Alpha Primus - The Psuedo Primarch - An Emperor Clone?

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  • Alpha Primus is one of the most powerful characters within the 40k setting.
    In this video I hope to shed light on who he is, as well as who he could be.
    Don't forget to Like, Comment, and Subscribe to help the channel grow! And let me know your theories on who you think Alpha Primus really is!
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    0:00 Beginning
    1:04 Space Marines Explained
    6:00 Primaris Space Marines Explained
    7:53 Alpha Primus Explained
    13:50 Who is Alpha Primus?
    17:04 Outro
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  • @gregoryking6776
    @gregoryking6776 5 місяців тому +45

    The thumbnail is Cawl standing next to a Scythes of the Emperor primaris marine, sadly we don't have offical artwork of what Alpha primus looks like, he is described to have standard silver/grey unpainted power armor and much larger than a normal primaris marine

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, you are totally right. I used this image as it's the cover of The Great Works, and wanted to have Cawl and an Astartes together in a picture.

  • @RestoreHammer
    @RestoreHammer 5 місяців тому +79

    If Cawl and Bile don't end up working together, I'm gunna be so upset. Just imagine what they could create!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +17

      It's probably a good thing. Alpha Primus doesn't trust Cawl. Maybe he thinks he plans to turn on the Emperor?

    • @Soloong_Gaybowzer
      @Soloong_Gaybowzer 5 місяців тому +9

      @@InquisitorJoshua Bile is the only one who successfully cloned a perfect primarch. Cawl seemingly is trying to clone the emperor. I wonder how the Proteus Protocol would play into this.

    • @lborlet5204
      @lborlet5204 5 місяців тому +11

      It’s gonna happen, remember that in one of the books the emperor told cawl that he would end up doing something that seems counter to the saving of the imperium, but would actually help save it, who better to bring back someone like Ferrus manus than the twin efforts of geniuses

    • @AlphariusOmegon618
      @AlphariusOmegon618 5 місяців тому +4

      No. No, I don't want to, it would horrify me.

    • @zachar40k
      @zachar40k 5 місяців тому

      seeing as Bile ripped primus' gene seed out and threatened to kill him, i dont think him and cawl will be on speaking terms, ever. @@lborlet5204

  • @AnEnglishCheerleader
    @AnEnglishCheerleader 5 місяців тому +54

    I find the theory that he is actually Omegon really interesting, but I guess that is because I'm hoping for more Alpha Legion love.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +8

      I was actually planning to include that in this video, but thought it might go on a bit too long!

    • @AlphariusOmegon618
      @AlphariusOmegon618 5 місяців тому

      shhh shut up

    • @owlsayssouth
      @owlsayssouth 5 місяців тому +2

      Omegon (or a clone of omegon, with omegon just still out there), could work. had that same unpainted armor. the other world cawl just made 20 clones instead of one, which just dillutes the soul.

  • @Alex-pc1hw
    @Alex-pc1hw 5 місяців тому +26

    While I don't personally believe that Alpha Primus is a "clone" of the emperor per se, I think he is an attempt by cawl to somewhat reverse-engineer the emperor's powers by mashing together as many gene-seeds as he dared to. AP's age and powers may indicate that he was initially working on an army of mini-primarchs or big E's before scaling it back to something more realistic.

    • @gobshite99
      @gobshite99 5 місяців тому +2

      Nice idea

    • @zachar40k
      @zachar40k 5 місяців тому +8

      its stated pretty directly by primus himself that hes not, hes simply a space marine that cawl went too far with, i think the closest thing he comes to is cawls attempt to create something like a primarch, he rammed so many gifts into primus that it almost destroyed primus, he lives in permanent agony. But hes still a space marine, with gene seed and the rest, which is shown then bile cuts him open and takes his gene seed.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +3

      I would love to see it go in a direction like this, just to see how far GW is willing to push things.

    • @mwmarvelous
      @mwmarvelous 5 місяців тому +1

      There is no way he is a clone of the emperor

    • @weaselhack
      @weaselhack 5 місяців тому +3

      yeah, this is like what i was trying to get at with my comment too. its an aspiration to create something at that level, but a crude "current day" 40k implementation. impossible to actually achive, for the hands at work are lesser and the knowledge required is lost, but Cawls best effort nonetheless.

  • @Intelligenthumour
    @Intelligenthumour 5 місяців тому +8

    At 4:22 that would have to be melanin instead of melatonin. Melatonin is a hormone related to sleep, melanins are a variety of pigments animals(mostly) use for protection from stuff like UV light.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Yeah, you are completely right, I fully fucked up there!

