I was already checking for Wishiwashi, so I checked these two as well. Adding them, the top 6 weakest Pokémon according to this, is: Unown, Smeargle, Wishiwashi, Combee, Spinda, and Kricketune (Luvdisc and Ditto were otherwise the ones on the list). Salandit good stats, and great move pool actually puts it behind Dustox as the best (who Dustox is only there because it had a good ability).
Smeargle has won tournaments and gotten moves (and abilities?) nerfed. Richard should be ashamed for making such baseless claims against the painter puppy.
@@TheChiptideDarkrai’s signature move, Dark Void, was so good as a smeargle move in doubles that it got nerfed! AND DARKRAI HIMSELF NEVER EVEN USED IT!
To be fair, skatch is excellent in competitive but terrible mechanic for most playthroughs. You need to be exposed to the attack you want to copy and survive, which for something like smeargle can be a tall order. And at the end you will have a smeargle with a good attack, rarely worth it in a playthrough.
“Wah wah wah terrible base stats”. Dude…is your bro is the kind of player who only uses a full team of mixed sweepers, all with 4 damaging moves? I’d be stoked to get a smeargle in a playthrough like this. It might not be amazing, but there’s fun to be had trying to plan ahead with what moves will be available to sketch, etc.
Smeargle is unquestioningly the reason Moody was nerfed to not raise evasion. Well, it was the dumbest mechanic in all turn based RPG history but Smeargle helped everyone realize how awful that was to play against.
8:52-9:05 The notes lore goes like this: Richard:Editor's note: This is false. It's really not that hard to figure out. Learn the type chart, idiot Latin:Nostra appropinquat/Ours is drawing near R:I thought I told you, you're gonna have to try harder than that! L:Ego sum amicus/I am a friend R:Wait... who are you? L:*Bird image* R:Hello? R:Are you still there? L:Nimis periculosum/Too dangerous L:Explicabo omnia postca/I will explain everything later As a very wise theorist once said, ""LLOOOORRRREEEEE!"
@@DemiIsNotHere the quote was specifically referring to the comparison of Psychic and Normal, but yeah, we mix in hazards and so many mons would take a hard dive.
One weakness, an immunity, and hits neutrally against everything except ghost (immune), rock, and steel. It is not a bad type by any means... it is just... normal.
Yeah, I realized that after the fact, too. I guess from gen 5 onward they realized that if they give a fully evolved Pokemon horrible base stats, literally nobody’s gonna use it…
@@BJGvideos they aren't in the games anymore but mega beedrill is actually pretty decent, you can get a hell of a sweeper if you switch it into a dying mon (preferably with a slow voltturn or on a status move) and use fell stinger once. that thing has crazy attack and with the 2.5x boost it can rip through the opponent's team if none of them outspeed beedrill
Say what you will about Gen 9, but almost all the fully evolved Pokemon introduced there are pretty decent. If nothing else, lots have neat little gimmicks that sound fun.
Usually when people are discussing the statistically weakest being of them all, Richard is the first person we all think of. I bet it was nice for him to see the spotlight on something else for once 😊
Spoilers... "If my Unown was an "L", it'd be getting boosted experience because that shit belongs to you" is probably the greatest ultranerd burn I've ever heard. This is why I love that we can all hate Richard together hahaha.
I feel like a lot of the Pokémon that are on the list could have been excluded. I mean -Ditto is a powerful Pokémon that doesn’t rely on its stats, it’s stats really don’t matter for it -Shedinja is a strong gimmick Pokémon that can shut down teams if they are unprepared for it -Smeargle has literally won tournaments (RICHARD, YOU ARE WRONG) -Beedrill is cool Likely others could’ve been excluded as well, but you get the point
To be fair, in the context of a Soul Link (which is generally randomized) when you don’t know what Pokémon you’re going to run into at any given time it’s pretty tough, and do you have to put in a lot of effort to make it good. On the other hand, it doesn’t matter how much effort you put into an Unown, it’ll suck no matter what!
@@TheChiptide fair, i have no idea what a soul link actually is. unknown might be more useful than if it has a decent hidden power since unknowns at least passable early on ( until around the 3-4 gym of most games at best )
@alexisdipoalo9443 A soul link is just a nuzlocke that two people play together which are linked. For example, let's say you and I were doing a soul link in Kanto, your Bulbasaur and my Squirtle are linked. We must both use that pokemon regardless of fight and if one dies, so does the other. Many people just have a tendency to randomize their nuzlocke runs, including our good friend here, meaning that you can't really link similar mons of power level and can end up with the Smeargle and Tyranitar linking.
Yeah, smeargle was just too annoying on doubles, it could literaly do EVERYTHING... And even without darkrai move, still can use lovely kiss... But then maybe another move becomes a problem if you remove lovely kiss... Thank god he is not coming back 😊
Nice video, these sorts of spreadsheets are definitely my sort of thing. Personally I would have excluded Shedinja, Ditto and Smeargle due to them having their own special niche gimmicks but its still interesting to see where they land. The early route bugs being here isn't surprising at all, Mawile and Sableye unfortunately don't seem to have much going for them since they lost their mega's either.
I hope this man doesnt truely believe shedinja is garbage, that thing can just straight up invalidate pokemon and certain gyms depending on the gen, its absolutely amazing to get in a nuzlocke.
Defensively, normal is imo now a lot better than psychic. In the modern gens (post steel nerf) dark and ghost are the most spammable offensive types. In that context, a psychic typing feels like a liability defensively, while normal at least has a legitimately useful niche with its ghost immunity
You should rate how strong the pokemon you keep Unown and Smeagle for so you can justify that putting up with a worse pokemon than the other is actually worth it.
Actually, the weakest Pokémon statistically is Wishiwashi in its solo form, with a Base Stat Total of 175, with Sunkern and Blipbug a close second with a BST of 180.
Honestly what's strange is a lot of these pokemon aren't even that bad. Butterfree has compound eyes gen 3 and beyond, which getting that good of a chance on things like sleep powder can be invaluable. Ditto can fill in a team slot with the member of the enemy team allowing flexibility in what you get, and also giving you access to their moveset which can be useful in terms of information. Smeargle is theoretically one of the best pokemon in that you can get combinations of moves that are literally otherwise impossible to have, and which are not intended to interact. The more moves are added to the series, the more busted this gets. Shedinja is immune to damage from like half of damage dealing moves in the game. This list definitely is a lot different in general because non fully evolved mons didn't make it in. Otherwise magikarp or weedle or something would be the obvious choice.
I saw the editors note saying unown is better, it's absolutely not, smeargle gets every move, and has arguably the best Ability ever in moody. unknown doesn't have 1 good thing about it, and that's a fact
Smeargle is so good. Being able to have cheese movesets like spore, lock on, ohko move or by just using stuff like spore to put stuff to sleep with it’s good speed.
Smeargle has a lot of utility. Unown can only attack, with only a single attack, which has about a 1/4 chance of actually being a good attacking type for a given situation and a 1/16 chance or so of having STAB. Smeargle can learn all manner of setup moves - it's not a _great_ attacker or tank, but it's _amazing_ for its support game with a lot of investment. No amount of investment will make Unown good.
Smeargle is so strong in competitive, that you forget the pain in the ass that is to actually built one legally, specially in an adventure. Specially in a nuzlocke cause smeargle is just a suicide lead.
