As a Louisville Fan I Rather See Us Join the Big 12. Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Virginia Tech , Pittsburgh as de facto Big East wing of the Big 12 Makes sense
It does not make DOLLARS though Sherrif. The DOLLARS are in the ACC. Stop following the BS Narrative that is built around looking at the REVENUE ONLY and failing to look at the INCOME Sheriff. The Revenue tells an INCOMPLETE and FALSE Narrative about the ACC. The INCOME tells the TRUTH. Or at least it opens your eyes to the FACT that there is MUCH MORE to SEE that you and almost nobody is seeing about the FUTURE and even the PRESENT of the ACC. Find the INCOME Sheriff. Find it and get back to me. Once you see THAT for YOURSELF you will be ready to BELIEVE the TRUTH that I KNOW. Until then this BS Narrative pushed by this Troll and others seems REAL. But it isn't.
Someone please explain the point in poaching from the ACC?? Is the goal to destroy yet another Power Conference? And why? So we’d be down to 3 ? What’s the end game here? And I’m pretty sure I’m not going to like it.
This is based on a collapsed ACC not poaching, but to answer your question there are schools it the ACC that would add value to the Big12. Louisville, and Mami for example.
@@shawnmorris906 Here’s what I think. College football should completely separate itself from other college sports programs instead of being so disruptive to other sports and to the college kids who play those other sports. College basketball is my thing. And I want college football to keep its dirty paws away from my sport and to stop being the destroyer of conferences and traditions.
@@wiltchamberlainisthegoat13 it that was gonna happen, I still think Louisville would be better off in the Big12. I see your point, and dont necessarily disagree with you. I enjoy both sports personally and football should probably be its own thing.
@@shawnmorris906 The ACC cannot and will not collapse. it is NOT POSSIBLE. If you know the FACTS (and you must not) you know ESPN has already set up the ACC to SUCCEED after this current round of Expansion Rounds finally shakes out.
As untenable as it seems right now I foresee a time when the real big 2 (espn and fox sports) makes a serious move to kick out members of the other big 2 (sec and big10). They are looking for content to prop up viewership. Not knocking anyone but does anyone think they really want a prime time matchup featuring Rutgers vs Vandy? Certainly don’t want to miss that Ole Miss v Indiana clash! The universities have already made it clear that their loyalties have a price tag. Just don’t be shocked if/when it comes to pass
The ACC is a sinking ship. Better get out while the getting is good. Maybe they're still hoping to talk their way into the SEC to better fuel their primary rivalry in all sports, which is Kentucky? They better get dramatically more competitive if they want that to happen, though!
@@Joe-sm9qj Name a single general factor that the BIG12 is superior to the ACC. The new BIG12 is the worst P4 in academics, athletics, prestige, and media value per member.
@@tarheel7406 way better football and basketball. Not even close. Don't even bother. Yeah you're better in soccer, so what? All you have is Florida state and Clemson. No one else. The big 12 has good teams up and down with UCF recent national champs in football and Cincy a playoff member who gave bama 3 tough quarters. TCU was in championship last year, we won two basketball titles in last 4 years and finished runner up in another. Florida state got not respect because they don't play anybody. Boston college? Syracuse? Wake Forest? Duke? Virginia? P-Lease. We also added Utah who was pac 12 champ recently and a traditionally solid BYU team who travels well. Go play NC State on badminton. You can have your tobacco-road rivalry that nobody wtches. Also wvu was largest draw at UT at the time they first played, WVU brought the largest crowd to a Pittsburgh sporting event, ever. WVU drew the largest Iowa women's bb crowd ever.
If we really want to know where the administration at Louisville stands on conference realignment, we just need to look at their vote to dagger Clemson and FSU in the back by approving lawsuits against them. Voting to sue teams trying to leave will make it harder for you to leave when that time comes. To me this means they plan to stay for the long haul.
If I recall correctly, L'VILLE (and PITT) were among the strongest supporters of adding CAL+2. To me that's the strongest evidence of their preference. I'm not reading much in votes related to the litigation, yet. Nevertheless, no more a dagger than FSU/CLEMSON's initiated litigation.
