Duke Tobin's responsibility and Bengals' offseason checklist with Mo Egger
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- Paul and Mo take on the outlook of the Bengals' offseason on Balds Don't Lie.
(2:00) The Bengals passed on making Duke Tobin available this week. Fair or foul?
(16:40) Most important element of the offseason checklist
(27:30) Where else will the drama come from? Trey Hendrickson?
(36:00) Important thoughts on orange pants and crossing guards
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The weakest link in the Bengals organization is ownership. It's been that way my whole life. I'm only 40 but the first thing I learned about our local pro team is ownership is cheap, stubborn and they change at a glaciers pace
The idea that they can't sign Tee, Chase and Trey is FALSE. If they wanted to they Can.
Yup
Hit the nail on the head with the “help us understand” line. We love this team and really want to know what the plan is and why decisions are being made. Instead they don’t tell us anything, literally nothing.
You’re crazy…. Those orange pants are 🔥 with the white jerseys
Guys…..Cody Ford is not a starter
I don’t understand how people are paid to cover & talk football and can have this opinion.
When Mo said “ not at an all pro level but a guy you’d be happy to start all 17 team games” I just immediately thought god damn how low is the bar that this is someone’s opinion.
Cody Ford and “not at an all pro level” goes without saying.
If ford's your 5th best ...at guard its better what weve had last 4 years
Remember, these dudes are more like Bengals Cheerleaders than ACTUAL reporters!!!! They're most likely PAID to bring up subjects, no matter HOW stupid they can possibly be, as long as they're talking points the Bengals WANT to be spoken of!!!! A little cash primes the pump of these clowns, while acting as if they have some kind of objective impartiality with regards to a certain subject, like the O line discussion, they'll simply throw out a Bengals talking point that the team wants addressed, to ease the subject into everyday media discussions, and they'll make it seem like an obvious answer to the subject at hand, after bein TOLD BY THE BENGALS THAT THAT HAS TO BE THE ANSWER!!!! "WELL, THE FORD KID WAS UNHEARD OF REALLY BEFORE NOW, SO HE'LL DEFINITELY BE CHEAP AS THEY COME AS A STARTER, MAKE SURE YOU BOYS MENTION FORD SHOULD BE A STARTER, NOT TOO EVIDENTLY, JUST IN PASSING, THEN, YOU CHANGE THE SUBJECT"....
My dad wanted him cut lol. I’m over here in the middle, like “he’s obviously not great but he’s supposed to be there for depth not regularly starting. And as depth, you could do a lot worse.” But yeah, he’s definitely not a starter. If they go into 2025 with him at the top of the depth chart at any spot on the o-line, we’re in trouble.
I love the orange pants and NO it doesn't look like the browns 😂
Happy Friday,
I usually dont get mad about the if's, and's, or but's once the season is over........this season is different for some reason. You have 3 players that were the best at their positions and sitting home for the playoffs.....UNACCEPTABLE.....Not being ready for game 1, only rushing 3 at the end of the KC game, bad coaching decisions at critical game times, not getting help at the trade deadline, game oon the line and your best receiver is off the field, running the ball 3 straight times against a great run defense when you'vebeen mocing the ball all game with the game on the line.....These are all bad coaching issues that didn't NEED to be.....you win one of those games and your IN.....now we have an extra month and a half of moch crap....GET IT TOGETHER.
Great show!!
Im listening to you guys to here that it could go any number of ways ! Really. I can't get those 15 minutes back
Duke NEVER gonna be fired. Only way to get him gone is retirement. Lifetime job security with Brown-Blackburn family
Love that question @28:30
Am I the only one that likes the orange pants?
Yeah but give black helmets with orange stripes
Yes, yes you are
No
Yes. Bandwagon fan. The pants for these uniforms are atrocious. They botched the bottoms but nailed the tops
@stevemiller1345 only bandwagon fans like orange pants? Odd thing to say.
I’m with Mo here on the o-line. Seeing Joe behind a good offensive line(not even great) is such an exciting and obvious prospect and would lead to a few more wins alone.
The point none of you seem to understand is that Joe's playstyle, combined with throwing 50+ times a game is going to make any and all OLs bad. Joe Burrow and this offensive scheme is more to blame than the 5 players in front of him.
