So...a dead hotel! I had a blast producing this episode, and it was a refreshing change in format. You guys want more of this? Let me know. Subscribe, or I'll cry. You don't want me to cry on my birthday, do you? Good, because today is my birthday, and I want you to sub as my present. Kbye.
That is Dirty Pool Sal, asking for subscriptions on your Birthday. Only one without a soul would turn down that offer. Problem is, I subscribed several months ago so now what do I do?
All the empty phone cubbies and unchecked moisture are just unsettling, but that staircase dead-ending on the third floor is creepy. The whole place has so many unexplained dark corners. Very backroomy.
That dripping water in the underground carpark gave me the shivers. It reminds me of the footage taken in the Champlain Towers (Florida) just before it's collapse last year. Glad you made it out alive!
It's 4am and I can't sleep got up to get a drink and there's a video to watch. Does give off dead mall vibes, large building not much money coming etc. Thanks Sal
Great video Sal (as always). Stayed here many times as a kid in the early 90s (while it was a Hilton). It was a terrific (and bustling) place. It's definitely been in a long, slow decline since it's time as the Buffalo Hilton. My understanding is that the alleged renos (and planned branding as a Ramada) have been derailed by the fire (at last check it was still closed). Stinson is pretty infamous in Canada -- hence his seeming de-camping to Buffalo...hopefully things turn around for this place -- but time is passing it by quickly. Amazing to see the standard 1980s era Hilton marble/bathroom fixtures still intact.
Water leaking in the parking garage…the freeze/thaw cycles lack of proper maintenance.. think Surfside My favorite fountain are the long gone fountains at Easpoint mall my childhood mall
Being a local I stayed here with my daughter several years ago for a dance competition. Looks exactly the same, we couldn't wait to get out after a two day stay. But I have to say your a brave man entering the parking garage alone. Parts of Buffalo are definitely not safe.
Cool video, Sal! If Dan Bell ever starts up another season of "Another Dirty Room", you should see if you could go along with him to some hotels/motels. Dan's buddy Rick would have a field day with this place you're at seeing all that mold and water damage. Oof.
Stayed a night here back in September 1998 as part of a bus tour of the northeastern United States and Canada on holiday from Australia - not long after the Buffalo Hilton had changed over to Adam's Mark as we were told at the time. Doesn't seem like the decor has changed that much apart from the removal of the payphones from the booths!
That room adjacent the pool; could it have been a bar? Eighties hotels used to put the bar next to the swimming pool so that you could keep an eye on your kids swimming.
Hey Sal the dirty creepy room just off the pool was probably used for food drink and parties because most places like that would hate for you to eat poolside .
The last place I actually saw what appeared to be functional pay phones was in Marketplace Mall in Rochester - in 2019. There was one little cluster of three in the end of one hallway. Typically this is how motels work. A chain builds one, or a franchisee builds one to the standards of a chain. Then they let it get old. Eventually it falls below the standards of the expensive chain, and is either rebranded to a lower tier chain, or sold off to another brand. This continues until even a Rodeway or Motel 6 isn't interested, at which point it goes independent, or sits empty, or is just demolished. Sometimes they get lucky and get a to the bones redo and return to a higher branding. I've seen independents become Motel 6, and built for Motel 6 become other brands. The Days Inn that was at I90 exit 49, Transit Rd Williamsville they demolished. The Days Inn that was by exit 37 in Syracuse, was gutted, one story removed, became an independent suites, and now is a Holiday Inn. The former Holiday Inn at Exit 38 became a Ramada. And so on and so forth. Hamburg has a Motel 6 that clearly was once a Knights Inn. One recent trend in hotels is to replace the carpets with fake wood plastic floors. If it's been redone in the last five or six years it will probably have that flooring in it. It says a lot about the shape of this one that it has no national branding. That or being in the depressing hell of Buffalo it just doesn't turn enough revenue. Bringing in Ramada is just one step above independent.