But Giratina is better than Tyranitar, meaning that Richard has more of higher reward pokemon for unown, whereas Richard has to carry around a smeargle for Ttar to die to just a single fighting move
What about coverage moves? I know you mainly gave points for STAB and the sheer number of moves but some mons having a wider movepool consisting of shit like Harden and String Shot isn't going to help it all that much compared to having an attacking move that at least hits a type they're weak to. Butterfree for example has a lot of junk moves like String Shot but Farfetch'd, while having a lower basestat total, at least has Grass and Fighting attacks like Razor Leaf and Close Combat which are more beneficial when fighting the Rock and Steel types that resist both it's stabs. Butterfree by comparison has a higher basetat total but it has no moves to help against Fire types. Obviously I don't think it will make THAT much of a difference but technically Unown, depending on it's hidden power, can at least hit every type in the game and more importantly it can hit the Bug, Dark and Ghost types that threaten it. Not that you'd be relying on that since it's Unown and only gets one move but I'd be curious to know how coverage would factor in. Smeargle has the best support movepool in the game and that's way more valuable than having STAB on every Normal move in the game when Normal's not supereffective against anything and Smeargle's attack is ass.
Hey!!!!! Man with the long hair!!!! I appreciate this video cause I just took two semesters of stats and I've been playing way too much pokemon, but I'd like to see a version of this where you factor into account usage statistics from the NatDex format on Smogon. Many variables in this model are super subjective, but there is an excellent set of data out there already that can tell you which pokemon are used the least on teams (and thus are the worst). Maybe factoring in usage stats could make a better model, I don't want to do the math on it, but you seem like you have too much time on your hands
It’s also important to note that not all types, movepools, and stats are created equal. For example, a pokemon with a lot in one defense stat isn’t usually as valuable as a pokemon a lot in hp. A type that resists very offensive/powerful types like fairy is more valuable than one that resists a primarily defensive type like steel, simply because STAB steel moves will usually be used by pokemon not built to attack. A movepoool with a lot of coverage but a lot of special moves on a physical pokemon isn’t as valuable, but a move pool with little coverage but a lot of utility can do wonders on certain mons. Factoring utility is also very important, a pokemon that learns a lot of utility moves/abilities can do well despite its stats, which is part of why Smeargle was actually a tournament winner for a while.
Awesome stats work done, one critique: Farfetch'd doesn't need to be on the list, since it's no longer fully evolved as of gen 8 with Sirfetch'd, so unfortunately you did waste some time on him, but at least he's decent compared to a lot of other ones there! Also love that Dustox is by this system the strongest 'mon there though, it's such an underrated pokemon
Shedinja and smeargle are great. Baton pass was intially banned because of smeargle enabling crazy strategies. It also has use in vgc. Shedinja has been useful in many generations of ubers due to being one of the very few pokemon that can wall kyoge which has been one of the best ubers ever since its release.
The math you use to calculate statistical ratings is off. For one, defensive tankiness is multiplicative, not additive. And you're not using a speed factor and half-turn calculations for attack rating, and you need to be to get accurate values because a turn of Pokemon is made of two half-turns, and you can act either first or second, which matters. For example: =[Attack]*([Attack]*[Speed Percentile]+315/([Attack]*(1-[Speed Percentile])+315) The +315 is simply for normalization so that the resulting values accurately reflect their relative differences. Oh and I've already done full calcs for statistical strength for every Pokemon through Sword and Shield so far if anyone is curious.
Not that I want to defend Richard, but in the context of a nuzlocke I can see a Smeargle being nearly unusable unless you can force a double battle to teach it the moves you want. Without that, you have to rely on AI opponents using the moves you want instead, and unlike in regular pokemon where you can keep trying risk free or save scum, you have to be really careful to not let smeargle get KOed even once. That said, the fact that smeargle even has the potential to be good automatically makes it better than unown, lol. There's literally zero potential with unown, even when hidden power was buffed in legends arceus to always be super effective it was still weak af.
What gen is the soul link? If it's gen 2 or 3 Unown is still very bad, but probably a bit easier to use given that hidden power is somehow less random than what Pokémon you may end up facing. If it's gen 4 or beyond unown is even worse, since it managed to accidentally get nerfed with the physical/special split, making Hidden Power always special, thus never using its (already pretty bad) physical attack. In reality, Unown effectively has a 262 base stat because of that.
Abilities is also not really well balanced, swarm is conditional, but you might it use it unlike iron fist on ledian. On the other hand, prankster on sableye is worth more than one.
I wonder what it feels like to poke Smeargle's "hat". It's not actually a beret. It's just his body. Flesh and (probably? Hopefully?) fat. So it would be squishy, like a fatty tumor, or a boob. Or is it bone and part of its skull? So it's hard? Could it sprint full-speed at someone with the lil point facing forward and potentially rupture organs? Or is it more like a nipple? Is it an organ? This pokemon haunts me, in other words.
I played through every mainline pokemon game without using any repeats, (aside from starters) but using whatever pokemon I could get earliest while fullfiling HM requirements for the game and also leveling my entire team up evenly. I ended up using quite a few of the pokemon on this list and had to come up with some...creative strategies to beat the games. Unown was a sweeper for Koga, that's all I'll say.
Imo, the best way to teach Smeargle moves is to exploit double battles. Have your pokemon use the attack you want Smeargle to learn then Sketch your own pokemon.
