In Defense of Rift Hunting - Guild Wars 2
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- 🔥Rift Hunting, a new farm introduced with GW2: Secrets of the Obscure is widely criticized, yet is one of the best ways to farm for your legendary Obsidian Armor. Today I'm here to tell you that you're wrong and its actually top tier content. Prepare to be offended and disgusted.
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0:00 Foreword
0:39 The Legendary Grind Rant
4:26 Why People Dislike Rift Hunting
6:54 5 Overlooked Features of Rift Hunting
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While I don’t mind rift hunting, I think people were expecting something like the Aurora, Vision, or Gen 2 legendary weapon collections.
Where you had to do a bunch of cool stuff around the world to unlock part of the legendary instead of just spamming rifts over and over.
OK for those who think that 2 months for a legendary armor piece is too long and that it is an insane grind, just check the equivalent in any other mmo. You will realise that the grind is actually shorter in GW2 and it is for a permanent piece of gear that will always be the best that you can get. For example, FF14 has relics, the grind is insane, they release a new tier with each patch and a new and better set with each expansion. So if you want the equivalent of a GW2 legendary weapon in FF14, you engage youself in a permanent grind until you stop playing. In GW2 it's a few month of what can be a casual grind and you're done. Seriously stop acting like spoiled brats.
😂😂you got the point there🎯
BDO's my first MMO, played it for a year or 2 on and off, and I never got a full PEN armor set, this the highest possible upgrade level a piece of gear can have. (or at least last I played)
because getting it via upgrading was basically gambling, and buying it with in-game money was mind numbing.
You log-in, pour 5 hours of killing trash mobs in a circle, log-out. That's what the majority of your playtime will be spent on.
BDO's also the type of game where people would keep their PC open while they go work during the day.
BDO has a system where you can leave a characrer AFK doing life skill activities.
So people would leave their PCs open for 8-12 hours while they sleep, do grocery, or go to work. And the money they make for basically keeping their PCs running 24/7? Just "decent" not a lot, just decent. Probably the same amount of money you make in GW2 by doing dailies.
And just to top it all off...
All this grinding is just for a piece of gear that's probably Exotic equivalent in GW2 in terms of stats... There's another tier of gear set called "Blackstar" where you will have to do all this and learn other systems that you will have to grind for to fully utilize.
When I switched to GW2 I never felt so pampered by an MMO in my life 😂
This, and you can do it with minimal rifting anyway, you don't need to sit on a map and do rifts all day, just do 3 convergences a week and some weekly rifts too, easy as fuck
Thats 2 months for a single set of armor if you grind for 90% of that time doing dailies/weeklies nonstop and if you're playing many chars you probably want all 3 so that's 6 months non-stop grinding. Not even wow requires that much investment if you want legendary from a boss.
I understand the grind and like it because i want to fill my time but i can also look at the pov of someone who can't even do all soto daily events everyday. Having to spend more than half a year of repetetive content every single day that might sometimes not even succeed is something i wouldnt approach as a casual player, ever.
@@ANythingsGood-of6uu I feel like you are comparing apples to oranges. I have not played wow so that's why i'm going to ask. What does it requires to have a full legendary armor set? Being a classic mmo, wow has a gear treadmill, does it include legendaries? Can you switch stats on the fly? Having played FF14, I know that "legendaries" don't have those quality of life features, that's why I used them as an exemple. So even if it is easier and faster in wow to have legendary gear, I think that GW2 grind is still worth it and not that bad concidering everything that you get.
But I agree with you that not all players should start grindding for a legendary. I do it because I still see myself playing GW2 for the next years and I go at my own pace.
the problem is that it needed a very specific grind and the "open world" was a very small part from 1 expansion. Usually with legendaries you can choose how to farm the necessary gold, t6 materials, etc. This one just wanted you to farm 1 event a gajilion times.
Excellent point. It would have been so much better if Anet had made the new Legendary armor journey require the SotO expansion, but spread the events needed to obtain the resources to other maps from all expansions. This would encourage players to purchase all of the expansions and make the grind more interesting. Even better would be to make a few different types of events that reward the players with resources to craft the new Legendary armor, so they could choose which type of events they enjoy, instead of just repeating the same type of events over and over again.
