The Airbus A-380 wouldn't have been a failure if the engineers who designed it had used skillshare, squarespace, audible, curiositystream and the great courses plus.
Clearly, their perceived failure is due to the wrong mindset and could be fixed via quantic development with my special coach tretament via holy stones. I might also interest you into a special jar to recharge the stones and piece of real state in Florida where you can let your true potential come through. If you need money, I can point you to an investment fund that specializes in startups whose work ethics is defined by bold enterprises such as buying the Brooklyn Bridge and Eifell Tower.
You know, the saddest part of this is that one day people will find this plane right next to the Concorde in a museum. And just like the Concorde, people will wonder what it was like to fly in such an engineering marvel.
@@tiffanyb634 always wanted to do this. maybe one day when funds permit. tbh would like to try this with both. ( 747 and airbus a380) im a boeing guy, but i do like the 380
It was a triumph, not a failure. It became a failure due to unforeseen circumstances. I enjoyed every flight on these planes I had. There is nothing else that compares!
I'm not sure if it was an economic failure though. Sure, viewed within its own self-contained bubble, it's difficult to argue with the fact that the A380 cost Airbus more than it brought in, but that's not the whole picture. Now that Airbus is the largest commercial aircraft manufacturer in the world (partly thanks to Boeing's recent propensity to shoot itself in the foot, but Airbus was set to overtake Boeing anyway), it's difficult to remember this, but prior to the launch of the A380, Airbus was seen by most of the world as a manufacturer of superb narrowbodies, but very much playing second fiddle to Boeing in the widebody market. The A380 changed that overnight. Yes, Airbus built a plane that ultimately cost more money than it made in sales, but as a marketing exercise, it was beyond succesful, and I do believe that what Airbus continues to gain in A220, A320neo, A330neo and A350 orders is in no small part thanks to what the A380 did for Airbus' reputation.
@@77l96 please size isn't everything. The systems and material sciences that went into the A380 are multiple times more complicated and sophisticated than whatever went into the Antov. For example the dynamic flow of fuel to control wing bending in different flight phases helps optimise structural wing weight and is a system that isn't in any other Boeing or Airbus in service. The point is for an armchair warrior that looks at things superficially you just won't understand the thousands of innovations that made this plane and every other modern plane made after the A380 much more efficient than the previous generation.
@@77l96 A350 has many evolved technologies that were first introduced on the A380. No doubt the A350 is a much more efficient machine, due in part benefiting from lessons learnt but also the fact that the A380 was designed not to be at its current size but optimized to be at the stretched size with a longer fuselage. However in the current climate the stretched A380 would of made even less economic sense for airlines, as flying empty A320s is bad enough...
give A380 to ryanair ... they will pack 2000 passanger , shopping mall & a restaurent to sell us all the food and still make profit this airline and CEO are crazy ;)
@@evacyou8812 @Captain Vojta i have money and i did use ryanair multiple of times. it was ok... iam imagining if they get an A380 what they might do with it. so no need for SMH if someone has different opinion
I remember flying with Emirates airline A380. I have never seen anything like that in my life. Even in economy class i felt way more comfortable than anyother commercial aircraft.
Shikhar Srivastava I thought this was the same across any Emirates aircraft though. I flew on a 777 and it was basically the same as my experience on an A380, except for the planes being different sizes
@@lawriem7747 My route Saigon to London with Emirates uses the 777 SGN to Dubai and the A380 onwards to London or Birmingham. I fly business class just to eat away what I'll leave as an inheritance. Much prefer a A380 seating as the bed is truly lay flat, the 777 is more coffin like and in the window seat you have to squeeze pass the isle seat passenger. Now if they changed the seating layout to the same as the A380 it would fund favour with me. On the A380 if you don't won't to eat at your seat there's the bar area to have a drink and chat, even eat a snack meal at a proper table.
I am so lucky to have flown on both the 747 and the A380. Both are amazing planes. I was just so thoroughly impressed by the A380. It was probably the nicest plane I have ever flown on. I also loved the 747.
We are a family of 4 and yes only the A380 and 747 have 4 seats in the middle, and we love to sit together. They are also the most comfortable planes we have ever flown.
@@sundar999 I've flown on an A380 from JFK to Paris Paris Charles De Gaulle on Airfrance, the first time I flew that same route to was on a 777 same airline I felt some turbulence but it was mostly a smooth ride. When we left New York it was raining pretty hard but they allowed flights out of there I barely felt anything considering the weather that day but turbulence is higher up but my point is that it was the same route but still no turbulence.
they said it's because people loved it. the other airline that has no news of phasing it out is china southern... they're backed by government anyway so the huge operating cost is barely a problem to them
Most comfortable plane I have ever entered in my life! You barely notice or hear the engine when rocketing down the runway! It's just simply the best flying experience in the sky as a passenger!
First time I fly with Emirates A380 I didn't realize at all that the airplane has landed in Manchester Airport until I see the plane running on the runway. Unbelievable.
The Emirates woke up and saw that the excesses were catching up to the world. Excessive credit with NO backing. No gold, no silver, no checks and balances. China, Russia, even TURKEY have been buying TONS of gold for when the fiat currency system collapses. Turkey you say. Who are they? THEY are the former Ottoman Empire. Never heard of it I'll bet. Look it up, surpasses the much touted ROMAN empire by a large measure. The Turks know their history but few know the genocide BY THEM of the Armenian GENOCIDE. Move over Jews, you weren't the ONLY, so called Holocaust. www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/armenian-genocide
I used to be a regular international traveller, the A380 was a very comfortable and quiet plane to fly in and all round a pleasure, if you were lucky enough to fly business class it was really nice, a way better plane to fly in than any of the Boeing planes around at the time, then again the A380 was still a fairly new plane design and the Boeing were all older designs, a big shame that it is no longer being made, RIP.
I’ve flown Singapore Airlines and British Airways A380’s, top and main floors. The engines are either amazingly quiet, or the cabin insulation is very good.
@@johnscanlan9335 it will depend upon each airline and their own configuration. On Singapore, the top was Business & Premium Economy/Economy. Main floor was Economy, Premium, and First Class mini-suites. I remember flying BA economy on the main floor.
@@johnscanlan9335 I've been on Singapore Airlines and Qantas's A380 Upper deck Economy. The main difference between lower deck economy is the seating arrangement. Usually the lower deck would be in 3-4-3, while the upper deck would be 2-4-2. So it has slightly wider seats, and if you sit besides the window, you'd get extra storage compartment as well just under the window. Besides seat, you'd also get a quicker boarding/de-boarding as well as you don't have to queue behind hundreds of people in economy, just a few in business and maybe first.
@@ferdykurniawan9857 that's exactly how it was on my second ever flight from LHR to HKG (the first being the "spoke" flight). I didn't even know anything about planes or seating, but I got an upper deck economy window seat. had it gone differently, I probably wouldn't still be in love with flying :)
Flew the a380 on emirates both ways Toronto-Dubai just a week ago - never been on a plane so quiet. Even the turbulence was so muted. And legroom was pretty darn good even for economy, so emirates did a good job with their seating arrangement order!
As an Aussie who flew Sydney to Dallas, at the time the longest route, it was the nicest long haul flight I have ever had (in economy as always). A Plane for the people :-) . What struck me was how quiet it was.
G. Bubbly Brown “reliable as boeing” meaning the manufacturer can’t be asked to fix the thing properly when a part breaks, willingly sending an entire aircraft of passengers to the deaths? On multiple occasions? Including what is considered the single worst air crash, in which a Japanese airline’s 747 lost its tail and killed over 500 people, because Boeing’s employees refused to properly repair a heavily damaged internal part at the base of the tail fin. The A380 is not a ‘failure’. It just arrived behind its time. The safety, comfort, quietness, care put into keeping the damn thing working properly, and capacity - as well as looking much better than any competition - make the A380 an incredible aircraft and (yes, I am somewhat against the 747) a SIGNIFICANTLY superior aircraft to other double-decker commercial airplanes.
Flew on an A380 on route from LAX to SYD. I could definitely tell the difference and it was indeed a luxury aircraft! It's a shame they're discontinuing from a passenger standpoint.
They won’t have done well but compared to other planes I reckon A380 might have don’t better because more people can get on although I guess it would make it extremely in efficient compared to other planes because the A380 solely relies on capacity
@@zenokada2278 Even at full capacity, the A380 is less efficient per-seat-km than the B777, B787 an A350. The A380's only real advantage in commercial air can only be leveraged in circumstances where: 1. The airports are large enough (both runway and terminal) to handle it. 2. The airports are too busy to handle additional flight traffic. -- For almost all airports around the world, it's generally a better option to increase PAX capacity by just flying more often, using your B777s or A350s. 3. The passenger travel demand between the airports is high enough to warrant an increase in capacity.
@@AaronCMounts in the not-so-distant future cities like Lagos and Kinshasa which are growing at an insane rate might need even bigger planes than A380... Look at how "well" Delhi and Mumbai are already handling congestion and then imagine that amount of traffic in corrupt dictatorships like there
I think this aircraft would have been a huge success if they had simply added a 3rd level to it with a selection of bars, restaurants and duty free shops.
I flew on an A380 from LAX to Bankok, Thailand. I honestly didn't even know I was on a plane based upon how smooth that long-ass flight was. Too bad that it's such a nightmare for airports to handle, coupled with the incredible costs to fly the pig. It's a gorgeous aircraft; certainly my favorite after perhaps the 747. Those two beauties always amaze me!! Thanks for the info!
