Living With the Nissan LEAF EV | What's Good & Bad

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @epicwave7060
    @epicwave7060 2 роки тому +10

    Got this as a lease. It’s a perfect ev starter car for a family. Most of my driving is in the city of max 2 hours from home. Once a year a drive 10 hours away. I’m not here for bells and whistles.. just want a cheap ev to get from point a to b.

  • @reuveng1960
    @reuveng1960 2 роки тому +17

    I own a 2022 SV 40kWh. If you "calibrate your expectations" to your needs, you will find out that this is a perfect car to drive around the city... for an average of 30 miles daily drive, I don't need a frunk, 4WD, DCFS (I charge at home) or carrying the extra weight of a 64kWh battery.

    • @ericapelz260
      @ericapelz260 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly. I love my 2018 Leaf. Too many people get stuck on wants and overestimate their needs.

    • @mariettadashcam6857
      @mariettadashcam6857 2 роки тому +2

      Same I have no complaints I have 40kwh battery i get 150 with ac on 160 to 175 with no ac I love driving it I got 40 to 50 a day some times 100 miles have no issues getting windows tinted on mine now

  • @MidnightAspec
    @MidnightAspec 2 роки тому +12

    Putting +60 miles on the odo daily, our 19 SL base does the job just fine.

    • @PrimeAutotainment
      @PrimeAutotainment  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear it! 👍

    • @jarod3371
      @jarod3371 2 роки тому

      @Acuraman68 where do you live?

    • @ericapelz260
      @ericapelz260 2 роки тому

      Yup, I have a 2018 SV. I have pushed my range close once or twice, but the 150 miles of range has never been an issue. I'm in Northeast Ohio, and cold and snow still leave me with plenty of range for my daily driving needs.

  • @RigiLiquid945
    @RigiLiquid945 2 роки тому +10

    It's okay if it looks like an older cheap entry model for those who are getting into the EV market, or getting into their first new car, period (their alternatives might be even cheaper ICE cars). The one main issue that matters the most, is the range. This is a small efficient 2WD car, it should get 300 miles on a good day. Of the dislikes, new EV drivers won't miss the frunk, will look past the outdated look and feel. The FWD is fine, since AWD is a bit overrated (and I live where the roads are snow covered and icy for half the year).

  • @edeletteawases1868
    @edeletteawases1868 3 місяці тому +1

    I have one and it is amazing dont have any complaints about it.

  • @callmebigpapa
    @callmebigpapa 2 роки тому +2

    Fair review ! I like it. This would work great for me I only drive around 12 miles a day so I could charge once a week.

  • @MHdollrevievs
    @MHdollrevievs 2 роки тому +12

    We just sold our Tesla Model 3,We should have bought a Leaf+ instead of the Tesla. With Tesla people/business/coworkers they ALL think 🤔 you are rich 🤑 I hated that experience. Plus people want you to race them and you stand out like a sour thumb. You have to go to an approved Tesla Body shop(Only 2 in our city) Parts are very expensive and hard to get,Our Tesla was in the body shop for 3 months waiting for parts for just a minor fender bender,Cost the insurance company $17k to fix 😳 We will never buy another Tesla.

    • @jmk0822
      @jmk0822 2 роки тому +1

      Are the emojis 💬 really that necessary❔they make you come off like you’re a 13 year old girl 👧🏻 texting their crush ❤️

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Рік тому

      ​@@jmk0822l+ratio

  • @stephenwinter8892
    @stephenwinter8892 2 роки тому +2

    Here in Canada the 2022 nissan leaf is completely sold out and according to headoffice you have to wait for the 2023

  • @benlea19
    @benlea19 2 роки тому +3

    Main pro in the UK is the cost and reliability but also functionality of the internal features. I agree on the inside being outdated, however I had a brand new Cupra recently which I sent back as the infotainment system looked lovely but was awful and controlled everything, but not very well.