Love how he adds Shedinja in this bunch when we all know the reason why its lower than 400 is because of its base HP And then all this build up and calculations only for him to land on the obvious answer, Unown XD He tricked us all
I wish we could’ve seen a breakout of where each Pokémon ranks in every criteria. Kinda felt like an abrupt ending to the video where it was decided Unown was the worst, so we don’t know if it was close or anything like that. I would’ve loved to see each Pokémon get some discussions rather than gloss over the actual stats being done. Good video regardless, but again I would’ve liked to see the math for each individual Pokémon
I run an unofficial Smogon tier called Do Not Use which is comprised of just the shittiest Pokémon imaginable. The only two fully evolved Pokémon in the tier are Luvdisc and Unown, the latter of which isn't even that good and is outclassed by Ralts as a psychic-type attacker. It sucks. In case anyone was wondering: most of the Pokémon featured in this video would dumpster the tier, including Smeargle :)
I love this! Its a compliment to the complexity of pokemon that we can take a bunch of stuff that absolutely matters a ton in terms of what makes a pokemon viable, standardize it in a way that functionally makes sense, then end up with data that's completely and utterly off base. Its not your fault that the data's wrong, its just that pokemon is so complicated that its almost impossible to take every variable in to account correctly, and when you don't take it in to account, everything falls apart. Unknown is still the worst fully evolved pokemon. It just is, so your data got that answer right. But smeargle is a pokemon that's found niches in competitive ubers at times, so its definitely not the second worst pokemon. To figure out why, lets take a look at this data and the categories. First of all, base stats. Total base stats are a fair category, but when you put in role category, you missed one vital role that Smeargle happens to fill really well: dedicated support. You classified it as a special tank here, which is just so far off base because it runs a focus sash in most battles. So this role score is underestimating Smeargle and any other dedicated support pokemon. Since Smeargle literally only uses its speed stat in most competitive battles, I think it should have a support role score of 75, as counterintuitive as that may be. Ideally, role could somehow be tied in with movepool, as moves could be classified as offensive, defensive, or support oriented? Resistance score is a cool metric, and I don't hate it. I think it still underestimates how game changing wonder guard is though, and probably undervalues immunities in general. Also, to make things even more complicated, I'd argue the value of weaknesses, resistances, and immunites of a pokemon's typing varies depending on the role it fills in battle! Having resistances and a lack of weaknesses is much more valuable for defensive tanks, while immunities aren't as big a deal for these pokemon. Normal, for instance, is a pretty solid typing for a defensive tank because the type only has one weakness. Offensive pokemon, meanwhile, rely significantly more on immunities than defensive pokemon, and are generally more ok with having a lot of weaknesses. For example, ice/rock is probably the worst typing in the game for a defensive pokemon with bulk and low speed, while its an above average to good typing for an offensive pokemon with high speed and attacking stats. Next category is amount of pokemon the mon can hit for super effective damage, which again runs in to the same problem of offensive and defensive roles. Offensive pokemon really care about this, but defensive pokemon care about this score way less. Another score you could have maybe added on is amount of pokemon that resist the STAB combination, because having several of these pokemon around can completely shut down an offensive pokemon. Of the pokemon on this list, Luvdisc and Sabeleye are the only pokemon here that can hit steel types for neutral STAB damage, and that is a not insignificant point that raises them above the rest. This is a serious consideration though, and is usually one of the first things I consider when I'm teambuilding. Coverage moves can also alleviate this issue a bit, and when an offensive pokemon doesn't have coverage moves to get past the types that wall it, that massively hurts its viability. For the movesets, the first thing you wanna consider is, 'are you making this list for competitive or for an in game playthorugh?' By the sounds of it you were doing in game, which admittedly does make Smeargle MUCH, MUCH worse. But then, you'd need to choose the moveset based off the game, and that's another issue in it of itself. Whether a move is good is ALSO highly dependent on a pokemon's base stats and role, and there are some diminishing returns the wider a moveset a pokemon gets. Moves also could get sorted by their rarity, since some pokemon are used specifically for a move that no other pokemon can create. If a better pokemon comes along with said move, then suddenly the fact that the move is on the weaker pokemon gets relatively less important. Now on to ability, and you fully recognize how flawed that calculation is. Sabeleye has prankster, it should be getting a +10 instead of a -10 there, that ability is actually pretty insane (though less good now that dark types are immune to status moves from it). But yeah, abilities are so impactful that they essentially can make or break a pokemon by themselves. There's also the fact that, once again, how good an ability is depends on the type and role of the pokemon using it. Hustle, for instance, is an amazing ability on a pokemon like Durant, but terrible on a pokemon like Togekiss. Pokemon's so complicated, and that's why I love it so much. I absolutely love this series and your attempts to statistically analyze this game. Just also be aware that its probably not gonna give you any meaningful answers unless you are an absolute madman and analyze every little detail. I think you're getting closer though, this analysis looked a lot more accurate than your previous analysis, and I really liked adding in the role score here! There's just so much to this game that your answers still end up fairly meaningless. ps: Ditto is such an outlier in terms of its ability I don't think its even possible to analyze it statistically in the same way as everyone else. Ditto's its own thing. :)
Just a question to the community, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN IN A BATTLE (1V1) TWO OPPOSING POKÉMON HAVING MAGIC BOUNCE USE HAZARDS (like Sticky Webs, Stealth Rocks etc) ON EACH OTHER? WHO WOULD SUCCEED?
Specifically in a 1v1 scenario, the person with the FIRST Magic Bounce is used so the other would get the hazards E.g. Xatu vs Hatterene, Hatterene magically uses Spikes, Xatu bounces Spikes back to Hatterene Now ik you didn't ask this but in a free for all format it works differently, where if there's two magic bouncers on the field and someone uses hazards then everyone gets hazards regardless if they have magic bounce or not
Psychic is a worse type than normal. Psychic hasnt been revelant since gen 1. Normal is actually pretty ok on offense and defense, and bug and ice is worse than both
There's a few issues with this ranking, although you did come to the correct conclusion anyway. Yes, Unknown is undoubtedly the single worst fully evolved Pokémon in the game (in a vacuum.) Your weights are off. Base stats, abilities, and move pool can all make or break a Pokémon *on an individual level,* and weighing one of those factors over the others is arbitrary. Take a look at a Pokémon like Regigias for example. Regigigas has a higher base attack and speed than Rayquaza, but its ability is so insanely awful that it lands in the lowest tier of competitive play, PU. Same goes for Slaking, and to a lesser degree Archeops. In the case of these Pokémon their abilities are actually valued at less than zero. If you just ranked them at zero then they'd end up with an entirely unrepresentative score. Slow start is almost like starting the game with half of both Paralysis and Burn, Regigigas is genuinely worse than most of your listed mons. On the contrary, Ariados was occasionally used in gen 4 Ubers just because it could be used as a counter lead against both choice scarf Darkrai and Deoxys-Speed. Darkrai is forced to either switch out or lock itself into using Dark Pulse due to Insomnia, and Deoxys-Speed is prevented from getting up more than a single layer of entry hazards with Bug Bite + Shadow Sneak. Ariados is able to secure itself a niche in the same tier as Kyogre (BST 670) with it's meagre BST of 400. Was Ariados meta? No, but it wasn't seen as a troll pick either. If you're looking for a far more well documented example of this, look no further than Quagsire. It's been used in both Ubers and OU to great effect, and has *always* been viable somewhere in the meta (to my knowledge.) It has a base stat total of 430 and my boy is still an absolute terror in several metagames thanks to its other factors. Your vulnerabilities/resistances weights are off because their importance is reliant on several other factors and can't be accurately measured in isolation. Resistances are far more important to Pokémon who either have low speed or are specialised as a wall. If a Pokémon has enough speed to go first, resistances and vulnerabilities are less valuable. In other words, glass cannons care less about these things because ideally they don't get hit in the first place. The exception to this rule is Flying/Bug/Ice/Fire because of Stealth Rock, but outside of that one admittedly meta defining move, they care less about taking hits because a lot of the time they're already gonna shatter on impact like glass tends to do. Obviously it's still a factor to them, but it's far less important than having good stab moves/speed/abilities, you can play around weaknesses but it's far harder to play around hitting like a wet noodle or moving like a snail. There's also Multiscale, Thick Fat, and even Levitate which all break the mold. Elektross doesn't care about your puny ground type moves. Your different weights for the move pool-categories are also off. Unless the intent of this video was to measure the worst Pokémon *for a campaign playthrough,* all of those should be weighted the same. I know this was over an argument with your friend, but the title says nothing about this nor do I believe you directly specified in the video itself. Unless this is the case, the comparison was silly from the start because Smeargle has only ever been below OU twice in its entire history. It's an amazing Pokémon and Unknown is irrefutably worse on (almost) every level. Just because it's hard to get Spore on Smeargle doesn't make it any worse unless you're specifically planning on using it for a main game playthrough, and in that case Sketch's potency is directly correlated to early-game wild encounter/trainer battle move-pools, which is game dependant. In some games you'll be given really powerful utility moves early on, and in others not so much. If you can find the right moves early then congratulations, Smeargle is your best friend and a top tier threat. If you somehow can't get any good moves at all, then there's an argument to be made that it's actually worse than Unknown in that particular situation. If Smeargle is limited to moves of 60BP or less, which is possible early in the game, then Unknown outperforms it in terms of offence for at least until Smeargle can get a second sketch. What I'm trying to convey is that although it's technically possible to boil Pokémon down to numbers on a spreadsheet, it's incredibly difficult to do in a vacuum. Metagames over a decade old still occasionally shift. In the case of tiering power is relative to the other Pokémon in and below the tier, and in the case of an in game playthrough power is relative to the NPC teams.
