131 C.I. Stage 4 Screamin' Eagle Road King Special Harley-Davidson Test Ride
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Stage 4 Screamin' Eagle Stage 4 kit installed on a 2020 Road King Special. Kraus Inverted front forks using Olhins Suspension are a feature as well on this performance bagger Harley-Davidson. Matt Laidlaw goes into detail on the parts installed on this bike. Other features include factory 47 bars, CFR Exhaust, LED lighting, "End Game" foot control collection, etc. Matt takes it for a ride down the 10 Freeway.
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What is this bike over $40,000.
djjmplus3 guys paid that and more 14 years ago for some stupid 300 tire chopper! That you could not ride for 75 miles! These hi powered m8 bikes are cheap!
3XR5 yep with a Wood cam in it! 225hp is here in the near future! Go look at Gardner Racing in Maine and their builds!
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If you want to go fast, don't buy a HOG. Go buy yourself a crotch rocket instead of a cruiser [traditionallly known as standard] motorcycle. Harley guys are hilarious.
Just my opinion as expensive as new Harley-Davidsons are most of this should come standard there's a lot of good bikes out there
Just my opinion. Don't ride a Harley then
None as good as the new Harleys!
2020 Special
@@rawdawgg_ wrecked 🤣🤣🤣
@@rawdawgg_ true but it is annoying lol
good bikes as in the ones you aren’t riding? Ain’t nothing better than a Harley. Don’t try to justify your lack of one
Matt you’re the REAL DEAL. You were upfront about buying the 131 kit and the bike still having a governor set @ 111-112 mph. That’s a lot of money to do the same top speed as stock
True. But you get to that top speed much faster
Top speed is over rated, acceleration is best.
If you want high speed get a sport bike of some flavor. I have a 2018 triumph rocket 3 and it is also limited (125 ) but for a big heavy bike that is fast enough for me. I like how the bike gets there in a hurry.
Road King Specials are IMHO the most under appreciated bike in the Harley Line. Agreed on the factory brakes. Those new wheels look sharp. Ride Safe Bro’s 🤙🏼
Man, he went all out on that beast! Love to do that kit on my 114 Heritage! Thanks Matt!
If you don’t live in an emissions state just do an aftermarket camshaft and head pipe. Will make the same power as the 128. Here is a dyno of a 114 and 117 with a camshaft upgrade other than harleys.
imgur.com/gallery/70cFO3c
This bike is wild I can not believe the power they are getting out of this engine buuut I can not see buying a bike for 20+ thousand than sinking another 15-20 thousand to get to this point.
Its only money, and its his money !! Same could be said with many cars, buy hey, if you cant see the point, stick to your scooter @@
This guy may have spent that much altogether, suspension and whatnot, but... You can do just a motor build Way cheaper than that. Honestly, on a m8 a stage two can get pretty good numbers. Beyond that, handlebars and rear suspension are all you need to change. So $1-2k and a person can be sittin pretty happy.
How long will that 131 last? 🤣
@@mixalis6168 Sorry I expressed my opinion KAREN your probably one of those that dont care and in debt up to you eye balls!
I eventually want a sport glide with that 131 in it once my dr bills are caught up after having pancreas issues . But for now my sporty does ok
Hope it clears up 👍
I have a 2019 Road King Special with the generation one, stage 4 kit. It gets up and moves. It’s taken a little getting used to bopping around town. The throttle is sensitive and there have been moments where I think my wife has been holding on for dear life riding two-up. What it excels at is highway cruising, long days, big miles where it effortlessly runs at high speeds and always feels like it has more to give. It’s an amazing engine. I went from a torque stage 2 on my FXDWG to this and honestly the stage 4, in my opinion, feels comparable to that. My son rides the FXDWG now and we’ve done a little friendly stop light, quarter mile and while he gets off the line a little faster, it’s not by much and the the 117 gets him every time. I know that is really a bit of apples to oranges but my point is, I don’t really feel like you’re giving up too much low-end torque on the generation one stage 4. Certainly what you do gain, as Matt mentioned, is a TON of high-end cruising and passing power. If you have a chance to give one a spin (stage 4 bike, that is) I’d recommend doing it. The sensation and feel are difficult to describe; it’s just immensely powerful. And if you take a passenger, a standard sissy bar is strongly recommended (that’s from my wife). Happy riding and be safe out there.