@@tarheel7406 I fail to see how 2 programs leaving that aren’t the keystone programs of the conference amounts to stabbing other programs in the back…… any team that resents another team for seeking other pastures should self reflect on why they feel resentment. They could easily stay and be happy where they are at or if they aren’t happy, join the fight to leave…… simple as that. That is unless Louisville likes making half the money of their in-state rival….
@@Doc_Boots It was you who claimed some ACC members stabbed CLEM/FSU in the back. FSU's unnecessary scorched earth tactics eliminates any standing to complain about any reactions. If FSU can justify such tactics, any legal reaction is similarly justified.
I’ve been a big college sports fan for years, but with all this chaos and greed, I’m really starting to lose interest. After the Power 2 destroy everything around them, we fans of other schools will just stop watching, and that’ll really help your ratings.
@@tarheel7406 Big 12 and ACC. If Football is the money sport, Memphis is, has been and will be better in football than Uconn. And u heard it here first, with "Power" status, recruiting wise Memphis/Tennessee as a region is located in the most talent rich part of the country. Memphis could DEFINITELY compete for the Natty. I say that knowing that in the state, if UM gained power status, Vanderbilt would for certain be the 3rd ranked team in the state behind UM and UT.
@@tarheel7406 UCONN good for football but not Boston College or Syracuse?? UCONN will never even surpass those two schools in football. Remeber this is all about football competitiveness. UCONN better for Big 10 than the ACC or Big 12.
As a Louisville Fan I Rather See Us Join the Big 12. Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Virginia Tech , Pittsburgh as de facto Big East wing of the Big 12 Makes sense
It does not make DOLLARS though Sherrif. The DOLLARS are in the ACC. Stop following the BS Narrative that is built around looking at the REVENUE ONLY and failing to look at the INCOME Sheriff.
The Revenue tells an INCOMPLETE and FALSE Narrative about the ACC. The INCOME tells the TRUTH. Or at least it opens your eyes to the FACT that there is MUCH MORE to SEE that you and almost nobody is seeing about the FUTURE and even the PRESENT of the ACC.
Find the INCOME Sheriff. Find it and get back to me. Once you see THAT for YOURSELF you will be ready to BELIEVE the TRUTH that I KNOW. Until then this BS Narrative pushed by this Troll and others seems REAL. But it isn't.
Someone please explain the point in poaching from the ACC?? Is the goal to destroy yet another Power Conference? And why? So we’d be down to 3 ? What’s the end game here? And I’m pretty sure I’m not going to like it.
This is based on a collapsed ACC not poaching, but to answer your question there are schools it the ACC that would add value to the Big12. Louisville, and Mami for example.
There is no feasible path to a peer P3. For the BIG12 to take a step forward, the SEC/B1G will take 3 steps.
@@shawnmorris906 Here’s what I think. College football should completely separate itself from other college sports programs instead of being so disruptive to other sports and to the college kids who play those other sports. College basketball is my thing. And I want college football to keep its dirty paws away from my sport and to stop being the destroyer of conferences and traditions.
@@wiltchamberlainisthegoat13 it that was gonna happen, I still think Louisville would be better off in the Big12. I see your point, and dont necessarily disagree with you. I enjoy both sports personally and football should probably be its own thing.
@@shawnmorris906 The ACC cannot and will not collapse. it is NOT POSSIBLE. If you know the FACTS (and you must not) you know ESPN has already set up the ACC to SUCCEED after this current round of Expansion Rounds finally shakes out.
As untenable as it seems right now I foresee a time when the real big 2 (espn and fox sports) makes a serious move to kick out members of the other big 2 (sec and big10). They are looking for content to prop up viewership. Not knocking anyone but does anyone think they really want a prime time matchup featuring Rutgers vs Vandy? Certainly don’t want to miss that Ole Miss v Indiana clash! The universities have already made it clear that their loyalties have a price tag. Just don’t be shocked if/when it comes to pass
The ACC is a sinking ship. Better get out while the getting is good. Maybe they're still hoping to talk their way into the SEC to better fuel their primary rivalry in all sports, which is Kentucky? They better get dramatically more competitive if they want that to happen, though!
In context, the BIG12 has already sunk. The question is which resulting Tier 2 conference is better from the perspective of each P5 remainder.
@@tarheel7406 since the big 12 is better than the ACC, you're implying the ACC is sunk too?
