How to Install EcoFlow Transfer Switch for Delta Pro (Expert Tips)
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
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⚠️WARNING: Installation of the transfer switch must be performed by a qualified electrician under the guidance of the installation and operating instructions in compliance with all applicable electrical codes. Only viable with indoor circuit breaker panels.
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⏳Chapter
00:00 Intro
00:27 What's inside the box-Whole Home Solution Kit
03:34 Decide your essential circuits
04:40 Where to install
05:15 Start to hook up!
07:56 Wiring
13:06 Chain with EcoFlow Delta Pro
14:39 Switching to generator mode
16:19 Testing running AC
18:36 Conclusion
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can the batteries be charged by line voltage through the double voltage hub when the gen-off-line switches are on "line"? or is that a separate manifold?
@@kevinwhite9919 Hi Kevin, Delta Pro can be switched on to power your loads when the transfer switch is only used for emergency backup. When the grid power is back, reverse charging of Delta Pro is not possible.
When will the powerstream be available in the US?
Greetings sir, can I connect 2 x30 amp inlets into that Reliance switch. The reason I’m asking because I want one box outside just n case I have to run gas powered generator on days we’re getting no sunlight to charge my Ecoflow Delta Pro, and of course I will still have the inlet inside my home for that battery.
EcoFlow:
These cables are really terrible taking up a lot of space - same for cables for additional batteries, start using 90-degree connectors.
AveRage Joe:
Great video, as always!
Thank you for the feedback! We will keep the good work!
I completely agree, I have 2 Delta Pros and 2 additional batteries, plus 2 Delta Maxes with 3 additional batteries . It's a pain to connect them side by side because the cables are short, thick, and Ecoflow didn't build them to be stackable.
I agree totally. It’s such an easy design change to make to have 90 degree cable plugs.
Awesome, I have watched many how to videos. This one takes the cake. If you are not being paid by this company, you should. Keep up the great demo's.
Wow, thanks!
The Creator of this video speaks very clearly and simply for the average joe viewers, kudos, however, i think the question of load balancing has comeup, i would take a couple minutes to show users how to use a clamp on ammetern to check the amp dtaw on each single phase circuit being connected to the transfer switch and then demonstrate how to best balance the loads so you maximize the runtime on the Delta Pros with dual voltage hub
Fantastic work Joe!!!
Cheers!
Super video and editing. Very easy and understandable to follow. You know your stuff, that's for sure and obvious. Thank You for set-up lesson.
Glad it was helpful! We will keep up the good work😉
BOOM!
Great video very well done. 👏
14:58 😂 Great video. 👍🏼
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!
explosion @ 14:58 is hilarious
There is also a kit from Bluetti for this six circuit transfer switch. I have this transfer sw with two AC300s and four B300s that i use to reduce my power bill to around 20$ a month. The system is recharged with a 3Kw array and works well on all but the darkest days. Only thing i would change is to go with the ten circuit transfer sw so i could have the option to power the circuits i am using at the time which turns out to be more than six....not at the same time but running this every day i use more than six curcuits over the course of a day.
I’ll be installing a maxed out (21.6kwh) delta pro system with a 3200w array and the 10 circuit smart home panel. Can’t wait to see how much we can affect our monthly grid power bill.
Great idea 4 add extra Eco flow delta smart battery 👍😎 please test it out on UA-cam videos
Note: I just installed this transfer switch last weekend, and it was not hard to do. Note: the AAA and BBB wires are 10 AWG and the rest are 12 AWG. The reason is that the A & B positions can be used for up to 30 amps if you swap out the Transfer Switch breakers for 30 amp ones. It matters if you use Wago lever nuts as I did.
Thanks for sharing with us👍
I was curious about connecting a Honda 2000 or 3000. Thanks for reply and your videos.
Hi there, the transfer switch in the video is exclusive to our whole home solution set (2 Delta Pros with 1 double voltage hub). It might not work with all generators. You might ask relevant brands for suggestions. The model in the video is TS 306A with L14-30P interface.
@@EcoFlowTechhello. How do I hook this transfer switch to a Delta 2 Max; it has only 15A outputs?
@EcoFlowTech quick Question. I see you attached the neutral seperate to subpanel since in the subpanel neutral and ground is seperate.
But hoow did u connect to main panels neutral when you are also dojng subpanel +mainnlanel.
Not sure the question was clear.