I kid you not I would rather use every Pokémon on this list rather than delcatty I’ve used pyukumuku on a competitive team side note I’ve played competitive Pokémon from 8 to 6 years so I do have some experience in the competitive aspect
Unown is infinitely worse than Smeargle. Smeargle literally gets every move in the game (except Dark Void in Gen 7). Spore, Sticky Web, Geomancy, Quiver Dance, whatever the hell you want as long as you can find a Pokemon to Sketch it from. Its low stats hold it back, definitely, but it has uses. Even in a playthrough context, you can find use for it. Its low stats are slightly less of a hindrance when nothing has EV's or maxed IV's, and if there's a move you really want, it isn't that hard to get it if you go a little out of your way. Since you mentioned Giratina, I know that U-Turn and Choice Scarf are potentially available to you, so you can use those to help set up the move you want. A bit inconvenient, sure, but workable. Also, Sketching a move from a Double Battle partner is a decent option. Unown has worse stats overall than Smeargle and its only move is Hidden Power. While Smeargle is a bit inconvenient to give a decent moveset to, you can make it useful. Unown is little more than a sacrificial lamb. You have a degree of control over Smeargle's moves; with Unown, all you can do is pray that you caught one with a decently strong Hidden Power with a helpful type.
I genuinely don't feel like you can get past the idea that something like a butterfree can do something like poison sleep paralyze etc while unown can... die. It can just die. And psychic is one of the worst defensive types. It sucks against bug. BUG. Which most of these pokemon happen to be.
When I saw Shedinja listed and you started talking about stats, I was concerned about possible bias there. While most Pokemon have six stats, Shedinja really only has three. Of those three, the Speed is very low, so the Physical Sweeper score wouldn't be that great, either. Granted, Shedinja still isn't that great, dying to something that will be on any decent team, but it can also take on several teams on its own (assuming your opponent has no idea what they're doing).
Based on the comments my suspicions were confirmed. This type of statistical analysis ignores the meta. Combining two stats for a score like that just immediately ignores someone like rampardos who will have a score of 230, which, an attack of 115 and speed of 115 is awesome. But not 165 atk and 65 atk
Smeargle scores low by your metrics, but your metrics are unable to account for its sheer versatility. There are many combinations of moves that are useful, but not learned together by any other Pokemon than Smeargle. Sure, he's not going to be sweeping anything, but he's one of the best support Pokemon.
For the people commenting about how good smeargle/shedninja are and how this analysis is busted, I'm pretty sure part of the joke is that is equal parts enjoying/satirizing statistics
Smeargle is very complex in order to fully build, but when its built, it is great. In the context of a Nuzlocke, its not too good especially when you consider the lengths you'll have to go through to get good moves for Smeargle. Unown comes fully built, but it's REALLY bad. In ANY context, it sucks, besides for printing messages in Gen 2, and Gen 4 Ball Capsules for saying colorful messages in big bright letters!
Ok before I watch the rest of this video- Smeargle-Ttar is an awsome pairing wtf. Smeargle can fill whatever niche you need but works best as a utility mon in a lets play. Smeargle is absolutely not a bad mon. Hell, in competitive, Smeargle fucked with the meta so hard Dark Void got nerfed. On the other hand, as much as I love Giratina, Unown is basically a wasted slot, and forcing your SL partner to keep it on the team just to use a legendary is way more of a liability.
Whby not find out what the statistically strongest Pseudo-Legend is? There's only 9 (10 if you count Hisuian Goodra), so this shouldn't take as much time.
Have to put my parts in this from the get your friend has it better a ghost/ dragon and you have to keep and unown yea no way he has smeargle can at least set up and copy moves and better move pool then unown plus you get TTra is a great Pokémon with great weather set up but 4 times weak to fighting plus the fairy weaknesses being dark and rock having so many weaknesses yes he’s gift the better hand in the soul link in my opinion if we’re talking about who has it better or worse carrying weak Pokémon for strong ones Btw giritina hands down one of my top five legendary Pokémon so s/o him for having it on his team
Male combee and salandit should be honorary mentions as they are in their final evolution form
I was already checking for Wishiwashi, so I checked these two as well. Adding them, the top 6 weakest Pokémon according to this, is:
Unown, Smeargle, Wishiwashi, Combee, Spinda, and Kricketune (Luvdisc and Ditto were otherwise the ones on the list).
Salandit good stats, and great move pool actually puts it behind Dustox as the best (who Dustox is only there because it had a good ability).
Blasphemy. Salandit was an S rank "little cup" Pokémon for two generations at least
@@russellw6872I’m surprised Sunkern didn’t make the list
@@russellw6872sunkern?
@@V3Njr.the lowest bst of all pokemon
Smeargle has won tournaments and gotten moves (and abilities?) nerfed. Richard should be ashamed for making such baseless claims against the painter puppy.
He really is a fool, smh
@@TheChiptideDarkrai’s signature move, Dark Void, was so good as a smeargle move in doubles that it got nerfed! AND DARKRAI HIMSELF NEVER EVEN USED IT!
To be fair, skatch is excellent in competitive but terrible mechanic for most playthroughs. You need to be exposed to the attack you want to copy and survive, which for something like smeargle can be a tall order. And at the end you will have a smeargle with a good attack, rarely worth it in a playthrough.
“Wah wah wah terrible base stats”. Dude…is your bro is the kind of player who only uses a full team of mixed sweepers, all with 4 damaging moves?
I’d be stoked to get a smeargle in a playthrough like this. It might not be amazing, but there’s fun to be had trying to plan ahead with what moves will be available to sketch, etc.
Smeargle is unquestioningly the reason Moody was nerfed to not raise evasion. Well, it was the dumbest mechanic in all turn based RPG history but Smeargle helped everyone realize how awful that was to play against.
8:52-9:05 The notes lore goes like this:
Richard:Editor's note: This is false. It's really not that hard to figure out. Learn the type chart, idiot
Latin:Nostra appropinquat/Ours is drawing near
R:I thought I told you, you're gonna have to try harder than that!
L:Ego sum amicus/I am a friend
R:Wait... who are you?
L:*Bird image*
R:Hello?
R:Are you still there?
L:Nimis periculosum/Too dangerous
L:Explicabo omnia postca/I will explain everything later
As a very wise theorist once said, ""LLOOOORRRREEEEE!"
"Nornal is just a worse type." One weakness, an immunity, and almost full neutral on hits landed begs to differ.
Those fliying bugs that die to the touch of rocks on entrance like to differ
@@DemiIsNotHere the quote was specifically referring to the comparison of Psychic and Normal, but yeah, we mix in hazards and so many mons would take a hard dive.