PS- what was the rise on those handle bars? They look amazing. The stock Road King Special bars are terrible.
Nice thing about the 131” is that because it’s a big motor it pulls down low too.
Wow. This is one of the best looking bikes I've ever seen; such great taste and execution!!
Great review as always Matt! I've been watching your videos since I bought my first M8 when they first came out (late 2016, wrecked that 17 in 2019) and I always appreciate your in site and honest reviews. I am on my 2nd M8 bike now and this time when I went shopping the 131 had been out for about 6 days so I jumped in and went with a 131 for this SGS and you are right, it is an absolute beast!! I love everything about it except the governor (why so slow too :'( )... I am actually on the 2nd 131 motor in my bike now, the first one blew up in less than 200 miles (not beating on it either, grey case silicone ended up getting through the system and plugging the rear lower oil jet causing a melt down on the rear cylinder). But, thankfully Harley 100% backed everything and with the help of my local dealership I am back up and ripping (127HP and 139FT/LBS)!! I highly recommend it to anyone who is looking for insane, seemingly endless (up to 108-110mph) power! The bikes already do ride like a dream, but adding this motor puts a BIGGER permanent smile on your face when you ride it!
Seriously sick build. Performs as good as it looks from what you say. Great vid and hats off to Jim for letting us all get to see it on a run.
Can only try to imagine that ride, torque and handling. 👌
Matt, I just install a 131 Kit on my 2020 Street glide S, It is the first bike in Honolulu to have the SE 131 Kit install on Street glide S. Cycle City Hawaii install the kit. You 100% Correct the horsepower and torque is unbelievable. My twin cam engine motors are no comparison to M8 131 engine. Your video are very informative . I enjoy your channel.
This is maybe the most beautiful road king special I’ve ever seen.
finally! somebody did a RK up exactly the way I would want it
The first ten seconds should be a ring tone! Just awesomeness!!
LOVE THIS 131 Road King Special BUILD!!! Great job Jim! Both Matt and Jim give great feedback about the build. I will add to it in hopes it gives you more useful information in deciding to upgrade to this kit or not.
I ride a 2017 SGS that started off as a 107. Want to first start off by saying I use all Harley parts to keep my warranty and extended service plan. After purchase of the bike and riding for 10,000 miles, I did a Stage 1 using HD Pro Street Tuner and Smart Auto Tuner, then at 15,000, bumped up to Stage 2 Performance cam. After 30,000 miles, I upgraded to the 128 kit with upgraded oil pump and Screaming Eagle clutch and springs.
After the break-in of 500 miles/2,500 rpms, I finally was able to start getting into the throttle and this is a TORQUE beast!! It is manageable to ride around town in normal riding conditions but once you get into the throttle and the engine hits 3,500 rpms, hold on! Takes off like a rocket. You will get to 100 quick and I would say 0 - 60 a little bit around 3 seconds. The clutch is going to be stouter; Jim compensated for it as Matt describes at 8:55. I went with the Oberon adjustable clutch (and break) levers which work out great and I don't void my warranty/ESP.
I have learned to hold onto the left grip tightly before I throttle on. After I rode for 1,700 miles of all types of riding conditions, I went back to have the data from the Smart Auto Tuner downloaded into the ECM and what a huge difference it made!!! This is a lot of power to respect. Both the 128 (121hp/126trq) and 131 (121hp/131trq) have very close hp/torque numbers that you can’t tell the difference. You want to pass a semi on the highway, no problem. You want to pass a car, no problem. You want to get to 100 quickly, no problem. I did spin the back tire going from 4th to 5th passing a group of cars on a two-lane straight away so I just keep it in one gear when passing.
