“50 shades of gray” was a best selling movie. SM or BDSM looks fancy in a movie but in reality it is distorted and hurtful? What a double standard! Whoever made BDSM a romantic fantasy in Hollywood should be held responsible for promoting BDSM to the public.
These case is so weird, like there are so many celebrities doing way worst things, but once someone is picked by cancel culture everyone joins to cancel them to not look bad themselves
Wow, I used to absolutely love Dakota Johnson - I’m so grossed out that she stood up for this guy. There are so many women with the same story, so many pictures and videos and text messages and social media messages, and his own damn words admitting some awful, disgusting, violent things. How the hell are people standing up for him after all of that?! He’s admitted to having a problem, he’s admitted to needing help, he’s admitted to doing this stuff under the guise of bdsm. The fact that anyone is STILL willing to take his side and give him the benefit of the doubt because he appears like a “nice guy” just blows my mind. Most psychopaths, serial killers, abusers, etc., are considered “nice people”. That’s why and how they are able to get victims. This is nothing new. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, the "I like him, so he can't be capable of this" defense--there's no logic to it but a lot of people, when you boil down their arguments, are essentially saying just this. They can't believe they would like anyone capable of monstrous acts so they just deny that it's possible despite the evidence.
I believe fully that every repeat every woman man and child should be heard and listened to . This being said... they should not be believed without any investigation.
What is suspicious to me is why everyone piles onto a person after he or she is accused of something rightly or wrongly, that person is then tried and found guilty on social media, sometimes it seems like cancel culture, recently I was watching a UA-cam video in which the youtuber stated that Diana Ross had groomed MJ as a child, almost all of the comments towards Ms.Ross were negative and I was left wondering if his parents would've stood by and allowed that to happen and how did she get away with it? if this gains traction will she be cancelled as well?
You are aware of how awful MJs parents were, aren’t you? His father was super abusive as well as using his children to make money and his mother did little about it (Joe was violent and manipulative), Michael was the one who said these things, as well as Latoya accused Joe of molesting her and another sister, you can look it up. Point is, even if Diana had groomed him (I have no idea if she did or not) I highly doubt his parents would have done anything about it considering they were doing far worse to him than Diana even if she had groomed him.
Interesting about the timing of how “things happened” why all these women didn’t come forward before he got popular.. he’s being in the film industry for more than ten years but now when he was being very successful now all these woman appear? 🤔
It is not interesting, it is relevant because he will use his popularity to lure more unsuspecting women into his trap and then gaslight them. Clearly, you are not a woman or you would not have written such a wretched comment.
It is crazy to me that there are still celebrities very active in their careers and still getting work that have done worse than Armie. I don't believe anything Effie has said about him. I believe she is a lover scorned, and when he decided he wanted to end their relationship, she decided to destroy him. He's been unfaithful and he's a guy that has some weird kinks but there are a lot of people that have far worse kinks, and as far as we know, he has not physically hurt anybody. There's been no proof of any of this, and I believe if Effie was hurt as badly as she claims, she would've obtained evidence of it. I don't believe Armie has raped anybody or hurt anybody on purpose. Some women lie about things like rape and abuse as evidenced in situations in my own family. My uncle went to prison and missed both of his parents dying and wasn't allowed to go to their funerals because a woman claimed he raped her and abused her, then admitted 7 years later that he didn't. Do you think there were consequences for her? No. I will never forget how her lies affected his life, and I will never #believeallwomen.
I am 100% agreed with what you said about Effie. She just a scorned lover and Armie is a big fished for her social media. Now a woman who file for abuse through encouragement from Effie on her Instagram account who she filed in New York has now been dismissed.
sickens me to see all these famous people sitting on their priviledged arses condemning victims rather than the obvious abuser. his actions never effected their lives once, speaking as if they are in any way authoritative over the matter.