the cellphone and modern smartphone are actually incredibly inventions that have probably averted countless disasters, accidents, deaths, injuries, being lost, etc. in the past if you needed to deliver a time sensitive message and there were no payphones around, you were screwed, even then the other person might not be at home. nowadays you pull out a smart phone and the other person also has one on them at all times. my only qualm with the modern smartphone is that it's not really ruggedized and the interface is designed for general everyday use, also information sensitivity. i want a smartphone you can take into the wilderness with gps(not just wifi google map that can fail in remote areas), it'll be smaller than the normal smartphones which are trending towards being thin and long. mine would be thicker for durability and internal resin padding for components, but shorter and wider designed for communication, navigation, survival, etc. i want to combine the smart phone with the gps, wide band radio, other satellite features, with wifi and cell connection, but geared towards communication and navigation not social media, games and other leisure conveniences. my phone will take the original concept of the phone, remove all the fat it has accumulated over the years through consumerism and marketing, and make it the ultimate communication device. if you think about it, that's what the cel phone/smart phone really is and ought to be, a mobile phone. a radio for contact in an emergency. the cellphone/smartphone really should be designed to be thrown into any bag or pocket, or clipped onto your body or belt and be forgotten about until something happens. it shouldn't be something kids are gluing their faces to 24/7. a phone should be an edc tool, not a social media tracking device it has been perverted into
This was a great video Sal! I love how you mention when you were at the top of the escalator that everyone was oblivious to the fact that they were eating under a leaky roof and dirty cloth sails that haven’t been cleaned in 30 years! I think about stuff like that all the time! Definitely got Shining vibes!
Sal this was great. I love your Dead Mall videos, but seeing your take on the hotels you stay in when you travel to do these videos would be a great addition to your already amazing catalog. Great work!!
Gives me vibes of a convention center/resort I stayed at once. The escalator was broken, half the elevators broken, the bar area was busted, and the "arcade" was pathetic. They did have signs up that they were going to overhaul the pool area, but it sounded like they were behind. I'm guessing they were hemorrhaging cash. About 6 years later it became a Margaritaville location.
Another stellar capture of a structure outside of your wheelhouse: a somewhat neglected hostelry. I was impressed with your expressions of hope for Mr. Stimson’s efforts to redeem The Grand; others would’ve focused on the shortcomings and left it at that.
Being local the hotel has always been a dump. Even when it was a Adam’s mark hotel. It was original built as a Hilton hotel in 1978. When NHL player came into town back in the day in the Adam’s mark era to play at key bank center(HSBC center) a lot of teams would stay there and would call it a dump too. Should have stayed at the Marriott at harbor center.
I love that you were in my neck of the woods! My kids used to have dance conventions here. The "ballrooms " weren't that great, you didn't miss much...lol. although it was one of the few places we danced where there was enough room for a boys changing room. 🤷🏼♀️ you're right though, major dead mall vibes and I'm not sure that escalator ever worked! Embarrassing for Buffalo, for sure.....
Sal I got a job offer from here a couple years back, like 2018. It was for an accounting position. The organization seemed too sketchy so I declined the offer they made me. They wouldn't give me straight answers on simple things like work hours or benefits lol.
@@sal we love it here! our biggest issue is accessibility, as i'm a wheelchair user, but i was born and raised in toronto and i just can't help but love living so close to home and downtown buffalo simultaneously. my partner actually works at a [much more modern] hotel out here and found your video fascinating - double thumbs up from our household! if you have any recommendations for wheelchair accessible historic locations in the buffalo-niagara area to explore/tour... i'm listening
I love watching videos of explorers visiting and filming these dead places. Your channel is one of my favorites. Malls are my favorite and have been in a few dead malls myself. A section of my local mall was destroyed by a torando a couple of years ago. It is now in two sections and we don't know when or if it will be rebuilt. The only stores open at the mall is the remaining anchor stores that was not destroyed. It was a very nice mall and it's really sad to see it like this. My favorite fountain would have to be the fountain located in the food court(if it's still there) of the Albany Mall in Albany, GA. It was famous for its many fountains throughout the mall. There are several pics on google of the fountains.
Sal, we’d love to see som backroom comps. Well, speaking for myself anyway. I was maintenance manager of a hotel built in 1972. There were plenty of totally creepy backrooms in the basements. I used to “borrow” a couple bottles of wine and have friends down for “backroom” parties late at night. They were a blast!