    • @Intelligenthumour
      @Intelligenthumour 5 місяців тому

      @@InquisitorJoshua All good, they're so similarly named and I see people fuck it up all of the time.

  • @Vohtwomax
    @Vohtwomax 5 місяців тому +2

    278 subs?! Well, 279 now. I can’t wait to watch your channel grow 🎉

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thanks! I'm shocked I even got 10 subs! 😅

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 5 місяців тому +2

    When you mentioned AP's coppery skin, I thought if Lorgar before Magnus, and Lorgar was said to look the nost like The Emperor.

  • @voicesofeorzea6992
    @voicesofeorzea6992 5 місяців тому +19

    Just imagine an a full legion of these guys!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +3

      The Imperium of Man would be insanely over powered. Would be interesting if they pulled this off.

    • @AlphariusOmegon618
      @AlphariusOmegon618 5 місяців тому +6

      tbf there was never any reason for roboute to *not* organize the primaris marines into legions.

  • @griffionwyvrus9063
    @griffionwyvrus9063 5 місяців тому +15

    Hear me out on this theory. It is possible that is it Nykona Sharrowkyn. After all the last time we saw him he put himself in stasis. Imagine when Alpha Primus and Lucius met.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I wanna definitely look into this!

    • @mordeythan1637
      @mordeythan1637 4 місяці тому +1

      Nykona was already a badass. With Primaris upgrade.....just wow level deadly...

  • @melonlordjosh4461
    @melonlordjosh4461 5 місяців тому +8

    Glad to see another lore channel to feed my background listening playlist 😁😁

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +3

      I love listening to Luetin while I paint, so hoping people can do the same with my videos!

  • @hunterchristian8372
    @hunterchristian8372 5 місяців тому +1

    Please keep making more 40k vids. You know exactly how to create atmosphere while telling a good story, and that makes all the difference.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you man! I do still have a lot to learn and improve on, but I am glad to see people are enjoying things so far. Hopefully will have a new video out in a few days!

  • @BabyGlasses486
    @BabyGlasses486 5 місяців тому +2

    Great video! Thoroughly enjoyed it

  • @davidderbyshire8808
    @davidderbyshire8808 5 місяців тому +1

    Super hyped for this channel the quality is fantastic can’t wait to see what’s next!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot! I was worried it was too basic, but glad it has been enjoyed by so many people so soon!

  • @user-so6sx4jc5x
    @user-so6sx4jc5x 5 місяців тому +3

    I personally thinked that alpha primus is primarch like thrashuman wich creat by emperor genetic.

  • @rowie409
    @rowie409 5 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyed this a lot, thanks! Looking foward to more.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hopefully getting another video out by next week!

  • @Finding_Arcadia
    @Finding_Arcadia 5 місяців тому +1

    Very nice, can see the quality and effort you put into this video

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! I can't wait to improve and start upping the quality :)

  • @oliverfawcett8662
    @oliverfawcett8662 5 місяців тому +2

    Love this content, great voice and I like the focus on a individual , please keep it coming mate

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot! I have a lot of anxiety about my voice, so very nice to see people are enjoying it!

  • @johnzotack3652
    @johnzotack3652 5 місяців тому +1

    This was the best video speculating on Primus I have seen so far. We know very little about him and that makes him a great subject to theory craft for sure.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Was hard finding info about him, so really felt like I was forcing the video, but glad people are liking it!

  • @toi_techno
    @toi_techno 5 місяців тому +2

    His heavily scarred face seems to be a nod to the monster in Mary Shelleys Frankenstein

  • @meisamhosseini1605
    @meisamhosseini1605 3 місяці тому +1

    promising channel, i hope once this channel grows you branch out in other setting by doing what "ifs"

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! Glad you liked it, and hope you enjoy much future stuff, whatever I decided to explore!

  • @jfkjkshjpppppppppphsasi8669
    @jfkjkshjpppppppppphsasi8669 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, and good luck with your channel!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! I'm blown away by the reponse so far!

  • @brandonjohnson4540
    @brandonjohnson4540 5 місяців тому +1

    amazing someone actually made a good video about AP thank you!!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! I'm glad you liked it. I have a lot to improve on, but nice to see the first video is well received!

  • @jakehinton732
    @jakehinton732 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey man, this is a badass video! Well done brother i gladly offer up my subscription!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thanks so much man! I hope the next ones are as well received!

  • @secondchance5914
    @secondchance5914 5 місяців тому +1

    I did enjoy this video thanks for hoping

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it! Hope the next ones are received so well!