Keep your distance from any other vehicle/motorcycle in front of you because a twist of the throttle and you will be on them before you know it. I ride in the very back in group riding now because I can keep a further distance. If I lead, I tend to leave the group behind without realizing it. Riding the motorcycle for these distances between factory and upgrades, you will notice you will have to ride the motorcycle different than previously before. Matt and the folks at Laidlaw give straight up honest reviews of these upgrade kits in previous videos, just depends on what you want, riding style and budget. Stage 2 torque or performance cam with HD Pro Street & Smart Auto Tuner is most bang for the buck keeping warranty and ESP. Anything beyond that is more power/torque according to your riding style.
With the 128/131 kit, you are running a lot of torque and thus have to adjust going into different types of corners but coming out and giving it throttle is an absolute blast. Meaning you have to find out what gear and speed to be in before going into a certain type of corner and how to throttle out of it. They say the M8 engine is designed to perform in the upper rpm range so you just have to be willing to ride it there. Don't buy a Stage 2 Performance cam, Stage 4 or Big Bore kit unless you are willing to ride in the upper rpms otherwise you are just wasting your money. The engine is powerful and torqued so to me putting this in a softail frame is probably why Harley isn't offering it. I think you need the extra weight of the touring frame for the engine kit and the ability to cool it. I would look at getting a super sport if you want to go lighter and faster.
There are those who will say “this or that” company makes better “this or that” parts better but I don’t wrench, don’t care too, don't care to spend thousands experimenting, don't care to go above 110 mph, don't care to line-up and the warranty/ESP is important to me. This kit has all the power you need on the road. In my opinion, anything above it needs to be on a track to enjoy it. I don't care to Dyno for numbers because this is just FUN and a BLAST to ride and that's all that matters to me. For those who say why doesn't Harley just include this with a bike coming off the factory line, I would say not many folks need or have the experience for this much power. This way, you have options to buy whatever you want, whatever color, whatever options, whatever accessories and can upgrade the engine if you desire. It costs a bit more but not everyone needs this much power.
Now, if you made it this far, take into consideration the Dyno numbers of the kits. You can get a new Road King, Street/Road Glide standard with a 107 and do the 128 upgrade kit plus keep the 2 year warranty and ESP if purchased. Get it all done at the time of purchase. Very good deal for the budget minded buyer.
I'm a chrome guy buy this bike is awesome!
He went all out. Super clean and sleek from front to back. Very well done.
The owner definitely went all in, haha. He's the man.
Its 3am and I just figured this out! I need to fly to LA, and buy my next bike and then ride it back to VA Beach!! Can you say O'Hellyeah!!
One Bad Ass Roadking!! Long live the KING!!!
100%! Absolutely stunning. Olins were a great choice. Nice job Laidlaw’s. Ride safe and ride often. Peace.
Nice job! Just purchased the 2021 Road King Special in Deadwood Green yesterday. Would love to see the customer's build spec list on this bike sometime (although you do a good job of identifying all the components verbally very well). Thanks for always producing and providing such high quality and informative videos. We appreciate you here in Northern Colorado, Matt. With respect, Kevin F.
I'm glad you explained that was the camera clipping the audio. I thought there is no way in hell I could ride that thing, but once you got the audio sorted, it sounded fine.
Watching that speedometer climbing in the intro,
BLEW MY MIND.
Absolutely beautiful motorcycle! I bet she rips no problem!! I did some calculating... woo... hope you're sitting down!
RKS in Vivid Black is $22,999, plus $299 California emissions, plus $435 freight, plus tax, tag, title and dealer fee... 131 Kit is $3495 plus labor, so probably $5k total, Kraus front end kit is $5.9k plus labor, rear end kit is $1k plus labor, floorboards/highway pegs/shifter/brake peg/heated grips/derby cover/mirrors probably add up to $2k, bars were probably $1500-2k installed, pipes were roughly $800 plus install so $1k...
