? If I were going to use this with an amp, I would do it one of two ways, I would use the signal out coming from the Preamp House, into the FX loop return, which would work PERFECTLY. The other option, would be to use it on the clean channel, and have this do all your distortion / OD. I reshot a new video of this pedal 3 or 4 times (had some DI interface issues / MIXER audio issues, then realized my son was messing with the mixer sliders and Gain Pre's and whatever else was "fun" on it while goofing around lol) And in the "full deep dive" I actually demonstrate this in front of an AMP as well as in the FX loop as mentioned above. I should have the final edit finished by tomorrow I hope, and uploaded by end of day.
What is your end goal with using it? Just to experiment with different sounds / styles?
If you have ANY questions, let me know, and I will answer them!
@@DroneShotFPV I just want to have an OD/Distortion pedal that can mimic famous amps' dirty channels and this seems good and cheaper than most other preamp pedals. What do you think?
@@davelisapaly6750 I think you would be able to accomplish this task with this and an amp. Are you going to be running a solid state amp or a tube amp? What amp was it again you are running? You would just need to run it like I was suggesting. Yes, you would be able to run it in front of a dirty amp, but I never tried it with dirt, I think it might not sound "great" that way. Let me try that this morning here shortly, and I will let you know if dirty will work vs. clean!
@@DroneShotFPV I have Roland JC-25 at home but currently I'm living at my university's dorm and I borrowed a small Harley Benton amp from my church that has clean and dirty channel. Thanks
@@DroneShotFPV JC-20*
Hi sir just wanna ask if its possible to use different amps between the A and B switches? For example i want my clean sounds to be a fender amp and my dirty tones will be the lonestar. Is that possible?
Sorry I just saw this, but yes, you can. You can choose one clean channel, and that can be ANY channel, save it, and then another totally different dirty channel. I found out from the designer of this pedal (Not JOYO, they built it and made it WITH the designer) that when you save a preset for a channel (A or B) that is what loads each time. So, to repeat, if you choose Fender 65 Twin clean channel, set it up like you want, and then save it, but then choose Friedman BE100 for the dirty channel, set it up and save it, then your clean will be recalled as the Fender, and the dirty will be the Friedman until you modify settings and save again. That is why my demo had some similar sounds for the channels. There were a few that changed due to how I "switched" them. Any questions, please let me know!
Thanks. Please do other pedals and amps...... Pete.
Everything sounds like Eddie V Halen - you could get that sound from one high gain distortion pedal - yes?
They are all different sounds, and no "tweaking" was involved in this demo (that is the next video). This was a "quick" out of the box sound demo. I am currently editing a video of adjusting and tweaking each individual amp and channel. There is SOME similarity between the drive channels, but they are in fact different. The AC30 sounds very chimy, and the JCM900 is more Saturated than the LoneStar, and the Friedman is extremely "tight" even with the default presets. But this is a preamp pedal, which has many uses other than a pedal "in front of the amp" type thing, like I am using it here. I literally have NO amplifier connected here at all, and it's just the JOYO Preamp House, to the Cab box IR loader, and then out to the DI. If you have anything specific you would like to see / hear in the one I am editing, I will add it for you, since I am still in the edit stages.
just got mine today, im not impressed at all...might return this thing.@@DroneShotFPV
Does the preamp house have a cab sim too right? which is better sounding, cab sim off on preamp house and use the cab sim on cab box or combine both?
Hey man, can any of the clean channels do "edge of breakup tones" with gain all the way up perhaps?
Not that I have personally dialed in, as it's pretty much geared for Hard Rock and Metal, but in all honesty I never tried, I just used the clean as clean, let me try it later this morning (currently 5 a.m. here) and report back to you and let you know if I can get it to do that. I don't know why I never thought to try it in the first place lol Give me about 2 hours or so
@@DroneShotFPV no worries man. Anyway, even if it doesn't, I'm still gonna use an OD on my board stacked with a distortion going into the clean or dirty channel of the preamp. I thought i would economize the space on my board by not having the OD if the clean channels can do breakup tones
@@chuckiemiguelbacolod8558 No worries, I wanted to check anyway. So the cleans are just that, cleans. Either a quiet clean, or a LOUD clean in my tests. This thing definitely has some volume output!
