47 Ford Truck Rat Rod - Triangulated 4 Link From Scratch Part 2
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Another detail I forgot to mention is that the top link needs to be 75% of the length of the bottom link. My bottom link is 20" long and the top one is 15". That is true even with a parallel 4 link.
Thank you for sharing that. I would have assumed equal length otherwise.
I thought it was 70% of the bottom link.. Thanks
@@geoffreymills9932 Close enough. I use 75% because it's easier to calculate.
Thank You for this and all the other information. t.
Are you going to leave the mounting points for the links open (double shear) or are you going to tie them together like a C channel?
Bob, you did a great job explaining the 4 link setup.
Brilliant explanation Booobb
If you don't have a degree in engineering already some college ought to send you one in the mail.
The days of "self-taught" like Lincoln's self taught reading so he could pass the bar exam without a law degree are long over! ...and it's a crying shame because there's an awful lot of real talent out there that goes unnoticed because people don't have deep pockets to pay for some name school!
Ha ... it's a shame that some of these big name schools turn out some of the biggest air heads.
True story: Back in the 80's I was working hard in construction .. in the heat and wanted to better myself and learn how to build and program computers .. so I went to every library around and checked out every book they had on the subject ( before internet ) ... bought my first computer and learned to program in PC Basic .. wrote/programmed several simple computer games ... it was like a miracle to me. My next computer was one I built from components and I learned to program in C which was before C++. In 1989 ... got injured on my heavy equipment operator construction job and had to train for another job .. which I choose computer programming. In 1990 I had to do a community college thing to get that piece of paper that said I had potential and I done an apprentice thing at a local distribution center programming in a C++ and a 4GL database language (PROGRESS 4GL). Was working next to two other guys who had bachelor degrees and was working circles around them ... they would come to me for answers. Bottom .. line ... with no degree ... 2 years later I was making $40 an hour ... 3 years later $50 and hour and $60 an hour by 1999 .. the sky was the limit. I worked coast to coast as a consultant in database design and computer program specialist for fortune 500 companies! You could only imagine how all those high class folks reacted when this guy with a strong southern accent walked in and worked circles around everyone with high degrees. It was so much fun to watch. But my true roots was in construction being outside instead of inside looking out from a high rise window. So in 2002 .. after I proved to myself that I could be/do anything I wanted .. I went back to construction (for a lot less money but much more happy) until I retired in 2014.
So my story would be ... you can do/be anything you want if you have heart and want it bad enough and put in the work to make it happen. Also ... and most importantly ... money certainly does not make you happy. The more money I made the less happy I was .. led me to some dark places that I had to overcome if you know what I mean. Like Richard Pryor once said ... cocaine is Gods word for "you making to damn much money". End of story.
@@RatRodBobBuilds Amen, brother.
I do have a degree in Mechanical Engineering but I learn heaps from your videos thanks Bob.
@@RatRodBobBuilds hell of a great story Bob. Thanks for sharing.
Best explanation I've heard on four link suspensions
Thank you Professor Bob!
You saved me a ton of grief with today's lesson. I am preparing to build a four link starting tomorrow. I was going to construct the parallel style. Now I'm definitely going triangulated. Locating the top link would have taken a ton of trial and error had you not shared the highly classified X marks the spot method.
You made my morning!
Another detail I forgot to mention is that the top link needs to be 75% of the length of the bottom link. My bottom link is 20" long and the top one is 15". That is true even with a parallel 4 link.
Bob great details of how you triangulated the mounts explained the angles to keep the rear end pointed towards the transmission.
I like your assistant his attention span is incredible, very very observant.
X marks the "Spot" for Rat Rod Bob's Gold!!!
Keep Rocking it out Bob and Red!!!
I like the process as you described and look forward to seeing the rear bags mounted - great work Bob!
Been sittin' in one of my thinking chairs since I watched the first time........
Really like the way you carried the leverage theme on air bags from front to rear, makes for faster action. We always 'preciate faster action!
I'm amazed at your skills and your ability and willingness to teach...thank you Bob! I appreciate it.
You're a cool guy, Bob. - "Jep. I've seen him do a couple of things too." (RED)
Been going back watching all the older video. You are a wise man BOB. You have helped a lot of people out. Appreciate you.
Wow, great job on explaining all of that Bob. Really made sense when you used the cardboard and made the rear end go up and down and "X" marked the spot.. I like the way you do things.
Damn good job on that triangulated 4 Link, and explaining it too Bawb! I think that’s pretty damn good for a good Ol country boy! Damn straight brother!