  • @TryToKevin
    @TryToKevin 5 місяців тому +2

    Chimeric Demi-Primarch
    I will die on this hill!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Honestly, any of these theories are hills worth dying on. This is certainly what makes Alpha Primus so interesting!

  • @darkseidofapokolips9796
    @darkseidofapokolips9796 5 місяців тому +2

    Emperor clone? Knock that heresy off now

  • @BarelyDecentProduction
    @BarelyDecentProduction 5 місяців тому +2

    remember primarch 0? the angel? yeah maybe Cawl found his coffin and did something funny with it

  • @KnifeCursed
    @KnifeCursed 5 місяців тому +1

    Primus seems like a total badass and then loses to Fabulous Bill’s New Woman. New Woman stronk!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      The more badasses fighting each other in 40k the better I say XD

  • @redluke8119
    @redluke8119 5 місяців тому +1

    Good first video I will sub

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you! I hope you enjoy what I bring out in future :)

  • @fanonfrenzy3809
    @fanonfrenzy3809 5 місяців тому +1

    i subbed, i hope we get more.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Can't wait to talk about more of 40k and learn more as I go!

  • @remusventanus5127
    @remusventanus5127 5 місяців тому +1

    Keep em coming buddy

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Hope the next one does this good!

  • @brisko1994
    @brisko1994 5 місяців тому +1

    Was painting. Had to stop because you made me laugh there

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Haha, I'm glad someone was actually painting while listening!

  • @austinkohler5324
    @austinkohler5324 Місяць тому

    Black armor, pale, prefers sneaky. Moves quietly enough for wearing armor, 10k old. Seems to me, all these fit Sharrowkyn, who would have been found with the Magna. Would make sense to me it would be him, since he hasn't re-emerged into the 40k universe

  • @genericscout5408
    @genericscout5408 5 місяців тому +2

    5 tons isn't actually that super powered compared to all the other numbers tossed around. IRL humans could accomplish that as well either during an intense muscle breakage event, or the use of powered tools. What makes a marine special is being able to do that consecutively and with ease.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, you're right, all things considered, moving 5 tons in this Galaxy is barely anything compared to the crazy deats of strength that some things can achieve.
      Though, it doesn't sound like much, 5 tons is anywhere between 4500kg and 5000kg depending on which measurement system is being used.
      The current world record for a Deadlift is by Hafthor Bjornsson who pulled 501kg. The Deadlift is one of the heaviest yet most mechanically efficient lifts a human can perform.
      So even an Astartes struggling to lift a 5000kg Deadlift would still be insanely impressive, however you are definitely right in that they are able to move that amount of weight with ease, consistentlly, and also with a tactical mind set towards a specific outcome.

  • @novexp
    @novexp 3 місяці тому +1

    Woo

  • @timothylyons5686
    @timothylyons5686 5 місяців тому +1

    No foe will best them in battle.
    The Silent King laughs quietly.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I'm very hyped for the Silent King to come forward more as a threat.

  • @wasteyelo1
    @wasteyelo1 5 місяців тому +6

    The marine in the thumbnail image isn't Alpha Primus. Its a primaris marine from Scythes of the Emperor chapter, probably Tetrarch Felix.

    • @brogan1177
      @brogan1177 5 місяців тому +4

      It’s not felix since felix is a ultramarine, not a scythe.
      It’s one of the new scythes of the emperor if I remember correctly. This one’s a primaris marine which the original scythes during the book weren’t iirc.

    • @edwardheppenstall8690
      @edwardheppenstall8690 5 місяців тому +1

      Felix is an ultramarine and wears gravis armour with a boltstorm gauntlet, cape and iron halo

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Yes, you're right, this isn't Alpha Primus. I just wanted to use a picture of Cawl with an Astartes, and the cover to The Great Works was a good filler in my opinion 😊

  • @morallybankrupt1461
    @morallybankrupt1461 5 місяців тому +1

    He used every primarchs gene seeds to reverse engineer the emperor.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I really like this idea. Reverse engineering the Emperor rather than cloning seems somewhat less heretical XD

  • @EternalDaybreak
    @EternalDaybreak 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm curious about something. Assuming that Belisarius Cawl was telling the truth, there should be no reason for Alpha Primus to be feeling pain. However, I have a theory that perhaps Primus feels the pain of his dead brothers who died during the failed creation process that eventually paved the way for his successful creation. This wouldn't be the wildest of theories since he is a powerful psyker. Another possibility is that he has some kind of unique warp-based ability. Or, perhaps Cawl added some traitor gene-seed that belonged to Angron. We know that before he got the Butcher's Nails put in him, Angron could absorb the pain and negative emotions of others. I wouldn't be surprised if Cawl tried to make his own Proto Primarch and you could explain it away that Primus doesn't know how to control this ability which could explain why he still feels pain.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  4 місяці тому +2

      This works very well. Especially with the empath ability of Angron. If some how Primus was linked to his previous brothers that died during the fail creation process it would make sense.
      And thinking back to the Mirror, maybe those 20 Astartes in his place weren't an alternate reality where Cawl made 20 of him, each with their own different gene-father, but instead a representation of all the failed attempts that came before him?