I don't know much about cannibalism, but when I was playing 'Age of Conan,' I recall being particularly aware that I needed to be at level 17+, for this certain stretch of island, so the 'Picts,' who are cannibals, didn't kill us. You know? You don't want to die to some freaking cannibal. So. I would imagine that anyone, who is into cannibalism as this fantasy, wants some sort of belief to become REAL. It basically has to do with 'shortcomings.' And. I think Hammer is part pleased at what these women are saying about him, and that he has more money than most people can imagine, STILL, in 2022. People, who nickle and dime others, are trying to work themselves up to some sort of 'off limits' behavior.' This guy is not someone you get a 'core' understanding of. He's all over the place and is kinda like 'Godrick the Grafted' in 'Elden Ring.' Godrick 'grafts' parts of his enemies on to his monster body. Army Hammer does that with his messed up brain.
If these women are so traumatized, why did they wait years to come forward?? The 1st time I saw texts like that, I’d be gone, unless of course I was into what he was saying…
When relationship is over after 4 years and just she spoke and broadcast to her social media about abuse. One of the friend of Effie who friend for abuse in New York had just dismissed as she did not show up for hearing.
Just because people say "nice shoes, nice purse, great hair" doesn't mean they actually mean it. There's no proof Armie did anything he teased about. He doesn't even have his family's fortune to pay off any cops.
It's really hard to defend him too much at this point. When everything first came out, I was pretty much in the middle. I figured whatever goes on in the bedroom and is consensual (I am not talking about the cannibalism part) and is agreed upon, whatever. What came out in the House of Hammer documentary on Discovery + really shed light on a generational problem of extreme violence, sexual deviancy, compulsive lying and manipulation, and general lack of moral compass. I would say genetics and environment never gave Armie a chance to be normal. The problem is compounded by some dismissing it as BDSM. He has perverted BDSM, if you will. He is trying to hiding behind that veil, but BDSM is all about safe, sane, and consensual behavior. His was not. All the signs were there throughout his life, even from childhood, but no one sounded the alarm or did anything about him or his father, his grandfather, or great grandfather. That family is a sick mess. It is a shame. I am not sure there is help for him - I am not sure his compulsions and obsessions can be quelled, even with therapy, medication, and modification. If it is a true frontal lobe abnormality, it is unlikely to be controlled. He is escalating with each situation. He is just an inch of an ID channel special away.
He simply has kinks that are now public. His wife was aware of his proclivities. The only question is did he ever really take his "play time" too far with any of his affairs?? That we'll never know.
So Dakota, the star of 50 Shades of Grey sided with him and condemned cancel culture... and no one is talking about how he is quite literally a real life Christian Grey??
The guy is just naive to let all his weirdest, kinkiest thoughts to be conveyed like this. He said things and got it trouble. .that's all. I don't think he has done it in real . I hope he finds a way to explain the world that those were just conversations.
I feel like this another case similar to Depp vs. Heard. If LAPD is already closing this case then why would you still believe those allegations? a lot of people are willing to do basically anything for money these days.
Cancel culture is the stupidest thing in the world anyone can say anything and accuse anyone of whatever … even if what he wrote was true it was words not acted upon I hope all these ppl cancelling others get what’s coming to them
I loved him in Call Me By Your Name. I was ready to watch more. Not just him but these successful actors and directors cross a line that shouldn’t be crossed especially if they want a career. They are not owed adoration and forgiveness by anyone. If they can’t afford the fall out then they need to not do this. Chris Noth, Woody Allen, Kevin Spacey… all favorites that I don’t watch anymore because of this stuff. There needs to be neutering for successful men driven out of control by testosterone.
Kevin Spacey is back in your good books. Those accusations *were* false. As proven in court. One my favourite actors, deeply relieved for him, but he’s whole life has been torched.
He seemed to have wanted to be a decent human being. But his damage caused him to self destruct. Its been reported,albeit sparingly, that it was a smear campaign to ruin him. If this is all true, i want him to be healthy,happy and whole. Some people deserve a second chance. Not all, but some. Plus that Effie chic seemed like a psycho. He has a bad chic picker.