My rough calculation is around $44k all in... Not too bad... cheaper than a CVO!
The seat.... never underestimate the price of a seat lol.
I have to import seats for my Harley's as I live in the UK. I just got a le Pera for my road king and it was like £600 with import fees. Which is like $800. And it's less comfortable.....but looks amazing.
I've got the 117 stage 4 kit and I love it just back from a 700 mile round trip to Cornwall in the UK had a ball may upgrade to a 131 next
It’s awesome. Power everywhere. Eats gas though.
I ride a Stage 2 Road King Special, but it a'int nothing like that! That is the best sounding Harley I have ever heard. As close to perfect as one can get.
like the way the speedometer grays out as the speed gets crazy and those highway bumps now and then and lane splitting - all so gutsy.
I have a 2019 street glide special, but my favorite bike will always be a road king with ape hangers.
Truth
the talk ends here.😏 H-D forever 🖤
Did this rider have to take out a 2nd mortgage, or did they just sell their soul?
Yeah, the spend figure was noticeably absent. What do you think?
All touring bike riders sold their soul
It’s a standard feature after you sign the loan in blood
Way to loud for your headset. Lol
Bike, parts and labor are likely approaching $100k. Just my guess...
@@dogsnmotorcycles 🤑🤑🤑
This is the Darth Vader build to your stormtrooper build! Would be cool to see them side by side.
HAHA yup
Fuckin right!
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BTW, are you still crying those big snowflake tears over Indian Motorcycle Company (IMC)? Lmao.
Facts on facts !
@@Sig721Tau Indian literally has only 3 good bikes, the scout, the ftr, and the challenger. And harley is coming out with 2 new liquid cooled 145hp bikes, so shut up.
Not sure if the owner is going to ride as fast as Matt did 😁😁
Awesome build though, loving the foot controls and those mirrors as well.
Damn you for making me headbang to that intro music! My neck is already sore from headbanging at the Chaos & Carnage Tour 😭
Matt - kudos to the editor for the skilled blurring on the speedo for those nice pulls on the section of the 405 that passes through Mexico… 😉😉
This is it, this is my dream bike I hope on day I could buy this bike and lend my credit card and bike to him and build this exact model
This bike has almost $20k of upgrades. No expense spared. Absolutely sick!!!!
North of 20k brother. Thanks for the comment. 👍🏻👍🏻
HI I LIVE IN QUÉBEC CANADA...AND I WANT TO BUY THE SAME BIKE LIKE THIS WITH YOUR MODS... CAN YOU WRITE THE LIST OF ALL ARTICLES FOR THIS SET UP...PLEASE!!!! Or its possible for you to prepare the same bike and ship at the dealership in my town? SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH I SPEAK FRENCH
The minute you fixed the audio was the very minute that I was starting to type a message that the audio is screwed and all I could hear was teenage mutant ninja cartoon crap. LOL Glad you fixed that!
Pretty sweet bike. I love those Road King Specials and making it more sporty seems like a great idea.
Definitely a sharp bike! He’s rite about the Brembos it’s totally solid! The front fender bro WOW it makes the bike! Nice finished all around 👊 beast 👊
I love this bike! I know it sounds great with the CFR's!
I feel like the cops theme song should be playing in the background. That’s one bad bike. Love the customer build videos.
Matt, Good thing it’s governed at only 111 mph. From the look of your camera lens, I thought you where going to be separated from the bike hitting all those pot holes. We have the same problem in Chicago Illinois, super high taxes and super bad roads! Actually, It’s a shame that beautiful bike is only governed at 111 mph.... my old 1976 750 Honda topped out at 115 mph 44 years ago! And my current bone stock 80 inch 1993 EVO Lowrider can top 111 mph! It must be very frustrating to spend all that money on that beautiful road king only to achieve a governed 111 mph! To each his own I guess. Thanks for the video’s you produce, very much appreciated.