@@davidmorris2234 Then people who only have SotO are fucked
Rifts are exactly what they are supposed to be. First, they are a profitable daily activity, yeah it doesn't just give you the most valuable materials or liquid gold, but in a gold per hour sense they've always been decent, and at some points were some of the best gold per hour in the game, if you were willing to craft motivations. Second, they helped shore up some of the economy's weak points (one thing SotO did actually really well, as far as I can tell, the amount of gold even the most causal of players can get quickly has definitely increased). Third, they provided a very easy, no surprises, even boring way to get Legendary armor, that is perfectly scalable and doesn't have any wait time. Can you imagine how bad it would be if you needed to do a similar amount of world bosses instead, you'd be waiting around doing nothing for the bosses to spawn for HOURS of accumulated time. Fourth, most importantly they direct players to other, more challenging content. This is key, so many players just assume that they aren't good enough to try harder content. If you find rifts unbearably boring that is supposed to direct you toward the slightly harder convergences, or even better, PvP, WvW, or Raids. This is a good thing. Are they perfect? No, definitely not, but I don't think I've heard of or thought of a better way to pull this off.
I have no interest in making a set of obsidian armor any time some, because I do weekly raids and that just flows together well, but I still enjoy doing some rift hunting trains. As you said it’s just something I can do while barely paying attention and often that’s exactly what I want.
I will say though that I’m a little disappointed in the actual path to obsidian armor, not in terms of cost or difficulty or anything, but variety is lacking. When it was announced I was really hoping for some collections that would require a whole bunch of world bosses, because that’s what open world players already enjoy and it would’ve been really cool to do that, but it’s pretty much only rifts and I don’t find that very inspiring, even if the rifts themselves are fun.
Yeah, when it was first announced I figured it would be some stuff like the legendary amulet, skyscale (old way) like collection stuff, and world bosses/metas/dynamic event farming.
The suffused tier 2 legendary open world is that. A collection for all intents and purposes. bunch of events, world bosses (its only 3). but that gets you 2 pieces of your 6 leggy armor suffused and you do it 2 more times for the whole set. The big component for one of the gifts on each piece and are basically do 5 meta events in the soto maps. or you can farm events to get the map currency for that.
@@eternalvigilance5697 have you looked at the requirement for the suffused tier 2 yet? Its basically a collection ticking off what you just said but the downside is more grind to get. If you look at raid armor the collection is front loaded with charging the heart and stuff. for the PVE the collection is back loaded charging a suffused rune. But basically more grind on the back end.
@@neutralentr0py Nah, just working on the basic obsidian at the moment. Haven't bothered looking at t2.
As someone who only got Soto a week ago, I've not found the rift farming that bad so far.
My issue with it is what it COULD have been - It was supposed to be an Open World armor set where you can just play the game in the open world and get the armor, instead it's just 1 thing you do in the open world over and over or do convergences (That sometimes fail in public groups).
How is this open world?
well while convergences certainly help farm the essence faster, they aren't REQUIRED for the base legendary armor, only the teir 2 skin upgrade. everything that is required for the obsidian armor is open world. meta events, rift hunting, unusual coins and lighting the lanterns (maybe you could loosely call that exploration?) provisioner tokens, map completion, the achievements for the precursor pieces require you to track down and kill a certain champion boss in the open world which was pretty cool. you definitely can't just do whatever open world content you want, sure, but at least it's all open world which is what was most important for me.
When they said grindy open world armor, I thought there would be more connection to other content. Like with precursor colletcions - do a bunch of world bosses, metas a fractal or two, some rifts etc. I wouldn't even mind it going through other expansions but that it's pretty much soto only? That's a shame and a missed opportunity if you ask me.
The biggest issue I find with rifts is getting nothing but the account bound essences. (makes things feel unrewarding)
It would probably be much more bearable if the event mobs had at least a minor chance to drop some type of crafting mat with value.
All the other legendary farms give other currencies. (I switched completely to convergences when those came out, since they at least give champ bags and a chance at supreme runes of holding)
I get what you mean, perhaps it would be nice to get some more assorted loots from rift hunting. Just incase you didnt know you actually have a small chance of dropping the unstable Kryptis Motivations from T2 and above rifts which is a nice little bonus since they sell decently on the TP. They arent as expensive as the runes of holding but they do seem to drop a bit more.
@@ieatyoulol I think I was averaging about 1-1.5 per hour when I was doing tier 2 with motivations and convergence buff. I think the convergence buff ups the drop rate, if I remember correctly.
This really is a no issue, you can easily get 40-60g/hr farming t2-t3 rifts with no motivations depending on map and map rewards
@@maddoc336 If that was true, everyone would be doing tier 3 rifts as it is more than any other meta in the game by a long shot. Fast Farming lists tier 3 Rifts as about 9g per hour. Tier 3 with motivations is listed at less, ~5g per hour. Tier 1 and 2 rifts are a loss with motivations according to them. Tier 2 with no motivation is around 11g p/h, tier 2 with no motivation is ~5 and a half gold.