Why are you not reporting on the fact, that Effi, who accused him of rape, refused to sign an affidavit for her allegations against him and that her lawyer, Gloria Allred, dropped her as a client because of her refusal to do so! Further why didn't you report on the fact that there exist screenshots of text messages from Effie, where she writes, that he never raped her and that he was such a great daddy etc.? Why are y'all so lazy these days? His career and reputation is ruinied and the least you can do, is to report correctly and set the record straight after y'all dragged him through the mud!
Whatever he does I still love his movies I watched his movie Rebecca. It was beautiful. I think the women need to own up to they weren't forced they were all adults
if these women were gaining something out of this, I haven’t heard of any profit his accusers have gained from their accusations (of course I also don’t pay too close attention to celebrities lives), I would less likely to believe it, but between multiple accusations, texts, his actions regarding the accusations, etc etc it seems likely he’s probably guilty of some odd behavior at a minimum. I mean, when there is that much evidence, you can’t just say “there’s nothing to these accusations, he’s completely innocent”. I also wonder why anyone would defend him unless they were his family or closest friends, you know? Imagine defending someone who rapes and abuses women because he seems like a nice guy on set, his defenders would be almost as guilty as he is, I think I’d just stay the hell away from him in general until it was proven he wasn’t a monster
Im a beekeeper in minnosota. I trap 7 Monarch Butterflies in a jar. I then place jar in the middle of the Beehive. It then is a joy for me to watch the bees frenzied Sting the Butterflies til they Disintegrate. IT creates some of the best tasting Honey I have ever produced!!!
I Simply do not believe those women it sounds too convenient why did they not say anything far far sooner and don't give me that 'Every woman deserves to be believed" no they should not( amber heard anyone) women did not like her . weather you stick up for people is simply down to if the world and other women like her or her. judge jury and executioner no one but the people involved should be in that position.
What do you think should happen to the rest of Armie Hammer's career?
Right now he doesn’t have a career
@@dezerismith7529 ...And he probably never will
Over
I hope he makes a comeback, he’s an excellent actor , better than any newcomer. I’m rooting for him to comeback better and more grounded
Flush it.
"The House of Hammer" is crazy!!! It shows you that appearances are deceiving. He's an example of generational trauma. Props to his aunt being honest.
“50 shades of gray” was a best selling movie. SM or BDSM looks fancy in a movie but in reality it is distorted and hurtful? What a double standard! Whoever made BDSM a romantic fantasy in Hollywood should be held responsible for promoting BDSM to the public.
It's sad when you lose a job to Miles Teller of all people.
LOL
These case is so weird, like there are so many celebrities doing way worst things, but once someone is picked by cancel culture everyone joins to cancel them to not look bad themselves
Fantasies of cannibalism and torture are typical of celebrities?
all those words but nary a substance
Wow, I used to absolutely love Dakota Johnson - I’m so grossed out that she stood up for this guy. There are so many women with the same story, so many pictures and videos and text messages and social media messages, and his own damn words admitting some awful, disgusting, violent things. How the hell are people standing up for him after all of that?! He’s admitted to having a problem, he’s admitted to needing help, he’s admitted to doing this stuff under the guise of bdsm. The fact that anyone is STILL willing to take his side and give him the benefit of the doubt because he appears like a “nice guy” just blows my mind. Most psychopaths, serial killers, abusers, etc., are considered “nice people”. That’s why and how they are able to get victims. This is nothing new. Jesus Christ.
Yeah, the "I like him, so he can't be capable of this" defense--there's no logic to it but a lot of people, when you boil down their arguments, are essentially saying just this. They can't believe they would like anyone capable of monstrous acts so they just deny that it's possible despite the evidence.
Didn't 'Wounds' wrap up before the serious accusations in 2021?