One weakness, an immunity, and hits neutrally against everything except ghost (immune), rock, and steel. It is not a bad type by any means... it is just... normal.
Yeah sorry, I'll take the S/E on fighting over the weakness.
@@JokingThief Man, I'm probably just braindead today, but what do you mean by S/E?
Interesting to note that all of the contenders are from gen 4 and earlier.
Yeah, I realized that after the fact, too. I guess from gen 5 onward they realized that if they give a fully evolved Pokemon horrible base stats, literally nobody’s gonna use it…
@@TheChiptideThough one of the ones you narrowed it down to was Beedrill and that was VERY popular in gen one.
@@BJGvideos they aren't in the games anymore but mega beedrill is actually pretty decent, you can get a hell of a sweeper if you switch it into a dying mon (preferably with a slow voltturn or on a status move) and use fell stinger once. that thing has crazy attack and with the 2.5x boost it can rip through the opponent's team if none of them outspeed beedrill
Say what you will about Gen 9, but almost all the fully evolved Pokemon introduced there are pretty decent. If nothing else, lots have neat little gimmicks that sound fun.
Usually when people are discussing the statistically weakest being of them all, Richard is the first person we all think of. I bet it was nice for him to see the spotlight on something else for once 😊
Hey, he had a solid niche in gen 3 6U, you can't take it away from him.
i’m glad ariados was on that list, if a spider could send me to hell then i would die before a spider even got to me
Spoilers...
"If my Unown was an "L", it'd be getting boosted experience because that shit belongs to you" is probably the greatest ultranerd burn I've ever heard. This is why I love that we can all hate Richard together hahaha.
Not gonna lie, I was pretty proud when I came up with that one
@@TheChiptide thats some brotherly love if i've ever heard it
@@TheChiptide not gonna lie it took me a while to get it
The funniest use of "skill issue" I've ever heard.
Where’s the lie?
The latin popping up whilst he talks about Unown being bad translates to 'We approach' and 'I am a friend'
It later says “too dangerous” and “I will explain later”
I feel like a lot of the Pokémon that are on the list could have been excluded. I mean
-Ditto is a powerful Pokémon that doesn’t rely on its stats, it’s stats really don’t matter for it
-Shedinja is a strong gimmick Pokémon that can shut down teams if they are unprepared for it
-Smeargle has literally won tournaments (RICHARD, YOU ARE WRONG)
-Beedrill is cool
Likely others could’ve been excluded as well, but you get the point
Smergale isn't even that bad, just requires a massive amount of knowledge of moves and what pokemon has what to be useful in a letsplay is all
To be fair, in the context of a Soul Link (which is generally randomized) when you don’t know what Pokémon you’re going to run into at any given time it’s pretty tough, and do you have to put in a lot of effort to make it good. On the other hand, it doesn’t matter how much effort you put into an Unown, it’ll suck no matter what!
@@TheChiptide fair, i have no idea what a soul link actually is. unknown might be more useful than if it has a decent hidden power since unknowns at least passable early on ( until around the 3-4 gym of most games at best )
@alexisdipoalo9443 A soul link is just a nuzlocke that two people play together which are linked. For example, let's say you and I were doing a soul link in Kanto, your Bulbasaur and my Squirtle are linked. We must both use that pokemon regardless of fight and if one dies, so does the other. Many people just have a tendency to randomize their nuzlocke runs, including our good friend here, meaning that you can't really link similar mons of power level and can end up with the Smeargle and Tyranitar linking.
Yeah, smeargle was just too annoying on doubles, it could literaly do EVERYTHING... And even without darkrai move, still can use lovely kiss... But then maybe another move becomes a problem if you remove lovely kiss...
Thank god he is not coming back 😊
Nice video, these sorts of spreadsheets are definitely my sort of thing.
Personally I would have excluded Shedinja, Ditto and Smeargle due to them having their own special niche gimmicks but its still interesting to see where they land.
The early route bugs being here isn't surprising at all, Mawile and Sableye unfortunately don't seem to have much going for them since they lost their mega's either.
Smeargle is by no means a weak Pokèmon, it's been invaluable in vgc for years.
That's what I've been telling him, dude! Richard's literally insane
Smeargle singlehandedly caused Dark void to be worse than hypnosis.
BRUH, THAT "F*CK YOU RICHARD" UNOWN SPELLING IS HILARIOUS
I hope this man doesnt truely believe shedinja is garbage, that thing can just straight up invalidate pokemon and certain gyms depending on the gen, its absolutely amazing to get in a nuzlocke.
deoxys gets hard countered by shedinja in oras
Defensively, normal is imo now a lot better than psychic. In the modern gens (post steel nerf) dark and ghost are the most spammable offensive types. In that context, a psychic typing feels like a liability defensively, while normal at least has a legitimately useful niche with its ghost immunity
And then Farigiraf is out here just INSULTING Ghost/Grass combos with Sap Sipper Normal/Psychic, like a BAWS
Smeargle has won VGC Worlds, it isn't bad in the slightest, I did get nerfed when they made it so it couldn't use Dark Void though.
You should rate how strong the pokemon you keep Unown and Smeagle for so you can justify that putting up with a worse pokemon than the other is actually worth it.
Actually, the weakest Pokémon statistically is Wishiwashi in its solo form, with a Base Stat Total of 175, with Sunkern and Blipbug a close second with a BST of 180.
8:55 If anyone wants to know, the red dialogue in Latin means:
-Ours approaches
-I am a friend
-I will explain everything later
Sableye with prankster: 😭😭😭😭😭
Honestly what's strange is a lot of these pokemon aren't even that bad. Butterfree has compound eyes gen 3 and beyond, which getting that good of a chance on things like sleep powder can be invaluable. Ditto can fill in a team slot with the member of the enemy team allowing flexibility in what you get, and also giving you access to their moveset which can be useful in terms of information. Smeargle is theoretically one of the best pokemon in that you can get combinations of moves that are literally otherwise impossible to have, and which are not intended to interact. The more moves are added to the series, the more busted this gets. Shedinja is immune to damage from like half of damage dealing moves in the game.
This list definitely is a lot different in general because non fully evolved mons didn't make it in. Otherwise magikarp or weedle or something would be the obvious choice.
I saw the editors note saying unown is better, it's absolutely not, smeargle gets every move, and has arguably the best Ability ever in moody. unknown doesn't have 1 good thing about it, and that's a fact
Smeargle is so good. Being able to have cheese movesets like spore, lock on, ohko move or by just using stuff like spore to put stuff to sleep with it’s good speed.
Smeargle has a lot of utility. Unown can only attack, with only a single attack, which has about a 1/4 chance of actually being a good attacking type for a given situation and a 1/16 chance or so of having STAB. Smeargle can learn all manner of setup moves - it's not a _great_ attacker or tank, but it's _amazing_ for its support game with a lot of investment. No amount of investment will make Unown good.
Smeargle is so strong in competitive, that you forget the pain in the ass that is to actually built one legally, specially in an adventure. Specially in a nuzlocke cause smeargle is just a suicide lead.