Basiclally how do you connect neutral on both sublanel+main panel together?
Great video thanks. Questions: I'm not interested in running any 240 or double breaker appliances so cab I wire the transfer switch to the delta 2 max 2400? it does not have a 240 plug. QUestion2: Can I use the double breaker as single or do I have replace the double bottom breaker into two singles?
You should never plug a Delta pro into an AC outlet to charge while connected to a manual transfer switch as that creates a ground loop and double ground/neutral bond. AC input is also disabled when using the double voltage hub. And connecting a single phase power station to a split phase manual transfer switch using an adapter that bridges X-Y can be dangerous. If multi wire branch circuits are used in that setup there is potential to overload the neutral and cause a fire.
The only way to provide automatic backup for grid down natively is using the Smart Home Panel which only works with Delta Pro or Power Kits.
Thank you for adding more information!
Some questions from a non-electrician regarding this.
Does the potential for a "double ground/neutral bond" mean that you can never use household AC input to charge the EcoFlow when the 240v hub is connecting the two units? If that's the case, it would seem to imply that you need to disconnect the EcoFlow from the hub, and then plug in for AC charging. True? You also mention that "AC input is disabled when using the double voltage hub" - does this simply mean that the first situation, where the double ground/neutral bond is created - can't happen because the EcoFlow disables itself?
Sorry for the longish and possibly naive questions, but my understanding of electricity is pretty rudimentary.
When I installed the Reliance manual transfer switch to have backup from a single Delta 2 unit, Reliance tech support provided info to mitigate the two issues you address.
@@user-yf2xg3oz9m Any use of the infinity ports disables the normal AC input and AC outlets (EV Adapter, Double Voltage Hub, Smart Home Panel). However, I still do not advise plugging into an AC outlet while already connected to the home electrical system (via Smart Home Panel or DVH using an inlet/interlock or manual transfer switch). So, yes, if using the DVH, you would need to disconnect from that and then charge from an AC outlet.
@@tideview1And what was the information?
AC charging from a wall out is simply not possible while using the Double Voltage Hub, by design.
Any method of attaching a power station to the home electrical system with the ground conductor in place (code/safety) would make it dangerous to then plug the AC input back into the same system. So unless you have a transfer switch that totally isolated neutral and ground (which exist but are not typical) you should never attempt that.
Interesting video. One question though since I don't like mishaps, when you're ready to fire up the generators, should'nt you flip the main switch on the main panel in order not to back flow?
I appreciate the video. I have the same setup. Can I hook my gas generator up to this
transfer switch also?
Hi there! Thank you for liking. Could you pls tell me the brand and model your gas generator? The transfer switch in the video is compatible with Delta Pro, the interface might not be compatible with other generators (gas or solar).
Ecoflow is using the reliance pro-trans panel for 6 essential circuits(30 amp). If you want more circuits, look for Reliance Pro-trans 10 panel in either 30 or 50 amps. Depending on where you shop, the 6 breaker or 10 breaker will run about $400($379-$399)
Great video. You seemed genuinely impressed by the AC kicking on. I have been wanting this set up for about 6 months now. But haven’t made the plunge yet. Do you have any initial thoughts about the performance?
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Reliance Electric also makes a 10 circuit manual transfer switch, EcoFlow does not offer that 10 switch model. One advantage of the manual switch over fully automatic switching is the reduction in complexity of the hardware with attendant increase in system reliability.
Sorry I did not see your post when I added mine. I would go with the 10 circuit unit because for the extra $20, it is worth it for the extra potential loads.
Does the transfer switch setup work with a single Delta Pro with two extra batteries? Or, do you need two Delta Pros? Thanks
Great video, what are the pros/cons of using 2 Delta Pros vs 1 Delta Pro with an extra battery?
Hi cheers! For 2 Delta Pros, besides the increase in capacity, you will also get another 3600W output which is helpful if you need to charge more appliances. Btw, if you chain two pros together with a double voltage hub, you can get a 240v 7200w max output. With 1 Delta Pro and 1 extra battery, the maximum power output you will get is 3600w output and the ac output ports is limited. To put it simply, with extra batteries, what you get is only an increased capacity. Let me know if you have other questions🙌
Great Vid! About how much on average should an Electrician charge to install one?