@@eternalvigilance5697 he not wrong, though it’s closer to 30 -40 gold an hour depending on map rewards. If the weekly map is frostforge sound or some other map with a solid map bonus for example if it’s vials of powerful blood you average out 1.1 vial per rift closed 1.1 x 40s x 15rifts per hr= 6.6 gold per hr from just the map bonus. When I was farming t3 rifts I’d often get 2 unstable kryptis motivations per hr so 16 gold at current prices. 16+6.6= 22.2 gold per hr just from those two alone not including the spirit shards/essences or other things you get from rift hunting. So in total you get around 30-40 gold per hr
Thanks for this video. I’m one of those players who did the story for SotO and unlocked the weapon thing to give me access to all the weapons on any elite specialization, and then almost never went back to the SotO maps. I didn’t enjoy trying to rush to rifts before they were completed, and then have to find another one. So I sort of gave up on the idea of getting the new Legendary armor, but after watching this, I think I’ll give it a second chance and gradually get it completed.
yeeesss! Thats 1 person convinced! mission success
Amnytas rift hunting is easy, WP midle -> glide -> kill -> Repeat.
Idk what's there to complain, we did get the "highly organized" way of farming the essence, which is convergences.
Bro for real, i made 2 obsidian sets and i only made weekly rifts (1 or 2 per day, started 1 month after they came out) and weekly convergences (started 2 weeks after they came out) the metas i made 1 sometimes 2 in a day every now and then; didn't even made them every single day. The thing i noticed would take me longer was the weird or uncommon coins (don't know their name in english, the ones from the chests around the maps) but then i found out by myself a pretty nice route in Skywatch Archipelago to open 9 of the big chests in around 10 mins that got me 100ish coins per run. When the obsidian set released i was able to craft the first on second day because i decided to take my time with the lantern lighting and then 2 more weeks for the second set. Didn't even feel like a chore and didn't craft any motivations; all i did was a few mins of each thing and that was it. Extremely surprised at how chill it is to craft the set.
The coins can be easy too if you park an alt at one of the big chests and then you will quickly have more than you will ever need.
I was very happy when i knew about a PVE Legendary Armor in development, but all the happyness was destroyed when i knew about how you get:
In example, Raids armor, you have to all the Raids; Fractal backpack, you have to make lot of different fractals; legendary trinkets, you have to make lot of different collections and kill different mobs on different locations. Even the skyscale was fine, making around the world from the egg to the adult.
Now, with Soto, the skyscale is almost for free, and the obsidian armor is locked on Soto map, making 10000000000 times the same. I was hopping that the PVE armor requires all the expansions, all the maps, all the seasons, and new collections and subcollections about discovering new things. That would be an EPIC PVE legendary crafting... not rift hunting. For "event hunting" i prefer WvW, is funnier
as an open world PVE only enjoyer, this made me go the raid route for legendary.
the WvW seem quicker to get and minus the pvp part it ticks all the boxes you mentioned in your vid
It reminds me of the old way of getting the skyscale and how people hatet the grind that was involved in some of the steps. I enjoyed it when I did it, but I didn't rush it as well. It took me 3-4 months, sometimes I wasn't working on it for a whole week, because I was busy doing other stuff I was persuing as well or just wanted to hang out within the game. If I had hyper-focused on only unlocking the skyscale I would have gotten frustrated as well. For the legendary armor and rift hunting I plan to do the same approach as well. So far I only casually did rifts, mostly while I was in an area that did have rifts along with other events. I have been playing this game since release, and I plan playing this game for years to come. I am not in a hurry to get it done.
I also unlocked the skyscale (old method) very casually over about the same ammount of time, a good handful of months. loved it as well except for a couple little parts. felt really cool going all over the world doing achievements, gathering things, watching it grow up. I haven't looked much into the new faster method of acquisition in soto but I'm sure it would have to be a bit less rewarding in the end since it's so streamlined now. but ultimately I think it's good to have that faster option.
preaching to the choir... got my title "Eternal Forgemaster" and enjoyed the ride.....great vid by the way
I like rift farming for what it is , kill stuff , summon little boss , get loot , this why i like riba too , people see that as ded brain content , but i play games to have fun , chill out .
I like trying out new classes , one day i am doing metas , other day i am doing rifts, other day story or achievments etc...