I like this. Would love to see another review after you get it dialed in. The only thing that bothers me is how much more volume the cleans have than the dirty. I was just curious if there is a way to level them out.
There is definitely a way to level them out. Straight "out of the box" the Dirty channels are a little quieter, but there is a Gain, Volume, as well as master volume that is available for each channel. I wanted to show how easy it was to use out of the box first for those that maybe didn't want to start tweaking. I am actually in the process of shooting the more in depth one, as well as the CAB BOX now. I will go through a complete tweak of the whole thing, as well as volume levels. Thanks for watching!
One other quick note. You can actually save your settings. I forgot to mention that. Each Amp model, the knobs are "ineffective" on the sounds until you move them. So if you dial in a sound you like on Amp selection 4, leave the knobs in the positions to like, and switch to amp 5, those settings are null and the PREVIOUS saved settings are loaded until you move one of the knobs, then it sets to that level. I hope that made sense. That includes volume and gain as well. The only Knob that will always have an effect on each amp setting is the Master volume level for the overall pedal volume.
How did you find the onboard cab sims on the R15?
There is only 1 that is programmed into the R15. Instead of using that, I used my R08 CAB BOX and turned off the R15 CAB SIM in order to get what I wanted.
@@DroneShotFPV Thank you for the info. Do you know if the onboard sim is an eq filter or an IR? Many times the cab sim on less expensive pedals use a filter that’s just an eq switch and they tend to kill the sound rather than sound like a speaker (imo). Thanks
@@MatGurman My understanding is that it is a real IR, but I cannot attest as to which one it is. Most likely a V30 IR of some sort. It sounds pretty decent honestly, but I am a guy that loves to tinker, so I always go the route of into something like the CAB BOX or something similar. Any further questions, please do not hesitate!
Why is the gain all the way up all the time? What the secret 😊?
For this system, when switching presets the gain , treble, mid, etc settings do not matter UNTIL you first move them. So , example, when you change from one amp model to the next, there are "default" settings which are currently being used. Once you change either the gain, treble, mid, bass, etc, those defaults are now no longer going to be in use, and whatever you change the dial to will be used. So even if EVERY settings was turned all the way to max, when you change models those settings are not valid until you start mak8ing changes. Doe that make sense? if not I can try to explain it differently. By default though, these are "High Gain" amp models, so they naturally will be used with gain, but what you are hearing actually has a LOT more gain to use on tap.
Hello! I have the nux mini studio and I'd like to use the cab IRs on it. The problem with the nux pedal is that it does not have a xlr out. I was planning on putting the nux mini studio in the fx loop of the joyo preamp house that way i could send it out to FOH via xlr out. Does that make sense or will it sound bad? Let me know what you think.
Thanks!
YOu don't want it "in the loop" so to speak. The only way I have ever used a cab sim with the FX loop (I have the Joyo CAB BOX of course :-) ) is sending the FX SEND to the input of the cab simulator, and then from the cab sim to the FOH or where ever, but never "in the loop" as an effect. What you CAN do, is get on Amazon, and get the Seismic Audio 1/4" TRS to XLR out cable. They are about 1" in length, and allow you to have XLR out. I personally use this myself for ANYTHING like this that doesn't have XLR out built in, and it works for me. A guy claimed that it wouldn't work, after I had already said it's what I was using, so let me tell you, it works FLAWLESSLY for me. If you have ANY questions, or concerns on doing this, or need a link or something, don't hesitate to ask!
@@DroneShotFPV that's good to know. I'm probably not gonna play my rig live (covid related restrictions) but when i do, at least i have an option. So to recap it's guitar> joyo preamp house> nux mini cab sim> trs to xlr out> FOH.. does that add up?
@@chuckiemiguelbacolod8558 Absolutely, you got it right! It's been a solid setup for me. One of the reasons I use this cable is a "stereo" rig. I have the Preamp house and CAB BOX as one "output" to FOH, and I have another micro amp that doesn't have XLR out connected with one of those cables to FOH from the output of the Micro amp. Here is the link to the cable I use. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051QLQ5G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
For me every distorted sound sounds the same.Compressed like a hell by pickups.