  • @timpalmer5805
    @timpalmer5805 2 роки тому +1

    Its a case of horses for courses you buy the car according to your likely use. The Leaf is a great all rounder whilst not best at everything. For its price against the newer competition its still a great car. I am on my second one and have had no issues with either.

  • @1DonFF
    @1DonFF 2 роки тому +2

    It's a cheap EV you're complaining about all of the wrong things except range

  • @ericapelz260
    @ericapelz260 2 роки тому +6

    🤣🤣 I'll give you some slack since you only had it a week, but that is one superficial pros and cons list. I wouldn't recommend a NEW LEAF, but a used one at a reasonable price is still worth considering. I have a 2018 LEAF SL as my daily driver, in NE Ohio.
    150 miles of range is plenty for a lot of folks, though many want more. The US average is 30 miles a day. the LEAF is not a road trip car, but not because of the 150-mile range. No, it's because it doesn't have a thermally managed battery which means DC fast-charging is slow if you can even find a CHADEMO fast charger. Fast-charging a LEAF is not good for the battery and will speed up battery degradation. Mine was fast-charged once according to LEAFSPY, probably the factory test charge. Many people don't need DC fast charging at all, but if you do, CCS is the standard. The Charging timer is very nice in the winter since my car finishes charging just before I leave for work, which means my battery is warm, making up a bit for the lack of thermomanagement.
    Frunks are a neat idea, but if you look at the vehicles that have them, they are significantly larger cars. The hood on a Tesla is probably twice as long as the LEAF, and while the F150 lightning isn't overly long in the hood, it is much longer than the LEAF. It has a very useable hatch and the back seats fold down nicely.
    NAV and infotainment.... who cares, most people will be in Android Auto or Apple Carplay.
    Pros, it's several decibells quiter inside than a Tesla, and the seats beat an original Bolt hands down, but so would a paper towel over a milk crate. (The original Bolt seat was painful, for me. YMMV) I have not been in a Bolt since the refresh.
    My last car had leather in most of those places on the doors and dash that are plastic in the LEAF. I never even notice it unless someone mentions it.
    Overall I love my LEAF and it does everything I need a car to do, and it's fun to drive. I do wish it had a thermally managed battery and CCS fast-charging, but again I've never needed to fast charge it. I even tow a small utility trailer for short tips to the hardware store. The one upgrade I am considering is a Comma AI 3, but we are renovating and I can't justify the price at the moment.

    • @thenewfire
      @thenewfire 2 роки тому

      They are cheaper new right now with the Tax credit than a used one.

    • @ericapelz260
      @ericapelz260 2 роки тому

      @@thenewfire that may change with the new tax credit on used cars, though I haven't dug into the fine print, and don't know if country of origin limits apply to used cars. The price of used cars still hasn't dropped back to where it will land now that new car production is ramping back up after the chip shortage.

    • @jeffpro8
      @jeffpro8 2 роки тому

      I agree with you about the lack of ccs connector on the Leaf. Because of that it it makes the vehicle less future-proof. Chadmo chargers are fine for the most part but are far and few these days. Thermal management is not so much of an issue for me since I live in a cold climate. I also don't use fast charger too often only on occasion.

  • @Ryan2022
    @Ryan2022 2 роки тому +2

    For me is was this or the Ram 1500 with the 5.7 HEMI v8.

  • @isaachunt5799
    @isaachunt5799 Рік тому

    these leafs are BRILLIANT. they drive like a luxery car. having driven 4 million miles in my life i tell you just buy one. probably the best daily driver car i've ever owned.
    and it costs nothing to run.

  • @brianmerrill2362
    @brianmerrill2362 2 роки тому +1

    Like the color!

  • @pjasonq
    @pjasonq 10 місяців тому

    I'll take an older outdated Nissan over the newer unreliable garbage from other car manufacturers. I have a 2015 Nissan Leaf...bought it used in 2018 and I'm still using it today in 2024. The only thing I had to change were the tires and the auxiliary battery. The only reason I'm looking at the 2022 model is to get a leaf with a bigger battery so I can drive longer distances in the Los Angeles area...great car...very reliable.