You need to give classes bob i have learned so much and still learning keep em rollin bob gonna be one nice ride
i feel he is giving these classes over the internet lol,,rock on bob
Thank You Professor Bob. You are my inspiration to build my ‘29 Dodge Brothers (what was a car) that was sectioned in the ‘40-50s to be a pickup. The question/concern is the angle of the driveshaft. In all the years of building jacked up 4x4s, I was told by a driveline shop owner that no matter what the angle of the driveshaft the most important is the angle of the transmission output shaft and the rear ended input shaft MUST be on the same plane. Or the u joints will be in a bind and Will lock and blow out. Bad things happen. Also leaf spring tear ends have a preload of about 3-5 degrees so that under load the leafsprings curl. That’s why traction bars where created.
Truth be told ... point the rear end input shaft to the tranny output shaft as close as you can and call it a day. It would take a hell of an angle to bind the u-joints. I just did it this way because I can. LOL
Bob, you explained it well. If someone doesn't understand how you explained it, they should have a professional install their rear suspension setup.
This man knows what he is doing. Allways enjoy watching him work.
bob i love the way you explain how and why stuff works.............
Here in Central Florida, it has done the same. Winter right to summer! Everyone should have a day off with pay. You have earned it! Nice work Bob, I learn something ever time I watch one of your video's. Keep' em coming! I hope Red approves this message!
Bob, I know you like the Rust look but have you ever thought about painting the entire car one single color without any of the prep work ...Paint right over the rust, the dents, the scratches and the deformities to simply have a uniform color? I can see this Pick-up in a light tangerine! You don't even have to use a spray gun. I once painted an entire car with one of those red plastic handled mini-rollers and a a few quarts of Rustoleum paint. I applied the coats very thinly and after the third coat there were no drips, streaks or lines. It came out astonishingly beautiful and because the paint is a sort of filler in itself, smoothed out a lot of the anomalies!
Great example of what you meant to teach. I do understand exactly what you said. Thank you Bob.
Who could have possibly disliked this video? Great Job BOB!
Thanks BOB GREAT JOB ON SET-UP OF THE REAR END !!!
You got through to me Bob , that's as good as it gets ,i have a two link ,with a panhard bar ,and on top of the pinion, I'm putting a third link ,to keep my pinion angle straight,and coil springs with wieght jacks .thanks for another great video!!
You are gittin there Bob or Bob eatherr way it will work....Thanks Bob...Always fun to watch you work....!!!!
Holy crap!! Huge thanks for all the FREE information! This is years of priceless knowledge you’re sharing for free! Thanks!
That's what I was thinkin!
thanks Bob...thats highly scientific rat rod'ology just blew my mind.
I am going with everything you said Bob your a pretty smart guy can't wait for the next video
Another great video, thanks for posting Bob !
Good job explaining the 4 Link. This is Lil' Cindy and the way you explain the 4 link makes sense now to me! Thanks!!
One of your best videos Bob, when you lowered the rear end and that rod stayed exactly on the rear of the trans target that was so damn cool. Proof is in the doing, Great job designing, building and sharing. You have a gift thank you so much for sharing. Good On you. Got the hat designed gonna get it made this weekend. Do you have a favorite color?
Anything not pastel. LOL
It pays to listen to the old timers, nothing beats experience, you aint done it right till you learn the hard way and need to do it twice!
Thank you Bob. Makes perfect sense. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us.
Thank you for the clarification Bob I have watched many a build on 4 links but Nobody has explained the principles as well as you have, if at all they either assume you know it or don't seem to know why it is done, just that it supposedly gives better handling,
With your detailed show and tell it makes it easier to understand.
Tony from Western Australia.
Hey Bob. It sure is a lot of work getting the Rat Rod together. But it is all fun and a fella needs something to do other than watching TV. Thanks for sharing.👍👍
Bob, my name is Rick. I approve of Red approving this message. 👍good job of explaining the differences in 4 link suspensions... Thanks for sharing.
That was a perfect explanation of the differences between the tri-4 link vs parallel w/ the pan-hard bar. Thank you very much! Also your explanation of how to build the tri-4 link along with the why of each step etc. You speak my language. Love your work and content!
