Harley Davidson Stage III | 122 kit. Test Ride & Review
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- In the video I ride a 2022 Road Glide Special with the stage III 122 kit. I rode a new Lowrider S with the same kit and have since called it my favorite cubic inch size in a Harley. After riding the FLTRXS which is a much heavier bike, I stand by that statement.
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The opinions in this video are my own and not in any way representative of Harley Davidson or Timms Harley Davidson.
The 122 kit really delivers the torque where most of us older long-distance riders live and that's between 2500 and 3500 RPM, just about perfect for a touring bike.
I like the stage 3 119/122. You get the bigger 4.155 bores for cubes & flow for easier cylinder fill without being so thin that it has less material for heat dissipation. And cylinders that when overheated go out round so easily as with the 4.310 128/131. You also get the 11-1 pistons for better efficiency and utilizing more cam.
Harley designed a cam for the stage 3 (114/117s) being the SE-498 cam. Oddly they now hold it back with the SE-447 torque cam designed for stock compression motors. I would swap for the better cam & springs if I were buying another stage 3 kit.
Unlike the stage 4 cam that trades bottom end torque for a little high rpm power. The stage 3 cam retains bottom end torque and adds top end power just a little less than the stage 4 cam. More friendly for day to day & in town. My emissions & warranty compliant stage 3 with the SE-498 made 118 HP 122TQ. So a little less than the stage 4 kits but a lot less money & labor. More importantly daily rider friendly & reliable.
37k miles on my stage 3 & 498 cam & zero issues.
I think the 122 is right in that optimal power range for a touring bike to have both performance and the ability to still go on long trips.
Exactly. I’d trust this setup to go anywhere with no problems
I have had 3 Harleys in my life and 1 honda Goldwing. I have never done any motor work other than installing a larger air intake and mufflers for a little more sound and with that, I have ridden all over the country carefree. To me, an upgrade to a Harley Davidson is religious oil changes, brake pad changes, and tires along with washing the bugs off.
Be awesome to see that 122 kit in a new heritage classic. And I think the second camera angle from your buddy is a great addition to your test ride videos 👍🏼
Agreed that would be a great "do it all" bike.
Thanks! Hoping to add a 3rd angle soon.
I have the 114 heritage softail 114 that’s got the screamin eagle stage 2 power cam and goodies done to it. The power is awesome! Lately, I’ve been toying with the idea of doing a stage 3 this winter.
I would really love to see some more videos on the 122.
I have the 122 on a 2020 RGS.. love it.. its perfect for me... runs fantastic and gets 48 mpg...
What header and mufflers did you go with?
@@cmag034 the header came with the 122 kit and tab 4.5 slip ons
What tuner did you go with and do you have dyno numbers? Currently awaiting for my kit to arrive.
@Bryan C SE8 447 torque cam... 115 horse.. 125 torque.... its the cam that came in the kit.. not crazy numbers.. ive got 13500 miles on it and it runs perfect.. no regrets..
@Bryan C i did the SE pro tuner and a SE auto tuner.. with wideband O2 sensors
I just had my 22 ultra Dyno’d with the 122 kit. I also have tab headers, tab 4.5” mufflers with 2.5” baffles, Dyno jet wide band sensors and auto tune installed, an HPi ported intake, fuel moto cold air kit. I got 115hp and 131 lb-ft torque. The Harley cam the dealer installed was the SE8-477. I smile on every ride and enjoy every minute of it!!
This is my favorite of your videos so far. Loved the second cameraman angles on the ride. Loved the 122 acceleration and loved the sound the engine was making. Great fun to watch and great information you are giving us as per usual. Ride safe, regards from Washington state.
I did my ‘18 RGS from a 107 to a 114 Stage 3, header pipe with true duels, no Cat… Dnyo at 126Hp, 129 Ft lbs torque!
The Stage 3 and Stage 4 kits look nice and sound nice on paper. However, I think they’re kinda a waste of money. Because realistically you’ll never be able to utilize all that power on public roads. That’s why I’ll prolly only go as high as a stage 2. Stage 2 gets you a decent spread of power, without severely compromising fuel economy.