  • @blueburaq
    @blueburaq 7 місяців тому

    The two main reasons people want the bigger battery:
    1. Winter range is nearly halved. People that live in the North East, Midwest, or Canada can’t survive with a 75-90 mile range EV in the winter UNLESS they drive the national average or less (15,000/year). Someone that averages 23,000/year does a lot more daily driving, and expects himself to drive more than 100 miles on some days of the month. It’s not fun on the small battery.
    2. Battery degradation. That 150 mile range isn’t going to be 150 miles in 6 years, especially in the winter.
    That said, the smaller battery is good enough for Europe or an elderly person that has a short daily commute/routine. The bigger battery is just enough for someone that commutes 20k/year

  • @DavidPlayfair
    @DavidPlayfair 2 роки тому +3

    A Froot here in the UK.
    A Front Boot. :)

  • @jugb93
    @jugb93 2 роки тому +2

    $30,000 for the entry model? Are they fucking high? That is stupidly high.

    • @That-Guy_
      @That-Guy_ 2 роки тому +2

      The average new car price is now $47k in the US. So $30k is not too bad.

    • @PrimeAutotainment
      @PrimeAutotainment  2 роки тому +1

      It’s because it’s an EV. Other EV’s are typically much higher

    • @lmfaznboi
      @lmfaznboi 2 роки тому +3

      dont forget the $7500 tax credit and a couple for K from your state

    • @markfitzpatrick6692
      @markfitzpatrick6692 2 роки тому

      No it isn't it was 36000 in 2011

  • @EiRA-hiE-x
    @EiRA-hiE-x 2 роки тому +1

    I actually think that I should be fine with the cheap plastic interior given that how recyclable the car is and the panels are actually make with recycled ppl plastics.

  • @jmk0822
    @jmk0822 2 роки тому +1

    Extremely happy with my bolt euv over this the leaf looks ugly both inside and out 💀

  • @pootispiker2866
    @pootispiker2866 Рік тому

    No frunk in a small EV is not a con (nor a pro) imo. What are you going to be lugging around that you'll need? It's not exactly like you're gonna take a car like this cross country.
    These car reviewers 100% do not live with small electric cars and every time this point is brought up, the video host proves that.

  • @LeoTheShortGuy
    @LeoTheShortGuy 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @BTC909
    @BTC909 2 роки тому +6

    Hopefully Nissan doesn't cancel this. It needs CCS, a relocated subwoofer, modern infotainment, proper battery thermal management, more range, under hood charging cable storage for the ones who want that.

    • @happinessiskey2858
      @happinessiskey2858 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, that for sure! They also need to rework the motor. It's an AC motor that drives the front wheels. If they get rid of that, add direct-drive motors to the wheels like Teslas and many other cars have, more battery life, space for a frunk, and less weight due to not having the big motor there as well as the inverter that switches it from DC (what the battery stores it as) to AC (what the motor uses). That all sums up to more performance as well.
      I have to say in addition to this, this 2022 model shown here doesn't look all that different externally or internally from my 2014 Nissan LEAF SV. I did test drive a 2022 Nissan LEAF four months ago, and there were more things that were different so it must've been a different model. However, it still had that AC motor as I asked the dealer and looked at the specs..... whyyyy.

    • @tails300
      @tails300 2 роки тому

      @@happinessiskey2858 so you looking for permanent magnet motor like what Toyota uses in hybrids?

  • @markfitzpatrick6692
    @markfitzpatrick6692 2 роки тому

    FYI. The leaf came before the tesla model s so there were no Frunks it doesn't need it

  • @kelalamusic9258
    @kelalamusic9258 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m always amused with those who frown and complain about the infotainment screen. Man, I wish I had a Time Machine so I could transport you back to the time when the only option on a car was a radio, and heaven forbid you had to dial in a station manually. Oh, and not to mention armstrong steering and armstrong windows. How would you feel now that you don’t have all those features to fiddle with? But, you could get an engine that would cure anyone’s constipation when you step on the gas. Well, enjoy your driver distracting toys and hope you don’t get into an accident. By the way, I did enjoy your video.