But Giratina is better than Tyranitar, meaning that Richard has more of higher reward pokemon for unown, whereas Richard has to carry around a smeargle for Ttar to die to just a single fighting move
What about coverage moves? I know you mainly gave points for STAB and the sheer number of moves but some mons having a wider movepool consisting of shit like Harden and String Shot isn't going to help it all that much compared to having an attacking move that at least hits a type they're weak to. Butterfree for example has a lot of junk moves like String Shot but Farfetch'd, while having a lower basestat total, at least has Grass and Fighting attacks like Razor Leaf and Close Combat which are more beneficial when fighting the Rock and Steel types that resist both it's stabs. Butterfree by comparison has a higher basetat total but it has no moves to help against Fire types.
Obviously I don't think it will make THAT much of a difference but technically Unown, depending on it's hidden power, can at least hit every type in the game and more importantly it can hit the Bug, Dark and Ghost types that threaten it. Not that you'd be relying on that since it's Unown and only gets one move but I'd be curious to know how coverage would factor in. Smeargle has the best support movepool in the game and that's way more valuable than having STAB on every Normal move in the game when Normal's not supereffective against anything and Smeargle's attack is ass.
Hey!!!!! Man with the long hair!!!! I appreciate this video cause I just took two semesters of stats and I've been playing way too much pokemon, but I'd like to see a version of this where you factor into account usage statistics from the NatDex format on Smogon. Many variables in this model are super subjective, but there is an excellent set of data out there already that can tell you which pokemon are used the least on teams (and thus are the worst). Maybe factoring in usage stats could make a better model, I don't want to do the math on it, but you seem like you have too much time on your hands
It’s also important to note that not all types, movepools, and stats are created equal. For example, a pokemon with a lot in one defense stat isn’t usually as valuable as a pokemon a lot in hp. A type that resists very offensive/powerful types like fairy is more valuable than one that resists a primarily defensive type like steel, simply because STAB steel moves will usually be used by pokemon not built to attack. A movepoool with a lot of coverage but a lot of special moves on a physical pokemon isn’t as valuable, but a move pool with little coverage but a lot of utility can do wonders on certain mons. Factoring utility is also very important, a pokemon that learns a lot of utility moves/abilities can do well despite its stats, which is part of why Smeargle was actually a tournament winner for a while.
Awesome stats work done, one critique: Farfetch'd doesn't need to be on the list, since it's no longer fully evolved as of gen 8 with Sirfetch'd, so unfortunately you did waste some time on him, but at least he's decent compared to a lot of other ones there! Also love that Dustox is by this system the strongest 'mon there though, it's such an underrated pokemon
Still Top Tier content you would expect on a channel with more than 100k subscribers
Maybe one day!
Shedinja and smeargle are great. Baton pass was intially banned because of smeargle enabling crazy strategies. It also has use in vgc. Shedinja has been useful in many generations of ubers due to being one of the very few pokemon that can wall kyoge which has been one of the best ubers ever since its release.
The math you use to calculate statistical ratings is off. For one, defensive tankiness is multiplicative, not additive. And you're not using a speed factor and half-turn calculations for attack rating, and you need to be to get accurate values because a turn of Pokemon is made of two half-turns, and you can act either first or second, which matters.
For example:
=[Attack]*([Attack]*[Speed Percentile]+315/([Attack]*(1-[Speed Percentile])+315)
The +315 is simply for normalization so that the resulting values accurately reflect their relative differences. Oh and I've already done full calcs for statistical strength for every Pokemon through Sword and Shield so far if anyone is curious.
Not that I want to defend Richard, but in the context of a nuzlocke I can see a Smeargle being nearly unusable unless you can force a double battle to teach it the moves you want. Without that, you have to rely on AI opponents using the moves you want instead, and unlike in regular pokemon where you can keep trying risk free or save scum, you have to be really careful to not let smeargle get KOed even once.
That said, the fact that smeargle even has the potential to be good automatically makes it better than unown, lol. There's literally zero potential with unown, even when hidden power was buffed in legends arceus to always be super effective it was still weak af.
It's cool to see that Dustox is the best of the worst. I've always liked that little guy!
What gen is the soul link? If it's gen 2 or 3 Unown is still very bad, but probably a bit easier to use given that hidden power is somehow less random than what Pokémon you may end up facing. If it's gen 4 or beyond unown is even worse, since it managed to accidentally get nerfed with the physical/special split, making Hidden Power always special, thus never using its (already pretty bad) physical attack. In reality, Unown effectively has a 262 base stat because of that.
Resistance score doesnt take much value in inmunities, which are the best atribute to have and heavily twists the final scores.
Abilities is also not really well balanced, swarm is conditional, but you might it use it unlike iron fist on ledian. On the other hand, prankster on sableye is worth more than one.
Farfetch'd got DQ'd since Sirfetch'd is a thing now.
I wonder what it feels like to poke Smeargle's "hat".
It's not actually a beret. It's just his body. Flesh and (probably? Hopefully?) fat. So it would be squishy, like a fatty tumor, or a boob. Or is it bone and part of its skull? So it's hard? Could it sprint full-speed at someone with the lil point facing forward and potentially rupture organs? Or is it more like a nipple?
Is it an organ?
This pokemon haunts me, in other words.
Boosting the interactions to say that misspelling Sableye and Ariados in the list of bad Pokemon is such a Richard thing to do.
He honestly sucks
Bro this came up in my recommended and you definitely need more subs bro. Great production from a Chanel of this size.
“Every Pokémon on this list of 18 sucks”
Shedinja, unfortunately for many Pokémon, does not suck
This guy's sense of humor is so dweeby and that's what makes him so endearing. Never change Chiptide!
I played through every mainline pokemon game without using any repeats, (aside from starters) but using whatever pokemon I could get earliest while fullfiling HM requirements for the game and also leveling my entire team up evenly. I ended up using quite a few of the pokemon on this list and had to come up with some...creative strategies to beat the games. Unown was a sweeper for Koga, that's all I'll say.
Imo, the best way to teach Smeargle moves is to exploit double battles. Have your pokemon use the attack you want Smeargle to learn then Sketch your own pokemon.
Lemme get google translate out so I can keep up lol
Love how he adds Shedinja in this bunch when we all know the reason why its lower than 400 is because of its base HP
And then all this build up and calculations only for him to land on the obvious answer, Unown XD
He tricked us all
Ok that Unown L burn was actually fuckin good tho
Meanwhile: Smeargle has won multiple world championships, while unknown is still useless in the lowest official smog in tier.
I wish we could’ve seen a breakout of where each Pokémon ranks in every criteria. Kinda felt like an abrupt ending to the video where it was decided Unown was the worst, so we don’t know if it was close or anything like that. I would’ve loved to see each Pokémon get some discussions rather than gloss over the actual stats being done. Good video regardless, but again I would’ve liked to see the math for each individual Pokémon
Sableye my goat
(yes he is genuinely mt favourite pokemon ever, hes a little funky guy)
Smeargle can also easily learn moves via double battles
Just use sketch on your own team member 100% success rate
I run an unofficial Smogon tier called Do Not Use which is comprised of just the shittiest Pokémon imaginable. The only two fully evolved Pokémon in the tier are Luvdisc and Unown, the latter of which isn't even that good and is outclassed by Ralts as a psychic-type attacker. It sucks.