I agree. I’ve never been on anything other than my Stage IV roadglide. One thing I really like over stock is passing at highway/interstate speed in 6th gear. Just twist and pull hard.
I love the 122, I dislike the S.E tuner for it. Mine is currently getting the Star Racing 30/30 and Power Vision tuner
Nice I was wondering what your dyno numbers are. fuel injectors 5.5? thanks
what is the bottom end like idle to 2500 rpm around town
Now in 2023 these kits seem hard to find, HD wants to sell the really big ones, but I prefer the “usable power” you talk about here. I just bought the kit and am excited to get it installed. It may be a bit expensive for many people but it is cheaper than buying one of the new big baggers!
I have the Stage 3 in my 2020 Roadglide Special and it is awesome. Smooth power from the get go
I bought this kit for a brand new 2023 Road Glide Limited. Fair warning!!! If you buy a 2023 as of today HD still has not released the tune to the dealerships.
So…. I’m about to make my first payment on my bike that is still not in my possession!!!! Make sure you are willing to wait a while if you add this!!!
Thanks for posting I guess amazing how many people have mega money 30 $40,000 to buy a stock bike and two or three more thousand to make it go boy there's a lot of bikes out there
Love my 131 kit with a header and a PV
Love your channel, my man-very informative. Also, love the scenery in the upstate! Getting ready to pull the trigger on a new Street Glide-gonna be talking to Tim’s before I make a decision👍
Very appreciated man! I love it up here too! Tell them you watch the channel and I said to take care of you!
@@throttleblip9854 will do, no doubt. Maybe they’ll give you a t-shirt for the referral🤔😆
Hey I’m the guy that passed you going up the mountain on the BMW R1250GS 😐 I knew passing you and leaving you would not be a problem because of your lack of lean angle but your bike sounded really good 👍
Yup and looks good lol
Sounds GREAT ! Nice to be able to waranty the work for a few years and get piece of mind ...
You think you can do a full review on the SE stage 2 torque/power cam kits sometime? I like to run my RPMs at about 3500. Great review as always!!!
+1 I actually got that on my ‘21 RK Standard a couple months ago- pretty darn noticeable diff in torque. Good video as always.
Great idea, viewing what goes in gives us a better idea of what this kit really is … thanks
That follow camera view is killer. 👍🏼 Definitely keep using it.
That's always been the plan just hard to get people to come help! haha. I can't go back now though...
I’ve been sitting here contemplating the 122 for my Ultra Limited I have a full exhaust, an intake, the tuner and the torque cam/stage 2. I’ve also been thinking about getting a RG Standard and doing a stage 3 on the 107, bringing it to a 119.
I have the 131 in my LRS, wish I would have waited and did the 122.
122, will be in the CVO, 2023
I think so too.
Good vid. I can definitely say that you ride in a way higher RPM than I typically do. The entire time I was listening, but thinking shift up on the long straight ways. lol
2021 FXFBS with this kit but with 475 cam. 132/149. Happy camper here!
Me too. Got a 18 RK with 122 and 475 and pv-2b tuner. If you add the 64mm throttle body, ported heads and the new wedge air cleaner you can bump your numbers up to 145/150 like I did.
For me going larger than 122ci is not worth the loss of gas milage trade off.
My build smoked my mileage lol. I only have a 3 gallon tank and get about 80 miles to a tank.
how’s 122 compare to 131? that would be a cool video. the following camera was a good addition!
The 131 I tried was also on a Road Glide Special. It's fun, a lot of fun so don't get me wrong. It's just so much I can't see it being practical in the curves or mountains. For me I'd feel confident saying I'd be faster time wise on the same course with the 122. Straight line the 131 would eat it. Red light to red-light would be the same as long as you get traction lol. To me a 122 and some high end suspension would never leave you wanting more.
Thanks! I had a 3rd camera angle but felt that was too choppy. Gonna try and make it work so future test rides are more interesting to watch!
I went 131 stage IV. I don’t regret it. Probably would have been fine just doing a stage II or at most a stage III. Save the pile of money.
@@throttleblip9854 I absolutely agree with your opinion and I have the 131 on my SGS.
Can get a 128 zippers kit for 1,895.00 but don't be Fooled with any of these kits because there is a lot of upgrades that need to be done after the kit compensator conference later clutching And several others Sure makes a nice ride though 1600 to 1800 labor .