    • @EternalDaybreak
      @EternalDaybreak 4 місяці тому +1

      @@InquisitorJoshua The discussion about the possibility of Cawl creating his own Proto-Primarch or something different altogether is quite fascinating. The idea of him playing God or should i say the Emperor is not entirely impossible, given his knowledge and skills. It is possible that he could be working towards creating a being that is not necessarily a Primarch, but not a Primaris either. Maybe something more akin to a Custodian, given that he is not at the same level as a Primarch, at least not yet. However, this new being could still be a force to be reckoned with, and could possibly even surpass the abilities of any Space Marine or Primaris.
      It is also interesting to consider the gene-seed of this new being. It could have both loyalist and traitor gene-seed, since we know that Cawl is not content with sticking to the status quo. He wants to push his research as far as possible, and creating a being with both loyalist and traitor gene-seed could be just the thing to do that.
      I do wonder, however, if Games Workshop ever plans to elaborate on Primus and reveal more information about this mysterious being. It's possible that this will remain a closely guarded secret.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  4 місяці тому +1

      @@EternalDaybreak I think one of the best attributes of Alpha Primus, is that he is such a blank slate. Almost anything can be done with him, his very creation allows him to go in whatever direction GW want.
      One of the only things he is not, is Xenos. And hell, I wouldn't be shock if Cawl turned around and said he added some alien DNA in there just for the kicks and giggles.

    • @EternalDaybreak
      @EternalDaybreak 4 місяці тому

      @@InquisitorJoshua "You're absolutely right that Alpha Primus has great potential since he isn't restricted to a standard like the Astartes. He's a unique being that could become even more powerful in the future by honing his skills. This gives GW a unique opportunity to use him in any form in the future. Personally, I would like him to remain Loyalist if they are planning on committing to large changes or events for him.
      I do wonder if Cawl intends to make more beings like him. We all know that Cawl is never content with just one of something and will likely create more. Or, perhaps, Alpha Primus was designed in such a way that he can be enhanced even further. This would explain why, so far, there is only one of his kind. It would make sense since Cawl shares the Emperor's original plan of bringing about an age of scientific discovery and a new Golden age where knowledge is available to everyone. Cawl wants to bring about a new era of scientific understanding, and perhaps Alpha Primus is a template for that. If the theories are true and he is around 10,000 years old or somewhere near that point, then he can already live much longer than any Astartes. We know Astartes can get quite old, but if we use Dante as an example (assuming it's not stress and just old age getting to him), then Primus could live much longer. It's quite interesting to speculate about."

  • @weaselhack
    @weaselhack 5 місяців тому

    I think youre on to something with suggesting that AP is inspired by the emperor, but i have to stop short there. yes he has all of the primarch DNA and yes he is constant pain like big E, but while Cawl is just short of a heretech, he is loyal to the omnissiah, and i really doubt his ego would go that far.
    which is NOT to diminish that his ego WOULD go so far as to make a being out of the 20 primarchs seed, note not 18 primarch, and add in a bit of himself. i think he stops short at that level of hubris though, personally.
    Keep up the videos! Love that youre a new 40k channel that isnt an AI voice dipshit! ave imperium!

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Oh yeah, I am defintiely speculating wildly on this topic! XD
      You're right though, Cawl currently just isn't capable of making an Emperor Clone, I still fully believe he would try, and has probably considered it on several occasions, but he is likely a long way off actually trying.
      All the same, it would be very interesting to see what his goal with Alpha Primus is. I currently like the idea of him trying to make a new body for The Emperor, though when or how they would try to bring that into the story is anyones guess.
      Honestly, I like the fact that The Emperor is a mystery. Bringing him into the setting at full power again would mean huge changes.

  • @chale2090
    @chale2090 5 місяців тому +1

    It makes sense cuz where else would cawl get the other 2 geneseeds in the mirror world of what COULD have happened

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      This is one of the most amazing parts. How did he get a hold of the 2 missing Primarch gene-seeds?

