Hey Team! Would you rather roll or spray ceilings? I placed timestamps below to help you navigate this video. Enjoy! Painting supplies 00:21 How to paint a ceiling using a roller 02:17 How to paint a ceiling using a sprayer 05:11
This is how it's done and you know. How you do it all yourself is a mystery ... must have a strong family loving you and excited for you and supporting you. All the best man!!! great great great
Hey Thor! I do have a great family to deal with. After working most of the day there is nothing better than spending time with them. Of course it’s always an obstacle juggling work and life. Thanks a lot for watching!
Very informative! Straight to the point, with great step by step instructions. I also agree that unless you are going to be doing alot of painting the roller and cutting brush process is the more budget friendly way to go and will get it done! Don't forget the plastic and frog tape! Ribbit Ribbit!
Flat paint is very forgiving when it comes to flashing. When we use anything with a gloss on a ceiling we roll from one end to the other. I like to have my roller loaded up with paint before I start rolling. I started out using a 9 inch roller years ago, and still do. You can use a small 4 inch roller instead of a brush for the edges if you want. We would thin our paint a little if it covered good with one coat! I've painted for over 35 years, and thinning really helps with heavy textured walls, and ceilings. Nice job! I wish I was there to help! LOL
Sounds like you have a lot of experience David! Yeah nothing wrong with using a 9 inch roller. Whatever works for you is what works! Thanks a lot for watching!
@@TheExcellentLaborer Thanks for the reply! I really wish we had them years ago. It would of saved a lot of time, and time is money! They are a pain to clean though! My old boss who died last year used to say, " Put it on heavy! Paint is cheap!" A few years later he told me, "Paint is expensive!" LOL
I’m a new to your channel and new-ish painter/contractor. I just purchased the same sprayer last week and I referred to your videos to help understand it. It was super helpful!
Awesome video (as always!) -- I can see how spraying a ceiling is a lot quicker with less steps. With my particular applications (mostly re-paint and not new construction) I can't go there as mush as I'd like! I completely agree on the two coats plus primer - "it's never a crime to prime!" - and two primer coats never hurts, especially with a once over sanding between! which by far makes the end result awesome! compared to: 'ok - it's done.' In rolling, namely with the 9" rollers, I've always painted two directions - perpendicular to each other while "feathering to carry the wet line." The larger roller and tray is certainly the way to go! Regardless, it's a challenge on the larger open areas of higher ceilings with higher temperatures and faster dry times at the ceiling level; so yeah two coats are always a must. We can also see it's also very true with the "paint toward the light" direction you provided here. Oh Yeah - and the back roll suggestion after spraying is extremely insightful with respect to any further required work -- Si Muy Bueno Mystro!!! 😎
"it's never a crime to prime!" I love this! Yes back rolling takes more time but a much better job is achieved. Sounds like you have a lot of experience with painting. Your input is always welcomed and appreciated. Thanks C Kuiper!
And now an comparison with a different wall color. Or with textures ceilings ;). With backrolling, it feels easier to just roll all of it. Instead of masking/cleaning out of machines. Plus my expierence is that spraying cost more paint.
Questions! I have a whole new build house (mine) to prime and paint. With the primer, is there any need to back roll since there will be finish coats? Is there a reason to back roll the first finish coat or can I save time and only back roll the second finish coat?
If you use S-W CHB ceiling paint you do not have to back roll the ceiling. Also that tip can leave tracks. Use a green fflp 616 and you are good to go. Done 2-3 hundred this way last 4 years. That ceiling wold be 19 minutes this way.
I stopped back rolling ceilings years ago as well, completely unnecessary with good paint and proper technique and the right tip. CHB sprays nice, and eminence sprays even nicer (and a brighter white). The 616fflp tip is great, even use my 514fflp and 516fflp at times, just depends on which one is cleaner lol. I've knocked out massive 8car garages with 14' ceilings+walls with that setup in 2-3 hours before, from bare drywall to flawless double sprayed nice and heavy. Looked absolutely perfect from every angle.