The Cranberry Mall is a great one! Amazed it still exists out there in the middle of nowhere. The Southern Tier of NY and Northern Tier of PA are full of great dead malls. Can't wait for that video!
The creepy parking garage with Saint-Saëns softly, distantly playing in the background made my skin lurch. I was expecting some urban legend like BEKs you suddenly appear behind you.
A maintenance person could easily replace those ceiling tiles, but if it's anything like where I work, there's one maintenance person for a couple hundred thousand square feet. It makes it impossible to keep up with ongoing maintenace and repairs when enough emphasis is not placed on maintenance. Deferred maintenance shows gradually and becomes more apparent each passing year, until it becomes overwhelming.
So very 90s interior. I feel like it's a giant Barnes & Noble. I actually see potential in this place for a full reno. Not too far gone yet, but I think it's on the verge of rapid decline if some of the underlying issues aren't addressed very soon like roof & leaking plumbing.
We have one like that in San Antonio down from the River Walk. Sucked! I got a bit dizzy from the carpet pattern walking around all lost. Bonus: A clown convention was booked at the same time. True story.
A 1980s Overlook for sure! It definitely has that feeling that Not All Is Well. It has that Dead 80s Mall vibe, like the Eastfield Mall in Springfield MA. Don't know how that still holds on.
One year I was at Pax Prime in the Seatle Convention center and there was a broken escalator. Some kids about half my age (so teenagers) were walking up the broken escalator and one guy turns to the other and says "Dude, this escalator is on manual mode" and the other guy goes "You mean it's Stairs" I will never forget that moment as long as I live.
I miss the era of neon malls. We still have some grocery stores in my area stuck in that era thankfully, but neon is rare to see in malls these days. The Herberger's footage was great, I never got to see one when they were open. Great job documenting this mall.
This was a great ExLog, Sal! 11:22 I agree 100% about the MAJOR Jack Torrance/Overlook Hotel vibes! I kept hearing the movie intro music in my head. REDRUM 🤭💀😳👀 But when you went into the parking garage I was expecting a puddle to such you in like in Poltergeist 3. 👻
No Marna? Do hotels even have PA systems? If not, they should. It looks like it had a pretty substantial renovation in the mid-90s but hasn't been touched since (at the time you visited). It would be awesome to see someone do the abandoned Hyatt Regency in Dearborn, MI. That's an _AMAZING_ building with a huge atrium that has sat completely empty for over 3 years, I guess there are structural problems with it.
Stinson wants to see the hotel, the problem is the pandemic has caused such a downturn in what little economic comeback downtown Buffalo was seeing that he can’t get anyone to bite.
Buffalo, my old stomping grounds from 1975 to 1981 lived on Delaware avenue a few blocks above Allen St. I remember the Mall, Kleinhans Music Hall, Frank and Teresa's Anchor Bar Buffalo wings. the bars on Chippewa Street, but I'm not familiar with this hotel. Those long, poorly lit hallways are unnerving. Yep, those were the days, with pay phone booths like the ones in the hotel. Personally, I'm not nostalgic like most "Boomers". I like modern stuff.
The Buffalo Hilton opened in June 1980. I know because I worked there at the opening. The windows over the pool were offices. At the time of the opening there was a radio station on that floor. When it opened that large Ballroom area was indoor tennis courts. The dripping water in the garage is coming from the swimming pool. As of March 29, 2024 this hotel is still closed and abandoned.
18:30 they are probably turned off as there is no events going on. It definitely looks like they are trying to save money, so probably turn them off when there are no events scheduled.
I'm afraid this premiere slipped under my radar. This hotel makes me think of an aging movie starlet who can no longer land the A-list rolls she once got.
My fave fountain is the Bellagio in Vegas. Maybe they'll turn the directors suites/rooms/whatever into the "playground". Perhaps the Shining twins will be available to entertain the kiddies.
I'd love to see more backroom videos and things like this. With all the cameras around, I'm surprised you got to get around this hotel so much without being intercepted.
