I’m intrigued and mildly uneasy from this comment. Will update later to report on my experiences EDIT: I’m even more lost now. Legitimately feel like I’m going insane. Wonderful episode but I am now lost in the void.
So I was introduced to NL two weeks ago via YT recommendation. I’ve been watching all of the Mario Party videos. Then someone mentioned his Balatro videos and the pure JOY when I saw 200+ Balatro videos?! Anyway I have basically been taking a crash course in NL.
For the photo matching game I honestly think that the bulk of the score is about how accurate the position/zoom of the photo is. The elements in the shot barely matter. At 16:01. Yeah the elements of the shot are basically perfect....but his zoom is off substantially. Should be far more zoomed in and panned lower. You can't see any sky in the reference shot except the sliver under the treetops. Yet in NLs, you can see the whole top right sky and some sky above the treetops. Meanwhile the photo that got +78 is much better zoomed in (a bit too much) but you can see only that little bit of blue sky in that photo. I think the game assumes you're going to have a lot more difficulty lining up all those random moving elements so it doesn't award as many points for those. But anyone and everyone should be able to get really close to matching the zoom and pan.
I kind of assumed that the game doesn't actually look at the picture, it just checks your zoom level, what direction/angle you're facing, and what time you took it (for the looping animations) and judges you by how close you are to the correct values. And depending on how they coded it, the timing would just be a single thing to score (i.e "the goal is 7.25 seconds into the loop, what time did they take their photo?") meanwhile the zoom and camera position are at least 2 different values to mess up
Yeah, the meta of targeting the person in first needs to be a bit more nuanced than how they are doing it now. If they really want to be playing hard like that then they need to be accounting for board position, items everyone has, coins they have, general skill in the minigames, etc. It's too much of going after someone just because they have more stars. Being up by two or three stars isn't that much when Boo is in play, especially on a map where it's relatively easy to get to Boo. All it takes is two people stealing from the person in first to completely flip the game around.
@@Sw33tR0llThief It literally drove me insane when Apollo was one space away from boo with 98 coins and Wario and everyone still dogpiled NL because he was in first without factoring in the two star swing that was literally about to occur. And even NL thought going after himself was the correct play just because he was in first at the time. The man plays chess.
The Beginning of The Silent on STS, The reemergence of the pegged jack in the absolute cube box, and this, the beautiful king of its time, Mario Party Big Great Jamborees. Gold, gold and Golder. So blessed.
Dan only one smart enough to go after Apollo even when Ryan is begging him to steal his items for some reason. Too bad the other aspects of his game are a bit lacking lmao.
Ryan's aversion to metagaming is precisely why Apollo is dominating in wins. Mario party is made with the social game in mind, and it's perfectly alright to handicap a player if they have a history of doing well
@@miffedmeff7302like maybe if it's like a game for my life but amongst friends it is pretty lame to do that. Like that would really get me feeling some type of way if my friends were still messing with me in third and fourth place. Maybe if I was being a jerk sure but me personally I don't think I would ever do something like that. Too much pride.
@@miffedmeff7302 who fucking cares if he is "dominating in wins" it's fucking mario party. being a bully and trying to drive a friend away from even playing the game because he's "too good" is just being a shitty friend.
@@miffedmeff7302 Even rats are known to show a sense of fair play. When playing the bigger rat will voluntarily throw playfights so that the smaller rat will not stop playing with them. It's the same thing here, if everyone always focuses Apollo, he'll get discouraged and stop playing and then no one has fun anymore. NL explained it in the discussion. It may make strategic sense, but it's a game and it should be fun for everyone, as much as possible.
Ryan seems real focused on capturing the action in the photos, but pays no heed to the framing. But the framing accounts for like... 80% of the score XD
Mario party only gets worse when people try to make it social, in my opinion. The most you can do to actually collude is throw mini games, and it mostly adds so much pointless bickering.