It’s nice that you waited. You can not look at the 128 build instead of the 114 and no longer have to choose between Stage 3 or 4.
You have a beautiful bike I had a 2017 with the 107 and liked it very much. I think you built the perfect Road King. Congratulations!
Beautiful!! If I can make a suggestion, the Koso HD05 Speedo would be a nice addition to this build. Thanks for sharing!!!
I don't see what people like about this speedo. I think it looks like it was designed by a 5-year old.
MATT
You hit every dang question I had! I was always torn between that stage 3 and 4. Front end torque vs top end Hp. Plus the governor question.
Thanks a bunch! Awesome vid. Still hardcore Legends fan myself. Had them all. Nothing beats Legend IMHO. Thanks again. Be safe!
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I get why bikes are set up a certain way to allow for a blank slate for personalized customization. I think why i loved Victory, aside from a solid performance engine that rarely saw the light of garage save for maintenance, is that they gave you customized bikes that all you had to do was get loud pipes and a fuel tuner.
If Harley could do bikes like this road king and made a line of limited edition, i could be a customer for sure. Like the way you did the beach cruisers. More of that for a better price and you can definitely get my attention.
That is a Beautiful bike. You did a great job! Enjoy it, ride safe.
Need to upgrade the speedo to a 250 MPH unit. Other than that, it's spot on.
Your bike looks awesome. I'm not a big fan of the fairings so I'm partial to road kings. You built a winner in my book
I love this bike I got exact same RD-K with 131
Jezuz, I thought the road surfaces were bad here in Edmonton Canada! Lovely bike!!! Love that 131
Awesome build!! I have a 2020 Street glide special with a 131.......It is worth EVERY penny.
Yo Matt ......hope you and the Laidlaw family is good.....been awhile.....love the bike.......Matt got me into buying a bike years ago from watching your awesome videos .....keep up the good work.....stay safe from FL....
Just about perfect! I love the build. If I was following that vision, I'd probably opt for the Stage III here in the Boston, MA area. Nice job Jim and great review as always Matt. Keep up the great work brother
Well, I just remembered this kit is only for M8 Touring, which I do not currently have hahah. No Stage III necessary on this new baby
yup touring M8 only. Thanks for watching and your comment as always. Enjoy your ride
I just like the idea that a Harley dealer is tested products and bikes!
WOW!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻 This king is Fing Bad Ass!!!😍 This vato for sure has some deep pockets!! 🖤 #Chingón
Doing a hundred over those bumps? Not me. Typical Laidlaw shakedown cruise. Lol.
The bike is beautiful but the only thing I could see wrong is that Mat’s sleeves are to short! Lol 👍🇺🇸
Come on Harley Davidson....... Build a screaming eagle edition out of the factory
I have done the kit and can say I see why Harley doesn't put these motors in factory line production bikes including CVOs. Most riders don't need nor can handle the power. For those few who want power, have at it with these big bore kits in whatever touring bike they want. Yes, it will cost extra but again, this ain't for everyone.
@@mojomanmurph1925 LOL 121 hp for how much? my daughters Suzuki GSX-R 750 came stock with 148 hp
. The motor company sells you crumbs at steak prices and that's why its failing so hard right now, they have the ability to revamp and give us state of the art but no the great unwashed gets what they are willing to pay for
@@dinkydotzero My '09 Yamaha R1 comes stock with 180 HP. After mods and tuning, it has 203 HP and I can only ride it for an hour or two. Is it fast? Hell yeah. Is it as cool as my Harley? Hell no. I ride my '18 HD Fatboy S SE Stage IV with 121 HP/130 TQ everyday and IMO, it's much more enjoyable and comfortable.