@@NotAJosh My wife is from Hamburg/ Boston , NY just outside of Buffalo . Her father was an executive with AM & A's in Buffalo back in the day . We visited her relatives and went to the Erie County Fair. We stayed in this hotel in 2012 when it was still the Adam's Mark - it was showing signs of wear then. Really sad - it will be leveled before all is said and done.
@@antonfarquar8799 love the Erie county fair! I’m from Niagara county. Small world. Yeah it’s in a sad state. Hope it will be a “grand” hotel again but doubt it. The old AM&A building has some neat history to it. Not sure what happened to but old photos of it and the newer abandoned photos are neat. Lot of history in the city
@@sal In St Louis, there were huge fights about which crime family would control the lucrative long-distance contracts for the airport payphones. People would pay ridiculous per minute fees to these monopolies.
I really enjoyed this video. I worked hotel front desk for 5 years. Our hotel was much smaller but the second floor had a window that looked over the pool, guests would check out the pool from this window. Those cameras on the wall made me paranoid as you walked by. I can smell the carpet in the stairwell from my computer screen; so much liminal space in this archaic labyrinth. Excellent job as always, Thank you!
So...a dead hotel! I had a blast producing this episode, and it was a refreshing change in format. You guys want more of this? Let me know. Subscribe, or I'll cry. You don't want me to cry on my birthday, do you? Good, because today is my birthday, and I want you to sub as my present. Kbye.
Happy birthday 🎈 , cheers
@@QuietJ0Y Thanks!
That is Dirty Pool Sal, asking for subscriptions on your Birthday. Only one without a soul would turn down that offer. Problem is, I subscribed several months ago so now what do I do?
You’ve got me cornered.
Happy day sal and I am really enjoying. Nicely done. Thx.
All the empty phone cubbies and unchecked moisture are just unsettling, but that staircase dead-ending on the third floor is creepy. The whole place has so many unexplained dark corners. Very backroomy.
That dripping water in the underground carpark gave me the shivers. It reminds me of the footage taken in the Champlain Towers (Florida) just before it's collapse last year. Glad you made it out alive!
Glad I'm not the only one who thought about the Florida collapse.
It's 4am and I can't sleep got up to get a drink and there's a video to watch. Does give off dead mall vibes, large building not much money coming etc. Thanks Sal
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Great video Sal (as always). Stayed here many times as a kid in the early 90s (while it was a Hilton). It was a terrific (and bustling) place. It's definitely been in a long, slow decline since it's time as the Buffalo Hilton. My understanding is that the alleged renos (and planned branding as a Ramada) have been derailed by the fire (at last check it was still closed). Stinson is pretty infamous in Canada -- hence his seeming de-camping to Buffalo...hopefully things turn around for this place -- but time is passing it by quickly. Amazing to see the standard 1980s era Hilton marble/bathroom fixtures still intact.
the actor doing the Compu Serve commercial was Paul Hecht
who had been in many stage plays, films and television shows.
Water leaking in the parking garage…the freeze/thaw cycles lack of proper maintenance.. think Surfside
My favorite fountain are the long gone fountains at Easpoint mall my childhood mall
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Being a local I stayed here with my daughter several years ago for a dance competition. Looks exactly the same, we couldn't wait to get out after a two day stay. But I have to say your a brave man entering the parking garage alone. Parts of Buffalo are definitely not safe.
Compared to other cities were Disneyland when it comes to crime.
Cool video, Sal! If Dan Bell ever starts up another season of "Another Dirty Room", you should see if you could go along with him to some hotels/motels.
Dan's buddy Rick would have a field day with this place you're at seeing all that mold and water damage. Oof.
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This intro made me realise how much I miss these great times. I wish I had a time machine and go back to the 80s/early 90s.
Would be cool!
the screw in the hotel window - it's to "stop" people from smoking in the rooms LOL 😛 (former hotel housekeeper)
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Lol we know...
Stayed a night here back in September 1998 as part of a bus tour of the northeastern United States and Canada on holiday from Australia - not long after the Buffalo Hilton had changed over to Adam's Mark as we were told at the time. Doesn't seem like the decor has changed that much apart from the removal of the payphones from the booths!