I have 27 sets of ascended armors. Thinking of what I have to do with them when I do craft all legendary armor sets made me pause and halt the grinding. Honestly, changing stat on the armors doesn't even put a dent on your bank. And with the stats most commonly used like zerk, viper or celestial, I find I really have no need of ever crafting them. I will just take my time so I don't get burnt out with the rift hunts.
I got mine by mostly just doing the weekly convergences, and some weekly rift hunting.
I generally agree with you, we are a minority I guess, also I noticed that the people that complain about rifts are usually ppl that already have a legendary set and also usually never really experienced how much grindy all the others "standard" mmos are
I have started with obsidian armor grind around 2 months ago. You only really need weekly map rotations and some convergences here and there to progress in decent pace. Also first 4 bosses in CM convs with organized group arent that hard and give you really good amount of essences.
I was excited when I first head about rift hunting. I though it would be a fun way to pass the time while making some gold, but sadly it's only for obsidian armor farming. The rewards are bad if you are not after the armor, and even if that wasn't an issue, you can only do rift hunting on certain maps each week. Over all, I was just left disappointed.
I am your average gw2 enjoyer, I like pve, instanced content, a little bit of wvw. No CM's, only completed them by chance. My main problem was that during 12 years of playing, i was easily bored. Raid leg armor was quite easy for me to farm, because raids had quite interesting fights, not requiring too much of a training (except a few) in my opinion. and while doing it you also could get quite a lot of gold and some nice ascended loot (i can even say that i have done it more for gold and after some time decided to go for leggy)
Rifts on the other side requre an enormous amount of repeatative content. It supposed to be PvE armor, but instead of doing different metas, events and map completion you are bound to do one and the same content, not too interesting on top of it. And you cant even skip it with gold. Anet should either change the crafting process by switching the half of the essenses with other open world content, or just make them tradable.
Im bored as fck with rifts and im not even the half way through first set. Doing rifst for a few last weeks in a casual pace.
If not for fashion i wouldn't have done it at all, but i like visuals of light and medium set much more than Raid leggy armor
rift hunting is just one part of the process to obtain the armor, you do also have to do the meta events, map completion, exploration, achievements for the precursors that get you to find and kill specific champions etc. and just so you know you can actually throw gold at it to skip all grinding for the essence of you want by buying unstable kryptis motivations from the TP. opening those gives you all 3 tiers of essence. it's just going to cost you an arm and a leg which is fair enough if you ask me. if you want to get the open world legendary set but skip the open world content.
@iEatyouLOL I know, but exploration and completion are tied to one region of the expack. When they announced the open world leggy armor, I hoped that it would revitalize the old pve content, that i could repeat some old long forgotten content but instead, they made a boring event grind on the old maps. In the end, people are grinding rifts on maps like Istan from LWS4 for additional bonuses of volatile magic and karma from enrichments.
The gold skip for essenses is just ridiculous. That is just too expensive, in my opinion.
In the end, the thing is that they could have done it in a nice and variative way, refreshing a lot of old open world content, but they did it in a boring and lazy way.
I think it would have been nice to add some item from metas all other the world, or maybe even JP, how they did in Gen 2 leggies
Totally agree with you, I'm working on my first legendary now, I'm doing lanterns farming for extra map currency and soon I will start rift hunting, I can see it will be a long grind and I do feel a bit overwhelmed by it, but I appreciate that there's no time gating, I don't have to wait for a meta or compromise with a group, and yes is legendary it is ment to be a long term goal and not for everyone (I also come from RuneScape and Tibia so I enjoy mindless grind xD)
hehe I feel like anyone from old-school runescape can't dislike rift hunting lmao. the shit you guys grind should be considered self harm 😂
I enjoyed Rift hunting but I'll never want to do something like it again. Also you can just do weekly convergences and complete a full set of armor in the amount of time it takes to get a wvw set with its time gate. Just 2 hours of tasks a week
Tbh I also dont understand why people say obsidian armor is a long grind, a couple of months ago I looked to what I needed to do and a month of only weekly rifts + convergences + metas on weekends and occasionally solo T1 rifts, zero crafted motivations, and i already had a piece, did the same thing for another month another piece of armor, its like super easy
Im at the same position as you are, glad to find a fellow enjoyer.
Also yeah, the positives of rift hunting are the ones I love.
hello fellow enjoyer! I knew there was at least some out there!