Did you read the description? This was discovered after talking with the guy who invented this device. There is a SPECIFIC way to change the channels properly, otherwise every channel has the same sound. When I was testing this before making a video, I switched channels properly, unfortunately, until after the video I didn't hear that I had not switched them the same way.The amp in question that was heard through the entire video (aside of 1 of the others) was the EVH amp model, which is DEFINITELY more compressed. There was another video / audio uploaded with different sound samples to rectify this issue.
Hey bro, something is wrong, when you change from channel A to channel B, you must change the amplifier, in this review all the amplifiers of channel B are the same🙁
Thanks for the video👏🏻
Are you referring to the one you have? ALl of mine are different, but the compression of UA-cam has brought them to "similar" structure. Anothere issue here is these are the "out of the box" sounds, I didn't mess with any of the EQ settings , gain, etc on any "amps" aside of the Fender, and in my opinion, they are all very similarly dialed in from the factory to be sorta similar / gainy in sound. Once you tweak the EQ, they really come alive as well. But in person (and in the FULL demo I created) the sounds are definitely different, but keep in mind Channel B is definitely designed for a more High Gain / Chuggy type of sound. Yes, you can get more than just the heavy chug, but as an example, the AC30 tone on the B channel of this pedal, I get the chimey British style VOX tones, where the Marshal I get that Mid Scooped crunch / heavy sound. The full demo video I have yet to upload (I am a slacker, this current issue in the world has made me busier than I ever wanted to be lol) will showcase this, as well as the new IR's and EQ'ing I have in placeee will better demonstrate it than this "quick and dirty" video I currently have up. Thank you for your comment! And again, if you mean on your pedal, that the sounds don't change unless you move from one amp sim, then back to the one you want, there is definitely a problem. Let me know, and maybe I can help you out!
I made this pedal with Joyo's engineers😃
And I mean that you must first change from channel A to channel B and then change the type of amplifier.
If you listen to each dirty preset, they are all the ones stored in the memory😕
Only one type of amp can be stored on each channel.
@@axelmoya7022 I see what you are saying, you mean when you first load it up, you select whatever amp you are wanting, and it will work fine, but switching to anything else you must load it the way you said? Is that what the flashing light means? I can't ever get any answers from JOYO on those sorts of things, and their manual is SERIOUSLY lacking. Which is why I have been documenting what I have been doing (not yet uploaded) to help those who were stuck like me. Which probably makes sense why when I was tweaking, everything sounded much better than "out of the box" , because I was switching things all around similarly like you said. Anyway you could private message me somehow, as I have a couple questions for you? I won't bother you, but I have a few questions I haven't yet figured out I want to pick someone's brain about! Also, if you did this, you did AMAZING!
Yeah bro, send me a mensage, axelmoyamusic@gmail.com 😀👍🏻
Can you just plug this straight into the DI? I don't have the cab simulator
You absolutely can, it has an XLR out as well as a 1/4" out. You can put the built in cab sim in the Preamp House on the XLR out, the 1/4" out, both of the outputs, or none of them. I wouldn't do Direct out without the cab sim though, just my opinion and preference sound wise. In my upcoming video I will be demonstrating a deep dive that includes going from my guitar straight into the preamp house, and them from the preamp house straight to my DI as well as other things.
Thanks for the quick response! I’m looking forward to getting mine and also to your next video. To my ears the dirt channels all sounded very similar.. hopefully I can get some differences in there
@@michaelbreach5862 Yes, out of the box they are "similar" but through the compression of UA-cam, it sounds like they are all practically the same. That is mostly my fault, as I should have tweaked them a little better on the drive channels, but I wanted to get a quick (hahaha, 30 minutes quick!) video out there. I should have my new one up in a day or two, and hope you enjoy what you hear / see! I will also be using a couple different guitars and pickup combos.
You will ABSOLUTELY enjoy yours once you get it, I can assure that!
What if you try to stack or combine it to the A.D.A GCS-5 as the cabsim? Want to know how is the sounds like. Can you please make the video review of it..🙏😁
I unfortunately do not have the A.D.A. GCS-5 otherwise I would. I do have the DSM OmniCab though!