Thanks! I suppose that depends? How about asking your uncle for a favor? 🤩
I want to run three laptops and two tv's and a 120v well pump when the power goes out.What Ecoflow should i get?Thanks
I like the concept but from what I’ve seen (I haven’t personally tested these units) when you use the hub to create a split phase connection, the two units don’t synchronize their batteries together. Even only utilizing 6 circuits in the house, you have a high potential for unbalanced loads which could drain the battery faster on one DP than the other.
That and the odd placement for the hub connections makes it difficult to put the units side by side because you have to stagger them to have access to the ports.
Your issue is a non-issue. Just like your meter/panel from the grid it's not balanced either. Ever have a failure due to that? I didn't think you would say yes. Understand before you comment, please. For pete's sake if you have two mugs of beverage and you drink from one more than the other you also have an unbalanced load on the glass mug. So what!!!!!
I understand balancing loads very well, however in your example of the grid, you don't run out of power if you use significantly more power on one leg vs the other. With these units, if one unit runs out of power, I believe they both shut down.
another video mentioned this imbalanced load draining with the 2 Delta Pro and voltage doubler, it's unfortunate design limitation. This means users must manually switch the cords on the 2 delta pros at the doubler periodically, i think a charging box between 1 DP outlet and the other input port might do the trick but not sure
@@sunyun4425 yeah, seems like a hassle, especially during a power outage.
So I have performed the set up and worked beautifully. This morning ran into a power shortage and Turing on the breaker of the transfer switch and the Ecoflow is not turning on…Any suggestions?
Hi there, could you tell me what EcoFlow units you have on hand and their series number, thank you!
can this be done for a EcoFlow delta Max?
Wouldn’t be an average Joe video without the explosion 😂
haha lol you got it
gave me jump scare
I have an EcoFlow delta pro, and delta 2 with extra battery. I have a duel fuel generator…propane , gas. Two foldable solar panels. Where do I go from here to hook it up for energy.
Hi, if you plan to use one Delta Pro only or Delta Pro with extra batteries, you will need a transfer switch that supports 120V such as Reliance 306A1, and you will need TT30P to L5-30R adapter cord. Based on what you have right now, I recommend you use Delta Pro and smart generator for power backup.
Cracks me up why people seem to want more electrical boxes for their setups. An interlock kit is much more easy to use and install and much less expensive and for me with my delta pros it is a much better way.
Hi there, good question. Personally I think the advantage of transfer switch is that it allows you to switch to appropriate and necessary circuits for emergency power supply.
@@EcoFlowTech Not reallt because your subpanel alreadt has breakers for the essential circuits, you simply turn off all the unnecessary circuit breakers in the subpanel when you are turning off the incoming main breaker,,, This 6 Circuit Transer switch is just inserting itself in series between existing breakers and the existing branch circuits of your choice during install. Unless the Transfer switch does automatic switching, i don't see any advantages. Unless a home has a bunch of non essential circuits sharing a breaker with essential circuits.
@@sunyun4425some older homes such as mine benefit from this upgrade since the one with the house is fairly old.
if you have ecoflow powerstream, will there be a need for a transfer switch?
No need sir
Thank you, it was very useful. You did not address the recharging of the generator batteries.
Cheers! For AC charging, Delta Pro supports 1800W Max, 120V AC, 15A; 3000W Max, 240V AC, 12.5A. It also supports 1,600W Max solar input and 12V/24V car charging. If you bring it outdoors, the infinity port allows you to charge the pro from EV chargers. Let me know if you have other questions🙌
@@EcoFlowTech shitty answer, bad attitude
@@EcoFlowTech Better if you hadn't responded at all
My hunch is the Ecoflow Delta Pro recharges when grid power is restored and the Transfer switches are set to "Line"Position, and they basically forward feed power from the main or sub panel through the transfer switch and the DVH (Dual Voltage Hub) to the 2 Delta Pros. That's my guess, since as others have stated, all other AC in/outlet ports on the Delta Pros are automatically disabled when using the voltage doubler. My Hope however is that, you can still charge the DPs via the solar charging port as that is a DC input which elimates the aformentioned "Double Bonded Ground /Nuetral Loop" problem. So if you have a generator and AC to DC charger or Solar panels you can probably charge the DPs while using the DVH(hub)
Hi, sorry about that. For AC charging, Delta Pro supports 1800W Max, 120V AC, 15A; 3000W Max, 240V AC, 12.5A. It also supports 1,600W Max solar input and 12V/24V car charging. If you bring it outdoors, the infinity port allows you to charge the pro from EV chargers. @@sunyun4425
Can you get the ecoflow home backup transfer switch in Canada?