  • @0la_N0rdman
    @0la_N0rdman 5 місяців тому +1

    The only thing that matters is that he is Cawl' son :,)

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      40k has some very rare moments of an expression of love, and this is one of the top ones 🥹

  • @cordellej
    @cordellej 5 місяців тому +4

    he is actually one of the primarchs maybe 2nd or 11th. captured alive by the wolf himself . and when cawl was asked to improve the space marines the custodes handed him over to cawl to use as a base and to study . hence he being over 10000 years old .
    he was in stasis in the custodes vaults on tera before that . hence being awaken 10000 years ago when taken out of the vault and handed over and his mind wiped .

    • @gregoryking6776
      @gregoryking6776 5 місяців тому

      This isn't possible as in the Genefather book Bile says that Primus is made with Cawls genes

    • @cordellej
      @cordellej 5 місяців тому

      @@gregoryking6776 an astartes is also MADE with his genefathers genes . and we all know that an astartes is just a mordified human but the word MADE is still used in refering to astardes
      so that does not mean that when MADE is used to refer to primus they are not refering to modifying him . remember we are dealing with GW and they leave loopholes like this that can be changed in the future
      I STAND BY MY CONCLUSION HE IS ONE OF THE LOST PRIMARCHS

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I really like this thoery. I'm considering doing a bigger deep dive and seeing of I can find anything that would make a connection.

  • @dominictaylor8672
    @dominictaylor8672 5 місяців тому +1

    Maybe alpha primus is one of the alpha twins who has been a secret double agent since the heresy

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I love this theory. Was tempted to do a video on it, so might give it a shot!

  • @tiaandutoit7324
    @tiaandutoit7324 5 місяців тому +1

    im so confused in wy he used the sscythes of the emperor image for the alpha primas

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      As this is the image for The Great Works, I used this as it had both Cawl and an Astartes together. Helped having an image to visualise the connection.

  • @ThroatSore
    @ThroatSore 5 місяців тому +1

    And they should not quite be as good as some of the other soldiers I have invented...........

  • @voldsmonopolet6446
    @voldsmonopolet6446 5 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Sub

  • @KuddlesbergTheFirst
    @KuddlesbergTheFirst 5 місяців тому

    A veteran space marine with 100-200+ years of training and battle experience should already match or surpass a new Primaris or Thunder Warrior? Also there was a time a custode and a group of primaris were slaughtered by Black Templars just like the Space Wolves did to Grey Knights. Over some disagreement or political reasons?

  • @BobLazier-zk8gi
    @BobLazier-zk8gi 4 місяці тому +1

    What if alpha primus is cawls version of the angel of destruction.. primarch 0 without wings.. but way more sane and controlled.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  4 місяці тому +2

      It would be interesting to see then if Alpha Primus would later be revealed as considerably stronger than he already is.
      The Angel could wipe out cities in seconds, so maybe if Cawl was able to save Alpha Primus's sanity, but by reducing his power, that could work. And if anyone has the blueprints, it would be Cawl.
      Only now he has the addition of the 20 Primarchs gene seed.

  • @Cozworth1007
    @Cozworth1007 5 місяців тому +2

    Whoever he is, his soul had to be attatched to his body and it wasnt done properly... it could be one of the 2 fallen

    • @cordellej
      @cordellej 5 місяців тому +1

      he is one of the fallen , captured by the wolf then locked in the vaults on tera and mind wiped by the custodes. then 10000 years ago he was handed over to cawl to be used as a base for development of the primaris . hence he only remembers 10000 years of being alive , and cawl has been developing the primaris for 10000 years

    • @zachar40k
      @zachar40k 5 місяців тому +1

      he isnt, hes explicitly a creation of cawl, cawl wanted to create a primarch esque marine and went too far with primus, not everything needs to tie back to the primarchs, its more interesting for primus to be his own person, a twisted creation who knows what cawl did to him, and hates him for it. Calw states that he loves primus as a son, which wouldnt be the case if he was a primarch, already created by someone else.@@cordellej

    • @cordellej
      @cordellej 5 місяців тому +2

      @@zachar40k a person does not have to be your son to love him as a son. so that bit of ur statement just got redconned . and u stated cawl did alot to him and changed him who say cawl could not mordify a sedated primarch?