That room adjacent the pool; could it have been a bar? Eighties hotels used to put the bar next to the swimming pool so that you could keep an eye on your kids swimming.
Smart thought!
Or a party room.
Hey Sal the dirty creepy room just off the pool was probably used for food drink and parties because most places like that would hate for you to eat poolside .
Love your videos Sal, it’s sad that people let these places fall into such a sad state, keep up the great work.
Agreed 🙂👍
Hey Sal,
Love the subject change to dead Hotel’s
Would enjoy more of this type of content.
I would love to see more videos like this!!! Keep up the good work.
Same here! 🙂👍
Backroom videos yes. I'd watch anything you make but that seems right up all of our alley.
I’ll be looking into it…
The last place I actually saw what appeared to be functional pay phones was in Marketplace Mall in Rochester - in 2019. There was one little cluster of three in the end of one hallway.
Typically this is how motels work. A chain builds one, or a franchisee builds one to the standards of a chain. Then they let it get old. Eventually it falls below the standards of the expensive chain, and is either rebranded to a lower tier chain, or sold off to another brand. This continues until even a Rodeway or Motel 6 isn't interested, at which point it goes independent, or sits empty, or is just demolished. Sometimes they get lucky and get a to the bones redo and return to a higher branding. I've seen independents become Motel 6, and built for Motel 6 become other brands. The Days Inn that was at I90 exit 49, Transit Rd Williamsville they demolished. The Days Inn that was by exit 37 in Syracuse, was gutted, one story removed, became an independent suites, and now is a Holiday Inn. The former Holiday Inn at Exit 38 became a Ramada. And so on and so forth. Hamburg has a Motel 6 that clearly was once a Knights Inn.
One recent trend in hotels is to replace the carpets with fake wood plastic floors. If it's been redone in the last five or six years it will probably have that flooring in it.
It says a lot about the shape of this one that it has no national branding. That or being in the depressing hell of Buffalo it just doesn't turn enough revenue. Bringing in Ramada is just one step above independent.
the cellphone and modern smartphone are actually incredibly inventions that have probably averted countless disasters, accidents, deaths, injuries, being lost, etc. in the past if you needed to deliver a time sensitive message and there were no payphones around, you were screwed, even then the other person might not be at home. nowadays you pull out a smart phone and the other person also has one on them at all times. my only qualm with the modern smartphone is that it's not really ruggedized and the interface is designed for general everyday use, also information sensitivity. i want a smartphone you can take into the wilderness with gps(not just wifi google map that can fail in remote areas), it'll be smaller than the normal smartphones which are trending towards being thin and long. mine would be thicker for durability and internal resin padding for components, but shorter and wider designed for communication, navigation, survival, etc. i want to combine the smart phone with the gps, wide band radio, other satellite features, with wifi and cell connection, but geared towards communication and navigation not social media, games and other leisure conveniences. my phone will take the original concept of the phone, remove all the fat it has accumulated over the years through consumerism and marketing, and make it the ultimate communication device. if you think about it, that's what the cel phone/smart phone really is and ought to be, a mobile phone. a radio for contact in an emergency. the cellphone/smartphone really should be designed to be thrown into any bag or pocket, or clipped onto your body or belt and be forgotten about until something happens. it shouldn't be something kids are gluing their faces to 24/7. a phone should be an edc tool, not a social media tracking device it has been perverted into
Now that's a dream hotel, such a classic, very great video, man.
This was a great video Sal! I love how you mention when you were at the top of the escalator that everyone was oblivious to the fact that they were eating under a leaky roof and dirty cloth sails that haven’t been cleaned in 30 years! I think about stuff like that all the time! Definitely got Shining vibes!
I agree! 👍👍
Loved this vlog! Maybe even more than the dead malls? Would enjoy if you did more dead or abandoned buildngs. Thank you!
I commend Sal's courage for eating and drinking at their restaurant. I couldn't have done it, but that's just me.
The voices in the intro tho 😳 This hotel really was giving both The Shining and Backrooms vibes! I subscribed for the malls, but loved this video!
Sal this was great. I love your Dead Mall videos, but seeing your take on the hotels you stay in when you travel to do these videos would be a great addition to your already amazing catalog. Great work!!