Perfect. I've done a a few ceilings and got a green 617 tip to spray with low pressure and less overspray. When I sprayed a quality sealer (acrylic resin, not pva) on as a first coat, I noticed my next coats were very smooth... not using a good sealer caused the primer/paint to look uneven as well.
ive sprayed and rolled on a sante fe knock down. Sprayed a ceiling and all walls...no roller at all. amazing coverage. Roller alone actually left more small spots that paint didnt get into. Spray was best 100% Also did cieiling with no cutting. overlap onto walls. The tape with paper the ceiling edge. Work down. Very easy and half the time of rolling
I've learned a lot from your videos and I've watched a lot to get things done. One question Why not just buy a paint and primer mix and save yourself from all that primer time? I just bought all my paint the other day and I went with a paint and primer mix. Is that a mistake?
I use a 4 foot extension pole with a swivel and a 625 tip. 515s are used for trim for smooth finish, but I do production work. Back rolling should not be necessary spraying ceilings though to prevent from having roll marks. Cris cross your sprayed ceilings and fog more than actually spraying it at close range.
If you know you will be painting the walls, something you can do is mask around the perimeter of the wall where it meets the ceiling with the paper on your masker, or use the plastic sheeting if you want to completely cover the walls, up to you. And then you can use a regular roller to cut in, just shove it right into the corner and make sure the paint gets right in there. Saves you from having to go around with the brush. If I were doing a room like this that's what I would do. If you're back rolling I don't really see the point of using the sprayer, unless maybe you had two guys, one spraying and one back rolling. If it's just you then why spray and back roll. Just roll it.
Use a mini roller:whiz roller for perimeter cut ins. You risk damaging the wall with the end of the cage running it the way you suggested. Most of the time you’re fine but why risk it when a whiz roller is faster than trying to ensure the 9” gets the angle
@@asphyxiator5247 I meant to add that, use the whiz roller if you want as well. I've never had a problem with it though, I've never damaged any walls and I've done hundreds, you don't have to press it that hard to get in there. Plus you avoid having to use two separate containers and clean both. Nothing wrong with the whiz though. I've done it before it just takes a bit more time. Also if there is areas where the 9 doesn't fit I'll use it.
No concern on back-brushing the corners? Not in love with the idea of spraying without back-brushing, at least for the first coat. Man, you need another guy. I hate having to put the sprayer down and pick up the roller all the time, so much faster with two people. Also if you spray the ceilings thick and make sure the back-rolling evens things out, you can get away with one coat.
Hey Team! Would you rather roll or spray ceilings? I placed timestamps below to help you navigate this video. Enjoy!
Painting supplies 00:21
How to paint a ceiling using a roller 02:17
How to paint a ceiling using a sprayer 05:11
Spraying gets u a better finish
This is how it's done and you know. How you do it all yourself is a mystery ... must have a strong family loving you and excited for you and supporting you. All the best man!!! great great great
Hey Thor! I do have a great family to deal with. After working most of the day there is nothing better than spending time with them. Of course it’s always an obstacle juggling work and life. Thanks a lot for watching!
We have a new build and we’re ready to start painting. Totally undecided what why to choose for the painting, roller v sprayer.
Great video 👏
I like watching your videos because they are all about building your own house and saving a ton of money 💰 👍
Its all about building a better tomorrow. Thanks for the comment Charles!
Sprayed for a few years love your spray roller technique. Going to try, all new construction. ❤
Very informative! Straight to the point, with great step by step instructions. I also agree that unless you are going to be doing alot of painting the roller and cutting brush process is the more budget friendly way to go and will get it done! Don't forget the plastic and frog tape! Ribbit Ribbit!