I think they made these expensive, because they want people to play PvP and WvW too. It seems to me, that it would be quite obvious that the simplest way to get it (PvE) would also end up taking the longest. I for one wish they'd attempt to revive some of their old content with collections for these types of things. I really hope they would sometime give people just a tiny reason to play Dungeons again. They are not that bad in my opinion.
My 2 cent regarding rift are simple: I do like them, I do like content where you can just tag along. But after 15 obsidian pieces I became a little bit burned out. That being said if you do it a lot it can become dull and take it's toll on you. Side effect of obsidian armor: I burned A LOT of materials but that's fine. In the end I got a good item for it which was worth the spending of time and resources.
the essence is easy to get at the start i farmed the rifts and the daily convergence.
now thx to time i only do the 3 weekly convergences and after each of the i do 2 of the weekly rift areas and it is enough.
i completed the medium armor and finsish 1 light armor part per week ^^.
easy relaxed legendary armor.
and if you start to farm it now you could combine it with the stuff you have to do for the upgrade.
the only two annoying parts for me are the research notes and the ecto.
I did all pieces of Obsidian armor save for 2 pieces of light armor that I had done in WvW. To be honest, the WvW were FAR more of a grind than the PvE. All I did was one convergence a day, and then one meta event per map a day. Doing whatever map completions/lantern runs when I needed to, each piece took me 2 - 3 weeks to complete. Not completely unreasonable. I don't raid, and I'm only going to do WvW again to grind for another conflux although I'm waiting to see about the public raids, if they give out Legendary insights as rewards, then I'm making coalescence.
TBH the long part for me is more about the 600 ecto.
Rift hunting is "easy" , just do your public convergence before (wich give also a gooood amount of essences) then weekly right and you are almost done.
You can redo Convergence every time it pop, it's less than 30 min , many gold to do, many essences.
But 600 ecto needed is pain in ass.
yea I can definitely understand the ectos seeming tedious for people who didnt already have a bunch since the price for them skyrocketed. Personally I traded a legendary for heaps of ectos right before I started grinding for the obsidian armor so I was in the pretty fortunate position to not have to worry about ectos at all.
The thing is that rift hunting is extremely repetitive and you have to do a lot of them. So that generally means that boredom sets in quite soon. Now, that doesn't go for everybody clearly because we all have different thresholds for grinding but just because it's easy doesn't mean it's fun. And a lot of people don't go for Obsidian armor to begin with. Personally I already got my legendary armor sets in WvW so I didn't need more legendary armor but also once you have your Obsidian armor, you will likely stop doing them entirely. That's why over time you see fewer people rifting (at least from my experience). And since there will be no more rifting in JaWi, it stands to reason that they consider this a failure.
i also have no idea why ppl hate on it so much xD, i didnt expect alot and i actually had some fun at the beginning of soto with rifts, its not amazing or fun 100% of the time, but sometimes it scrathes a itch you dont know you had
I only just came back to GW2 after a year long break and literally started rift hunting today.
Sadly, I'm still disappointed. I used to play an old MMO called Rift that ANet presumably took the idea from. That made me hope that the content will be at least similar to the rifts in that game. Sadly it's absurdly simplified with just one (I assume, having done a few dozen) basic encounter type of clearing some trash and then fighting a single, simple boss. That's not even 1% of variety that old game had.
If you're interested in that perspective I think Rift is free to play on Steam, so if you have even an hour or two to burn you will see how the most basic ones look there. Well worth it I my opinion.
it's not great but I'm glad it's in the game because it fills a niche. your 5 points are good
You are absolutely right. And, if you think about it, rift hunting is the very antithesis of raiding; its free-form. No hierarchy. No repetitive structured actions like you get in raids, with the predictable mechanics.
yoo i never thought about it like that, thats very true!
Except rifts are absolutely predictable and repetitive, it's basically the same thing every single time.
@@missk1697 its repetitive in an entirely different way.
"No repetitive structured actions like you get in raids, with the predictable mechanics"
You kill all the mobs arround, which are the same and came from the same corner (depends on rift location). Later you open the Rift, came the same 3 o 4 champions, that you know how to kill, and finish.
Find the next rift, repeat.
@@pablofernandogonzalezolmos8472 It is different. My point is about the ritual nature of raiding. Rifts don't match up, it isn't ritualistic.
The map currencies are the biggest pain. I don't mind the rifts as much since with convergence buff plus motivations you get a ton, but it is kind of annoying to dip into the essences you are saving to make motivations. They are pretty expensive to make also, sadly.