Thank you Bob and Red. Your explanation and teaching skills are right on the mark for the triangles and paralleled 4link. I had no idea what they were and now I understand them thoroughly. Keep up the good work. Red needs to clean up the shop again.
yes!.. my top 3 u tubes.. all lined up today.. rat rod bob..visegrip garage..an jonathan w. saweeet!.. this 4 link one ..is gonna get watched a few times.. hard to get my mind around those triangulations.. thanxs bob
You would be surprised but ... since this video does not have an "eye candy" thumbnail, it's one of my least watched videos so far. Not many folks building four links. On the other hand ... the video I done a few months back with the Demon Falcon sitting in the grass looking like a Hot Wheels car on the thumbnail but no real usable content ... got viewed a lot. And the before and after video of Charlotte is my most viewed to date because the thumbnail is a before and after shot of the ole 31 Chevy. That's why a lot of guys get their hot wife or daughter(they should be ashamed) or girl friend to pose for the thumbnail. Instant views regardless of content. Clickbait is real.
Little shop where dreams come true! Love it
I'm only a couple years older then you but you make me feel 20 years older. I to work on cars. And I do it all myself. Building, painting, upholstery etc.... but I can't produce like you anymore. 😥
The inspector is on the job! Bob I don’t know how you get things done with Red looking over your shoulder! Your getting it, just ant got it ! “Have a great day!”
Master Bob .Hotrod Build.... You are the man..
Bob your the man !!! Tell old red to clean that shop up , he’s been bullshiting around long enough!!!!!!💯👍
Good stuff Bob. Thanks for sharing. Best regards.
Boy old red was taking notes on this one he was back there writing down everything glad to see him taking a interest so guess you can put the cattle prod away great job
Red is the MAN!! So are you Bob!
Yea I gotcha fine. No problem professor, on to the next video. Keep’em coming bob. I wish I lived a little closer to ya so I could get lucky enough to see these rods from time to time after completed
Outstanding series on 4 link. Thank you Professor Bob
If some of these young guys and yea some of us old guys would listen to you , they might just learn something. Great work Bob.
Love watching your videos! One smart dude👍🏻
Bob, Once again you have produced another Awesome Class on RatRodology Geometric Designing....this is goona be a Sweeet Ride when you are done....:)
For those who don't know. I'm gonna tell you now. *it's not that easy!*
I had to redesign the rear end on my project 3 times all ready! I'm still not happy with it!
Excellent vid Bob...good ole old school technique
Bob, that was a very informative video. My 1967 Chevy II Nova still has leaf springs and I found out that they are not exactly parallel. The front mounts are slightly wider than the back.
Atta boy Bob! Commin along nicely.. just not there yet. 😎 I nominate Red for President of the RedRatsGleeClub. Ha..
Appreciate that you share your knowledge so well. It gives a great insight to what is required in a build. Very enjoyable
Hi uncle bob I love the way you just pick up a spirit level and just throw it on the ground nice measures xyz 👌🏼🇦🇺🇺🇸☝🏼️👍🏽
Ha ... spirit level ... I dig it ... yea and ... eyeball is close enough for Rat Rods!
Sorry Bob I asked my question before the end of your video and you answered it at the end. Thanks
Great job on the 4-link... But you do NOT want the yolk from the rear end to point toward the yolk out of the transmission you want them to be as close to parallel planes at ride height.
Gonna share your videos on my Facebook and get my friends to as well.
I like your driveshaft cut thanks
Bob your a wealth of knowledge thank you
Hey Bawb..gotta say i love your projects and admire how you cover everything start to finish, if people cant understand what your talking about...well, they would be better off watching TV, love the way you covered that top link geometry, i didnt get how easy it was on Charlotte, i was thinking it was gonna be a move and clamp hunt for the sweet spot, excellent info as usual, keep up the great work..
bob, you want the top and bottom bars to be parallel when at ride height? i like how the lower bars go one way and the top go the other, keeping the axle centered as the axle goes up and down....not need for a pan hard bar with that.
I understand your question .. and the answer is not exactly in my case. A lot of geometry in the four link setup but the x marks the spot trick works great for me .. without breaking out the slide rule. LOL
Great job Bob !! Thank you !!! Be safe my friend and may God continue to bless you and yours !!!! Eddy
Cool video bob very educating us young guys how to build rat rods keep the vids coming awesome
Your videos are great! Glad I'm subscribed! You do great work with great instructions! Made my links work just like I wanted. Thank you!
Looking good Bob, thanks for all the info, same way I set up my 1926 Dodge
Coming together nicely 👍
You make brilliant ideas look easy.
Way to go Bob,all is looking great,as usual.
This is looking real good Bob !!!!