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@@dinkydotzero these bikes are different man you should go ride one for yourself. Buddy of mine had a tuned 149ci s&s. Literally 185ftlbs by 2,000 rpm. The weight of these bikes and the torque is nuts. Plus riding is different on sportsbikes... its just all horsepower
Nice ride, Harley concept is good. I personally voided my warranty 30 days after purchase d it. A long list but now I am not worried about something shattering or. Plastic breaking.
Matt you can't hide your speed,man.I can tell you was up in the 110 limits.
That note is ballistic!!! Holy shit man, props on that build it’s the sickest I’ve seen that sexy doing it!!!
The ONLY thing I picked out that I wasn’t crazy about is the angle of the bars. I love when they match the fork angle or maybe are a little steeper. Apes just look funny to me pulled back. Otherwise beautiful bike, nice job to those who built it!!! BS about 131 kit not for sale in Cali yet... #commiefornia
Facts
Right!!
That is a bad ass RKS, I mean I’ve never seen anything like that! Nice review Matt!
Thank you!
Id recommend a 131 or 135" for anyone needing a good base for more power than 130hp/130tq or warranty. These set ups installed im sure is 9 to 10k. What most people don't know is the M8 114" can make a reliable high 120s hp/tq for about 4500$. Obviously your harley warranty will be void but these M8s and tanks.
My Christmas wishlist
Performance baggers are king !! Nice build bro :-)
For me personally, the bars need to be about 6in taller and drop the mirrors under the bars. But no way in shit can I afford to put all that into a scoot anytime soon 😂
The intro music is so sick
best king and/or Harley i have ever seen
Love these custom bike build videos!
Ordered my kit today Matt , I feel like a kid at Christmas
Man that's one wild ride.
Nothing witty to say here. Just loving the he build. Thanks for sharing
The Endgame boards and foot controls are so dope
Cool Road King! Jim did an awesome job putting that together. Once upon a time I dreamed of doing something similar to a denim Limited. Ride safe!
I am waiting for my granite 131 kit to ship , can’t wait for the install yes I am getting excited
I had a Road King and loved it . Bought a Street Glide Special and it feels like a much bigger bike even though it is the same frame . I think i am going back to the road king .Will see what they have for 2024 ?
Yes, without the fairing it does seem a bit small and it is about 35-40 lbs lighter.
thanks for explaining that you do not need a stage 3 version, because the extra cubes make up the torque.
Ahhhhhhh yeeeaaaaahhhh
Bad ass king but I would have went with TBars
105 no blur. Hard.
What a bike. Bars are ver😢good? The screen and handlebar set up is excellent. In ‘23 the paint job I like is the denim black.
I feel like my roadliner is keeping up with this all day
This bike is definitely a dream build. My guy rides like a true socal biker though lol
Have you seen the RK Shadetree has on loan from Bert's Barracuda?
Matt you blurred out the the speedo at the end, but not the beginning, at least we know how well that engine works!
Sometimes the speedo fogs up
Matt Laidlaw such a nuisance 🤣
Hey Matt please open an HD dealership in NYC :) We need a guy like you! Awesome job bro
This and CVOs are a little rich for my blood right now, but I'm still loving my electraglide standard after a year. I may hot rod it in the future but that 107 does just fine for me. I have come to love that batwing as well. I tried to pick a bike that had good potential for future customization and road kings, electraglide standards, and street glides have plenty of potential.
Agreed. It’s a great engine stock. The FLHT has lots of customization potential.
DAMN THATS VISCIOUS!
Wished you still did videos like this
Beautiful bike. Love that Harley Davidson sound.
DANG Matt that is a beast and looks like it!
That sound though just... wow
Wow! That baby will stand up and talk on the highway.
Bad ass bike bro thank u for this from cali 🙏
Hell yeah, sounds awesome and you was getin it LoL 😂,fly baby fly 💯👍🏼
Hey Matt ,
Where did get that shirt/jacket that you're wearing on the test ride !??
Thanks Brotherman 😎🤘🌴☀️