Side note: I have sPvP medium legendary since I started it a long time ago (years), and only recently finished it because I hate sPvP and the ascended shard grind is ridiculous. I have enough tickets for a whole second set, but not doing more ascended shard grinding again (Id rather do the rift grind 2x than do that again). Working on my heavy through the open world set, and I am going to get light from WvW and am about a third of the way through that set.
My idea for open world was more like the amulet, but with a bunch of collections, skyscale like stuff, and a lot of DE/meta farming.
I prefer convergences. A little less boring with the CMs. If you do 3 per week on different days, it takes you about 4 weeks with about 2 hours of grinding per week to get enough essences for one piece of armor, if my math is correct. That's only 8 hours in total for the essences!
I agree. I might also add another argument here - most of the gamers are kids, and kids nowadays want stuff NOW. I on the other hand, don't mind working for it . Also, considering the total grind of previous era korean mmos, it's really not that bad.
The real problem I have with rift hunting is getting to them before someone finishes it.
I have no issue with legendary armor as a concept for end game goal,
However I do think it having no better stats than ascended makes it less desirable to grind for especially when you don't enjoy the look of the gear.
For longevity I think Anet should have made Exotic and Ascended the same stats (Allow Ascended to have the augment multipliers) but then have legendary have the stats that Ascended has currently.
That might be a hot take.
the lfg tab for rift hunting is always empty do you just go and find people already dong it, do i need motivations?
you can absolutely do it solo, if you have a good build (mobility or pulls for the trash mobs, big burst dmg for the boss) it wont even slow you down that much, but probably a small group of players is optimal. Usually if you just chuck a message in map chat or throw up your own LFG you can find some players. A mentor or commander tag will help a LOT as well, players always flock to those on the map.
Using motivations is up to you, basically using them speeds up your accquisition of essense by a significant ammount but costs you gold. So you can do it slower and cheaper by not using them, or faster by throwing some gold at it. Buying motivations from the TP is the most expensive and fastest. I crafted my motivations myself which saves a BIT of gold but isnt quite as fast since youre using essence to craft motivations.
Often in Amnytas or Archipelago you will have people running T2s or T3s but just with mentor tags up, so you wouldn't see that from the lfg but if you're already in the zone you can catch them.
@@ieatyoulol thanks for the replay, Will do
It's just incredibly repetitive and boring. No variety of enemies, no interesting fights. Just bash 1 against a gray blob that stands there over and over and over again.
Ofc legendary armor would have required some grinding, but there are forms of grind that are fun, this isn't.
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it wouldn't have been so miserable if there was some variety even just in mobs
but the whole expac we were just spanking the same 5 mobs over and over again, every meta, every story instance, every rift... the reason why I like convergences way more than rifts is because at least there's a chance for umbriel, which has the ppl always on edge if they can win
obsi armor was my first legy armor, I completed the heavy set and won't ever go back to soto maps if I can help it
if I want armor for medium or light classes, I will rather get get the raid armor
Convergence saved the rift hunting for me. You can do 3 weekly convergence quests in 2 weeks and still get tons of essence which can be enough for one piece of leggy armor. What bothers me most is starlight lantern thing. It makes me irritated
thats fair enough, I ended up learning a little tip about the lantern lighting way too late which helps SO much, so just incase you weren't aware; you can remain mounted the whole time, and dont need to stay in range for the full channel to light the lanterns. You can just interact with it and continue on, and it will still finish lighting after the channel no matter how far away you get. This probably at least halfed the time it takes me to finish a map.
@@ieatyoulol I already knew that its doable while mounted but do I really go out of range and still it gets charged? I wish I known before lol. Thanks for the tip!
@@emreucar3071 yes its a gamechanger, I just make sure to keep an eye on the bottom corner where the completed achievement popup shows as it will show there when you successfully light a lantern just incase it bugs out or something I can see that it didnt light and I dont have 1 missing when I get to the end.
Generally wiki will have a route mapped out for each soto maps lanterns, i agree it’s a bit of a ball ache to get all 3 maps completed over and over, but they take like 15-20 minutes each to do! Not actually that bad, the idea of it is worse than actually doing it 😊
So i was abit late to getting into this expansion after some burn out, still grinding up my legendary armour. I am worried things like convergences will slow down once the new expansion comes out for some new more profitable meta
an understandable worry, but in my opinion I reckon enough new people will continue wanting to get open world legendary armor to keep soto content very populated for a long time to come. gw2 has a great history of making content that stays relevant and popular with only a few exceptions. I mean look at heart of thorns content. octovine is still one of the most popular meta events to this day even tho it came out with the first ever expansion in 2015
Rift Hunt is bad due: no reason wide spread mobs that cover a pretty big area along with the distance inbetween Rifts, sometimes it's needed to cross the whole map
Realistically, i need a week of dailies and weekly to gather enough essence and luck, and ectos for a piece of armor.