Very nice brackets especially the top front clever
At first I was thinking ... man these top front ears are gonna be a pain in the a$$. So as usual I took one step at a time and I fabbed the outside ones first .. then like magic ... as usual the other ones came right to me. So the bottom line .... do what you can ... the rest will come to you in time.
I know a guy that needed a rear notch super high like that so he just made the frame straight instead. Confused a lot of people when they saw it. Plus it was body dropped and "doored".
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@@roberthoover9711 - I think you meant to post this in the general comments but you accidentally put it in a response to mine. Not sure if you can copy and paste it so you don't have to retype the whole thing again. Plus lots of others will see it and respond back. 👍
Yes I did. Sorry. Deleted.
You should be on that TV show called Engineering Marvel's. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting for sure. Great lesson too Bawb
it is looking good Bob and yes you explained it well
I like your set up and lower bag bars, Your Thinking Chair is working fine. 4 link parallel bars work fine with Hiem joints but not with bushings. The 75% is not true with parallel 4 bar, just ask Red. Get 2 Popsicle sticks and some thumbtacks and make a jig on that cardboard. I wana see Red eat a Popsicle. I look forward to more RRBB.
Good idea with the popsicle sticks. I think 70% would be the scientific number for non Rat Rods. Also depends on the angle of the front mounts .. I think. LOL
Love the build I enjoy watching gives me some ideas for a couple projects I like the idea of the triangulated 4 link makes a tone of sense hyme joints would give a lot smother travel in addition to that style I think id use that in part of the combination
Yes .. but you have to consider hyme's joints will wear over time but good for racing because they don't get a ton of use. As you have seen .. I used hyme's joints on the front but will have to be prepared to replace them over time. Unlike factory joints that have grease certs (well .. at least they had them back in the day .. lol). But ... if I wasn't so frugal on this build I would have used them on this 4 link too .. beings it's a Rat Rod and won't get a ton of use.
Agreed they would wear I also forgot to mention that my builds are small scale rat rod gokarts and lawnmowers things of that sort also dead red makes me smile every time I see him I just want to say I'm not criticizing any of your building its quite informational iv always built thing with what ever I could find turning it into something fun and functional thank you very much for taking the time not only on making you videos and for reading and responding
Good Morning, Brother Bob!
That is some rat-rod-ology right there ! Beautiful work Bob !
Looks good, nice info on lining up links.
BOB I WANT TO BUY ONE OF YOUR RAT RODS!!!! Best out there!
I've been known to sell one now and then if someone offers me a price I can't refuse. LOL
Very interesting. Thanks Bob.
((😂)) Lol” gotcha Bob” I just just a long ways from getting it done yet.. them air bags looks very similar to the ones on the back of my eight bag air ride setup on back of my Kenworth simi truck .. I just wonder if them type of bags will work on the rear of my 31 Rat I’m building .. I’m just wanting to run bags only on the back of my Rod the front is setting low enough with a 4inch drop I-Beam front axle.. plans are to channel the firewall down over the frame, body with a slight tilt down at the firewall that when the rear section of body drops down it will set even on the grown .. do you have any Rat Rod ology input for me on what I’m attempting to do ?
I call that the wheel barrow effect. Check out my first Rat Rod .. the 454 Rat Recon ... here is the playlist: ua-cam.com/video/1JCKcBif-LY/v-deo.html
Any day you take off is well earned!!!
Great job and Another great video Bob 👍👍🇨🇱
From a top view, the bottom links point somewhere towards the transmission and the top links point to the outside of the frame. How do you determine the degree angle of the top and bottom links in relation to each other? Great video Bob, school has never been so interesting.
I just wing it. Ha ... best answer I can give. I would say mine is on about a 25-30 degree angle and I try to keep the top and bottom on the same angle .. but honestly ... I eyeball it.
Looks great Bob! Nice to see you. Thanks for sharing
Hey Bob, this was an awesome video! I seriously learned a lot on this one. Thanks a bunch!
Thanks Bob great video 👍🏻
I like your ratrodology, Bob!
gr8 info as usual bob keep doing what you're doing
YIKES!!!! Impressive Bob...
Well done Bob 👍🧐 Nicely explained
Super duper secret thanks for the learning brother.
It is looking good .
Hey Bob, always look forward to your videos. The rear suspension is looking real good! I would like to ask you what thickness of metal do you use for the tabs on the suspension? Thanks again for taking the time for schooling us in rat rodology.
I usually use 1/4" but I used 3/16 here ... will be adding another piece to the bottom ones for bracing when I welder up. Stay tuned.