@@wyldenites Unfortunately, Free Parking getting all the fee/payment money literally unbalances the entire game. It's one of the main reasons people think Monopoly takes forever, a huge cash injection to one player, or several random large cash injections spread throughout the game through random chance just adds a ton more time to the game. The game does this already with it's own luck spaces already with Community Chest and Chance that give like $20 - 100, so why would it be a good idea to have a spot that can literally give a player $1000+ in a game where most transactions are in the $0 - 200. That would be like a space in Mario Party that actually gives you 20 stars when a majority of the game hands out 1-2 a round.
timestamp would be appreciated but i'm assuming this is about the in-joke about ryan repeating his favorite memes (like "mama liz's chili oil" a while ago?) over and over being similar to verbal stimming?
Quoting media isn't necessarily self-stimulatory behavior in and of itself, but it can happen as part of vocal stimming. For me, a lot of the vocal stimming that I do is repeating quotes and things from videos, games, movies, or other media I like, so there is definitely overlap.
i love how when at 1:31:30 NL goes to the left for Boo even though its longer than going vault then the left. same for Apollo and chance time. its plays like these that I love the most: objectively bad plays.
Actually made me so disappointed malf agreed to pretty much boost Apollo and have them go after NL when he barely wins and Apollo always wins. They could have at least made it cinematic and tried to get Dan to win his first game...
50:17 i knew a guy who went by the name "darkness", and he would say things like "this is so dark" is a bellowing voice shen shit got crazy at work. He, too, had a very normal girlfriend. Fun guy.
The games with Dan do feel a little off. Whether its the purposeful misplays when they are advising him on the best course of action or the fact that for the most part he isn't really much of a factor in the minigames. These games are best when everyone is trying their best and if someone is dead last like that it's because they keep getting screwed by the dice.
Dan is the chaos the group needs from time to time. Also the only one brave enough to play as Goomba. Honestly Yoshi and DK are kind low tier character choices, just barely above Mario.
The whole 3v1 aspect when someone gets up 2 or 3 stars is the issue I think. If everyone individually wants to find a way to get the person in first that's one thing. But everyone coordinating (especially when you are coordinating with the person that has way more wins than the rest) against one person is just too much.
At least unlike when they played among us I think they are still all having fun. I think NL usually tries to make the logically optimal play too, he just sucks at a lot of the mini-games.
When u realize youve already seen this game of mario party twice
awwe hell
Just twice?
Get it twisted. It’s decroded
Yeah what the hell I saw this a week ago
Brother, I’m debating so hard whether or not I’m going to look for another video
This game of Mario Party is a generational piece of cinema, I’m jealous of anyone who’s just about to experience it for the first time
Wait till you see today's game 👀
I’m intrigued and mildly uneasy from this comment. Will update later to report on my experiences
EDIT:
I’m even more lost now. Legitimately feel like I’m going insane. Wonderful episode but I am now lost in the void.
That 50 on the photo match was like watching olympic judges from adversarial countries score opposing athletes.
It was not a great photo, so zoomed out lol 😂
Agreed. They don't notice the framing which you can immediately see if you look around the borders of the photo. It was way off.
I hope Apollo knows how much we love it when he says "New turn!" and "You got a star!"
I totally get it the announcer has such a weird energy
I love the new turn so much haha
He's really good at imitating the weird intonation.
thiiiisss
Mario just going demon mode and instantly knocking Dan off is so fucking funny
Them convincing Dan to try and go get a star next turn (instead of going to boo) when they KNOW two of them have chomp whistles is straight EVIL!😭
Dan using the custom to only roll a 5 is so perfectly Dan coded 😂
is it brain damage or just dan being dan?... we'll never know
Me immediately after getting home from an amazing night out with friends:
Bro every time
+2real
Your friends love you, because you're great. I love you too, as much as a stranger can love someone else they don't know. Stay pogged buddy
1:23:05 is one of my favorite moments from a Mario Party video. You know Dan was waiting for that the whole mini-game
Dan really set the bit up being like "i have no preexisting alliances" then turn 2 immediately glazing Malf again 🤣
So I was introduced to NL two weeks ago via YT recommendation. I’ve been watching all of the Mario Party videos. Then someone mentioned his Balatro videos and the pure JOY when I saw 200+ Balatro videos?! Anyway I have basically been taking a crash course in NL.