I believe fully that every repeat every woman man and child should be heard and listened to . This being said... they should not be believed without any investigation.
That's stupid i will always believe the child first.
They have plenty of information watch the damn documentary
The whole family is sick
And they got away with sooo much.
@@brelathan3274 What child was involved?
This is the first time I don't think the accused did anything wrong
What is suspicious to me is why everyone piles onto a person after he or she is accused of something rightly or wrongly, that person is then tried and found guilty on social media, sometimes it seems like cancel culture, recently I was watching a UA-cam video in which the youtuber stated that Diana Ross had groomed MJ as a child, almost all of the comments towards Ms.Ross were negative and I was left wondering if his parents would've stood by and allowed that to happen and how did she get away with it? if this gains traction will she be cancelled as well?
You are aware of how awful MJs parents were, aren’t you? His father was super abusive as well as using his children to make money and his mother did little about it (Joe was violent and manipulative), Michael was the one who said these things, as well as Latoya accused Joe of molesting her and another sister, you can look it up. Point is, even if Diana had groomed him (I have no idea if she did or not) I highly doubt his parents would have done anything about it considering they were doing far worse to him than Diana even if she had groomed him.
Interesting about the timing of how “things happened” why all these women didn’t come forward before he got popular.. he’s being in the film industry for more than ten years but now when he was being very successful now all these woman appear? 🤔
It is not interesting, it is relevant because he will use his popularity to lure more unsuspecting women into his trap and then gaslight them. Clearly, you are not a woman or you would not have written such a wretched comment.
It is crazy to me that there are still celebrities very active in their careers and still getting work that have done worse than Armie. I don't believe anything Effie has said about him. I believe she is a lover scorned, and when he decided he wanted to end their relationship, she decided to destroy him. He's been unfaithful and he's a guy that has some weird kinks but there are a lot of people that have far worse kinks, and as far as we know, he has not physically hurt anybody. There's been no proof of any of this, and I believe if Effie was hurt as badly as she claims, she would've obtained evidence of it. I don't believe Armie has raped anybody or hurt anybody on purpose. Some women lie about things like rape and abuse as evidenced in situations in my own family. My uncle went to prison and missed both of his parents dying and wasn't allowed to go to their funerals because a woman claimed he raped her and abused her, then admitted 7 years later that he didn't. Do you think there were consequences for her? No. I will never forget how her lies affected his life, and I will never #believeallwomen.
I am 100% agreed with what you said about Effie. She just a scorned lover and Armie is a big fished for her social media. Now a woman who file for abuse through encouragement from Effie on her Instagram account who she filed in New York has now been dismissed.
How would his mom know if any of this was true? Was she there while he was getting it on with those women? 🙄
Saying I'm a cannibal is so cringe but it doesn't make you a real cannibal
sickens me to see all these famous people sitting on their priviledged arses condemning victims rather than the obvious abuser. his actions never effected their lives once, speaking as if they are in any way authoritative over the matter.
I don't know much about cannibalism, but when I was playing 'Age of Conan,' I recall being particularly aware that I needed to be at level 17+, for this certain stretch of island, so the 'Picts,' who are cannibals, didn't kill us. You know? You don't want to die to some freaking cannibal. So. I would imagine that anyone, who is into cannibalism as this fantasy, wants some sort of belief to become REAL. It basically has to do with 'shortcomings.' And. I think Hammer is part pleased at what these women are saying about him, and that he has more money than most people can imagine, STILL, in 2022. People, who nickle and dime others, are trying to work themselves up to some sort of 'off limits' behavior.' This guy is not someone you get a 'core' understanding of. He's all over the place and is kinda like 'Godrick the Grafted' in 'Elden Ring.' Godrick 'grafts' parts of his enemies on to his monster body. Army Hammer does that with his messed up brain.