@@Joe-sm9qj Name a single general factor that the BIG12 is superior to the ACC. The new BIG12 is the worst P4 in academics, athletics, prestige, and media value per member.
@@tarheel7406 way better football and basketball. Not even close. Don't even bother. Yeah you're better in soccer, so what? All you have is Florida state and Clemson. No one else. The big 12 has good teams up and down with UCF recent national champs in football and Cincy a playoff member who gave bama 3 tough quarters. TCU was in championship last year, we won two basketball titles in last 4 years and finished runner up in another. Florida state got not respect because they don't play anybody. Boston college? Syracuse? Wake Forest? Duke? Virginia? P-Lease. We also added Utah who was pac 12 champ recently and a traditionally solid BYU team who travels well. Go play NC State on badminton. You can have your tobacco-road rivalry that nobody wtches. Also wvu was largest draw at UT at the time they first played, WVU brought the largest crowd to a Pittsburgh sporting event, ever. WVU drew the largest Iowa women's bb crowd ever.
@@tarheel7406 WVU has drawn a few most viewed ESPN games ever, too...
If we really want to know where the administration at Louisville stands on conference realignment, we just need to look at their vote to dagger Clemson and FSU in the back by approving lawsuits against them. Voting to sue teams trying to leave will make it harder for you to leave when that time comes. To me this means they plan to stay for the long haul.
If I recall correctly, L'VILLE (and PITT) were among the strongest supporters of adding CAL+2. To me that's the strongest evidence of their preference. I'm not reading much in votes related to the litigation, yet.
Nevertheless, no more a dagger than FSU/CLEMSON's initiated litigation.
@@tarheel7406 I fail to see how 2 programs leaving that aren’t the keystone programs of the conference amounts to stabbing other programs in the back…… any team that resents another team for seeking other pastures should self reflect on why they feel resentment. They could easily stay and be happy where they are at or if they aren’t happy, join the fight to leave…… simple as that. That is unless Louisville likes making half the money of their in-state rival….
@@Doc_Boots It was you who claimed some ACC members stabbed CLEM/FSU in the back. FSU's unnecessary scorched earth tactics eliminates any standing to complain about any reactions. If FSU can justify such tactics, any legal reaction is similarly justified.
@@tarheel7406 correct. Directly voting to sue a school in particular for wanting to go elsewhere is the stab in the back
@@Doc_Boots And FSU's preceding gratuitous scorched earth tactics is a dagger stab as well. Again, one can't really complain about a counterblow.
Yes. Louisville will become the new tentpole of the ACC.
Which would drop the ACC well beneath the Big 12 in status.
@@ChaseEagleback Delusional. The new BIG12 is already the worst P4 in academics, athletics, prestige and actual media value per member.
@@tarheel7406 not for long. Cope.
@@ChaseEagleback For what do I need to cope?
I would love to see IU and Purdue kicked out of the BIG and Notre Dame added.
Agree, but don't stop there, over half the conference is substandard...Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, northwestern, Illinois, etc
If power 2 call any team will jump ACC or Big12
I’ve been a big college sports fan for years, but with all this chaos and greed, I’m really starting to lose interest. After the Power 2 destroy everything around them, we fans of other schools will just stop watching, and that’ll really help your ratings.
Big12 is the dog under the Power 2’s table waiting for a scrap to fall to them
big ten is neither flashy nor sexy
Memphis>Uconn
For whom?
@@tarheel7406 Big 12 and ACC. If Football is the money sport, Memphis is, has been and will be better in football than Uconn. And u heard it here first, with "Power" status, recruiting wise Memphis/Tennessee as a region is located in the most talent rich part of the country. Memphis could DEFINITELY compete for the Natty. I say that knowing that in the state, if UM gained power status, Vanderbilt would for certain be the 3rd ranked team in the state behind UM and UT.
Nobody will care until the Big 12 gets desperate in about 5 years.
Then it is your time to Crow, Turkey.
@@notyou4456 MEMPHIS is not better than UCONN for the ACC but could be for the BIG12.
@@tarheel7406 UCONN good for football but not Boston College or Syracuse?? UCONN will never even surpass those two schools in football. Remeber this is all about football competitiveness. UCONN better for Big 10 than the ACC or Big 12.