@@AdamLeuer i know it is, although it hurts me inside, i like seeing how many likes i can get, its just so interesting to see how much i can manipulate people with bad jokes
I worked at sydney international airport in the early 2000s and remember how much room and infrastructure this plane needed. I am not surprised that became a real issue.
ufthansa has announced it's bringing its A380s back in 2023. There are several reasons why airlines are circling back to the superjumbo. "There's a lack of wide-body capacity, as some operators such as British Airways retired older airplanes like the Boeing 747
Lots of people fly in business or 1st class, but for economy it's not a problem to board from the plane into a bus, or go on foot to the terminal. Not sure about the hangars and other maintenance.
@@stone5048 Ive flown long haul London-Bangkok in the A380 4 times and is it by far the most comfortable plane around, and Ive flown in most commercial jets.
Mohamed darwish YES, as said it is a LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE , When EMERATES cancelled its order,,,then,it was doomed< SINGAPORE AIR returned 2 to its leasing company, DO YOU KNOW WHAT Happened? They weweSCRAPPED, as there is ZERO MARKET FOR THEM. None ever flew full, so AIRLINES ARE LOSING MONEY , ITS A FLYING WHITE ELEPHANT. CHEERS FROM NJ USA. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@flip inheck Yanks still are taught in school that two bicycle repair men invented the aeroplane. I am not kidding. I have a history book that is used in their schools and it states Wilber Wright and Orval Right invented the aeroplane and heavier than air flight. Then again, that same book states Thomas Edison, the infamous patent thief, invented the incandescent light bulb. Wow! Indoctrination and propaganda are taught as fact there.
@@indridcold8433 They sure didnt invent the airplane, but were first in powered heavier than air flight..thats what we are taught. They invented flying..so say the French when they showed up in France in 1908 with patents secured, making turns snd wuick altitude changes ehike Europeans barely could fly in a strait line..after discovering Lilianthals wing warping figures were Wrong.
I have flown on the A380 many times to and from Australia via LAX on QANTAS, from Dubai to Perth on Emirates and to London on British. I’ve had the luxury of sitting in Business, First and Economy. Even in economy I was impressed with the plane, but even more, I was impressed with the service.
I flew twice in the a380 and it was amazing. It was the quietest and most comfortable airplane i have ever flown. The only "negative" thing was that on the second flight the landing gear was frozen or something and extended with a loud bang that shook the entire airplane.
The infamous DC-10 is actually more safe than the Boeing 737 Max - series. I am glad Boeing's cost cutting, parts outsourcing, shortcut taking, cheap engineer hiring, Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg was fired. It was a long time coming. The early Boeing 777s should have prompted his firing then.
actually the 737 max 8 without mcas itself is safe, the mcas was made to make the plane feel like an NG. obviously the engine will create a moment force, forcing the plane to pitch up, however this can be fixed with a new type rating for pilots (new training module). MCAS wasn't really needed, it was just so it was cheaper for airlines to train pilots to the next model.
The a380 is hardly a failure, as of 2022 Emirates are currently buying up any spare a380 they can get hold of and rumours are believed to be on going between Emirates and Airbus to restart production . It's a fabulous plane and quiet.
@@EngineeringNS The same could be said about your parents, they would have been better off if they had never made you and that is very true. Airbus may have lost money but they gained a strong following and have gained from the technology put into the A 380.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Parents don't have children to make money, they have children for instinctive and emotional reasons, so a completely ridiculouis analogy.
@@adamlea6339 You didn't get his point. And I also have to inform you that you are partially wrong there. Many parents get kids these days to show off with them, nothing else. "Look at us! We have a child, and we gonna make bigger birthday parties for him then you do for your child! And we give the guests of our child nicer and more awesome presents then you do!"
Airbus' big mistake was the timing of the A380's introduction. They were too late for the original jumbo jet era, and thus the plane is too costly for most airlines to operate. If they had waited 20 or so more years, it's possible jumbo jets could come back with bigger infrastructures and more people to move. It's an absolutely beautiful aircraft, but it was made at the wrong time. It reminds me of the Ford Edsel in a way.
Agree. I might see some potential though in a scenario where highly frequented cities can't build up capacity (or not in attractive distance to the destination anyway) so that landing slots at those desired destinations will become so tight it warrants bigger plans again.
Another downside to the plane, is that once it's retired from passenger duty, it's pretty much scrap. That's the big plus to the 747, in that it can be converted to a freighter. I'm a little surprised Airbus didn't design for that.
@@tangydiesel1886 Good point. They really should have. There IS a market for large commercial cargo planes these days. The 747-8 is having great success in that role.
I am an Australian, living in Poland for the past 12 years and (before Covid-19) making two visits to Sydney each year. In the first 4 years while I had a lot of Frequent Flyer points, I was flying Warsaw to London to Singapore and finishing in Sydney. The plane to London was smaller than a 747, then the flight London to Sydney was on a 747. It would be something like 5 hours (minimum) traveling from Warsaw when the 747 would be almost flying over Warsaw on the way to Singapore. Since the FF points ran out, I now fly Emirates from Warsaw to Dubai to Sydney with a 3-4 hours stopover in Dubai. The 15-hour leg from Dubai to Sydney is on an A-380 and it is the most comfortable plane I have ever traveled on (being 2metres tall). My biggest criticism of this documentary is that I have NOT ONCE been on an A-380 flight which has not been 100% full - and I have always flown outside the holiday season. One last thing: As I said I am an Australian, but the service on Emirates flights outclasses that on every QANTAS and British Airways flights I have ever made (and includes those flights made in the 20 years before living in Europe).
I detected a fair amount of bias by the commentator, particularly the part where he mentions that Boeing seemed to get it right. Well, let’s not sing Boeing’s praises too much. Anyone heard a out the 737-Maxx?
I’ve had my fair share of flights with this beauty. London-Abu Dhabi London-Hong Kong London-Dubai London-Singapore New York-Dubai New York-Singapore New York-London New York-Doha Los Angeles-Sydney Los Angeles-Seoul Nothing comes close to the sheer pleasure and comfort of the A380. I was sincerely heartbroken when I received the news of the A380s death. But, it’s comforting to know that airlines will still use this masterpiece for some years to come. So people can have chance to experience the marvelousness of this aircraft. I’ve flown First Class/Business Class on all my flights with the A380. Experiences that I will never ever forget. I’m grateful for everything.
Rode the Emirates A380 from Toronto to Dubai. I remember it taking off and the sheer weight and mass of the plane lifting off the runway is something I’ll never forget. An amazing experience. The most comfortable flight I’ve ever been on.
As I understand it, it's also the lack of cargo capacity (for it's size) that's a huge issue. Airlines make a substantial amount of their profit from freight.
I flew in an A380 for my first time in end of 2019 from Germany to SF. I just remember being astounded at how gigantic that thing is. My first thought was how difficult it must be to maneuver at airports.
It cost 25 Billion euros to develop and will never ever come close to paying for itself. That alone makes it a failure. It only lasted a dozen years or so. It is expensive to buy, inefficient to operate unless totally full and it's hard to totally fill. It is expensive and tricky to maintain. Few airports can handle it. And because of these things, there is virtually no 2nd hand market for it. Nobody but Emirates wants it and even they cut their orders way back. It's a wonder it lasted as long as it did. So no, the aircraft, while impressive in some ways, is a failure, but as you said, so is the business model Airbus developed that gave birth to the A380.
@@DaveMiller2 Yes..all your points are noted and correct. I was actually speaking about the aircraft itself....mechanically and aerodynamics. I thought many years ago about the maintenance costs and the ability of Airbus to keep the seats full. That is a tall order. Reminds me of the Concorde. I watched a documentary on what it took to bring the 380 to fruition...a mammoth undertaking no doubt. Sometimes men's dreams are over-matched by sheer realities.
FSAUDIOGUY Which means it wasn’t a success... Sure it’s an impressive piece of technology but if it’s not financially viable then the piece of technology fails. It’s not just about making a ‘cool plane’, if that was the case we’d see a lot more aircrafts like this. It’s a real shame but it’s a failure.
i remember flying on an A380 in northern hemisphere autumn and the plane was pretty full from memory, although that was 2009, it was brisbane australia to heathrow stopping at singapore.
I had last year an afternoon flight Dubai - Amsterdam only 78 passengers on board of the A380! No wonder Emirates is reducing its A380 fleet. Only on high capacity routes its suited. The A380 is a niche aircraft.
I flew the a380 from Boston to dubai and the sheer size and comfortable economy class amazed me There was amazing customer service(Emirates airlines) and there was lots of space Sad to see it go:(
It’s a real shame. Whenever I book my flight tickets for long haul flights I always make sure that I’m flying on the A-380 as I find it so difficult to stretch out & have leg space with both Boeing 777 & 737.
Flew in this badboy from NY to Korea twice. I just couldn't believe how massive it felt and definitely was a dope experience, no matter the brutal flight times
People are obviously not as gullible as you are :) It is a disgusting gas-guzzler. Like an American SUV. Horrible engineering, pushed with huge gas-guzzling engines. No wonder the airlines dumped them. Covid gave airlines an excuse. Air France (where A380 is made) junked/trashed all of its A380s. (no second-hand market for this piece of shit).