Compare to aurora, it took me 2 months.
Have you guys hear about the game destiny 2, if yes then you know how causally easy this is if not, then leave your job, wives , life style and forget touching grass... That is how i sum up grind in d2 and its not at all permanent xd you need to do that every 3-4 months.😂
Underrated point in the discussion of rift hunting vs other armor types: open world PvE is without a doubt the worst performing part of the game. You're not only signing up to do open world rift or convergence events for months to farm the essences, you're signing up for basically unplayable 20-40FPS gameplay OR severely turned down graphical settings (we're talking low to lowest on model limit and quality, no shadows, limited animations, etc.) while you and a balled group of players kind of just throw aoes out on repeat. Compare that to raids, where they actually run quite smoothly and there's a lot more visual acuity, PVP which runs even smoother, and WvW where admittedly there's very much a boon-ball and frame-killing group aspect, but much less monotonous in the content itself I'd argue.
I just don't understand the argument for doing open world weekly for months over raids when you can complete essentially 4 wings for the same amount of time once a week to make more than enough LI for the armor, and you get not one but two whole sets of armor during it. Your enjoyment of open world rift hunting because it's reminiscent of the mindless MMO is why I think you enjoyed it so much, but I'd argue that the majority of players are the opposite.
If you are able to reliably get into raids every week, sure. I have crafted one and a half sets of obsidian armor, but I have only gotten 40 LI in the same time frame which is a long way off then the 300 I would need for a second set. But that's also the great thing - you don't have to ever craft a single piece of obsidian armor if you don't enjoy it or don't want to. It's an option that's available, and you don't have to do it.
@@Lannachi That really feels like a cope-out answer. Content is boring and poorly optimized but you don't have to do it.
@@Lannachi There's just simply no excuse for not being able to 'get into raids' nowadays unless you mean being able to sit down for 2-3 hours once a week. Skein Gang, Raid Academy, Xcellence (NA), Raiders Inn (EU), Hardstuck, Darens channel, Calculated Risk, Void Lounge, Emidotexe's server all run multiple training runs a week. Specifically Skein Gang, if you practice your build and come in slightly prepared, you will easily get into a static where you have guaranteed players every week to run raids with you. With all the information available nowadays I don't think it's particularly hard to do passably well on DPS, too.
I agree on your thots hier werry much. I played 2 years free-to-play core game, than 2 more just slowly caching up with the content, that wos sommer befor EOD wos comming and being deleid for end of ferbuary. You probablly know that thay reliced that quest 'Retourne to'-achievement--> for meikin up for the delay where we should get Legendary Amulet plus bunch of stuff on the way on rhe relice. It wos the best gameplay for me, that jurney. I took fresh new character and decided to learne it slowlly-elementalist Tempest. Doing that demistified my atitude for Legendarys and in that year wen EoD come up i gathered all Leggy-Trinkets, last being WvWvW backpack Warbringer. Its so good, and you are completly right, its sooooooòoooooooooooooooo long ride. Wen i got that right i wos fine, its gaming day by day slowlly towards it. Up thill now i meid 2 Legy armor sets(WvWvW) and left one for this one PVE-one (2 peaces done) and several Legy-weapons. Once you know wot is infront of you and accept it its not bad at all, it becomes a fun grind. That's me;)
Thanx once more🐣🎯🐣
its so funny people complaining how grindy it is to get a set of pve legendary armors, well it should be, because compared to wvw where you have to participate on killing other players who also tries to kill you so you can finish your weeklies and wvw reward track and skirmish ticket chest plus the limited amount of tickets you get per week, honestly it took me around 6 months to finish the whole set. now that is the real difficulty.
WvW takes 22 weeks if you participate every week, and honestly it doesn't take much PvP since you mostly run around with a zerg and just keep participation up. You could even just take camps and other solo stuff and keep participation up, and run from any PvP fights if you wanted to. The only thing difficult about it is the ridiculous time gating by capping skirmish claim tickets at 365 per week.
Finished the Obsidian Armor in no time compared to what the other's would take me and I only did weekly rifts and convergences
It's just boring. There's no way aorund it. I don't wanna do a short questline for it. I don't care that it takes forever. I want it to be fun. If it's going to take months and months, thats fine, but rift hunting is so fucking boring. The content is lazy design.