Hi there, it is not available currently😭
but what is the point for only -3 hours of backup time?
Hi, i have a question for you ...can i install 2 inlets (one outdoor & one indoor to this manual transfer switch ( but not use both at the same time ) ?
Hi sorry for the late reply! It is not supported and we do not recommend connecting two inlets to the transfer switch.
Hi there, sorry for the late reply. Yes you can.
I bought an 11.7kw Basin green Lifepo4 51.2V battery. I will charge a BG battery with solar panels via a Victron MPPT 150/35. I will charge the Delta pro from BG battery (sketch).
Output from BG battery is 50Ah (200Ah max).
After a minute of charging with an output power of 15.5A, the output power from the BG battery started to drop to 3A and then back up to 5A, thus minimally charging the Delta Pro in waves (3A 5A 3A 5A, ...). Could it be a power output problem with too much amperage (DP max input xt60 is 15A)? How can I solve this?
Hi there, could you please provide the serial number of your Delta Pro as well as more information of the sketch you mentioned?
@@EcoFlowTech we make it working ... xt60i cable problem with middle pin ...the xt60i cable was charging problem, like I thought 😁, we just isolate the middle pin and now it is charging evenly at 500w 8A 👍
Can you still use this switch with just one ecoflow delta pro? also can you still use the front 120v plugs if you use two ecoflow delta pros?
Hi there, yes you can chain one Delta Pro to the transfer switch. If you chain two Delta Pros together with a double voltage hub, you can only plug into the sockets on double voltage hub. Check out more here👉www.ecoflow.com/us/power-backup
@@EcoFlowTech Thanks. Do you have a working link to the switch you used in the video?
Sure! Here you go: us.ecoflow.com/products/transfer-switch?variant=40515604512841
hey joe can i run my hot water heater delta pro and can i run with the 2 20 amp breakers that came with the transfer switch
Hi EcoFlow here! Could you pls tell me the spec of your hot water heater and the transfer switch and what EcoFlow units you have on hand. This will help me answer your question:)
40 gal water tank with 2 heating elements 4500 watts top and bottom 240/volts reliance 6 circuit 120/240 transfer switch @@EcoFlowTech
Hi there. Yes, it can work. In the video, we use the kit 306A transfer switch and 2 Delta Pros and a double voltage hub, which can power 240V water heater. However, it is only one circuit and for the 20A output. One thing to pay attention to is that if you let upper and lower heated tanks work at the same time, it might lead to overload because the maximum output of two Delta Pros is 7200W.
Probably not code compliant around here. It is stipulated that each hot wire must have its own neutral and ground too.
Wait a minute, is there not an automatic mode so that it will auto-transfer when the power goes out?
Is manual transfer really the only option? (That just seems kind of incredible, given how great their solution seems otherwise.)
Hi there! We only manual transfer switch right now. Sorry about that.
Do you have any plans to create an auto switch? It would make a big difference.
Hello?
Conduit looks way too small for 14 conductors. Max 40% filfor 3/4 inch Conduit,l per the electrical code,,, right? I think beyond tge max wires you have to De-Rate the ampacity of the wires, making them insufficient for 20amp circuits. how is this legal?
Hi, if we don't need to use 240V could we use only one EcoFlow Delta Pro?
Hi there, yes you can chain one Delta Pro with transfer switch and connect to your home circuit.
@@EcoFlowTechhow would you do that? The plug on the front of the delta pro is 3 prong and my transfer switch is 4 prong. Bought the whole Delta Pro double hub system to plug into my manual transfer switch for my Generac 7500w generator and when I do...the two Delta Pros won't even power a light let along my refrig or well pump. My electrician said EF told him to take the covers off my delta pro's to "make sure they are wired correctly"?? After spending all that $$$$ I have to pay my electrician to trouble shoot a wiring problem inside the Delta Pro's? Terrible!!
Hi there, if you want to chain one Delta Pro to your own transfer switch, you will need a TT30P to L14-30R adapter cord.
@@watchmanonthewall3852 did the TT30P to L14-30R adapter cord work out for you?
How does the ecoflow charge when you get power back?
Hi there, it can charge via the solar panel or you can unplug the Delta Pro from transfer switch and charge via the wall socket.