Welcome to the circus
Its an addiction
You ain't seen nothin yet kid
Hitman is my personal favourite of NL's videos
a new member of the egg carton
For the photo matching game I honestly think that the bulk of the score is about how accurate the position/zoom of the photo is. The elements in the shot barely matter.
At 16:01. Yeah the elements of the shot are basically perfect....but his zoom is off substantially. Should be far more zoomed in and panned lower. You can't see any sky in the reference shot except the sliver under the treetops. Yet in NLs, you can see the whole top right sky and some sky above the treetops. Meanwhile the photo that got +78 is much better zoomed in (a bit too much) but you can see only that little bit of blue sky in that photo. I think the game assumes you're going to have a lot more difficulty lining up all those random moving elements so it doesn't award as many points for those. But anyone and everyone should be able to get really close to matching the zoom and pan.
I kind of assumed that the game doesn't actually look at the picture, it just checks your zoom level, what direction/angle you're facing, and what time you took it (for the looping animations) and judges you by how close you are to the correct values. And depending on how they coded it, the timing would just be a single thing to score (i.e "the goal is 7.25 seconds into the loop, what time did they take their photo?") meanwhile the zoom and camera position are at least 2 different values to mess up
Damn, maybe one day Ryan will win without getting hardtargeted all game just for Apollo to win anyway
Yeah, the meta of targeting the person in first needs to be a bit more nuanced than how they are doing it now. If they really want to be playing hard like that then they need to be accounting for board position, items everyone has, coins they have, general skill in the minigames, etc. It's too much of going after someone just because they have more stars. Being up by two or three stars isn't that much when Boo is in play, especially on a map where it's relatively easy to get to Boo. All it takes is two people stealing from the person in first to completely flip the game around.
@@Sw33tR0llThief It literally drove me insane when Apollo was one space away from boo with 98 coins and Wario and everyone still dogpiled NL because he was in first without factoring in the two star swing that was literally about to occur.
And even NL thought going after himself was the correct play just because he was in first at the time. The man plays chess.
The Beginning of The Silent on STS, The reemergence of the pegged jack in the absolute cube box, and this, the beautiful king of its time, Mario Party Big Great Jamborees. Gold, gold and Golder. So blessed.
That thumbnail is the face of a broken man. MP has given him all the joy and pain one could ever experience in one lifetime in just one sitting.
1:49:00
The soul read on Dan is crazy lol
Hit him with the brain destroyer.
Brain Destroyer part 2
NL has future sight 1:46
16:15 he got so mad he echoed
anyone else notice NL's webcam is working?
Oh shoot you’re right, someone should tell him
NL called how this game is gonna turn out at the very start
"YOUR LIFE IS AS VALUABLE AS A DEADLY ANT"
He is never returning.
Dan only one smart enough to go after Apollo even when Ryan is begging him to steal his items for some reason. Too bad the other aspects of his game are a bit lacking lmao.
Ryan's aversion to metagaming is precisely why Apollo is dominating in wins. Mario party is made with the social game in mind, and it's perfectly alright to handicap a player if they have a history of doing well
@@miffedmeff7302like maybe if it's like a game for my life but amongst friends it is pretty lame to do that. Like that would really get me feeling some type of way if my friends were still messing with me in third and fourth place. Maybe if I was being a jerk sure but me personally I don't think I would ever do something like that. Too much pride.
@@miffedmeff7302 who fucking cares if he is "dominating in wins" it's fucking mario party. being a bully and trying to drive a friend away from even playing the game because he's "too good" is just being a shitty friend.