In case anyone was wondering: most of the Pokémon featured in this video would dumpster the tier, including Smeargle :)
I love this! Its a compliment to the complexity of pokemon that we can take a bunch of stuff that absolutely matters a ton in terms of what makes a pokemon viable, standardize it in a way that functionally makes sense, then end up with data that's completely and utterly off base. Its not your fault that the data's wrong, its just that pokemon is so complicated that its almost impossible to take every variable in to account correctly, and when you don't take it in to account, everything falls apart.
Unknown is still the worst fully evolved pokemon. It just is, so your data got that answer right. But smeargle is a pokemon that's found niches in competitive ubers at times, so its definitely not the second worst pokemon. To figure out why, lets take a look at this data and the categories.
First of all, base stats. Total base stats are a fair category, but when you put in role category, you missed one vital role that Smeargle happens to fill really well: dedicated support. You classified it as a special tank here, which is just so far off base because it runs a focus sash in most battles. So this role score is underestimating Smeargle and any other dedicated support pokemon. Since Smeargle literally only uses its speed stat in most competitive battles, I think it should have a support role score of 75, as counterintuitive as that may be. Ideally, role could somehow be tied in with movepool, as moves could be classified as offensive, defensive, or support oriented?
Resistance score is a cool metric, and I don't hate it. I think it still underestimates how game changing wonder guard is though, and probably undervalues immunities in general. Also, to make things even more complicated, I'd argue the value of weaknesses, resistances, and immunites of a pokemon's typing varies depending on the role it fills in battle! Having resistances and a lack of weaknesses is much more valuable for defensive tanks, while immunities aren't as big a deal for these pokemon. Normal, for instance, is a pretty solid typing for a defensive tank because the type only has one weakness. Offensive pokemon, meanwhile, rely significantly more on immunities than defensive pokemon, and are generally more ok with having a lot of weaknesses. For example, ice/rock is probably the worst typing in the game for a defensive pokemon with bulk and low speed, while its an above average to good typing for an offensive pokemon with high speed and attacking stats.
Next category is amount of pokemon the mon can hit for super effective damage, which again runs in to the same problem of offensive and defensive roles. Offensive pokemon really care about this, but defensive pokemon care about this score way less. Another score you could have maybe added on is amount of pokemon that resist the STAB combination, because having several of these pokemon around can completely shut down an offensive pokemon. Of the pokemon on this list, Luvdisc and Sabeleye are the only pokemon here that can hit steel types for neutral STAB damage, and that is a not insignificant point that raises them above the rest. This is a serious consideration though, and is usually one of the first things I consider when I'm teambuilding. Coverage moves can also alleviate this issue a bit, and when an offensive pokemon doesn't have coverage moves to get past the types that wall it, that massively hurts its viability.
For the movesets, the first thing you wanna consider is, 'are you making this list for competitive or for an in game playthorugh?' By the sounds of it you were doing in game, which admittedly does make Smeargle MUCH, MUCH worse. But then, you'd need to choose the moveset based off the game, and that's another issue in it of itself. Whether a move is good is ALSO highly dependent on a pokemon's base stats and role, and there are some diminishing returns the wider a moveset a pokemon gets. Moves also could get sorted by their rarity, since some pokemon are used specifically for a move that no other pokemon can create. If a better pokemon comes along with said move, then suddenly the fact that the move is on the weaker pokemon gets relatively less important.
Now on to ability, and you fully recognize how flawed that calculation is. Sabeleye has prankster, it should be getting a +10 instead of a -10 there, that ability is actually pretty insane (though less good now that dark types are immune to status moves from it). But yeah, abilities are so impactful that they essentially can make or break a pokemon by themselves. There's also the fact that, once again, how good an ability is depends on the type and role of the pokemon using it. Hustle, for instance, is an amazing ability on a pokemon like Durant, but terrible on a pokemon like Togekiss.
Pokemon's so complicated, and that's why I love it so much. I absolutely love this series and your attempts to statistically analyze this game. Just also be aware that its probably not gonna give you any meaningful answers unless you are an absolute madman and analyze every little detail.
I think you're getting closer though, this analysis looked a lot more accurate than your previous analysis, and I really liked adding in the role score here! There's just so much to this game that your answers still end up fairly meaningless.
ps: Ditto is such an outlier in terms of its ability I don't think its even possible to analyze it statistically in the same way as everyone else. Ditto's its own thing. :)
Well said, and yes.
Just a question to the community, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WHEN IN A BATTLE (1V1) TWO OPPOSING POKÉMON HAVING MAGIC BOUNCE USE HAZARDS (like Sticky Webs, Stealth Rocks etc) ON EACH OTHER? WHO WOULD SUCCEED?
Specifically in a 1v1 scenario, the person with the FIRST Magic Bounce is used so the other would get the hazards
E.g. Xatu vs Hatterene, Hatterene magically uses Spikes, Xatu bounces Spikes back to Hatterene
Now ik you didn't ask this but in a free for all format it works differently, where if there's two magic bouncers on the field and someone uses hazards then everyone gets hazards regardless if they have magic bounce or not
Psychic is a worse type than normal. Psychic hasnt been revelant since gen 1. Normal is actually pretty ok on offense and defense, and bug and ice is worse than both
First video of yours I've ever seen. Subscribed.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
What Pokémon would be the best to have in real life?
There's a few issues with this ranking, although you did come to the correct conclusion anyway. Yes, Unknown is undoubtedly the single worst fully evolved Pokémon in the game (in a vacuum.)
Your weights are off. Base stats, abilities, and move pool can all make or break a Pokémon *on an individual level,* and weighing one of those factors over the others is arbitrary. Take a look at a Pokémon like Regigias for example. Regigigas has a higher base attack and speed than Rayquaza, but its ability is so insanely awful that it lands in the lowest tier of competitive play, PU. Same goes for Slaking, and to a lesser degree Archeops. In the case of these Pokémon their abilities are actually valued at less than zero. If you just ranked them at zero then they'd end up with an entirely unrepresentative score. Slow start is almost like starting the game with half of both Paralysis and Burn, Regigigas is genuinely worse than most of your listed mons.
On the contrary, Ariados was occasionally used in gen 4 Ubers just because it could be used as a counter lead against both choice scarf Darkrai and Deoxys-Speed. Darkrai is forced to either switch out or lock itself into using Dark Pulse due to Insomnia, and Deoxys-Speed is prevented from getting up more than a single layer of entry hazards with Bug Bite + Shadow Sneak. Ariados is able to secure itself a niche in the same tier as Kyogre (BST 670) with it's meagre BST of 400.
Was Ariados meta? No, but it wasn't seen as a troll pick either. If you're looking for a far more well documented example of this, look no further than Quagsire. It's been used in both Ubers and OU to great effect, and has *always* been viable somewhere in the meta (to my knowledge.) It has a base stat total of 430 and my boy is still an absolute terror in several metagames thanks to its other factors.
Your vulnerabilities/resistances weights are off because their importance is reliant on several other factors and can't be accurately measured in isolation. Resistances are far more important to Pokémon who either have low speed or are specialised as a wall. If a Pokémon has enough speed to go first, resistances and vulnerabilities are less valuable. In other words, glass cannons care less about these things because ideally they don't get hit in the first place. The exception to this rule is Flying/Bug/Ice/Fire because of Stealth Rock, but outside of that one admittedly meta defining move, they care less about taking hits because a lot of the time they're already gonna shatter on impact like glass tends to do. Obviously it's still a factor to them, but it's far less important than having good stab moves/speed/abilities, you can play around weaknesses but it's far harder to play around hitting like a wet noodle or moving like a snail. There's also Multiscale, Thick Fat, and even Levitate which all break the mold. Elektross doesn't care about your puny ground type moves.