Let's get a couple of guards with legitimate NFL ability and find out
Cappa won a super bowl and looked just fine with a sensible QB behind him. And, as predicted, he has gotten worse the longer he has been here and the more they pass. Eventually you all need to admit the obvious.
@@Montrovantis Cappa won a Super Bowl, with an asterisk. He was the starter all 16 of the regular season but he got hurt in their first playoff game, and that ended his season. So he did not *play* in a Super Bowl, or even a conference championship game since he also got hurt before *our* postseason run in 2022. Any time people bring up (Lapham did this all the time) that we had a line with 3 SB winners, I kind of rolled my eyes because it’s an overstated distinction. Orlando Brown is the only one who actually contributed in a Super Bowl. Karras was a backup with New England when he won his two SBs.
The tax payers of Hamilton County paid for the building they work in. Communicating with them should be the least they can do! It should be a requirement not an option.
I also agree on finding another Mims into the draft maybe first round pick!!!THEN start looking for better DEFENSE players PERIOD❤😅
Cody Ford sure af better not win a starting guard spot next year. Quit effing around and draft high end guards early. There is nothing more important than protecting this franchise and pressure up the middle has pretty much ended Joe Burrow's season every year one way or the other
Paul and Mo, if I could, I would like to paraphrase the HOF QB Troy AIKMAN 3 x SB Champ etc. who spoke during the last regular season game. He talked about how people do not understand how difficult it is to operate as Oline in a primary Shotgun formation offense where lineman rarely get to attack in other formations more suited to run, and have play action passing etc. mixed in with shotgun spread.
I will paraphrase every former offensive lineman : They appreciate it when they get to have plays where they can go downhill.
I will paraphrase Bengal legend. David Fulcher again and again he has said defenses have it easy when stopping the run against a shotgun formation and he wishes the Bengals would switch it up more.
During the starts with Jake browning the Bengals ran more pro and 2 tight end sets under center and play action, wow suddenly the interior of the offensive line was suddenly much better.
Look, I enjoy Joe and Jamar and Tee and the razzle dazzle fireworks, but we have to be honest with ourselves. The offensive limited scheme is difficult for any lineman to perform at a high level.
If Zac and Joe want to stick with the same 12 shotgun plays every week then prepare to complain about the Oline and gong 9-8 and having our own Dan Marino style and Andrew Luck results. I hope they diversify the offense besides joe cannot keep taking 12 hits per game or whatever it is.
I would rather they win Super Bowls then have empty calorie offensive numbers at the end of the year.
The Detroit Lions have a superior offense compared to the Bengals.
When is the mock draft episode?
Mo is the best we got in
Cincinnati
Most interesting FA topic is Tee and it’s not close. It’s going to be their rebuttal to Burrow’s first ever comments openly criticizing the FO. Could be the start of change OR could be more of the same, a la Carson Palmer. Compounding with Tee being a very large part of the team. The ball is in their court.
We could have a top 4 O-line and Joe is still going to get hit a lot when you have a head coach callling plays whose run to pass ratio is 30th.
If you throw 50 times a game you lose
The Bengals front office doesn't care about winning they care about making and saving money.
How about Antonio Pierce for DC?
This is really the first time the BENGALS DIDN'T WAIT PERIOD😅
Cody Ford is a good backup. He had 3 years of starting and his ceiling is league average. Exactly what you guys said they should get away from. Next year on the offensive line here is what in would do. Orlando Brown Jr at Left tackle, Volson is history he is a backup now and i wouldn’t move Teddy K over to left guard. He played left and RG for the Patriots a lot more than center. He has taken more snaps at guard than he had at center. He would be better than Volson in that slot unless Volson just blows everyone away next year. Matt Lee is the new starting Center. He is ready he is good the only way to get expertise is to get out three smd play. I never want someone to get injured but that injury to Trent Brown was kind of a blessing in disguise because Mims got it play almost the entire season. And he was league average in most of his game and above average I. Some of them. Mims is going to be good. Like Pro Bowl All Pro kind of good. And I guess Alex Cappa will play RG he has one more year on his deal too. Cappa didn’t impresss me this year. He was already slow from day 1 when he got to the NFL but now age is creeping up. I know Karras is older but he doesn’t play like it. Ted Karras the first 2 years of his rookie deal he wasn’t a backup and didn’t play much so he doesn’t have as many miles on himself as most would. Jaxson Kirkland is good guys. He can play either guard spot or either tackle spot quite well. It sucks that he got hurt this year because when Volsons play went downhill Kirkland would have been playing not Cody Ford. I think they need to keep for too. Both Kirkland and Ford are super versatile. They can each play any position in the line exept center. So Ford, Kirkland, and I guess Trey Hill would be by backup linemen. Maybe a 9th guy Bonaire.