    • @Heydudeitsmeee
      @Heydudeitsmeee 5 місяців тому

      I accept mordify as a now mechanicus approved surgical term. Praise the Omnissiah @@cordellej

    • @Cozworth1007
      @Cozworth1007 5 місяців тому +1

      We know cawl built primus's body and attatched a soul to it, and as we know with regards to ferrus manus and sanguinius, promarchs souls exist without their bodies, so its a good probability that the soul that was badly attatched to alpha primus is one of the fallen

  • @knightzix_01
    @knightzix_01 3 місяці тому +1

    that is not alpha primus thats emperors scythe i think

  • @CryingCreeperMLG
    @CryingCreeperMLG 5 місяців тому

    I don't think I really agree with any points raised in this video that say Primus is anything more than the Primaris version of Leetu, however it does have me interested to see if they *do* do anything with him. None of the feats given really exceed Primaris capability and the passage that's read literally outright states him to be 8 feet tall, which is pretty baseline for an Astartes. When he's regarded as being huge, with all the other information this really just sounds like he's an exceptionally bulky Astartes. When the alternate reality shows 20 Astartes in place of Primus, all that explicitly says is that "real" Cawl accomplished with one Astartes something that took his alternate counterpart twenty separate attempts; like if the Emperor had made Sanguinius out the gate and stopped there instead of wanting 20 Primarch sons.
    Furthermore, his feats of psyker ability aboslutely do NOT even come close to matching the feats of psykers like Mephiston and Tigurius. Mephiston is (quite literally) warp-god levels of powerful when it comes to psychic ability, and both he and Tigurius have either intimidated or beaten back the Tyranid Hivemind respectively in psychic battles. If you do genuinely believe Primus is more psychically powerful than both of these Librarians, please cite his feat and the source outside of "he is stated to be." Primus impresses Bile, Mephiston impresses Tzeentch, Sanguinius, and the Dark Angel of Baal. They are not equals in any sense.
    I want to re-iterate though that I am more than happy with being disproven despite the tone I write with, so if there is any evidence for Primus actually being incredibly powerful beyond his author merely telling us he is without showing us, I want to be informed. I'm just not swayed by "A few (admittedly exceptional) people *say* he's cool." It just reeks of a writer wanting their creation to be the coolest toy in the toybox to me as is right now.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      You are defintiely right. The "bulky" nature of Alpha Primus rather than being taller than 8 feet seems to be what was implied, especially with sneaking through the ship quote.
      The Psyker part is admittedly not the best sourced, and I leaned heavily on the Authors statements, which isn't the best way to go around it, but with 40k being so famously viewed from the perspective of an "unreliable narrator", I decided to roll with it for the entertainment factor.
      I have a lot to improve on when it comes to my research and conveying my thoughts, and hope to be able to produce higher quality videos as I go.
      I hugely appreciate the feed back, and hope you give my future videos a chance.

  • @cody1570
    @cody1570 5 місяців тому

    Funny how everyone is talking about possibilities of who that is. But in the book genefather. I can do one better. At one poiny cawl is put on trial about his STC contructs and how he replicated the same outcome using the dame method of each template. Meaning he made the same thing using same formula that operates how the template was created for. Without using the template itself. He later talks about how he needs to travel to a planet that goes back in time. So now you have a primaris marine who is known as prime, with a being that can replicate STC templates without actually studying them. Who wants to travel back in time to save humanity. Prime being a powerful alpha unknown psycher with no name. Traveling back in time before mankind made marines. Ill just say it. Belisarius Cawl is the Omnisiah and Primus is the Emperor.

  • @Baambam1
    @Baambam1 16 днів тому

    Could Alpha Primus be one of the 2 lost Primarchs? Just a thought..

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  8 днів тому +2

      It's a very popular theory. Did think about doing a video on it, but there is just so little information about the Lost Primarchs that I'm not sure it could be interesting enough.

  • @KingLich451
    @KingLich451 5 місяців тому +1

    Alpha rimus

  • @alexlineder8534
    @alexlineder8534 5 місяців тому +1

    Its confirmed that hes a clone of cawl in genefather?

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      He certainly has Cawl DNA in him, but there is defintiely more in this cocktail than just Cawl.

  • @damienruzco
    @damienruzco 5 місяців тому +1

    Oh god he’s gonna turn evil isn’t he

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      It’s 40K, to some degree everyone is evil, Belisarius Cawl for sure 😂

  • @ChillAssTurtle
    @ChillAssTurtle 5 місяців тому +1

    Could it be Omegon?

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I'm a huge fan of this theory and am planning to do a video on this too!

  • @tooslow4065
    @tooslow4065 5 місяців тому

    the voice-over wasnt exactly what was in the text. the you used feet and kilograms to describe space marines. also, supposedly big e went into the warp to get the entities to use as the soul of
    each primarch. how could cawl make his own? if anything, it would be a primarch sized primaris, but not a primarch

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Yeah, I did have a couple of slip ups! Need to double check things better!
      That's the thing, Cawl definitely made an attempt, just didn't really work out. Though the day Alpha Primus meets a Primarch will be very interesting, if it should happen.