🤔 Who remembers when he was on #GossipGirl and played a “love interest” for Serena ( Blake Lively’s character on that show? ) ?⁉️
If these women are so traumatized, why did they wait years to come forward?? The 1st time I saw texts like that, I’d be gone, unless of course I was into what he was saying…
A sick thing can be done or said to you but it will take years for you to even find the mental capacity to tell anyone. I know this from experience!
@@bibibello2181 same
Because people like you wouldn’t believe them
A classic story of an upcoming star being trapped and canceled. Some of the words and texts are really bizarre.
When relationship is over after 4 years and just she spoke and broadcast to her social media about abuse. One of the friend of Effie who friend for abuse in New York had just dismissed as she did not show up for hearing.
What shocks me is how and when did he get so famous that he would be in all those up coming films 🤔🙄 never heard of him until this creepy business.
He's the heir of a big fortune, ever heard of the brand arm and hammer? Yes
Just because people say "nice shoes, nice purse, great hair" doesn't mean they actually mean it.
There's no proof Armie did anything he teased about. He doesn't even have his family's fortune to pay off any cops.
"why do we live in an age where benefit of the doubt is given to perpetrator instead of victims"
Regardless of what he did or did not do, I’m glad he got help and hope he can do better.
No wonder he’s like he is look at his family. They all have problems.
It's really hard to defend him too much at this point. When everything first came out, I was pretty much in the middle. I figured whatever goes on in the bedroom and is consensual (I am not talking about the cannibalism part) and is agreed upon, whatever. What came out in the House of Hammer documentary on Discovery + really shed light on a generational problem of extreme violence, sexual deviancy, compulsive lying and manipulation, and general lack of moral compass. I would say genetics and environment never gave Armie a chance to be normal. The problem is compounded by some dismissing it as BDSM. He has perverted BDSM, if you will. He is trying to hiding behind that veil, but BDSM is all about safe, sane, and consensual behavior. His was not. All the signs were there throughout his life, even from childhood, but no one sounded the alarm or did anything about him or his father, his grandfather, or great grandfather. That family is a sick mess. It is a shame. I am not sure there is help for him - I am not sure his compulsions and obsessions can be quelled, even with therapy, medication, and modification. If it is a true frontal lobe abnormality, it is unlikely to be controlled. He is escalating with each situation. He is just an inch of an ID channel special away.
Not a word is said about the fact that his wife Liz was the client for all the lies and intrigues.
He simply has kinks that are now public.
His wife was aware of his proclivities.
The only question is did he ever really take his "play time" too far with any of his affairs??
That we'll never know.
Sexual assault isn't a kink
You didn't say anything g about what your title is. Where he is now. You just repeated what we have all heard.
He is very talented and reached a variety of audience, just hope he finds the help he needs to break a cycle.❤️
A district attorney *_could not_* find enough evidence to charge him with a crime.
But I do think his ex-wife is probably right🧠
"Not enough of an air-tight case" translation. His family paid off the cops the same way they've always done.
So Dakota, the star of 50 Shades of Grey sided with him and condemned cancel culture... and no one is talking about how he is quite literally a real life Christian Grey??
I hope he comes back on screen.... and stops trying to eat people have a burger instead
The guy is just naive to let all his weirdest, kinkiest thoughts to be conveyed like this. He said things and got it trouble. .that's all. I don't think he has done it in real . I hope he finds a way to explain the world that those were just conversations.
Oh how naive u are.
He’s a creep
Armie tarnished his own reputation.
No one else did this to him.
The moral of the story is don't DM. It never goes away,
He was cast to play Batman once
Armie did not get cancelled, he got "consequenced"
This man is so sick minded and it's a shame. I really think he could've had a long and successful career. SUCH A WEIRDO!!!!!!!
He is SICK‼️
Creepy
I feel like this another case similar to Depp vs. Heard. If LAPD is already closing this case then why would you still believe those allegations? a lot of people are willing to do basically anything for money these days.