  • @DebtFreeDad
    @DebtFreeDad Рік тому

    So you dislike everything they did that keeps it cheap. 😅😂

  • @OmarBermejo307
    @OmarBermejo307 6 місяців тому

    It has a steering wheel...

  • @Brian-om2hh
    @Brian-om2hh 2 роки тому

    The Leaf was a credible effort when it first appeared, and actually put the concept of mainstream electric cars on the map. But the Leaf's tech is now creaking with age, as it's rivals have matched and beaten it in many areas. For reasons best known to themselves, Nissan did not evolve the Leaf as comprehensively as they ought to have done. Sure, they've now got their fancy new SUV, but they've missed out to competitors. But hey, there are still folks out there who just want a simple, straightforward EV. I still can't understand why people in the US call Nissan Neesan. There is no letter E in Nissan......

    • @ericapelz260
      @ericapelz260 2 роки тому +1

      ...and how do you pronounce aluminum... Pronunciation is what it is... As for the LEAF, all it really needed was a thermally managed battery and CCS DC fast-charging. I love mine.

  • @francescolanza668
    @francescolanza668 2 роки тому

    I can get 300 miles On a single full charge with my Nissan Leaf not bad love it

    • @jeffpro8
      @jeffpro8 2 роки тому

      How is that possible if the highest trim level leave only has 226 mile range? Do you have a range extender?

    • @francescolanza668
      @francescolanza668 2 роки тому

      @@jeffpro8 No no range extender just the right conditions as in whether so not to cold, driving very economical and regen as much as possible. That’s the great thing about the leaf it has that great gear handle 🤔 For me is only possible with this as you have to constantly use the gear knob to regen and free wheel as well.

    • @pootispiker2866
      @pootispiker2866 Рік тому

      ​@@jeffpro8Someone doesn't understand EV range at all lmao.
      "Range extender" ???

  • @TheSeanUhTron
    @TheSeanUhTron 2 роки тому +3

    My biggest gripe with the Leaf is that its battery pack is air cooled instead of liquid. This leads to overheating in long road trips and higher rates of battery life degradation.

    • @Charlesbjtown
      @Charlesbjtown 2 роки тому

      The leaf is not designed as a road trip car.

    • @TheSeanUhTron
      @TheSeanUhTron 2 роки тому

      @@Charlesbjtown Yeah, but even if not road tripping it, the battery still degrades faster.

    • @Charlesbjtown
      @Charlesbjtown 2 роки тому

      @@TheSeanUhTron No...... it doesn't. I own a 2018, battery has pretty much NO degradation. Now the earlier models......different story. The '18 till present models are fine. There's a guy that has over 100,000 miles on his, and just recently lost a bar.

    • @TheSeanUhTron
      @TheSeanUhTron 2 роки тому +1

      @@Charlesbjtown I've seen several 2G Leaf's where Leaf Spy reports around 5% degradation only after a year of ownership and average miles driven (5-8k). Then you look at something like News Coulombs Bolt EV and that only got 5% degradation after 3 years and 120k miles.

    • @Charlesbjtown
      @Charlesbjtown 2 роки тому

      @@TheSeanUhTron Ok.

  • @jdm1039
    @jdm1039 2 роки тому +1

    I think your first like explains the reason for all of your dislikes.

  • @brianmerrill2362
    @brianmerrill2362 2 роки тому

    Plastic is a cheap feel, I get that

  • @pedrofernandez8729
    @pedrofernandez8729 2 роки тому

    No frunk cause this started out a conventional gas engine car.