@@miffedmeff7302 Isn't going after the player who has a history of winning considered metagaming in and of itself?
@@miffedmeff7302 Even rats are known to show a sense of fair play. When playing the bigger rat will voluntarily throw playfights so that the smaller rat will not stop playing with them. It's the same thing here, if everyone always focuses Apollo, he'll get discouraged and stop playing and then no one has fun anymore. NL explained it in the discussion. It may make strategic sense, but it's a game and it should be fun for everyone, as much as possible.
Would you look at that, Apollo got a bonus star.
but they're random, dude! he has no idea which of them he was gonna get despite always winning 70% of the categories
@@Rislear you dont get it dude do you? Go watch the previous vids.
@@michaelnelson401whoosh
@@RislearTHE RISLEAR
@@ryancooper4770 The Coopler
Dans random questions get me everytime.
3 people in this video are playing Mario Party, one's playing Liar's Bar
Dan walking into the bullet bill was so funny to me 😂
Dan's intros bring levity to my soul.
You have no idea how poged I am for Mr Gheesling to react to "you... got a zatar"
OMG he called it at the start dudeeeeee. apollo always wins somehow
He is le gamer (& also has good reaction times)
am i going insane or is this like the 3rd time this has been posted to his channel
the thumbnail is so great. that is a broken man
1:07:18 for the greatest turn in Super Mario Party Jamboree history
And imagine if he had gotten the fifth one
Bring back SWITCH GOLF! I have to keep rewatching the old ones!
3 piece none backspin
Ryan seems real focused on capturing the action in the photos, but pays no heed to the framing.
But the framing accounts for like... 80% of the score XD
i needed the dan comeback
Love the energy Dan brings to these.
Mario party only gets worse when people try to make it social, in my opinion. The most you can do to actually collude is throw mini games, and it mostly adds so much pointless bickering.
Dan not knowing nor comprehending scene is so on track
insanely cracked tricky turntables gameplay
I wasnt going to crack open a cold one but since Dans here.
Dan: "Like Community Chest in Monopoly"
Not even slightly.
Maybe he's thinking of the terrible house rule for Free Parking?
House rule, or a good reason to not just pay the bank when you get money taken away, and the games aren't just "oh, can I have another 1 and 5"
@@wyldenites Unfortunately, Free Parking getting all the fee/payment money literally unbalances the entire game. It's one of the main reasons people think Monopoly takes forever, a huge cash injection to one player, or several random large cash injections spread throughout the game through random chance just adds a ton more time to the game. The game does this already with it's own luck spaces already with Community Chest and Chance that give like $20 - 100, so why would it be a good idea to have a spot that can literally give a player $1000+ in a game where most transactions are in the $0 - 200. That would be like a space in Mario Party that actually gives you 20 stars when a majority of the game hands out 1-2 a round.
@@genghisgThank you for that explanation. Makes sense why our Monopoly games never seem to freaking end.
@@genghisgits more fun that way. Who doesnt wanna feel like they won the lottery?
I had to look up Stimming and it did not seem to be what NL was talking about?
Timestamp 5:13
timestamp would be appreciated but i'm assuming this is about the in-joke about ryan repeating his favorite memes (like "mama liz's chili oil" a while ago?) over and over being similar to verbal stimming?
Yeah it's probably a reference to those UA-cam videos with "vocal stims I got from media" or whatever titles
Quoting media isn't necessarily self-stimulatory behavior in and of itself, but it can happen as part of vocal stimming. For me, a lot of the vocal stimming that I do is repeating quotes and things from videos, games, movies, or other media I like, so there is definitely overlap.
i love how when at 1:31:30 NL goes to the left for Boo even though its longer than going vault then the left. same for Apollo and chance time.
its plays like these that I love the most: objectively bad plays.
thumbnail title combo is extremely funny
Actually made me so disappointed malf agreed to pretty much boost Apollo and have them go after NL when he barely wins and Apollo always wins. They could have at least made it cinematic and tried to get Dan to win his first game...