  • @mykelengieza7057
    @mykelengieza7057 5 місяців тому +1

    ALGORITHM

  • @tau-5794
    @tau-5794 5 місяців тому

    Primus is Cawl's biological son. Not a metaphorical son like with the astartes and primarchs, but the actual progeny of Cawl.

    • @cody1570
      @cody1570 5 місяців тому

      Wrong primus is an emperor clone. And in gene father cawl plans to go back in time with prime before humanity. Cawl is the Omnisiah and prime is the emperor

    • @tau-5794
      @tau-5794 5 місяців тому

      @cody1570 From Genefather:
      Only one thing mattered.
      'He is my son,' Cawl said flatly. All lightness fled him. All his personality overlays, all his clever neurological tricks went. The weight of the moment pushed all that aside. He was exposed, open. The core of his being laid bare. For a few moments, he was no other person than Belisarius Cawl.
      'I see,' said Bile. He looked at Porter. 'I understand. I too have affection for my creations. My progeny, almost.'
      'I don't think you do understand,' said Cawl. 'He is not some thing whose elements were culled from whatever debased source I could get my hands on. He is far more. His genetic code is complex, but there are elements of myself in him.'
      'Porter is just as finely designed…'
      'He is not designed! Not completely. Do you not see? I made him from myself. In his genecode, I live on. I nurtured him. I…' He paused, unsure whether he could voice the words. 'I love him. He is my son.'
      Primus isn't some clone or failed primarch, he is Cawl's literal own son.

  • @michaelgautreaux3168
    @michaelgautreaux3168 5 місяців тому +1

    👍👍

  • @robdeskrd
    @robdeskrd 5 місяців тому +1

    Alpha Primaris is still considerably less than a Primarch because the Magnificant gland Cawl made is a recreation of only the right half of the Immortis gland Big E created for the Primarchs (also called the God Maker) AND Big E went into the Warp on Moloch and corralled 23 minor Warp gods to put into the Primarchs. Alpha Primaris is better compared with Custodes.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      I actually do agree with this. The Primarchs would more than likely stomp Alpha Primus, though I wouldn't be surprised if he put up a fight. Stranger things have happened!
      And though I am making speculation about Alpha Primus being a Big E clone, I definitely don't want to go so far as saying Cawl succeeded, not even in terms of making a Primarch.
      Though the fact that his soul doesn't seem "attatched" does make me wonder if Cawl was able to find some kind of Warp gods/entities to do this, but even that seems like a long shot.
      Alpha Primus compared to a Custodes is much more of a "fair" fight, possibly. Though the Custodes would then have to contend with his Pysker powers, and at that point a Sister of Silence wouldn't be missed.

    • @robdeskrd
      @robdeskrd 5 місяців тому +1

      @@InquisitorJoshua I tell you, Cawl is definitely one of the more intriguing characters in this story, he has so much potential to bring progress & change to the story..... like the idea of Cawl or his research becoming available to Bile is terrifying or, what if he found out about the intact AND updating STC database on board the Ark Mechanicus Sperenza or, suppose while searching for Noctolith he interacts with the Necrons more and the Silent King decides he needs Cawl to work on reversing bio-transference-
      just a few possibilities of the character.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      @@robdeskrd The potential offered by Cawl alone to advance the story is amazing. So many story threads that could lead to massive events or just even a total dead end.
      Honestly man, with all of what you just said, you should be doing your own videos! I'd definitely sub!

  • @ctjmaughs
    @ctjmaughs 3 місяці тому +1

    What happen when a space .marine eats a tyranid?

  • @germen343
    @germen343 5 місяців тому +1

    04:20 Melanin not Melatonin

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Totally right, completely messed that one up!