I think the phrase you're looking for is "diminishing returns"
can you go bigger? yes! is it worth it? maybe not.
I believe you're correct. its about usability!
Thank you for the great video!
Question, after upgrading from a stage 2 114 SE kit to a stage 3 122 kit, how would you break in the engine? Appreciate your time to respond and educate..
I did this from a stage 2 114 to a stage 3 122. Dealer said ride lime I want to, however I did a "break in" like it was a brand new bike because new cylinders and pistons. Everything seated fine, bike runs great, no complaints. The torque harley cam is kinda modest. Thinking about something a bit more aggressive, but I haven't found anything or anyone who has it on youtube
131/143 with a Cyclerama 483 cam...55 mm SE maifold 5.5 injectors..Fullsac header / kromewerks mufflers...
Robert Norris----> I have 128-inch M8 engine, 11.2 compression, 5.5 injectors, HPI 62 mm manifold, HPI 62 throttle body. Fuel Moto RTX two-into-one exhaust, Power Vision fuel tuner, Ventilator Extreme air cleaner, Cycle Rama 483 cam. 141 torque from 3,150 to 4.800 RPMS. 136 HP.
This comment!
Feels like you can spend 1/3 of the money going out of warranty to get the same result
Did the bike throw a code? Noticed at the beginning of the video the light was out and then towards the end the light came on. Looked like it or maybe it was the sun. Great video!
I don't think so. With the GoPro sometimes shutter speed makes lights do weird things. I know the gas light was on and low tire pressure came on later. lol
@@throttleblip9854 Go back and check the video when you made that left waiting on traffic and then gave it some throttle.
Looked like the low fuel light.
Stage 5 come on already 170 plus H//P in my low rider s
lol not I agree I have stage 2 se next year will be the stage 3 and that will do me just fine!
Ride safe!
How's the stage III sound compared to stock? does the stage 3 cam make any justice to what a harley should sound or is it worth getting an aftermarket cam for a improve sound and a a few additional torque and horsepower? thanks man, much appreciate it ;)
Honestly I hear so many Harleys they don't really phase me anymore. That said, when you start this bike up it made myself and everyone standing close by turn and look. It's got that deep lope that lets you know something is going on inside.
That said I've heard plenty of aftermarket cams that made some good sound and power.
Looks like the perfect displacement. What exhaust and pipes are on it? Thanks for the review!
Definitely packs a punch!
Kind wish I went stage 3 but no telling extra labor for that. I’m getting stage 2 within 2 weeks they ordered parts today
Awesome video what are your Dino numbers?
That one wasn't my bike but im doing a 128 in one of my personal bikes as we speak. I'll include videos with dyno in there. Video should be out by the weekend! My stock 107 made 78hp and 103tq.
@@throttleblip9854 that’s so awesome and I can’t wait to see your new video on your 128 bill so how you’ll be looking forward to it🏆👍
Great share Fam 🤙🏾🔥
Thanks 💯
Sounds great!!
Harley dont list this kit on their website anymore
You can find it on the internet, not easy to get though. They are on back order and last time I looked, no release date ...
i have 122 is the best better than 131 , 122 is sometimes little to much for the Harley experience , but a 131 will be more worst
That price isn’t that bad
Not really. Especially for someone like me who can't see myself needing or wanting anything over that.
What was the cost to install just the kit??
Do you know what exhuast and head pipe?
No reason the Cvo’s don’t come standard with this engine
Didn’t know you were allowed out
Let’s go!!! 🤙🏾🔥
Brandon? Haha.
@@tetlow2 lmao
Any break in period for the 122 SE kit?
I think all kits require a 1000 mile breakin
Did you have to change your valve springs on 11.0:1 compression ?
not with the 447 cam lift
Only change springs over 485 lift
make me jealous ☹︎
You hit 90 easy.
Shift the bike brother lol da fuck
Bike sounds mean
It's wicked.
HD says 15% more HP and 13% more torque when compared to original engine configurations . But they dont tell us what those configurations are.
I want to put this Stage III kit on my Street Bob 114.
Sounds great 😊