This aircraft was developed at a time when the world was clearly moving away from traditional hub & spoke to long and skinny with smaller, more efficient aircraft. It was developed at a time when fuel efficient twin-engine wide bodies were already a proven concept. It was developed at a time when the 747 was beginning its decline in use in the passenger space as the four-engine behemoths of yesteryear were no longer necessary for most routes. It was developed during a time when even the tri-jet could no longer compete with ultra efficient and powerful twin-jets. ...and the final nail in the coffin...it was designed primarily as a passenger aircraft, whereas the 747 was an excellent freighter from the get-go. How Airbus could get this so wrong is beyond me. The A350 was Airbus's redemption...and should have been the plane to develop all along. When Airbus was working on A380, Boeing was developing the 787, which in the end, proved to be a much smarter move.
During the negotiations to partner up on doing such an aircraft, Boeing cleverly conned Airbus into believing misleading stats and pulled out of the joint venture. Airbus then proceeded with the project based on erroneous information --- and PRIDE.
The technology developed for the A380 was very useful in the design of the A350 and probably other future planes, so it was not a waste of time. They were also tricked by Boeing, as others pointed out.
I flew on this beautiful plane in November 2018 with Etihad from Brisbane to Abu Dhabi it was quite empty but I felt so safe in it as it was a very smooth journey.. one of my best flight experience. I’ve traveled around the world ever since I was a child and this was one of the most beautiful flights I can remember.
A further issue: The 747 can successfully operate as a freighter and is still being built in that configuration. The A380 cannot be flexibly configured as a freighter because of the internal double deck.
They (UPS et al) cancelled the .F. because it could not be made as efficient a freighter as the .747F . The A-380 is a vast aircraft , with a huge interior . It is optimized for underdense payload , in other-words , passengers . Air-freight is heavier per square-foot , so the aircraft reaches it's MTOW long before it is full . This means that 25% more aircraft is used , to haul only 10% more freight . That equals less profit for the shippers , so they pulled out . The only good way to use the A-380 in the new point-to-point market, is to change it to a split-level combi-freighter . This will enable it to service smaller , more local airports , as the customers and shippers are desiring . The plane's upper deck can seat over 300 pax , and the cargo-holds can contain over 70 tons of freight . The main deck can hold some passengers , and all of the passenger's luggage . This layout enables the A-380 to always fly full , whereupon it is still one of the most efficient airliners flying . BTW ; it also gets rid of the need for that troublesome double gangway , and oversized passenger terminals . *Best ride in the sky ! D.H.
As a passanger I loved the A380 - I flew on them many many times with Singapore between LHR and Changi...my favourite spot was upstairs in 1st row or just in front of the bulkhead a few seats back. There is absolutely loads of room....
It’s probably one of the nicest flights I’ve ever been on. It was a 16 hour flight but there was zero turbulence and it was as comfortable as you could possibly ask out if a airline you don’t own. I would definitely recommend not getting economy if you’re 6’ or taller, because the lack of leg space can admittedly be brutal. Fortunately there’s always room to get up and walk around.
a other down side is that the A380 is not really usable as a cargo only aircraft. Do to it's structural design. the floor in between the two levels are part of the main support system. the B747 doesn't have that problem you can use the entire space with in as one big cargo space. that will be the main reason the B747 will be uses longer. for passenger both are on there last part but cargo does like bigger planes.
I dont think so. I flew witt from Doha to Bangkok and it wasnt that nice. It was loud and small. Flew back with a 777 and it was very smooth and quiet.
Aron77 Well, first person I’m seeing having flown on both saying the 777 is quieter than the A380. And that’s quite a surprise, because you know, it really isn’t. i.stack.imgur.com/DbyE8.jpg Also first one I see using the adjective small to describe an A380.
Meanwhile Germany, Spain, the UK and France are trying to get Airbus to repay the 2 billion euros Airbus still owes European countries which Airbus borrowed to build the A380. But Airbus is refusing to repay the loan saying that since the A380 was a failure the contract doesn't require repayment. Well done, Europe!
Oh she's a beautiful thing to fly in, and I had the privilege of doing so in that first year of Singapore Airlines flights from Singapore to Sydney, where she made an 8-hour flight feel more like 4. In July this year I flew an A380 a second time, with Emirates from Sydney over to Christchurch, and my travel partner said it's the only flight he ever took that he wished had been longer. So the airlines flying these spacious, quiet, smooth and sumptuous planes are making their passengers very happy, and it's nice that Airbus subsidized our comfort with their losses. Yeah, they missed what the airline market was going to do in future years but there is nothing wrong with the plane from a single passenger's point-of-view. She's a freaking masterpiece.
Not sure if they really missed it. Might have just been too early. We are currently in a period where the amount of people flying in winter is going towards the amount that fly in summer.... The times where you could say "Oh we have all the work and all the passengers in summer!" seem to be over in a few years. And it's just not feasible to have direct flights from every airport to every airport.
It's a fail the only reason no one died yet was Qantas had 5 expert pilots flying it when the engine did the unexpected. Look what happened to the MAX with robot UBER pilots that can't think outside the box. The day before the first max crash the visiting pilot turn off the MCAS switch. Then did no one think to tell the pilots flying that plane the very next day or even mention that there was maybe something needing maintenance. Unbelievable.
@@rodrocketis I'm not sure why, but few people seem to understand that MCAS can be switched off like you said. You just have to know about the two switches. Too bad no one told that crew or no one mentioned the need for a maintenance check as you said. Ethiopia and indonesia allow pilots to fly airliners with far less experience and training than America or many other countries. This has nothing to do with race or skin color so it isn't racist to say this. It is a factual observation. This doesn't mean I am letting Boeing off the hook. The governments of Ethiopia and Indonesia are part of the reason those planes crashed along with Boeings irresponsibility. Of course this has nothing to do with the A380. Got a little side tracked. I haven't heard of the engine incident with Quantas you mentioned.
Very sad to see this go. I worked for a subcontractor on this airplane during its development in 2003 until Airbus pulled the work from us in 2009. I remember seeing videos on how difficult it was to move the big structures (like the Wings) through the roads in France.
Ironically, A380s are getting something of a comeback. With the aviation market kinda coming back, and a lack of other immediately available and suitable airframes for a variety of reasons, several airlines have turned to mothballed A380s to generate carrying capacity quickly, especially where travel time/distances are more of an issue these days due to the problems with Russian airspace these days. I doubt it's going back into production or anything, but it's definitely getting a second lease of life, and airlines that bought some are likely to be a lot more thankful that they did than they may have thought likely a few years ago
@@talltroll7092 Glad to hear that. Not really sure how many airports have accommodated their jetways to the size of the A380 though but at least knowing that it continues to fly gives that sense of pride in me.
I find failure a bit harsh, the only metric that it failed in was sales. In every other possible way it has been a success. From the tech that was invented, through passenger experience all the way through to improvements to airports in how they handle huge numbers of people off one aircraft this plane has changed the way we travel more than any other in recent times. I also wonder if by the late 30's if the volume of travel hasn't again pushed towards much larger planes and the lessons that airbus learned with this beast will stand them in good stead. I'm a premium flyer (advantage of doing it a lot) and will always seek out an A380 particularly for long haul. The comfort and quiet is unmatched and I have flown everything currently flying from Airbus, Boeing, Embraer and Bombadier dodgy spelling aside!
It is also inefficient to operate, expensive and tricky to maintain, has no 2nd hand market, and few airports can or want to handle it. It came too late. Also it can't be used as a cargo variant.
only inefficient if you don't have the market to operate. If you can fill it with any mix it makes a fortune, Emirates say so, Qantas did as well. The wrong time is a hard one, a new plane is a decade old by the time it gets to market, so there is an element of luck, I would also say the engine problems of current newer airliners were a contributing factor as to a new NEO version that Emirates was seeking as Rolls Royce stated they couldn't do it which was the smartest thing they have done in a long time!
@@mnewm21 That is the thing, only Emirates can reliably fill it to capacity on a nearly regular basis and only filled to capacity is it cost effective to operate. Even Emirates cut their order substantially and is retiring them early. Airbus helped kill it with the A350 just like Boeing didn't do the 747 any favors with the 777. I agree on the timing and element of luck and RR was smart to say no. I wonder if Emirates would abandon it if the 777x was ready.
@@DaveMiller2 I'd be surprised Tim has acknowledged that he still needs them for trunk routes as he can't offer enough capacity as they are slot constrained at a lot of airports they are there only option for increasing seats into a destination. I can see them reducing numbers but they will still be flying them until the mid 30s unless something drastic happens to change the flying world again. The 350 and 777x will be the dominant long haulers for the next period but again they are talking about another 500mill to 1 billion people flying each year by the 50s our airports are going to choke on smaller planes and that larger plane will be needed again. Only time will tell and in the meantime living in Aus I'll still be using them for my long haul whenever the opportunity arises.
Passengers generally dont like 737s e.g. Ryanairs 737 but it has helped Ryanair to become the second largest airline in Europe. So your logic doesnt make sense
Watching this after watching Airbus's tribute to the A380 they made after the production was officially ceased. Kinda surreal that such an iconic plane is starting to run out of flight hours.