Flat paint is very forgiving when it comes to flashing. When we use anything with a gloss on a ceiling we roll from one end to the other. I like to have my roller loaded up with paint before I start rolling. I started out using a 9 inch roller years ago, and still do. You can use a small 4 inch roller instead of a brush for the edges if you want. We would thin our paint a little if it covered good with one coat! I've painted for over 35 years, and thinning really helps with heavy textured walls, and ceilings. Nice job! I wish I was there to help! LOL
Sounds like you have a lot of experience David! Yeah nothing wrong with using a 9 inch roller. Whatever works for you is what works! Thanks a lot for watching!
@@TheExcellentLaborer Thanks for the reply! I really wish we had them years ago. It would of saved a lot of time, and time is money! They are a pain to clean though! My old boss who died last year used to say, " Put it on heavy! Paint is cheap!" A few years later he told me, "Paint is expensive!" LOL
I’m a new to your channel and new-ish painter/contractor. I just purchased the same sprayer last week and I referred to your videos to help understand it. It was super helpful!
Hey Sarah! I’m glad I could help. So far it has been a great sprayer. Good luck with your business!
Awesome video (as always!) -- I can see how spraying a ceiling is a lot quicker with less steps. With my particular applications (mostly re-paint and not new construction) I can't go there as mush as I'd like! I completely agree on the two coats plus primer - "it's never a crime to prime!" - and two primer coats never hurts, especially with a once over sanding between! which by far makes the end result awesome! compared to: 'ok - it's done.' In rolling, namely with the 9" rollers, I've always painted two directions - perpendicular to each other while "feathering to carry the wet line." The larger roller and tray is certainly the way to go! Regardless, it's a challenge on the larger open areas of higher ceilings with higher temperatures and faster dry times at the ceiling level; so yeah two coats are always a must. We can also see it's also very true with the "paint toward the light" direction you provided here. Oh Yeah - and the back roll suggestion after spraying is extremely insightful with respect to any further required work -- Si Muy Bueno Mystro!!! 😎
"it's never a crime to prime!" I love this! Yes back rolling takes more time but a much better job is achieved. Sounds like you have a lot of experience with painting. Your input is always welcomed and appreciated. Thanks C Kuiper!
walking while your spraying ceilings is for amatures... you dont trust your overlap or dont know how...
@@TheExcellentLaborer yep,. boat loads of "practice" with the A-Z
ceiling specific inline handle is nice if you do a lot of ceilings less fatigue on the user I love mine
Very good just learned something new about spraying thank you
Thanks a lot Howard! I appreciate you coming on my video. Stay tuned for more!
Great video thanks
@@DeanRausch I appreciate that. I’m glad it helped!
And now an comparison with a different wall color. Or with textures ceilings ;).
With backrolling, it feels easier to just roll all of it. Instead of masking/cleaning out of machines.
Plus my expierence is that spraying cost more paint.
Questions! I have a whole new build house (mine) to prime and paint. With the primer, is there any need to back roll since there will be finish coats? Is there a reason to back roll the first finish coat or can I save time and only back roll the second finish coat?
If you use S-W CHB ceiling paint you do not have to back roll the ceiling. Also that tip can leave tracks. Use a green fflp 616 and you are good to go. Done 2-3 hundred this way last 4 years.
That ceiling wold be 19 minutes this way.
I stopped back rolling ceilings years ago as well, completely unnecessary with good paint and proper technique and the right tip. CHB sprays nice, and eminence sprays even nicer (and a brighter white). The 616fflp tip is great, even use my 514fflp and 516fflp at times, just depends on which one is cleaner lol. I've knocked out massive 8car garages with 14' ceilings+walls with that setup in 2-3 hours before, from bare drywall to flawless double sprayed nice and heavy. Looked absolutely perfect from every angle.
Very interesting. I’ll have to give it a shot on the next house. I appreciate you watching Brian!
Perfect. I've done a a few ceilings and got a green 617 tip to spray with low pressure and less overspray. When I sprayed a quality sealer (acrylic resin, not pva) on as a first coat, I noticed my next coats were very smooth... not using a good sealer caused the primer/paint to look uneven as well.
ive sprayed and rolled on a sante fe knock down. Sprayed a ceiling and all walls...no roller at all. amazing coverage. Roller alone actually left more small spots that paint didnt get into. Spray was best 100% Also did cieiling with no cutting. overlap onto walls. The tape with paper the ceiling edge. Work down. Very easy and half the time of rolling
I've learned a lot from your videos and I've watched a lot to get things done.