50:17 i knew a guy who went by the name "darkness", and he would say things like "this is so dark" is a bellowing voice shen shit got crazy at work. He, too, had a very normal girlfriend. Fun guy.
NL Is the house villian because he is bald
Seeing this uploaded hit like crack
16:20 I love when Ryan gets mad at the photo game it’s photo is always so off😂
I know, his photo was zoomed out too far. I don't understand how he could think it was perfect.
THAT FACE @ 16:01
Yeah I’ve noticed the framing is most important? in that game
a hush has fallen over the arena
edit: 01:49:00 the soul reads were GOATED
that 50 on camera ready was heinous actions
Malf's insane chain chomp!!!
The Dannller!
Has Apollo ever lost the quizzler
this deserves an Emmy.
The best of Team Unity is the dis-unity. Cinema.
listening to dan try and figure out the social game is gonna kill me one of these days
The fucking thumbnail lol
Dan was definitely playing correctly by targeting Apollo 😂
I can't stop watching these Mario Party videos. Glad to see Dan's back too
Mario party civil war over here
both times with dan were very toxic games lmao
Can you put Dan in the title
Dan is such a fun player to watch.
16:00 ryan gary more like ryan gosling
The game already has crazy comeback rng, focusing someone is just kinda cruel
38:18 Justin Tucker would NEVER.
...this aged so poorly :(
the meddleerrr
Three minutes ago is diabolical
egg too good he gonna make them crack
5 stars would have been insane!
Dan being kinda a party pooper with this "stop playing to win" rhetoric.
Don't you mean... a MARIO party pooper?!?
The games with Dan do feel a little off. Whether its the purposeful misplays when they are advising him on the best course of action or the fact that for the most part he isn't really much of a factor in the minigames. These games are best when everyone is trying their best and if someone is dead last like that it's because they keep getting screwed by the dice.
I am trapped please help me
Nl actually coulda gotten 5 stars in one turn if he didnt buy the whistle
do funny how dan can be goated at bug brother but terrible at mario party of all things
Dan is so funny! Even though I'm team Apollo, I wanna see him in more games!
DuckSmoke
when you realise ninja larper get more girls then you do
We're really all just refreshing and praying for the next Mario Party video huh
Dan is the chaos the group needs from time to time. Also the only one brave enough to play as Goomba. Honestly Yoshi and DK are kind low tier character choices, just barely above Mario.
The glazing is crazy
Wish they would stop picking voting for the mini games
holy shit goomba daniel
I'm with Dan this game. My dude has the best instincts but got so screwed.
Min-maxing and directing other people's turns really takes the fun out the game sometimes
The whole 3v1 aspect when someone gets up 2 or 3 stars is the issue I think. If everyone individually wants to find a way to get the person in first that's one thing. But everyone coordinating (especially when you are coordinating with the person that has way more wins than the rest) against one person is just too much.
photo game rigged
NLs photo fails because he got the timing wrong on the Toad pass when theyre crying tears. Its the right angle but the complete wrong revolution
It's a silly game and all, but I really dislike Dan's playstyle
eff this game
I gotta start skipping the Dan episodes
Dude Apollo always wins it’s gross lol true elite gamer
First
The firstler
I'm loving Mario Party but man, Apollo needs to not do the logically optimal play every time he can. He wins like 90% of the games he's in.
At least unlike when they played among us I think they are still all having fun. I think NL usually tries to make the logically optimal play too, he just sucks at a lot of the mini-games.
I agree with Dan that Apollo meta gaming and min maxing in Mario Party is kinda cringe. Especially because he wins everytime
Dan saw through it clear as day.
Man Ryan’s laugh has lost its luster. My man is getting older 😢 been rewatching old NLSS Vods and man it’s so polarizing
how much do you think apollo cried when trump won again?
How much do you think your father cried while he watched me and your mother do the hokey pokey and shake it all about 🤔