I just flew it few days ago (5 Dec 2019) from Munich to San Francisco and the plane was _very_ nice to fly in the economy class because it had many empty seats! I slept on three seats, the woman in the next row used four seats, so I can see the problem from the owner's POV. Strangely enough, a small part of the economy class (4 rows + 3 seats in the fifth row) was in the upper deck (this was Lufthansa, I suppose other seating arrangements are possible) so I booked it out of curiosity. Nothing special (no difference with the lower deck which also had empty rows) except the steward's attention was exceptional as he had only this tiny section to worry about. The plane flew quite high, at 12,571 metres, the noise level is quite low, the general impression is competence and smoothness. Too bad it's getting somewhat uneconomical to run.
Had unfortunate delay on our flight from London to Frankfurt (flying Lufthansa) and missed our connecting flight to Bangkok. We ended up missing 2 days of our vacation, but we were rerouted through Qatar airways to Doha then onto Bangkok. It sucked, but it kinda made up for it because we got to hitch a ride from Frankfurt to Doha on the A380. Might be a redundant aircraft due to costs but man that was the most smooth and comfortable flight I’ve ever had. Landing was so smooth, flight felt amazing and there was little engine noise too. Glad I got to experience it at least once,
Me in a 747-400: “Ah so this is what it’s like to be a particle in the large hadron collider” Me in an A-380: “So when are we gonna take off? Wait, what do you mean 40,000ft…?”
mitchell104 It’s probably from their feasibility study on the 777X or their take on the original 777 development, as they assisted with it but never placed an order.
I love flying the A380. I flew from Qatar to London’s and it was nice roomy and comfortable. But I can see the the plane is inefficient. There was so many empty seats!
@@oden4373 Non-stop flight time is around 14 hours. Quickest flight time with a stopover is 16 hours. Longer durations are possible depending upon location of stopover and duration of stopover
Got to fly twice in economy class with Korean Air from Paris to Seoul. it was one of the best experience in my life. So much comfort, it was mind-blowing.
The Airbus A-380 wouldn't have been a failure if the engineers who designed it had used skillshare, squarespace, audible, curiositystream and the great courses plus.
John howard And using internal communications developed by Nord VPN
Lol
Clearly, their perceived failure is due to the wrong mindset and could be fixed via quantic development with my special coach tretament via holy stones. I might also interest you into a special jar to recharge the stones and piece of real state in Florida where you can let your true potential come through. If you need money, I can point you to an investment fund that specializes in startups whose work ethics is defined by bold enterprises such as buying the Brooklyn Bridge and Eifell Tower.
hahhaha amazing comment!
The real problem was that none of the engineers used Dashlane, so their passwords and documents were free to be hacked by Boeing!
This video has a disgusting lack of Toyota Corollas in it
Lol
Waaaay better comment than mine
Is this a fake channel
I noticed that, too. Camrys are also missing. What's going on?
facts
You know, the saddest part of this is that one day people will find this plane right next to the Concorde in a museum. And just like the Concorde, people will wonder what it was like to fly in such an engineering marvel.
LordTrayus i doubt it bcz population of this world is only gonna increase the way it’s looking.
LordTrayus I doubt that. Short life.
@@tiffanyb634 always wanted to do this. maybe one day when funds permit. tbh would like to try this with both. ( 747 and airbus a380) im a boeing guy, but i do like the 380
@Alvin Walters yes but it sadly failed
@FlappableBean the a380 with emirates is nothing like that.
It was a triumph, not a failure. It became a failure due to unforeseen circumstances. I enjoyed every flight on these planes I had. There is nothing else that compares!
While an economic failure it was definitely an engineering success.
A wrench 🔧 could also a be a Engineering success....
I'm not sure if it was an economic failure though. Sure, viewed within its own self-contained bubble, it's difficult to argue with the fact that the A380 cost Airbus more than it brought in, but that's not the whole picture. Now that Airbus is the largest commercial aircraft manufacturer in the world (partly thanks to Boeing's recent propensity to shoot itself in the foot, but Airbus was set to overtake Boeing anyway), it's difficult to remember this, but prior to the launch of the A380, Airbus was seen by most of the world as a manufacturer of superb narrowbodies, but very much playing second fiddle to Boeing in the widebody market. The A380 changed that overnight. Yes, Airbus built a plane that ultimately cost more money than it made in sales, but as a marketing exercise, it was beyond succesful, and I do believe that what Airbus continues to gain in A220, A320neo, A330neo and A350 orders is in no small part thanks to what the A380 did for Airbus' reputation.
@@77l96 coming from someone obviously not in engineering.
@@77l96 please size isn't everything. The systems and material sciences that went into the A380 are multiple times more complicated and sophisticated than whatever went into the Antov. For example the dynamic flow of fuel to control wing bending in different flight phases helps optimise structural wing weight and is a system that isn't in any other Boeing or Airbus in service. The point is for an armchair warrior that looks at things superficially you just won't understand the thousands of innovations that made this plane and every other modern plane made after the A380 much more efficient than the previous generation.
@@77l96 A350 has many evolved technologies that were first introduced on the A380. No doubt the A350 is a much more efficient machine, due in part benefiting from lessons learnt but also the fact that the A380 was designed not to be at its current size but optimized to be at the stretched size with a longer fuselage. However in the current climate the stretched A380 would of made even less economic sense for airlines, as flying empty A320s is bad enough...
give A380 to ryanair ... they will pack 2000 passanger , shopping mall & a restaurent to sell us all the food and still make profit
this airline and CEO are crazy ;)
ZiadBeirut then don’t fly RyanAir. It’s that easy! If you have money, book a better airline. Smh
@@evacyou8812 true, people expect excellent service for the price of 15€... SMH
@@evacyou8812 @Captain Vojta
i have money and i did use ryanair multiple of times. it was ok... iam imagining if they get an A380 what they might do with it. so no need for SMH if someone has different opinion
@@melanatedqueenelle6748 It's easy, don't be rich lmfao
@@melanatedqueenelle6748 Oh, so that's what you call people who can't pay 200€ for a 1 hour flight. 'Uncivilised'.
I remember flying with Emirates airline A380. I have never seen anything like that in my life. Even in economy class i felt way more comfortable than anyother commercial aircraft.
Shikhar Srivastava I thought this was the same across any Emirates aircraft though. I flew on a 777 and it was basically the same as my experience on an A380, except for the planes being different sizes
Shikhar Srivastava
You were comfortable in economy not because it was a a380, but because it was Emirates. Get it right
@@lawriem7747 My route Saigon to London with Emirates uses the 777 SGN to Dubai and the A380 onwards to London or Birmingham.
I fly business class just to eat away what I'll leave as an inheritance.
Much prefer a A380 seating as the bed is truly lay flat, the 777 is more coffin like and in the window seat you have to squeeze pass the isle seat passenger. Now if they changed the seating layout to the same as the A380 it would fund favour with me.
On the A380 if you don't won't to eat at your seat there's the bar area to have a drink and chat, even eat a snack meal at a proper table.
Good Moaning Vietnam I was talking about economy, I guess I didn’t specify, but cool
@@thestrangeman069 Emirates a380 is better than Emirates 777. Wayyyyy better. There's just more space on a380. More clean
I am so lucky to have flown on both the 747 and the A380. Both are amazing planes. I was just so thoroughly impressed by the A380. It was probably the nicest plane I have ever flown on. I also loved the 747.
We are a family of 4 and yes only the A380 and 747 have 4 seats in the middle, and we love to sit together. They are also the most comfortable planes we have ever flown.
Ironically it's one of the fastest planes in service, despite being massive
Fastest means expensive
@@MarkYeung1 also if its more economicle per person ??
how is that ironic?
Not really ironic. That's just how aerodynamics work.
It has a high mach number max speed but actual cruise speed slower than 747 to achieve required range.
The quietest plane ive ever flown on. A lot of leg room and you can barely feel the turbulance
facts i went on the singapore airline one and it was a nice experience
If you didn't feel the turbulence maybe there was no turbulence on the route.
Try A-350 next time
@@sundar999 I've flown on an A380 from JFK to Paris Paris Charles De Gaulle on Airfrance, the first time I flew that same route to was on a 777 same airline I felt some turbulence but it was mostly a smooth ride. When we left New York it was raining pretty hard but they allowed flights out of there I barely felt anything considering the weather that day but turbulence is higher up but my point is that it was the same route but still no turbulence.
I’ve flown on it across the Pacific and you’re right. Even when you can tell the turbulence is bad it doesn’t FEEL like it.
A380: A failure
Emirates: I am going to pretend I did not hear that.
Lol, they're using it on ridiculous routes nowadays, dubai london for example
@@jurjanmeskisvili7897 i saw a 40 minute a380 route 😭
All I say that many big airlines are considering A380 while there are lots of airlines didn't want to buy A380 because of the size of it
@@jurjanmeskisvili7897 ye, even A330 can do that
they said it's because people loved it. the other airline that has no news of phasing it out is china southern... they're backed by government anyway so the huge operating cost is barely a problem to them
Most comfortable plane I have ever entered in my life! You barely notice or hear the engine when rocketing down the runway! It's just simply the best flying experience in the sky as a passenger!
First time I fly with Emirates A380 I didn't realize at all that the airplane has landed in Manchester Airport until I see the plane running on the runway. Unbelievable.
people in 2003: "I got to fly on the concorde"
people in 2021: "I got to fly on the a380"
Concorde is more special, it’s probably the only time in ur life if ur not a fight pilot to fly past the speed of sound
@@crazyrocketman They are building new supersonic aircraft....