One question
Why not just buy a paint and primer mix and save yourself from all that primer time? I just bought all my paint the other day and I went with a paint and primer mix. Is that a mistake?
Hello would you still back roll a popcorn ceiling after spraying it and I’m assuming you put paint on the roll?
Now after you sprayed that ceiling are you also spraying the walls or rolling it if it's the same color????
I always do the walls and ceiling separate. I’ll always start out at the ceiling and do the wall second. Hope that helps!
You convinced me to roll paint my ceiling
fews days back I used the roller on ceiling. Just make sure you wear throwable cloths and googles as paint falls down like spray while rolling.
Do I prime the ceiling first before painting?
Yes it’s always best to prime. I hope that helps!
Do you to use more paint spraying vs rolling?
I would say spraying uses more. I hope helps!
they can be equal, but you end up losing more when you have to clean the sprayer or if you calibrate the sprayer higher than needed.
Hey There. I know this is for the purposes of presentation but would you still be moving at a pace where you'd be aiming for keeping wet edges?
Yes keeping the edge wet is important. Hope that helps!
I use a 4 foot extension pole with a swivel and a 625 tip. 515s are used for trim for smooth finish, but I do production work. Back rolling should not be necessary spraying ceilings though to prevent from having roll marks. Cris cross your sprayed ceilings and fog more than actually spraying it at close range.
What if theres windows on 2 sides of house 🤔🤷♂️
Nice video!
Thank you Eddie!
what if there are two windows and a sliding glass door where sunlight enters all of them?
If you know you will be painting the walls, something you can do is mask around the perimeter of the wall where it meets the ceiling with the paper on your masker, or use the plastic sheeting if you want to completely cover the walls, up to you. And then you can use a regular roller to cut in, just shove it right into the corner and make sure the paint gets right in there. Saves you from having to go around with the brush. If I were doing a room like this that's what I would do. If you're back rolling I don't really see the point of using the sprayer, unless maybe you had two guys, one spraying and one back rolling. If it's just you then why spray and back roll. Just roll it.
Use a mini roller:whiz roller for perimeter cut ins. You risk damaging the wall with the end of the cage running it the way you suggested. Most of the time you’re fine but why risk it when a whiz roller is faster than trying to ensure the 9” gets the angle
@@asphyxiator5247 I meant to add that, use the whiz roller if you want as well. I've never had a problem with it though, I've never damaged any walls and I've done hundreds, you don't have to press it that hard to get in there. Plus you avoid having to use two separate containers and clean both. Nothing wrong with the whiz though. I've done it before it just takes a bit more time. Also if there is areas where the 9 doesn't fit I'll use it.
I prefer1/2" to 3/4" nap on my 18's
all depends on texture...
I prefer roller than spray too much overspray dust everywhere etc
If you got to spray and then roll you might as well just roll.
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Thanks Charles!
I might just wash my liners 😝
Walk straight into the room on a morning from scratch roller wins Fact
😎🛠️😎🛠️😎
Thanks Ted!
No concern on back-brushing the corners? Not in love with the idea of spraying without back-brushing, at least for the first coat. Man, you need another guy. I hate having to put the sprayer down and pick up the roller all the time, so much faster with two people. Also if you spray the ceilings thick and make sure the back-rolling evens things out, you can get away with one coat.
Why 3/8 nap
I always use 3/8 nap for all my finish coats. Just my preference. Thanks for watching!
@@TheExcellentLaborer it takes a lot less of a gulp of paint to fill the roller; it's easier to clean - AND - it gits the job dunn! 😎
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If you know how to use a gun spraying is always faster cuz you only have to do one coat
But masking time take longer
Too slow
To big of a tip to be using...to much wasted paint ....