So all the overdrives sound the same.mmmmm
If you read the comments and description, the creator of the design contacted me, and told me how to fix that. It has to do with changing the patches a specific way due to the how the save function works. I am actually in the middle of a reshoot of the patches to demonstrate this. It's actually pretty simple to do, but just moving patch to patch after a save will result in only the "saved" patch being the dominant patch.
@@DroneShotFPV Did you ever do a reshoot?
@@prometherion3089 I actually have. I have yet to upload it, as I wanted to add a few things that I discovered, as well as the difference between using the built in IR and the CAB BOX IR's that I love. I think it will be a great video! I am going to attempt to upload it within the next couple weeks as I edit it and verify for quality. Thank you for your interest!
Nice IR! Where did you get it?
I truly don't remember, but I can tell you it came from one of the packs I have bought and painstakingly EQ'd a lot. lol I will see if I can look up where I got it, Possibly Glenn Deluane, but don't hold me to that! Thank you for the compliment as well. The PreAmp house does a LOT of the work, but the IR loaded in the CAB BOX does the rest. It truly is a great combo!
I found it, looks like it is a Glenn Deluane IR! My memory actually works, that makes me happy. I will be glad to upload some that I have done / modified that were originally free if interested?
@@DroneShotFPV I use the Joyo Cab box and import my own IR .. though yours sounded great!
@@anthony27436 Thank you so much, I will gladly share. I will put together a package of a few of my primaries, including this one for you!
@@DroneShotFPV thank you so much! The distortion pedal I use is the El Rey Dorado .. in my opinion probably the best Van Halen in a box! I bet it sounds nice with some of your IR! Thanks again
Do you recommend this over plugins? Frustrated with the dsp neural stuff and started looking at recording preamps or amp heads with outs for silent recording like the h&k, revv or new engl stuff.
I absolutely love this thing over plugins. I have a love for SOME plugins, my Helix Native is a good plugin, for example, but I love this thing, paired with the JOYO CAB BOX, which lately I have been loading with Hesu 2x12 and 4x12 cabs loaded with Demon speakers, as well as some ChopTones "Metal Pack" IR's, and these things paired together blow me away. I bought a second CAB BOX, and sometimes run a DSM Simplifier, or Walrus Audio MAKO ACS1 through the second CAB BOX, and get a stereo output, for a wet, dry, wet sound, and sounds killer! I also have used a second Preamp house though as well.. I HIGHLY recommend one of these, and if you can swing it, run it with the CAB BOX, and load your favorite IR's, tweak, and rock out. For gigs with a FOA connection, I will bring just a board with these on it, no amp, and just go straight to front of house, and they are amazing.
@@DroneShotFPV thx. Even for high gain tones? How about the strymon iridium, maybe thats more for vintage tones.
@@fredriksvard2603 The Friedman BE100 model on the Joyo preamp house is amazing at high gain, and again, matched with an IR designed more around High Gain amps (Mesa oversized, for example), this thing will just rock out and drop heavy tones. The Iridium, as you said, is definitely designed for classic style tones, BUT you can get high gain stuff out of it as well... For me though, and the price, the Preamp house is way more worth the "test run". Here are 2 pieces of tracks I hurried together not too long ago using the preamp house and the cab box, along with one of the new guitars I built. While these samples are MEGA gain, they are still only set at about 2:00 on the gain threshold of the JCM 900 model on the JOYO Preamp House. Let me know how they sound. Remember, these were quick and dirty samples! lol innotech-inc.com/innotech-inc.com/new_jam.mp3
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@@DroneShotFPV Sounds like you know your way around gear lol. Think ill order one, i have some good ir:s, GGD, twotones etc.
That's a lot of gain yes. I hear some fizz in the 2-4(?) khz range, you want some of it for texture but typically it's a harsh type of fizz with plugins. I'd tame it a bit with an eq myself, but it could also be that my speakers are harsh. I usually end up on the muffled side of things when i mix. I try to listen to it on various headphones etc, but as soon as i try to open up the sound i just get annoyed by all the harshness..
@@fredriksvard2603 The fizz on my setup was the mixer I had, and I didn't EQ at all (maybe that will help sell it as well, that it was just a raw "set it and forget it" vibe! haha Yes, I know my way around gear, I build amps, pedals, guitars, play, build boards, rig systems, you name it! lol If you want some IR's that I use, I would be glad to share with you, just hit me up and I will upload them for you.