It'd be nice if I could ever get on board of an a380 even just for once.
I have been on an a380 it’s an absolute amazing plane. Super comfortable
@APPAN 😂😂😂
It’s arguably a commercial failure, however it’s also the best aircraft I have flown on
Yes
The quieter plane I have ever experienced
Yes I think so, too
Definitely the best aircraft I have ever flown on
The luggage wait is pretty damn long though
When Emirates stopped purchasing the A380, it was kinda screwed.
They were screwed. Haha.
yeah buying 150 777x's was the move
Indeed. Emirates is one of the only airlines that can afford to operate the plane with their people hauling.
It was screwed when Emirates became the only airline giving it a lifeline.
The Emirates woke up and saw that the excesses were catching up to the world. Excessive credit with NO backing. No gold, no silver, no checks and balances. China, Russia, even TURKEY have been buying TONS of gold for when the fiat currency system collapses.
Turkey you say. Who are they? THEY are the former Ottoman Empire. Never heard of it I'll bet. Look it up, surpasses the much touted ROMAN empire by a large measure. The Turks know their history but few know the genocide BY THEM of the Armenian GENOCIDE. Move over Jews, you weren't the ONLY, so called Holocaust. www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/armenian-genocide
I used to be a regular international traveller, the A380 was a very comfortable and quiet plane to fly in and all round a pleasure, if you were lucky enough to fly business class it was really nice, a way better plane to fly in than any of the Boeing planes around at the time, then again the A380 was still a fairly new plane design and the Boeing were all older designs, a big shame that it is no longer being made, RIP.
I flew on the a380 yesterday and I can say it’s very comfortable and quiet
I’ve flown Singapore Airlines and British Airways A380’s, top and main floors. The engines are either amazingly quiet, or the cabin insulation is very good.
What's the difference between the top and main floor? Is it First and Business classes up top and economy downstairs?
@@johnscanlan9335 it will depend upon each airline and their own configuration. On Singapore, the top was Business & Premium Economy/Economy. Main floor was Economy, Premium, and First Class mini-suites. I remember flying BA economy on the main floor.
@@johnscanlan9335 I've been on Singapore Airlines and Qantas's A380 Upper deck Economy. The main difference between lower deck economy is the seating arrangement. Usually the lower deck would be in 3-4-3, while the upper deck would be 2-4-2. So it has slightly wider seats, and if you sit besides the window, you'd get extra storage compartment as well just under the window.
Besides seat, you'd also get a quicker boarding/de-boarding as well as you don't have to queue behind hundreds of people in economy, just a few in business and maybe first.
Why A380 is a failed product?
@@ferdykurniawan9857 that's exactly how it was on my second ever flight from LHR to HKG (the first being the "spoke" flight). I didn't even know anything about planes or seating, but I got an upper deck economy window seat. had it gone differently, I probably wouldn't still be in love with flying :)
Flew the a380 on emirates both ways Toronto-Dubai just a week ago - never been on a plane so quiet. Even the turbulence was so muted. And legroom was pretty darn good even for economy, so emirates did a good job with their seating arrangement order!
They're amazing to fly on!
I have to admit I went from Sydney to Dallas Texas on A380 it was so quiet
The A350 has amazing quietness as well.
It is an amazing machine second to none for passenger comfort especially in economy class plenty of areas to stand up and strech your legs.
I flew in it too and it was amazing, so spacious too, really liked it... too bad it is not economical to run
This was a plane for the passengers. Especially Australians who do ultra long haul flights to get anywhere. I will be sad to see them go.
Was it really reliable as a Boeing after the first 5 hours? In consistency?
I was born in thailand but i moved when i was 1 year old
@@g.bubblybrown9472 No way. The wings usually fell off after 4 hours and the wheels after 5 and a half.
As an Aussie who flew Sydney to Dallas, at the time the longest route, it was the nicest long haul flight I have ever had (in economy as always). A Plane for the people :-) . What struck me was how quiet it was.
G. Bubbly Brown “reliable as boeing” meaning the manufacturer can’t be asked to fix the thing properly when a part breaks, willingly sending an entire aircraft of passengers to the deaths?
On multiple occasions?
Including what is considered the single worst air crash, in which a Japanese airline’s 747 lost its tail and killed over 500 people, because Boeing’s employees refused to properly repair a heavily damaged internal part at the base of the tail fin.
The A380 is not a ‘failure’. It just arrived behind its time. The safety, comfort, quietness, care put into keeping the damn thing working properly, and capacity - as well as looking much better than any competition - make the A380 an incredible aircraft and (yes, I am somewhat against the 747) a SIGNIFICANTLY superior aircraft to other double-decker commercial airplanes.
Flew on an A380 on route from LAX to SYD. I could definitely tell the difference and it was indeed a luxury aircraft! It's a shame they're discontinuing from a passenger standpoint.
I have flown to Munich several times on this plane operated by Lufthansa. This is the best plane that I have ever flown on.
True!
I have been lucky enough to fly the A380 from Doha to Paris and back many times, and it's my favorite airliner for the comfort and everything else
Yeah it is. I have once flown to Japan with this Airbus 380. It’s just so smooth and faster than any other plane I’ve flown with.
Yes. I especially like how smooth and quite it is.
Never flown with a Cessna Citation?
Wow, this video was made pre-Covid back in 2019. It must be a total disaster by now.
At least enough space for social distancing inside 😂
Almost half of Emirates' A380 fleet is mothballed at DWC Airport, outside of Dubai.
They won’t have done well but compared to other planes I reckon A380 might have don’t better because more people can get on although I guess it would make it extremely in efficient compared to other planes because the A380 solely relies on capacity
@@zenokada2278 Even at full capacity, the A380 is less efficient per-seat-km than the B777, B787 an A350. The A380's only real advantage in commercial air can only be leveraged in circumstances where:
1. The airports are large enough (both runway and terminal) to handle it.
2. The airports are too busy to handle additional flight traffic.
-- For almost all airports around the world, it's generally a better option to increase PAX capacity by just flying more often, using your B777s or A350s.
3. The passenger travel demand between the airports is high enough to warrant an increase in capacity.
@@AaronCMounts in the not-so-distant future cities like Lagos and Kinshasa which are growing at an insane rate might need even bigger planes than A380... Look at how "well" Delhi and Mumbai are already handling congestion and then imagine that amount of traffic in corrupt dictatorships like there
A380 is the most comfortable air craft I’ve ever been
It's like a hotel
It's bigger than a hottel lol
Unless you flew an Air France A380.
I flew 17 1/2 hours in an A380 from Dallas to Sydney. It was the smoothest and quietest flight I’ve ever had. Absolutely incredible.
It is the most comfortable aircraft I have been on...
Hactar Davros Blinkenlights Thats terrible 😨 i will not survive 😅 i never fly Eco class when i Go on Vacay outside the EU.
Noor Noor It must be nice being able to afford the $6000 round trip business ticket between say London and Singapore
@ I flew on the a380 from LHR to HKG which is a 12 hrs flight and it was not too bad. Wasnt the most comfortable flight but it's not torture.
@ I'm 14 yes
I have words. Same.
Flown in this plane twice with BA and Emerits. Best aircraft I have ever flown in. Wonderful, spacious and so comfortable in economy class.
Agreed. I didnt even feel the landing
In my opinion, the A380 was an amazing plane and was extremely comfortable, speaking from a dozen of flights on it
is
You can still fly in one of those
@@fittersitter and @andreylucas, i am aware you can still fly on it, i was using 'was' as in the last time i went on it
I think this aircraft would have been a huge success if they had simply added a 3rd level to it with a selection of bars, restaurants and duty free shops.
@@fittersitter Extremely quiet and comfortable as a plane but more passengers means more screaming babies so in reality not so quiet.
I flew on an A380 from LAX to Bankok, Thailand. I honestly didn't even know I was on a plane based upon how smooth that long-ass flight was. Too bad that it's such a nightmare for airports to handle, coupled with the incredible costs to fly the pig. It's a gorgeous aircraft; certainly my favorite after perhaps the 747. Those two beauties always amaze me!! Thanks for the info!
I flew the A380 as a captain for Emirates for 7 years, it was the best plane I ever flew
why ? how does it compare to the triple 7 or 747-8
@Mr President Stop trying to compete with Kim Jung-un. The most perfect nation on the planet knows he's the most accomplished flier ever...
Must be nice being damn loaded.
@@cjeam9199 If you're talking to me, it was a joke.
Real Canadian Railfan (I was not. Referring to op. Since Emirates captains are paid shit loads.)
RLL/RLL2: releases a plane video
Wendover: *triggered*
Even I got triggered
So is HAI!
Stop posting this tired, derivative, unfunny comment. Wendover Productions isn't the only UA-cam channel that makes videos about aviation.
@@AdamLeuer i know it is, although it hurts me inside, i like seeing how many likes i can get, its just so interesting to see how much i can manipulate people with bad jokes
@@AdamLeuer i dont feel any guilt, so take it if you will
Mustard:
‘Hold on! This is not allowed!’
Aviation tubers unite!