@@EcoFlowTech I thought DP could recharge via the DVH,,, no? that sucks if not
DOES ANYONE HERE REALIZE WE CAN BACKFEED THE HOUSE WITH 2 DELTAPROS AND DUAL VOLTAGE HUB BY SIMPLY PLUGGING INTO ANY 240V RECEPTACLE IN THE HOME? I.E. THE LAUNDRY ROOM WALL RECEPTACLE WILL DO. This Back Feeds to the EXISTING BREAKER PANEL where it splits into two single phases to feed your single phase loads on the home. You can simply turn off the Main Breaker and Turn off All non essential circuits there. And No Electrical work is rewired. Ecoflow Technical Support told me by phone that the 2DPs with DVH automatically senses when grid power is lost and restored.
Only Catch is no Inter Lock on the main panel. In my case we do not use the laundry receptacle as our dryer runs on Gas.
The interlock plate on the panel will not disable the, dryer but you won't be able to charge via the DVH,,, in my case we can still charge the Delta Pros via 120vac receptacles in the Laundry room when the 240v receptacle is locked out,,, this cost less than $50 and most anyone can install the interlock plate.
If you have a 240vac electric dryer then you cannot do this with the interlock, as it will lockout your clothes dryer. in thus case you need to add another 2pole 240v breaker and a new 240v receptacle to connect the DVH. I would just do this next to the subpanel and it will be less than $100-150 in materials depending where you shop.
What's up guy. What's up with the gloves?
It's hard to believe anyone still uses those archaic things.. A massive WASTE time and money just to leave you very limited with what can be used in your house.. A MUCH more efficient, easier to install and use system can be bought and installed for approx 5% to 10% the price of that mess.. Maybe this video was made 35 years ago and just got posted..
You said a lot of stuff without saying anything. Good job.
@@USNEM Which words do you need help with? MESS? WASTE? LIMITED? ARCHAIC? Any semi knowledgeable tradesman knows how to light up every circuit in almost any house for under $50 bucks.. It can be done much safer than that mess you created and is 100% legal. HOWEVER, it doesn't require purchasing that grossly over-priced monstrosity 6 circuit switch nonsense.. AND since you refer to your video as "expert tips", perhaps you should learn a little about electrical devices.. For starters, a wire-nut is NOT a connector (as you stated), it is an insulator.. If you can't understand that, you should not be allowed to plug in a coffee pot...
@@twistedhillbilly6157 so what is "A MUCH more efficient, easier to install and use system can be bought and installed for approx 5% to 10% the price of that mess.". Please explain.
@@woolval1793 There are several methods.. 1. Meter collar transfer switch....... 2. Simple back-feed setup..... There are more but that should keep you busy for a while..
Seems like a system that automatically transfers to backup Ecoflow generator and more importantly switches back to grid when grid is back on.
Otherwise how do you know when grid is back up?
What is the difference between the " Transfer Switch " and the " Smart Home Panel " ? Do you need both? I have two Delta Pro's and the Smart Home Panel . will i also need the Transfer Switch too?
Hi! To answer your question:
1. They are different in nature. There are manual transfer switch and automatic transfer switch. Smart home panel is automatic electrical sub-panel (with a switch inside) that can monitor the power consumption of each open circuit (up to 10 circuits) at the same time and remotely control them.
2. Smart home panel can only chain with Delta Pros while transfer switch can chain with other solar generators such as Delta 2 Max.
To put it another way, the transfer switch is a gadget with which you manually switch to the supply of solar generators at blackouts.
@ecoflow @average_joe does this type of setup allow you to run circuits off of the DP's while the main panel is still energized from grid? Seems like an opportunity to run these circuits off battery while charging via solar and saving a few bucks each month thus getting return on investment.
Hi there, this setup is not grid-tied. When you switch to backup power(Delta Pro), the grid power is cut off. Even though the Delta Pro is charged via solar panels, the electricity will not feed back to the grid. When you switch to grid, the power goes to your loads and Delta Pro at the same time.
@@EcoFlowTech you misunderstood my question but I found the answer I was seeking. This type of setup allows you to seamlessly switch power between the grid and the EF units without relocating the circuit out of the main panel. I think this is a great setup to use your EF units when you have solar charging and avoid using grid power and thus save money.
ohhhh I see what you mean👍👍