The old ADAMS Mark Hotel. Ot of times when conventions & when the Junior all star games come to buffalo this hotel is packed !
Gives me vibes of a convention center/resort I stayed at once. The escalator was broken, half the elevators broken, the bar area was busted, and the "arcade" was pathetic. They did have signs up that they were going to overhaul the pool area, but it sounded like they were behind. I'm guessing they were hemorrhaging cash. About 6 years later it became a Margaritaville location.
Tequila fixes all deficiencies!
Another stellar capture of a structure outside of your wheelhouse: a somewhat neglected hostelry. I was impressed with your expressions of hope for Mr. Stimson’s efforts to redeem The Grand; others would’ve focused on the shortcomings and left it at that.
The Shining Vibes !...lol !! Then YOU said the same when I was watching !!!lol !!!
I live in WA state now but grew up in Buffalo/Niagara Falls area so I have enjoyed this series.
Being local the hotel has always been a dump. Even when it was a Adam’s mark hotel. It was original built as a Hilton hotel in 1978. When NHL player came into town back in the day in the Adam’s mark era to play at key bank center(HSBC center) a lot of teams would stay there and would call it a dump too. Should have stayed at the Marriott at harbor center.
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Think him staying here is the point . To show how it's dead & a new one needs to be built. It's a great location
I love that you were in my neck of the woods! My kids used to have dance conventions here. The "ballrooms " weren't that great, you didn't miss much...lol. although it was one of the few places we danced where there was enough room for a boys changing room. 🤷🏼♀️ you're right though, major dead mall vibes and I'm not sure that escalator ever worked! Embarrassing for Buffalo, for sure.....
Sal I got a job offer from here a couple years back, like 2018. It was for an accounting position. The organization seemed too sketchy so I declined the offer they made me. They wouldn't give me straight answers on simple things like work hours or benefits lol.
Glad you dodged the bullet!!
Haha me too! I live downtown so if you ever need a tour let me know!
Hey thanks!!
Thanks Sal! Another great tour
Rob... agreed! 🙂👍
My favorite fountain is the Swan Fountain in Logan Circle in Philadelphia - halfway between the city hall and the art museum.
this hotel reminds me of this Red Lion hotel in Cromwell CT, its closed down now but the place was a moldy dump
my partner and i just moved to buffalo from the city, thanks for this interesting peak into our new locale
Buffalo rocks!!!
@@sal we love it here! our biggest issue is accessibility, as i'm a wheelchair user, but i was born and raised in toronto and i just can't help but love living so close to home and downtown buffalo simultaneously. my partner actually works at a [much more modern] hotel out here and found your video fascinating - double thumbs up from our household!
if you have any recommendations for wheelchair accessible historic locations in the buffalo-niagara area to explore/tour... i'm listening
I'd love to see this place as it was in this video. Great abandoned vibes.
Yes, same here! 🙂👍
Awesome as always! It too reminds me of The Shining, you are brave to have stayed there!
I love watching videos of explorers visiting and filming these dead places. Your channel is one of my favorites. Malls are my favorite and have been in a few dead malls myself. A section of my local mall was destroyed by a torando a couple of years ago. It is now in two sections and we don't know when or if it will be rebuilt. The only stores open at the mall is the remaining anchor stores that was not destroyed. It was a very nice mall and it's really sad to see it like this. My favorite fountain would have to be the fountain located in the food court(if it's still there) of the Albany Mall in Albany, GA. It was famous for its many fountains throughout the mall. There are several pics on google of the fountains.
Same here 🙂👍
Sal, we’d love to see som backroom comps. Well, speaking for myself anyway. I was maintenance manager of a hotel built in 1972. There were plenty of totally creepy backrooms in the basements. I used to “borrow” a couple bottles of wine and have friends down for “backroom” parties late at night. They were a blast!
The Cranberry Mall is a great one! Amazed it still exists out there in the middle of nowhere. The Southern Tier of NY and Northern Tier of PA are full of great dead malls. Can't wait for that video!
really enjoy these videos. Another one well done.
The creepy parking garage with Saint-Saëns softly, distantly playing in the background made my skin lurch. I was expecting some urban legend like BEKs you suddenly appear behind you.