Mustard is underrated his animations are clean asf
But his speech is hard to listen too
This would definitely be a Mustard content in 30 or so years. The youngest vehicle Mustard has ever talked about was the 1970s A300
I worked at sydney international airport in the early 2000s and remember how much room and infrastructure this plane needed. I am not surprised that became a real issue.
ufthansa has announced it's bringing its A380s back in 2023. There are several reasons why airlines are circling back to the superjumbo. "There's a lack of wide-body capacity, as some operators such as British Airways retired older airplanes like the Boeing 747
@@ticotechhouston4917
There is no such airline called "ufthansa"?
Lots of people fly in business or 1st class, but for economy it's not a problem to board from the plane into a bus, or go on foot to the terminal.
Not sure about the hangars and other maintenance.
If I was as wealthy as Gates, I’d buy one and turn it into a flying home
saudi arabian royal Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal has done just that, he's got a PRIVATE A380 that's basically a mobile palace
@@drewgehringer7813 I think what he got is a 747, and not an A380.
satanist
@@TheMrNalsur He has both
@@drewgehringer7813 That plane was never delivered though. He cancelled that order before the plane was delivered.
I flew it several times and find it the most comfortable of all passenger jets.
Well, if you're flying it you have loads of room up there in the flight deck.
Who asked 😂😂
Most comfortable planes I’ve ever flown on were the a380 and the 737MAX....
@@stone5048 Ive flown long haul London-Bangkok in the A380 4 times and is it by far the most comfortable plane around, and Ive flown in most commercial jets.
But not comfortable for Airlines budget.
*"Airbus A-380 is a failure"*
Me: *_Eh?_*
I absolutely hate hub airports...
Mohamed darwish YES, as said it is a LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE , When EMERATES cancelled its order,,,then,it was doomed< SINGAPORE AIR returned 2 to its leasing company, DO YOU KNOW WHAT
Happened? They weweSCRAPPED, as there is ZERO MARKET FOR THEM. None ever flew full, so AIRLINES ARE LOSING MONEY , ITS A FLYING WHITE ELEPHANT.
CHEERS FROM NJ USA. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@flip inheck Yanks still are taught in school that two bicycle repair men invented the aeroplane. I am not kidding. I have a history book that is used in their schools and it states Wilber Wright and Orval Right invented the aeroplane and heavier than air flight. Then again, that same book states Thomas Edison, the infamous patent thief, invented the incandescent light bulb. Wow! Indoctrination and propaganda are taught as fact there.
@@indridcold8433 They sure didnt invent the airplane, but were first in powered heavier than air flight..thats what we are taught. They invented flying..so say the French when they showed up in France in 1908 with patents secured, making turns snd wuick altitude changes ehike Europeans barely could fly in a strait line..after discovering Lilianthals wing warping figures were Wrong.
Indrid Cold so why are they scrapping A380? Because there isn’t the same demand as before.
I have flown on the A380 many times to and from Australia via LAX on QANTAS, from Dubai to Perth on Emirates and to London on British. I’ve had the luxury of sitting in Business, First and Economy. Even in economy I was impressed with the plane, but even more, I was impressed with the service.
I flew twice in the a380 and it was amazing. It was the quietest and most comfortable airplane i have ever flown. The only "negative" thing was that on the second flight the landing gear was frozen or something and extended with a loud bang that shook the entire airplane.
That's normal. Every time I had a seat near the landing gear, it was scary as hell!
Well its huge as hell, but its still safer than the 737 max 8
Any plane is safer than that mess
Baran Orak exactly
The infamous DC-10 is actually more safe than the Boeing 737 Max - series. I am glad Boeing's cost cutting, parts outsourcing, shortcut taking, cheap engineer hiring, Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg was fired. It was a long time coming. The early Boeing 777s should have prompted his firing then.
actually the 737 max 8 without mcas itself is safe, the mcas was made to make the plane feel like an NG. obviously the engine will create a moment force, forcing the plane to pitch up, however this can be fixed with a new type rating for pilots (new training module). MCAS wasn't really needed, it was just so it was cheaper for airlines to train pilots to the next model.
@@rahul583gt6 Excellent post Friend.
My wife and I recently flew business class on an Air France 380. From our experience, it was impressive and most enjoyable.
The a380 is hardly a failure, as of 2022 Emirates are currently buying up any spare a380 they can get hold of and rumours are believed to be on going between Emirates and Airbus to restart production . It's a fabulous plane and quiet.
From personal experience it’s my favourite aircraft to travel in. There’s something special about flying in a plane so huge
Your rich I fly small airlines
Its Max, I ain’t flexing but I’ve only flown on emirates.
Not a failure to the people who choose to fly on it. Hopefully it sticks around for a few more years, makes the Sydney to Scotland journey a joy.
Well it's a failure in the fact that the company is taking a loss on its existence. They would have been better off never having made it.
@@EngineeringNS
The same could be said about your parents, they would have been better off if they had never made you and that is very true. Airbus may have lost money but they gained a strong following and have gained from the technology put into the A 380.
@@barrierodliffe4155 Parents don't have children to make money, they have children for instinctive and emotional reasons, so a completely ridiculouis analogy.
@@adamlea6339
If you did not get the point that is hardly my problem.
@@adamlea6339 You didn't get his point. And I also have to inform you that you are partially wrong there. Many parents get kids these days to show off with them, nothing else. "Look at us! We have a child, and we gonna make bigger birthday parties for him then you do for your child! And we give the guests of our child nicer and more awesome presents then you do!"
Airbus' big mistake was the timing of the A380's introduction. They were too late for the original jumbo jet era, and thus the plane is too costly for most airlines to operate. If they had waited 20 or so more years, it's possible jumbo jets could come back with bigger infrastructures and more people to move. It's an absolutely beautiful aircraft, but it was made at the wrong time. It reminds me of the Ford Edsel in a way.
Agree. I might see some potential though in a scenario where highly frequented cities can't build up capacity (or not in attractive distance to the destination anyway) so that landing slots at those desired destinations will become so tight it warrants bigger plans again.
If that's the case I'm sure they will reintroduce a new A380 version or a similar new model (A390?)
Another downside to the plane, is that once it's retired from passenger duty, it's pretty much scrap. That's the big plus to the 747, in that it can be converted to a freighter. I'm a little surprised Airbus didn't design for that.
@@tangydiesel1886 Good point. They really should have. There IS a market for large commercial cargo planes these days. The 747-8 is having great success in that role.
@@tangydiesel1886 The A380 wouldn't make too much sense as freighter, because there aren't that many runways that can handle the A380.
I am an Australian, living in Poland for the past 12 years and (before Covid-19) making two visits to Sydney each year. In the first 4 years while I had a lot of Frequent Flyer points, I was flying Warsaw to London to Singapore and finishing in Sydney. The plane to London was smaller than a 747, then the flight London to Sydney was on a 747. It would be something like 5 hours (minimum) traveling from Warsaw when the 747 would be almost flying over Warsaw on the way to Singapore. Since the FF points ran out, I now fly Emirates from Warsaw to Dubai to Sydney with a 3-4 hours stopover in Dubai. The 15-hour leg from Dubai to Sydney is on an A-380 and it is the most comfortable plane I have ever traveled on (being 2metres tall). My biggest criticism of this documentary is that I have NOT ONCE been on an A-380 flight which has not been 100% full - and I have always flown outside the holiday season. One last thing: As I said I am an Australian, but the service on Emirates flights outclasses that on every QANTAS and British Airways flights I have ever made (and includes those flights made in the 20 years before living in Europe).
I detected a fair amount of bias by the commentator, particularly the part where he mentions that Boeing seemed to get it right. Well, let’s not sing Boeing’s praises too much. Anyone heard a out the 737-Maxx?
I’ve had my fair share of flights with this beauty.
London-Abu Dhabi
London-Hong Kong
London-Dubai
London-Singapore
New York-Dubai
New York-Singapore
New York-London
New York-Doha
Los Angeles-Sydney
Los Angeles-Seoul
Nothing comes close to the sheer pleasure and comfort of the A380. I was sincerely heartbroken when I received the news of the A380s death. But, it’s comforting to know that airlines will still use this masterpiece for some years to come. So people can have chance to experience the marvelousness of this aircraft. I’ve flown First Class/Business Class on all my flights with the A380. Experiences that I will never ever forget. I’m grateful for everything.
Rode the Emirates A380 from Toronto to Dubai. I remember it taking off and the sheer weight and mass of the plane lifting off the runway is something I’ll never forget. An amazing experience. The most comfortable flight I’ve ever been on.
As I understand it, it's also the lack of cargo capacity (for it's size) that's a huge issue.
Airlines make a substantial amount of their profit from freight.
I flew in an A380 for my first time in end of 2019 from Germany to SF. I just remember being astounded at how gigantic that thing is. My first thought was how difficult it must be to maneuver at airports.
A380 is like a flying cruising ship. Love that plane and have been flying it twice.
To have a spiral staircase in a plane is a wonderful thing. The only possible improvement would be an onboard swimming pool and spa...
I'd say the aircraft itself is a success, the exponential business model was a bit over valued. It happens.
It cost 25 Billion euros to develop and will never ever come close to paying for itself. That alone makes it a failure. It only lasted a dozen years or so. It is expensive to buy, inefficient to operate unless totally full and it's hard to totally fill. It is expensive and tricky to maintain. Few airports can handle it. And because of these things, there is virtually no 2nd hand market for it. Nobody but Emirates wants it and even they cut their orders way back. It's a wonder it lasted as long as it did. So no, the aircraft, while impressive in some ways, is a failure, but as you said, so is the business model Airbus developed that gave birth to the A380.