Hi. Is normal that this joyo preamp house is getting heat up?
How hot is it getting? Also, is the WHOLE thing getting hot, or just a small spot? What voltage are you supplying to the JOYO? I have not ever noticed mine getting hot. I verified mine quickly, and it did NOT get hot. If it's getting REALLY hot, I would say there is either an electrical short, or something else happening, and would recommend a warranty replacement.
@@DroneShotFPV the temperature is like when using phone. I’m using 9v 2a adaptor
Olá, onde coloco o Preamp House na cadeia de sinais, se eu fizer a ligação normal dele, sem que use o send/return? No meio, no final da cadeia, me dá uma luz mano, haha, abraço tmj 🙏🏻
It depends on how you are trying to use it. As an example, I plug my guitar into the preamp house, the output into the CAB BOX, and the CAB BOX into my audio interface to record. If I was playing live I would plug the preamp house into the FX RETURN of your amplifier. To help you further, what equipment are you using at home for this? I can send instructions once I know.
Depende de como você está tentando usá-lo. Por exemplo, conecto minha guitarra na casa do pré-amplificador, a saída no CAB BOX e o CAB BOX na minha interface de áudio para gravar. Se eu estivesse tocando ao vivo, conectaria a casa do pré-amplificador no FX RETURN do seu amplificador. Para te ajudar ainda mais, que equipamentos você está usando em casa para isso? Posso enviar instruções assim que souber.
@@DroneShotFPV Estou usando do seguinte modo. Sai da minha guitarra, passa pelo afinador, pdl volume, overdrive, booster, modulação, delay, reverb, Preamp House Joyo e amp Roland Jazz Chorus 90.
@@homarpinheiroguitar I would plug the Preamp house into the FX Return of the Jazz chorus so it bypasses the preamp, and that way it will be just an "amplifier" and not color your sound Conectaría la casa del preamplificador al coro FX Return of the Jazz para que pase por alto el preamplificador, y de esa manera será solo un "amplificador" y no coloreará su sonido.
@@DroneShotFPV Entendi meu amigo, muito obrigado pela ajuda 🙏🏻
@@homarpinheiroguitar un placer, me alegro de ser de servicio
AND, ive owned many other pedals that are supposed to only work a certain why and if you mess with most of them enough you can stumble upon a work around method...ive had that happens many times. I have all 9 preamps saved in the all 9 different slots and they are all edited and saved to my preferences....I cant explain that any further...Im really tired of watching demo reviews on this pedal and everybody thinks it works and edits and saves differently so it is what it is. AND if the designer built this preampp to ONLY be able to save and edit ONLY just ONE preamp model no matter what then this is the worse preamp pedal ever designed and sold to the public !!!
You are wrong, unless there was some firmware update that came out... But I guess the person trying to find information by looking at videos all over knows more, because magically he just does.... Sorry pal, these are designed and limited by hardware, not software, to behave a certain way. there is only so much memory to allocate for saves, so unless you MAGICALLY multiplied the memory chips, and then found a way to slot the saves and call them PER pre amp, (which you didn't) , then what you are experiencing is just a delusion. Know why I know this? Because I build hardware like this, and have disassembled this to see what I could do with the internals. You "can't explain it further" because you truly don't have a clue from the engineering side of things, but I do... so you are 100% INCORRECT in what you are saying. and I wish there was a way to do what you said, I truly do, because I would love to save settings per preamp, but you cannot, end of story. Go ahead, tell JOYO you found a magic keyhole in their engineered hardware, and see what they say. Lets go ahead and see your examples, uploaded, RAW and unedited... or is that too hard to explain also? One other thing, any particular reason you are deleting your messages? Something that you need to hide? I screenshotted them for reference at least!
One other side note, how strange is it that you live in Southern Illinois and I do as well?
high gain pra todos os presets, horrivel isso, os parametros todos mal feitos, todos os dirtys ficaram pessimos e iguais, pqp"!
Hi drone I’m yoyi will you start streaming again?
Hey Yoyi! Yes, I will start again very soon!
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