  • @anglosaxonmike8325
    @anglosaxonmike8325 2 роки тому

    EV's with safety recalls for fire. Renault Zoe, Peugeot-e, BMW i4, Mercedes C class, Mercedes EQS, Mercedes GLC, Mercedes S class, Ford Focus, Chevrolet Bolt, Hyundai Ioniq, DS7 Crossback, Hyundai Kona, Mercedes EQC, VW Arteon ehybrid, VW Passat GTE, Ford Focus mHEV, Ford Puma mHEV, Ford Fiesta mHEV, Opel Ampera e, Mercedes eSprinter, Skoda Citygo e, Mercedes eVito, VWeUP, Seat Mini electric, Mini Country PHEV, BMWi8, BMWX5PHV, BMW X3 PHEV,BMW X2 PHEV, BMW X1 PHEV, BMW 7 series PHEV, BMW 5 series PHEV, BMW 3 series PHEV, BMW 2 series active tourer, Land Rover Discovery Sport PHEV, Land Rover Evoque MHEV, Hyundai Kauai, Audi A4, Audi A 5, Audi A 6, Audi A7, Audi Q5, Ford Puma MHEV, Ford Kuga MHEV, Renault Zoe, Audi eTron, Not the full list, more are added every week.......

    • @That-Guy_
      @That-Guy_ 2 роки тому +2

      In 2020 the number of ICE cars recalled due to fire risk was 1,085,800 the number of BEVs was 154,000 which is over 7 times less than ICE cars. Also, most of the cars on your list are PHEVs, plug-in hybrids that have a gas engine.

  • @ericB3444
    @ericB3444 2 роки тому +1

    It looks great if YOUS see a different girl when YOUS stare at her. She’s no beauty queen. This is from the era of “make it ugly so we don’t actually need to achieve volume.”

  • @thefilmguy
    @thefilmguy 2 роки тому +1

    I think when the Ariya comes to market Nissan will quietly kill off the Leaf due to the fact it doesn't have active thermal management for the battery pack and no CCS charging port. I don't know about ChargePoint or EVGo but Electrify America is getting rid of the Chademo chargers at their charging stations starting in 2022. Chademo is a dying standard in the US. Nissan is the only brand that uses it. Mitsubishi used it to but they no longer sell their EV that had it.

    • @smoothoperator1663
      @smoothoperator1663 2 роки тому +1

      Just use the adapter like I do!

    • @jeffpro8
      @jeffpro8 2 роки тому

      Unfortunately they are going to phase out the Leaf somewhere about 2025.

    • @jeffpro8
      @jeffpro8 2 роки тому

      @@smoothoperator1663 there's no CCS to chadmo adapter exist at least not commercially. From my research it will be very difficult to design one due to both connectors being incompatible with each other.

  • @brianmerrill2362
    @brianmerrill2362 2 роки тому

    Ugh 149 and even 226!

  • @TheAllMightyGodofCod
    @TheAllMightyGodofCod 2 роки тому

    "if you go from a Chevy bolt to this" ok... and appart from journalists doing reviews or when you need to let's say... hire a car away from home, when in the real world would you go from a Bolt to a Leaf? like, do you usually trade from a car to an older car?
    I am sorry, but I am not imagining that happening at all

    • @PrimeAutotainment
      @PrimeAutotainment  2 роки тому

      The context is as if you were shopping for EV…maybe you test out a Bolt or other lower priced EV and then test out a LEAF after that. If you do any comparison at all…it feels much older….that’s the point

  • @chiwy909
    @chiwy909 2 роки тому

    If you want a luxury freaking electric car !!!!!
    Buy $100,000 car ,,,,, Nissan leaf is for basic people who want a cheap electric car

  • @senditcars
    @senditcars 2 роки тому +2

    Who tf gets free electricity at night 😂😂😂

    • @PrimeAutotainment
      @PrimeAutotainment  2 роки тому +1

      Here in Texas we can choose our electric provider…some companies have incentives for EV owners for lower rates at night or even free hours during the night. It’s actually really common here.

    • @That-Guy_
      @That-Guy_ 2 роки тому

      I am in Houston Texas
      My nights are free and that's when I change my Tesla

    • @thenewfire
      @thenewfire 2 роки тому +1

      I think most states have discounted rates at night.

  • @kernj6454
    @kernj6454 2 роки тому

    This car is fully ugly they could have put that technology in the Nissan wingroad . Why do they make these ugly electric cars