@@DaveMiller2 Yes..all your points are noted and correct. I was actually speaking about the aircraft itself....mechanically and aerodynamics. I thought many years ago about the maintenance costs and the ability of Airbus to keep the seats full. That is a tall order. Reminds me of the Concorde. I watched a documentary on what it took to bring the 380 to fruition...a mammoth undertaking no doubt. Sometimes men's dreams are over-matched by sheer realities.
@@FSAUDIOGUY I would agreeThe A380 is an impressive technological feat.
dave miller Airbus was shit in providing Emirates what they needed in A380 aka more efficiency not more seats
FSAUDIOGUY Which means it wasn’t a success... Sure it’s an impressive piece of technology but if it’s not financially viable then the piece of technology fails. It’s not just about making a ‘cool plane’, if that was the case we’d see a lot more aircrafts like this. It’s a real shame but it’s a failure.
Airbus: Do you wanna do a group project?
Boeing: No, I don’t think I will
Because they knew it was a bad idea...
Nor MDC; at least they got THAT right
Derp 101 nope, mcas wouldn’t be needed on an a380 so...
The A380 was released a long time before MCAS so people saying MCAS would be fitted onto the a380 is wrong
@Derp Inshmurtz I'm glad I brought my popcorn :-)
Regardless of economics of airlines, everyone I know who flew on the A380 was amazed by it. Quiet, refined and comfortable.
i remember flying on an A380 in northern hemisphere autumn and the plane was pretty full from memory, although that was 2009, it was brisbane australia to heathrow stopping at singapore.
Still is with Qantas
Flights between hemispheres usually can find year round demand.
I had last year an afternoon flight Dubai - Amsterdam only 78 passengers on board of the A380!
No wonder Emirates is reducing its A380 fleet.
Only on high capacity routes its suited.
The A380 is a niche aircraft.
Went from London to Johannesburg in an A380 a couple of years ago... greatest flight I've ever had
I flew the a380 from Boston to dubai and the sheer size and comfortable economy class amazed me
There was amazing customer service(Emirates airlines) and there was lots of space
Sad to see it go:(
That speaks more about Emirates as an airline, than it does about the plane.
It’s a real shame. Whenever I book my flight tickets for long haul flights I always make sure that I’m flying on the A-380 as I find it so difficult to stretch out & have leg space with both Boeing 777 & 737.
I remember my first flight on the a380 i barely felt anything. Takeoff, turbulence, and landing were barely noticeable unless looking outside
Why is it a different presenter to real life lore
@@thegreatafrican3367 I was expecting it to be like his back up
The plane is so quiet to the point of "Have we already taken off?"
Flew in this badboy from NY to Korea twice. I just couldn't believe how massive it felt and definitely was a dope experience, no matter the brutal flight times
Best international flight of my life was on an A380. So quiet and comfortable.
ive never flown in it, but it seems like an amazing plane! i wish people appreciated it more.
Airbus a380 is the most comfortable plane according to me
Most people won't be able to afford a seat in a 380. Just expect a few elites to appreciate it.
Perhaps someday soon, you will experience it. I’ll be hoping you do, even if it’s just for your loyalty. BTW, I am not an Airbus employee.
People are obviously not as gullible as you are :) It is a disgusting gas-guzzler. Like an American SUV. Horrible engineering, pushed with huge gas-guzzling engines. No wonder the airlines dumped them. Covid gave airlines an excuse. Air France (where A380 is made) junked/trashed all of its A380s. (no second-hand market for this piece of shit).
@@tunim4354 I would consider myself middle class and I have flown on it from NY to Mumbai.
A380 is a marvellous machine. You feel like flying on the wings of a giant while in this aeroplane. I love A380.
747 is the daddy tho
I agree so too.
@tiestu you murica people
Is that Kazimi or KamaKazie
I have travelled on this aircraft as well. Very comfortable... Approach on landing feels like the plane is gliding...
A pre-emptive story as many A380s are comming back into service.
i flew on a380 from Paris to Nyc. It was an amazing experience. I did not feel any turbulance. You could feel the power on the engines.
I love the A380 flown several times with Emirates. While I understand the economics I will miss it. Marc in Johanbesburg
This aircraft was developed at a time when the world was clearly moving away from traditional hub & spoke to long and skinny with smaller, more efficient aircraft.
It was developed at a time when fuel efficient twin-engine wide bodies were already a proven concept.
It was developed at a time when the 747 was beginning its decline in use in the passenger space as the four-engine behemoths of yesteryear were no longer necessary for most routes.
It was developed during a time when even the tri-jet could no longer compete with ultra efficient and powerful twin-jets.
...and the final nail in the coffin...it was designed primarily as a passenger aircraft, whereas the 747 was an excellent freighter from the get-go.
How Airbus could get this so wrong is beyond me.
The A350 was Airbus's redemption...and should have been the plane to develop all along. When Airbus was working on A380, Boeing was developing the 787, which in the end, proved to be a much smarter move.
You're dead right. Would be fascinating to know the thought process that led to it being built...
How’d they get it wrong ?
Simple
It wasn’t their money. It was tax payer money.
During the negotiations to partner up on doing such an aircraft, Boeing cleverly conned Airbus into believing misleading stats and pulled out of the joint venture. Airbus then proceeded with the project based on erroneous information --- and PRIDE.
The technology developed for the A380 was very useful in the design of the A350 and probably other future planes, so it was not a waste of time.
They were also tricked by Boeing, as others pointed out.
fairly easy to criticize past sitting in future.
I flew on this beautiful plane in November 2018 with Etihad from Brisbane to Abu Dhabi it was quite empty but I felt so safe in it as it was a very smooth journey.. one of my best flight experience. I’ve traveled around the world ever since I was a child and this was one of the most beautiful flights I can remember.
6:53 Close. It's Bengaluru and Chennai.
They have Bombay on left
@@zekekace6882 my friend its renamed as Mumbai now :)
cute krishna
My favorite Airliner, it makes a 14 hour flight very tolerable. But yeah it was too late for it's time.
A further issue: The 747 can successfully operate as a freighter and is still being built in that configuration. The A380 cannot be flexibly configured as a freighter because of the internal double deck.
747-400s are available at a large discount from -8s from out in the secret. No real need to buy new planes.
Thomas Mace They were planning a freighter version, but after all the orders for it got cancelled, they shelved the variant.
I wonder how big the difference in operating costs between an A380 freighter and an Beluga XL would be
Thomas Mace Off topic, but are you familiar with your 17th century namesake lutenist and author?
They (UPS et al) cancelled the .F. because it could not be made as efficient a freighter as the .747F . The A-380 is a vast aircraft , with a huge interior . It is optimized for underdense payload , in other-words , passengers . Air-freight is heavier per square-foot , so the aircraft reaches it's MTOW long before it is full . This means that 25% more aircraft is used , to haul only 10% more freight . That equals less profit for the shippers , so they pulled out . The only good way to use the A-380 in the new point-to-point market, is to change it to a split-level combi-freighter . This will enable it to service smaller , more local airports , as the customers and shippers are desiring . The plane's upper deck can seat over 300 pax , and the cargo-holds can contain over 70 tons of freight . The main deck can hold some passengers , and all of the passenger's luggage . This layout enables the A-380 to always fly full , whereupon it is still one of the most efficient airliners flying .
BTW ; it also gets rid of the need for that troublesome double gangway , and oversized passenger terminals .
*Best ride in the sky !
D.H.
As a passanger I loved the A380 - I flew on them many many times with Singapore between LHR and Changi...my favourite spot was upstairs in 1st row or just in front of the bulkhead a few seats back. There is absolutely loads of room....
It’s probably one of the nicest flights I’ve ever been on. It was a 16 hour flight but there was zero turbulence and it was as comfortable as you could possibly ask out if a airline you don’t own. I would definitely recommend not getting economy if you’re 6’ or taller, because the lack of leg space can admittedly be brutal. Fortunately there’s always room to get up and walk around.
a other down side is that the A380 is not really usable as a cargo only aircraft. Do to it's structural design.
the floor in between the two levels are part of the main support system.
the B747 doesn't have that problem you can use the entire space with in as one big cargo space.
that will be the main reason the B747 will be uses longer. for passenger both are on there last part but cargo does like bigger planes.
Been on the A380 5 times. 4 with Emirates and 1 with Korean. Longest flight was Dubai to JFK. Loved it all 5 times.
That hot water shower at 36000 feet above the ground is an experience I will remember for a long long time. What an aircraft !
The A380 will go down in aviation history as either a technological marvel, or an expensive boondoggle.
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Not a technological marvel .
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Probably both...
It will have the same fate of the Concorde: planes that were too good to be real
Best aircraft I've ever flown. ...and it will still be around for another 10 or 15 years.
I dont think so. I flew witt from Doha to Bangkok and it wasnt that nice. It was loud and small. Flew back with a 777 and it was very smooth and quiet.
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Well, first person I’m seeing having flown on both saying the 777 is quieter than the A380.
And that’s quite a surprise, because you know, it really isn’t.
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Also first one I see using the adjective small to describe an A380.
@@aron7796 how was it "small" 777 feels like a rusty tub now as the economy class is a nightmare on most carriers!
Why such a short lifespan for such a magnificent creation?