Cancel culture is the stupidest thing in the world anyone can say anything and accuse anyone of whatever … even if what he wrote was true it was words not acted upon I hope all these ppl cancelling others get what’s coming to them
Yes..we should introduce Suspension Culture.. that way no innocent is harmed in the levelling of accusations.
I wouldn't cancel him so soon
Is he the new Dahmer???
I hope he gets back to movies soon.
he should be in Bones and All
Effie,Courtney,Julia and who else
I loved him in Call Me By Your Name. I was ready to watch more. Not just him but these successful actors and directors cross a line that shouldn’t be crossed especially if they want a career. They are not owed adoration and forgiveness by anyone. If they can’t afford the fall out then they need to not do this. Chris Noth, Woody Allen, Kevin Spacey… all favorites that I don’t watch anymore because of this stuff. There needs to be neutering for successful men driven out of control by testosterone.
Kevin Spacey is back in your good books. Those accusations *were* false. As proven in court. One my favourite actors, deeply relieved for him, but he’s whole life has been torched.
He seemed to have wanted to be a decent human being. But his damage caused him to self destruct. Its been reported,albeit sparingly, that it was a smear campaign to ruin him. If this is all true, i want him to be healthy,happy and whole. Some people deserve a second chance. Not all, but some. Plus that Effie chic seemed like a psycho. He has a bad chic picker.
This is crazy
This cancel culture BS really needs to stop…
I hope Armie Hammer is doing well.
Ew
I don’t hope rapists do well.
Funny I have heard all this crap before, he needs help
Why are you not reporting on the fact, that Effi, who accused him of rape, refused to sign an affidavit for her allegations against him and that her lawyer, Gloria Allred, dropped her as a client because of her refusal to do so! Further why didn't you report on the fact that there exist screenshots of text messages from Effie, where she writes, that he never raped her and that he was such a great daddy etc.? Why are y'all so lazy these days? His career and reputation is ruinied and the least you can do, is to report correctly and set the record straight after y'all dragged him through the mud!
Whatever he does I still love his movies I watched his movie Rebecca. It was beautiful. I think the women need to own up to they weren't forced they were all adults
Don't believe everything you hear. Human beings can be like a pack of wolves.
He's never going to change, better get a 9 to 5 job!!!!!!
I'm all for believing the victims, but dms can so easily be faked (not saying these are, but is such a weird "proof")
if these women were gaining something out of this, I haven’t heard of any profit his accusers have gained from their accusations (of course I also don’t pay too close attention to celebrities lives), I would less likely to believe it, but between multiple accusations, texts, his actions regarding the accusations, etc etc it seems likely he’s probably guilty of some odd behavior at a minimum. I mean, when there is that much evidence, you can’t just say “there’s nothing to these accusations, he’s completely innocent”. I also wonder why anyone would defend him unless they were his family or closest friends, you know? Imagine defending someone who rapes and abuses women because he seems like a nice guy on set, his defenders would be almost as guilty as he is, I think I’d just stay the hell away from him in general until it was proven he wasn’t a monster
Can he eat AH so she goes away
Joshua tree
army hammer
Im a beekeeper in minnosota. I trap 7 Monarch Butterflies in a jar. I then place jar in the middle of the Beehive. It then is a joy for me to watch the bees frenzied Sting the Butterflies til they Disintegrate. IT creates some of the best tasting Honey I have ever produced!!!
Thank God I use local honey from Florida. You're SICK!
You have issues! Your sick
I wonder how you would feel if you were that butterfly? Would you still see it the same way?
Cool, no one cares about your life though.
That could be illegal. They are back on the endangered species list.
I Simply do not believe those women it sounds too convenient why did they not say anything far far sooner and don't give me that 'Every woman deserves to be believed" no they should not( amber heard anyone) women did not like her .
weather you stick up for people is simply down to if the world and other women like her or her. judge jury and executioner no one but the people involved should be in that position.