Your different weights for the move pool-categories are also off. Unless the intent of this video was to measure the worst Pokémon *for a campaign playthrough,* all of those should be weighted the same. I know this was over an argument with your friend, but the title says nothing about this nor do I believe you directly specified in the video itself. Unless this is the case, the comparison was silly from the start because Smeargle has only ever been below OU twice in its entire history. It's an amazing Pokémon and Unknown is irrefutably worse on (almost) every level.
Just because it's hard to get Spore on Smeargle doesn't make it any worse unless you're specifically planning on using it for a main game playthrough, and in that case Sketch's potency is directly correlated to early-game wild encounter/trainer battle move-pools, which is game dependant. In some games you'll be given really powerful utility moves early on, and in others not so much. If you can find the right moves early then congratulations, Smeargle is your best friend and a top tier threat. If you somehow can't get any good moves at all, then there's an argument to be made that it's actually worse than Unknown in that particular situation. If Smeargle is limited to moves of 60BP or less, which is possible early in the game, then Unknown outperforms it in terms of offence for at least until Smeargle can get a second sketch.
What I'm trying to convey is that although it's technically possible to boil Pokémon down to numbers on a spreadsheet, it's incredibly difficult to do in a vacuum. Metagames over a decade old still occasionally shift. In the case of tiering power is relative to the other Pokémon in and below the tier, and in the case of an in game playthrough power is relative to the NPC teams.
I kid you not I would rather use every Pokémon on this list rather than delcatty I’ve used pyukumuku on a competitive team side note I’ve played competitive Pokémon from 8 to 6 years so I do have some experience in the competitive aspect
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"Magicarp used splash!"
Would smergle have been worse with out that 100 point boost to “other moves”??
Unown is infinitely worse than Smeargle.
Smeargle literally gets every move in the game (except Dark Void in Gen 7). Spore, Sticky Web, Geomancy, Quiver Dance, whatever the hell you want as long as you can find a Pokemon to Sketch it from. Its low stats hold it back, definitely, but it has uses. Even in a playthrough context, you can find use for it. Its low stats are slightly less of a hindrance when nothing has EV's or maxed IV's, and if there's a move you really want, it isn't that hard to get it if you go a little out of your way. Since you mentioned Giratina, I know that U-Turn and Choice Scarf are potentially available to you, so you can use those to help set up the move you want. A bit inconvenient, sure, but workable. Also, Sketching a move from a Double Battle partner is a decent option.
Unown has worse stats overall than Smeargle and its only move is Hidden Power. While Smeargle is a bit inconvenient to give a decent moveset to, you can make it useful. Unown is little more than a sacrificial lamb. You have a degree of control over Smeargle's moves; with Unown, all you can do is pray that you caught one with a decently strong Hidden Power with a helpful type.
Unown.
I genuinely don't feel like you can get past the idea that something like a butterfree can do something like poison sleep paralyze etc while unown can... die. It can just die. And psychic is one of the worst defensive types. It sucks against bug. BUG. Which most of these pokemon happen to be.
Wait can you do this but for good pokemon
When I saw Shedinja listed and you started talking about stats, I was concerned about possible bias there. While most Pokemon have six stats, Shedinja really only has three. Of those three, the Speed is very low, so the Physical Sweeper score wouldn't be that great, either. Granted, Shedinja still isn't that great, dying to something that will be on any decent team, but it can also take on several teams on its own (assuming your opponent has no idea what they're doing).
Before watching vid.
Male Combee, Ledian, Shuckle, Delcatty, Luvdisc, etc.
Based on the comments my suspicions were confirmed. This type of statistical analysis ignores the meta. Combining two stats for a score like that just immediately ignores someone like rampardos who will have a score of 230, which, an attack of 115 and speed of 115 is awesome. But not 165 atk and 65 atk
Tbh I really thought it was gonna be delibird
I love Smeargle, it's a shame some of the coolest pokemon just suck.
Smeargle scores low by your metrics, but your metrics are unable to account for its sheer versatility. There are many combinations of moves that are useful, but not learned together by any other Pokemon than Smeargle. Sure, he's not going to be sweeping anything, but he's one of the best support Pokemon.
Biased because I love Unown but it's way more silly so it's automatically better
Subbed. Good job dude
For the people commenting about how good smeargle/shedninja are and how this analysis is busted, I'm pretty sure part of the joke is that is equal parts enjoying/satirizing statistics
Before seeing the video, I'm going to say sunkern
Let's see how wrong I am
choice specs hidden power physic unknown is amazing
Smeargle is very complex in order to fully build, but when its built, it is great. In the context of a Nuzlocke, its not too good especially when you consider the lengths you'll have to go through to get good moves for Smeargle.
Unown comes fully built, but it's REALLY bad. In ANY context, it sucks, besides for printing messages in Gen 2, and Gen 4 Ball Capsules for saying colorful messages in big bright letters!
Still confused how you don't have more subs
I did a Richard solo in gen 3 and failed 😅😅😅😅
Me personally it PLA Magicarp it only knows Splash
This was a great video! Deserves more views
Ok before I watch the rest of this video- Smeargle-Ttar is an awsome pairing wtf. Smeargle can fill whatever niche you need but works best as a utility mon in a lets play. Smeargle is absolutely not a bad mon. Hell, in competitive, Smeargle fucked with the meta so hard Dark Void got nerfed. On the other hand, as much as I love Giratina, Unown is basically a wasted slot, and forcing your SL partner to keep it on the team just to use a legendary is way more of a liability.
Whby not find out what the statistically strongest Pseudo-Legend is? There's only 9 (10 if you count Hisuian Goodra), so this shouldn't take as much time.
Can I ask what is up with the random Latin, it's 3am and it's written in red. Obama wouldn't approve
Smeargle is really good.
Have to put my parts in this from the get your friend has it better a ghost/ dragon and you have to keep and unown yea no way he has smeargle can at least set up and copy moves and better move pool then unown plus you get TTra is a great Pokémon with great weather set up but 4 times weak to fighting plus the fairy weaknesses being dark and rock having so many weaknesses yes he’s gift the better hand in the soul link in my opinion if we’re talking about who has it better or worse carrying weak Pokémon for strong ones Btw giritina hands down one of my top five legendary Pokémon so s/o him for having it on his team
Smeargle is not bad at all. Its one of the most OP pokemon ever
Magikarp from legends arceus because it literally can’t do anything
You've just earned a new subscriber, really entertaining and fun content you make dude! Keep it up!
Smeargle is broken tho
For the algorithm
if bro cant use smeargle he bad at the game. smeargle has actual bans in comp lmao.
So you gave Smeargle 100 in other moves. With weights, that’s .07 to final score, and Unown didn’t lose by that much. Smeargle is the weakest
Smeargle has literally had the metagame REDESIGNED around it because of how broken it can be. Unown is by far the shittiest.
bro is putting weird latin red text in his video about bad pokemon. Strange place to make an ARG but ok.
For the algorithm 😊
unown. as boring of an answer it is, it is truly useless
Rare Richard L