Meanwhile Germany, Spain, the UK and France are trying to get Airbus to repay the 2 billion euros Airbus still owes European countries which Airbus borrowed to build the A380. But Airbus is refusing to repay the loan saying that since the A380 was a failure the contract doesn't require repayment. Well done, Europe!
A380 is BY FAR the best aircraft I've flown in. Such a shame.
I love the A380. I have flown on it many times. It's so darn quiet which is great.
Oh she's a beautiful thing to fly in, and I had the privilege of doing so in that first year of Singapore Airlines flights from Singapore to Sydney, where she made an 8-hour flight feel more like 4. In July this year I flew an A380 a second time, with Emirates from Sydney over to Christchurch, and my travel partner said it's the only flight he ever took that he wished had been longer.
So the airlines flying these spacious, quiet, smooth and sumptuous planes are making their passengers very happy, and it's nice that Airbus subsidized our comfort with their losses. Yeah, they missed what the airline market was going to do in future years but there is nothing wrong with the plane from a single passenger's point-of-view. She's a freaking masterpiece.
Not sure if they really missed it. Might have just been too early. We are currently in a period where the amount of people flying in winter is going towards the amount that fly in summer.... The times where you could say "Oh we have all the work and all the passengers in summer!" seem to be over in a few years.
And it's just not feasible to have direct flights from every airport to every airport.
The A380 is not a failure. It has served its purpose during the time it has been in the air with no lethal outcomes.
It made a net loss for airbus so classed as a failure
@@ethmister A REALLY BIG net loss. Billions and billions of euros.
Its fine airbus got that in illegal subs so.
It's a fail the only reason no one died yet was Qantas had 5 expert pilots flying it when the engine did the unexpected. Look what happened to the MAX with robot UBER pilots that can't think outside the box.
The day before the first max crash the visiting pilot turn off the MCAS switch. Then did no one think to tell the pilots flying that plane the very next day or even mention that there was maybe something needing maintenance. Unbelievable.
@@rodrocketis I'm not sure why, but few people seem to understand that MCAS can be switched off like you said. You just have to know about the two switches. Too bad no one told that crew or no one mentioned the need for a maintenance check as you said. Ethiopia and indonesia allow pilots to fly airliners with far less experience and training than America or many other countries. This has nothing to do with race or skin color so it isn't racist to say this. It is a factual observation. This doesn't mean I am letting Boeing off the hook. The governments of Ethiopia and Indonesia are part of the reason those planes crashed along with Boeings irresponsibility.
Of course this has nothing to do with the A380. Got a little side tracked. I haven't heard of the engine incident with Quantas you mentioned.
Have been flying in A-380s since 2013, nice and spacious aircrafts with lots of toilets to accommodate the passengers
Very sad to see this go. I worked for a subcontractor on this airplane during its development in 2003 until Airbus pulled the work from us in 2009. I remember seeing videos on how difficult it was to move the big structures (like the Wings) through the roads in France.
Ironically, A380s are getting something of a comeback. With the aviation market kinda coming back, and a lack of other immediately available and suitable airframes for a variety of reasons, several airlines have turned to mothballed A380s to generate carrying capacity quickly, especially where travel time/distances are more of an issue these days due to the problems with Russian airspace these days. I doubt it's going back into production or anything, but it's definitely getting a second lease of life, and airlines that bought some are likely to be a lot more thankful that they did than they may have thought likely a few years ago
@@talltroll7092 Glad to hear that. Not really sure how many airports have accommodated their jetways to the size of the A380 though but at least knowing that it continues to fly gives that sense of pride in me.
I find failure a bit harsh, the only metric that it failed in was sales. In every other possible way it has been a success. From the tech that was invented, through passenger experience all the way through to improvements to airports in how they handle huge numbers of people off one aircraft this plane has changed the way we travel more than any other in recent times. I also wonder if by the late 30's if the volume of travel hasn't again pushed towards much larger planes and the lessons that airbus learned with this beast will stand them in good stead.
I'm a premium flyer (advantage of doing it a lot) and will always seek out an A380 particularly for long haul. The comfort and quiet is unmatched and I have flown everything currently flying from Airbus, Boeing, Embraer and Bombadier dodgy spelling aside!
It is also inefficient to operate, expensive and tricky to maintain, has no 2nd hand market, and few airports can or want to handle it. It came too late. Also it can't be used as a cargo variant.
only inefficient if you don't have the market to operate. If you can fill it with any mix it makes a fortune, Emirates say so, Qantas did as well. The wrong time is a hard one, a new plane is a decade old by the time it gets to market, so there is an element of luck, I would also say the engine problems of current newer airliners were a contributing factor as to a new NEO version that Emirates was seeking as Rolls Royce stated they couldn't do it which was the smartest thing they have done in a long time!
@@mnewm21 That is the thing, only Emirates can reliably fill it to capacity on a nearly regular basis and only filled to capacity is it cost effective to operate. Even Emirates cut their order substantially and is retiring them early. Airbus helped kill it with the A350 just like Boeing didn't do the 747 any favors with the 777. I agree on the timing and element of luck and RR was smart to say no. I wonder if Emirates would abandon it if the 777x was ready.
@@DaveMiller2 I'd be surprised Tim has acknowledged that he still needs them for trunk routes as he can't offer enough capacity as they are slot constrained at a lot of airports they are there only option for increasing seats into a destination. I can see them reducing numbers but they will still be flying them until the mid 30s unless something drastic happens to change the flying world again. The 350 and 777x will be the dominant long haulers for the next period but again they are talking about another 500mill to 1 billion people flying each year by the 50s our airports are going to choke on smaller planes and that larger plane will be needed again. Only time will tell and in the meantime living in Aus I'll still be using them for my long haul whenever the opportunity arises.
Love the A380. Most comfortable plane I have flown on.
- And I thought Colonel Sanders of KFC fame was dead.
Passengers loved it, so I don't consider it a failure.
I think it is a failure to its producers not passengers. it doesn't bring much profit to to its owners at some cases it actually causes lost in money.
Passengers generally dont like 737s e.g. Ryanairs 737 but it has helped Ryanair to become the second largest airline in Europe. So your logic doesnt make sense
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Plant Seed the A380 is crappy, I do not like it, I prefer the 787 Dreamliner
Adrian Motley thats because you’re an inbred patrotic anus, the a380 is perfect
Watching this after watching Airbus's tribute to the A380 they made after the production was officially ceased. Kinda surreal that such an iconic plane is starting to run out of flight hours.
I flew several times with this big bird and what an experience, love it. It is spacious and comfy.
I just flew it few days ago (5 Dec 2019) from Munich to San Francisco and the plane was _very_ nice to fly in the economy class because it had many empty seats! I slept on three seats, the woman in the next row used four seats, so I can see the problem from the owner's POV. Strangely enough, a small part of the economy class (4 rows + 3 seats in the fifth row) was in the upper deck (this was Lufthansa, I suppose other seating arrangements are possible) so I booked it out of curiosity. Nothing special (no difference with the lower deck which also had empty rows) except the steward's attention was exceptional as he had only this tiny section to worry about. The plane flew quite high, at 12,571 metres, the noise level is quite low, the general impression is competence and smoothness. Too bad it's getting somewhat uneconomical to run.
Had unfortunate delay on our flight from London to Frankfurt (flying Lufthansa) and missed our connecting flight to Bangkok. We ended up missing 2 days of our vacation, but we were rerouted through Qatar airways to Doha then onto Bangkok. It sucked, but it kinda made up for it because we got to hitch a ride from Frankfurt to Doha on the A380. Might be a redundant aircraft due to costs but man that was the most smooth and comfortable flight I’ve ever had. Landing was so smooth, flight felt amazing and there was little engine noise too. Glad I got to experience it at least once,
Me in a 747-400: “Ah so this is what it’s like to be a particle in the large hadron collider”
Me in an A-380: “So when are we gonna take off? Wait, what do you mean 40,000ft…?”
8:55 qantas doesn’t have the 777 in it’s fleet
Just a little mistake
Minor detail .... and worse it has just preferred the Airbus A350 over Boeing 777X for their new Australia / UK service.
A consideration after the 737-8 debacle.
@Deep Space Traveler Oooh you will have the Boeing Fanboy Yanks after you ... but it is true ...Lol
Quantas has 10 747 400's
8:55 Boeing 777 *shows a picture of a 4 engine aircraft*
In the Boeing 777 is a two engine airplane.
@@Star737_yt Qantas also doesn't have a 777 in their fleet.
@@mitchell104 i was going to say that... yes
A340, thank me later...
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It’s probably from their feasibility study on the 777X or their take on the original 777 development, as they assisted with it but never placed an order.
I love flying the A380. I flew from Qatar to London’s and it was nice roomy and comfortable. But I can see the the plane is inefficient. There was so many empty seats!
I flew on the A380 for years. Back and forth from Texas to Australia every few weeks. It's a massive plan! Shame to see it go.
I flown from and to Dubai on LHR DXR route twice. It was amazing and really comfortable flight.
I flew the a380 from sydney to la and it was amazing.
How long did it take you? 😱
@@storyteller4473 its over 24 hours
@@oden4373 Non-stop flight time is around 14 hours. Quickest flight time with a stopover is 16 hours. Longer durations are possible depending upon location of stopover and duration of stopover
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Got to fly twice in economy class with Korean Air from Paris to Seoul. it was one of the best experience in my life. So much comfort, it was mind-blowing.