Tobin has some good hits in drafts. Man, when he misses it’s really bad. Probably the biggest reason for the lost season. Quit reaching for needs and take the best player on the board.
Tobin needs to go. He has NEVER been a good drafter or evaluator. People liked to say he was after he drafted Burrow, Higgins, Wilson and Chase. But those players picked themselves and it was the only time he drafted to consensus. If he had done that other times we'd have Creed Humphry and/or Jenkins, /and or Barmore, and/or Dickerson, and/or Cosmi and/or McNeil and/or Milton Williams instead of Jackson Carman. Or Karlaftis, Linderbaum, or a couple of other preferred options to Dax Hill (while keeping Bates, too). We could have Sam Laporta instead of Myles murphy. they could have moved up and gotten someone better. Murphy, Carman, Dax Hill and many others have been head scratching trash picks that we knew at the time and has proven out. Tobin does nothing but handicaps this organization.
I’ll never understand how Zac isn’t put under fire for being an offensive minded coach but never had a competent offensive line for the past 6 years.
IF not during anything it's would be the same thing all over again next season PERIOD!!!
Guys come on you don’t want Cody ford starting on any oline look at the dudes pff ratings he is an nfl backup and that is wven flimsy
Duke like Mike would be fired in any other organization
I am a fan either way
But think you lads should be laying out their poor draft picks for years
Cordell SHOULD become a backup guard not a starter and find that in the draft maybe at number one PICK!!!really Cody FORD PLAY BETTER PERIOD!!!
Kansas City DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO PERIOD!Keep THER STARTED healing WELL PERIOD!NOW it's time to repeat for the SUPERBOWL😂
They need both players TEE and TREY NEXT season TOO repeatedly make its back to any SUPERBOWL!😛
You forgot the PERIOD
Tobin has no right to not speak. Tax payers pay for the building. Respect for Zack for his Tobin speaking agenda. Tobin needs to go. His last few drafts are lendendary as low draft building. TOBIN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR JOE CURRENT INJURIES! Ford as a starter. He a 6th man. DRAFt right!
In 54 years of following this team religiously like many others. Have NEVER heard the voices of Troy or PaulH. Why are they hidden away like Pete was?? Suspicious. My guess is we'd see how football deficient they are
Duke Tobin does not speak to the media for two reasons. 1) The Brown Family requires/supports it, and 2) popularity of the team. If the Bengals or NFL had the popularity of the MLS, Duke Tobin would be speaking every week to drum up interest in the team. Mike Brown has been living by "less is more" for decades. Will be interesting to see how Katie runs the ship when he's gone.
Joe Burow and Jamar Chase MUST restructure their contracts (when Jamar signs his). Tom Brady used to restructure his contracts many times to afford signing other players. How bad do Joe and Jamar TRULY want to win? If they really want to win, restructure your deals. You can capture that lost revenue in advertising deals.
This team absolutely needs more studs on defense other than Trey,
This tells me that they are not playing PERIOD And now they are really trying to get back to a championship PERIOD😅
They can extend trey....and sign TEE
The Bengals win super bowl 2026
Duke should have been fired . Or hire more ppl for the scout department because yall are not getting it right .
BLACK HELMETS ORANGE STRIPES FIRST GAME 2025
More like Dave nevermintz
I LIKED the orange pants. It’s better than white pants white jersey and white helmet. That looks attrocious
FIRE DOOKIE
Kansas City DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO PERIOD!Keep THER STARTED healing WELL PERIOD!NOW it's time to repeat for the SUPERBOWL😂
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME THAT EFFORT WAS SHAMEFUL
@assamasn BENGALS WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME PERIOD,BENGALS WAS shameful ALL season PERIOD😒