Guild Wars 2 has this "problem" that it's a very untraditional MMO and therefore also attracts alot of Non-MMO Players. Like, farming Materials n Stuff has always been a huge part of any MMO, really. Yet you really notice some people getting really frustrated, really quick when there's the slightest bit of farming required in the game lmao
I uninstalled GW2 during the main SotO time. The story was alright, but once I was done there was nothing for me to do that I enjoyed.
The meta events were underwhelming, same for the maps. Rrift hunting was fun for like a day and then it was too mind numbing for me. The content from other expansions were more engaging for me.
Considering I already had legendary armour for all weight classes and they even stole the 6th rune effect from me, only to give me the effect back months later, they really lost me there.
Recently I picked GW2 back up in order to make a legendary spear and also the recent balance update seems good
The rift hunting train idea is something I could get behind though.
I will try not to set any expectations for Janthir but I hope its not the same as SotO for me personally. Everyone has their own perspective of course.
Wtf, Convergences are fun, rifts do provide me with some t6 often times, karma and gold drops = ectos.. WvW set was pain in the ass.. (btw i have all kinds of lege armor already)
Didnt mind tier 3 farming esp with skyscale weapon drops.
Hahah the easiest Armour to get is from wvw I have only one piece to go.
Omg you don't even need to fight orther players in it.
Oh it's taken me just over one year to do so.
Oh I have all 3 sets almost
You dont need to fight other players, but it speed up the process.
@@pablofernandogonzalezolmos8472 yes that's true and why i only have one piece to make all 3 sets of armour.
All you need to do is get the 300 wvw tickets from the chests each week, you could do the wvw weeklies if you do all of them you get 90 wvw tickets
Other than Obsidian Armor there really isn't any benefit in doing Rift Hunting. Also essences can be more efficiently obtained from convergences. There is no use for essences other than Armor, you can't make viable amount of gold to justify time spent on doing Rifts.
Its not that Rifts aren't necessarily fun, but what exactly are you getting in return? The purpose of Rifts is simply grind for Obsidian Armor, if Rifts are to be more popular then rewards also have to be equally popular.
The purpose of convergences is to grind for obsidian armor. Other than obsidian armor, whats the benefit from convergences? why wouldn't I just do fractals or strikes or raids if I wanted more benefit and not a load of essences? convergences offer a slightly more efficient return on essence than rifts, you just need a very slightly more organised group and theres set times where you do it. The rifts are just the system that exists in the open world. You know for the open world obtainable legendary armor set. just to be clear I've ended up doing a mix of both, like 50/50. The way you make gold from this content from what I understand is crafting and selling motivations to other players if you don't need the essence. I've not had a need to do this to compare gold per hour to other gold farms to have the question of what I might be getting in return in fairness.
@@neutralentr0py Yeah you're right about convergences, and gold too. If someone enjoys doing Rifts why not, but clearly majority don't as motivation is lacking. You don't get rewarded.
Motivations don't yield enough gold to be worth it, prices have dropped considerably now.
Nothing wrong with doing Rifts, but Convergences give you enough essences to craft one amalgamted kryptis essence, timewise making it more efficient.
@@neutralentr0py I've had quite a few bag runes dropping in convergences
30-40 gold for half an hour is quite nice but yeah it's not consistent
still doing a convergence daily whenever I log on, I just like fighting hell sister or umbriel lol
I farmed it for some medium fashion pieces (not the whole set, since i already had leg. medium).
No it sucked. Really bad. Amnytas made it a little more bareable due to the central TP being abused with griffon mount. Other than that it sucked. Boring. Not inspiring content, monotonous. Convergeances made it a tiny bit easier, but easier doesn't equal more fun. I almost fell asleep in every instance. Never again.
Im perfectly fine with the idea of taking several months to get a legendary armor. I just don't want it to be repeatable boring content. If it is a chore to play why should I bother ?
What's terrible about this system is that it is extremly monotonous and not even good to begin with. It's the same mobs I've been fighting during the whole expansion and I was already fed up before Nayos release. So now I have to farm those same boring recycled reskinned mobs created years ago for several months ?
That's just bad content. Soto is bad content in general.
Nah. It's boring, uninspired content that lacks any variety in either gameplay or rewards. Literally bounties 2.0, except with bounties it's just one shitter i need to solo, not a bunch of worms all around.
The events are shit. You cant farm what you can’t enjoy. Says me, the meta train enjoyer.
I've only done rifts to further the story, and god do i absolutely HATE it. It's so tedious and boring. God it makes me mad.