Good ears 🙂
@@sal My music teachers and conductors all thank you. I play the flute.
Fantastic! I got my masters in violin performance
A maintenance person could easily replace those ceiling tiles, but if it's anything like where I work, there's one maintenance person for a couple hundred thousand square feet. It makes it impossible to keep up with ongoing maintenace and repairs when enough emphasis is not placed on maintenance. Deferred maintenance shows gradually and becomes more apparent each passing year, until it becomes overwhelming.
So many cool shots in this one. ❤️💅
Yes!! 🙂👍👍
I love hotels, so I absolutely enjoyed this!
Nice departure- more please!
That phone# on the commercial is the hottest talk line available. Lol
I am from buffalo ny, never been inside this hotel, but just watching this video I get haunted hotel vibes 100%
So very 90s interior. I feel like it's a giant Barnes & Noble. I actually see potential in this place for a full reno. Not too far gone yet, but I think it's on the verge of rapid decline if some of the underlying issues aren't addressed very soon like roof & leaking plumbing.
Great video, Sal! You never fail to impress! I love your mall videos, but this hotel one hit the spot. You kick ass!! 💗🐶 Sammy-Joy-Jeff-Patricia
The hidden playground is the hotel because it's a maze of architecture we really don't use today
This is truth.
Yeah, "Here you go kids... go get lost". 🤣 Perfect for deadbeat parents who have to drag their kids on trips.
We have one like that in San Antonio down from the River Walk. Sucked! I got a bit dizzy from the carpet pattern walking around all lost. Bonus: A clown convention was booked at the same time. True story.
A 1980s Overlook for sure! It definitely has that feeling that Not All Is Well. It has that Dead 80s Mall vibe, like the Eastfield Mall in Springfield MA. Don't know how that still holds on.
Both you and Ace are amazing explorers I am subscribed to his channel as well excellent job guys nice job on this
I was getting the Shining vibes too! So creepy! The parking garage gave me uneasy vibes, too!
Now, you know why I say Buffalo is where dreams go to die!
I was getting ghost hunter/creepy hunting vibes with this too along with dead mall vibes… could definitely be haunted too 😂
Probably is... 🙂
One year I was at Pax Prime in the Seatle Convention center and there was a broken escalator. Some kids about half my age (so teenagers) were walking up the broken escalator and one guy turns to the other and says "Dude, this escalator is on manual mode" and the other guy goes "You mean it's Stairs" I will never forget that moment as long as I live.
I miss the era of neon malls. We still have some grocery stores in my area stuck in that era thankfully, but neon is rare to see in malls these days. The Herberger's footage was great, I never got to see one when they were open. Great job documenting this mall.
This was a great ExLog, Sal! 11:22 I agree 100% about the MAJOR Jack Torrance/Overlook Hotel vibes! I kept hearing the movie intro music in my head. REDRUM 🤭💀😳👀 But when you went into the parking garage I was expecting a puddle to such you in like in Poltergeist 3. 👻
Happy birthday, I enjoyed this tour 🤗
No Marna? Do hotels even have PA systems? If not, they should. It looks like it had a pretty substantial renovation in the mid-90s but hasn't been touched since (at the time you visited).
It would be awesome to see someone do the abandoned Hyatt Regency in Dearborn, MI. That's an _AMAZING_ building with a huge atrium that has sat completely empty for over 3 years, I guess there are structural problems with it.
11:20 - I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING TOO!!!
Awesome, This was Great 👍
I’m so glad you’re sticking with me :)
Nice spinoff so far. Keep it up.
Hi Sal, hope your doing ok 👍👍🤘🤘 always enjoying your videos 👍🤘
I stayed in a dated hotel in Boise ID where all the 2nd floor rooms overlooked the pool. It smelled like indoor pool chlorine all night.
be so cool you go back show what this hotel looks like now i hope in the better shape?? now
Yes
Stinson wants to see the hotel, the problem is the pandemic has caused such a downturn in what little economic comeback downtown Buffalo was seeing that he can’t get anyone to bite.
certainly a grand site for a horror shocker movie :)
What is a «backroom»?