  • @iamtoolazytoeditmyprofile
    @iamtoolazytoeditmyprofile 5 місяців тому +2

    Cool video, but to improve please get to the point. We know what astartes are, I clicked on this video especially to figure out who the guy in the thumbnail is and 3 minutes in your still talking about astartes. I skip ahead until I find at 8 minutes you finally get into the topic of the video. This is how you lose viewers. If your going to introduce astartes, make it quick because a newbie to warhammer most likely will not click on this video when they dont even know what a primarch is. Its important to understand what your title is and who is going to catch it, so as an extension of my previous statement, your going to get more knowledgeable 40k fans to click on this video if not someone who understands what astartes are.
    Ill say it again but I dont need an 8 minute introduction into astartes when I know them already. This would cut down the video length from almost 18 minutes to about 10-11 minutes, the length of your typical Majorkill video. Speaking of... Majorkill is great with these kinds of things try to look at how he does his videos. I sure do wish his videos were a little but longer on some days but he reciprocates information he learns very well to us viewers.
    Good luck.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Hey!
      Yes, I actually completely agree with you. I wasn't really 100% sure where I wanted to go with this video and how to present a video for a new starting channel. Also really had no idea what kind of person would click the video. Worried that if they were new to 40k, they would have no idea what I was talking about. Evidently, I misjudged and and now have a much clearer idea of who my audience is!
      Luetin09, Majorkill, and Sandman of Terra are my inspirations for how I intended to present these videos, so went for a sort of middle ground.
      Genuinely appreciate the feedback, and will be absolutely taking it on board!

  • @patmigroin2808
    @patmigroin2808 5 місяців тому +2

    Please Alpha primus is how GW is going to sell a shit ton of primarch plastic crack for 40k, and you junkies are going to buy it. Balls deep lore and all.

  • @godofzombi
    @godofzombi 5 місяців тому +1

    LOL Gary Stue much?

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      No kidding! He will certainly be raising the bar if he gets much more exposure!

  • @qigonglungz
    @qigonglungz 5 місяців тому +1

    I only have 8 years into WH40 and still nothing ceases to amaze me... I pray GW progressively expounds on this portion of the lore. "For Thee Empraahhh!!"

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Honestly, I think GW is seeing how well they are doing and going to continue hard with the lore. There is so much I want to research and learn, hald the reason I decided to start making videos was because I wanted to help myself consolidate the information XD

  • @thesquirrel4257
    @thesquirrel4257 5 місяців тому

    that is not alpha primus, that a is a member of the space marine chapter, Scythes of the Emperor, who's homeworld of Sotha was wiped out by hive fleet Kraken,

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Yes, you are correct, this is not Alpha Primus, this is indeed an Astartes from Scythes of the Emperor.
      However, there are no pictures or artwork of Alpha Primus out there, and with how heavily featured Alpha Primus is in The Great Works, I felt it acceptable to use the cover of the book for this video.
      I wanted to include both Belisarius Cawl and Alpha Primus (any faceless Astartes would do) in the thumbnail, which is also how I came to this choice.
      I hope this small confusion wasn't enough to put you off from enjoying the video.

  • @nordrako1613
    @nordrako1613 5 місяців тому +1

    Im pretty sure alpha primus is not an emperors sythes astartes ha ha 🤓

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому

      Yeah, I just used the cover image of The Great Works as that had both Cawl and an Astartes in it 😅

  • @ryetee123
    @ryetee123 5 місяців тому +1

    Stopped watching as soon as I heard you pronounce "Librarian" wrong

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Glad to hear you at the very least tolerated 13 minutes of my awful pronunciation! Good to know that "libarian" is the line!

  • @wilshire704
    @wilshire704 5 місяців тому

    You didn't even bring up the subject of the video until halfway through. You gave some books quotes and then randomly at the end throw out one theory but provide ZERO evidence to it or how it would even be possible.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      You are correct, I didn't get down to the details of the video until about half way through. I am still new to this whole thing, and figuring out the steps, as well as how I will present the content. Thankfully this is a community of reasonable understanding people, who are able to present positive and constructive feedback (mostly).
      I did however provide evidence to my speculation.
      You're welcome to rewatch the video if your memory is a little hazy. A second viewing may help you consolidate the information presented.
      You are also welcome to not watch the video again. You do after all have freedom of choice, and I certainly have no intention of forcing anyone to enjoy this new project of mine.

  • @tyler1tanner
    @tyler1tanner 5 місяців тому

    "who is this?" well first of all thats a scythes of the emperor marine, NOT alpha primus.

    • @InquisitorJoshua
      @InquisitorJoshua  5 місяців тому +1

      Yes, you are correct, this is not Alpha Primus, this is indeed an Astartes from Scythes of the Emperor.
      However, there are no pictures or artwork of Alpha Primus out there, and with how heavily featured Alpha Primus is in The Great Works, I felt it acceptable to use the cover of the book for this video.
      I wanted to include both Belisarius Cawl and Alpha Primus (any faceless Astartes would do) in the thumbnail, which is also how I came to this choice.
      I hope this small confusion wasn't enough to put you off from enjoying the video.

    • @tyler1tanner
      @tyler1tanner 5 місяців тому +1

      @@InquisitorJoshua nah this is totally fair lmao im just giving you a little shit lol thanks for being cool about it though 🤣