Buffalo, my old stomping grounds from 1975 to 1981 lived on Delaware avenue a few blocks above Allen St. I remember the Mall, Kleinhans Music Hall, Frank and Teresa's Anchor Bar Buffalo wings. the bars on Chippewa Street, but I'm not familiar with this hotel. Those long, poorly lit hallways are unnerving. Yep, those were the days, with pay phone booths like the ones in the hotel.
Personally, I'm not nostalgic like most "Boomers". I like modern stuff.
YES…!! Definitely pursue the back rooms project @sal
The Buffalo Hilton opened in June 1980. I know because I worked there at the opening. The windows over the pool were offices. At the time of the opening there was a radio station on that floor. When it opened that large Ballroom area was indoor tennis courts. The dripping water in the garage is coming from the swimming pool. As of March 29, 2024 this hotel is still closed and abandoned.
…with the swimming pool leaking through the parking structure, it’s likely structurally unsound.
What a beautiful mall. So sad that people do not realize how fun they were.
Is this hotel near the studio of tv channel 7, and I-190?
Rock on Sal!! Keep on kickin it would love to meet up love explorin in port huron mi
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Love it your in my backyard!
Ladies and gentlemen! Let's hear it for COMPUSERVE!!!
I got scratched by a ghost when I stayed here. I’m actually thankful there was a fire because now maybe the spirits can rest easy
18:30 they are probably turned off as there is no events going on. It definitely looks like they are trying to save money, so probably turn them off when there are no events scheduled.
I can smell this place.
I'm afraid this premiere slipped under my radar. This hotel makes me think of an aging movie starlet who can no longer land the A-list rolls she once got.
Back when i still lived in Buffalo 🥲
Yesss I love the vids
Same here 🙂👍
It also used to cost a fortune to call long distance. I can smell the mold.
My fave fountain is the Bellagio in Vegas. Maybe they'll turn the directors suites/rooms/whatever into the "playground". Perhaps the Shining twins will be available to entertain the kiddies.
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Damn you weren't lying when you said spiders follow you everywhere
What a creepy place😮
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I'd love to see more backroom videos and things like this. With all the cameras around, I'm surprised you got to get around this hotel so much without being intercepted.
Just subbed, thx for the show
was this originally the Adams Mark Hotel ?
Yes it was. It was sold a while ago. They claim to be putting money into but there not. It also caught on fire not that long ago too
@@NotAJosh My wife is from Hamburg/ Boston , NY just outside of Buffalo . Her father was an executive with AM & A's in Buffalo back in the day . We visited her relatives and went to the Erie County Fair. We stayed in this hotel in 2012 when it was still the Adam's Mark - it was showing signs of wear then. Really sad - it will be leveled before all is said and done.
@@antonfarquar8799 love the Erie county fair! I’m from Niagara county. Small world. Yeah it’s in a sad state. Hope it will be a “grand” hotel again but doubt it. The old AM&A building has some neat history to it. Not sure what happened to but old photos of it and the newer abandoned photos are neat. Lot of history in the city
I happened to watch this October 30 2023 a lil creepy for Halloween 👻 🎃 👻🎃👻🎃
Iol I stayed there when it was Adam ‘s mark. It was ok back in 08
Run before it collapses like surf side.
The banks of pay phones were actually a revenue source for hotels, airports, etc. Which explains why so much dedicated space.
Ahhh makes sense!
@@sal In St Louis, there were huge fights about which crime family would control the lucrative long-distance contracts for the airport payphones. People would pay ridiculous per minute fees to these monopolies.
Did this used to be called the Statler Hilton in the late 70s ?
No, it isn’t. The Statler is a long neglected classic Hotel. Another dead Hotel.
I really enjoyed this video. I worked hotel front desk for 5 years. Our hotel was much smaller but the second floor had a window that looked over the pool, guests would check out the pool from this window. Those cameras on the wall made me paranoid as you walked by. I can smell the carpet in the stairwell from my computer screen; so much liminal space in this archaic labyrinth. Excellent job as always, Thank you!
The whole back room thing has missed me thus far. Are we talking mall guts?