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Emotiva XPA-1L & Red Dragon M-1000. Amazing performance under $1,000
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- Опубліковано 8 січ 2021
- Hey Audio Enthusiasts. Welcome to Episode 11. This is a Cheap Mono Block review of the Red Dragon M-1000 and Emotiva XPA-1L amps. Super amazing budget amps on the used market with big power. I admit up front, I was have a difficult time with shooting this video, I only have Saturday's to accomplish these and my mind was in a bad fog, so I apologize for the gaps. However, I did the research and have lost to link for you below, I hope this helps. For those of you trying to get in touch with me directly, you have access to my Instagram page
Interested in any of the gear after I'm done reviewing it? Visit my website.
2channellistening.com/
/ 2channel.listening
Or my direct email impeculies@gmail.com
Here is the link for the bench test of the Emotiva
archimago.blogspot.com/2019/12...
Here is the 28 page spec sheet on the B&O Ice module ASP-1000 used in the Red Dragons, Wyred4Sound and Bel Canto units
www.sound-power.ru/files/doc/i...
Here are some of the songs used during my listening sessions:
Franz Schubert Sinfonie Nr. 8 - Allegro Moderato
• Schubert: Symphony No....
Norah Jones - Come Away With Me
music.amazon.com/albums/B000S...
Elton John - Madman Across The Water
music.amazon.com/albums/B000V...
Sia - Soon We'll Be Found
music.amazon.com/albums/B07BB...
Thank You to intro music provided by
Bensound.com
"Rumble" composed by Ben Tissot
The System:
Red Dragon M1000 mono blocks
Classe CP-700 preamp
Denon DVD3930CI (CD, DVD, SACD Player)
Marantz ND-8006 (Streaming, USB DAC)
MIT Matrix 18 Speaker Cables
Audioquest Columbia and Audience Interconnects
Audience Power Cables
Source for researching some good hi-end older players:
audiotools.com/sacd.html
Hello 2 Channel Listeners: Update from Red Dragon Audio. Ryan reached back out to me to say that while 2020 drastically postponed development, they are indeed in business and moving forward with a MKIII version of the M1000 and S500 mono blocks. No secret sauce or changes divulged. However, that's some good news!
Enjoying the videos. Interesting choices of gear as I have some of the brands you're reviewing, specifically Tekton and Red Dragon. Double Impacts and M500 Mono blocs. The Tektons are flat out the bargain of our time! Friends have Electrons, Impact Monitors, Encores, etc. All just outstanding. The Red Dragons are very much a bargain as well. I've found that like every piece of gear synergy is key. In their case for me, speaker compatibility combined with preamp choice made significant differences. Input impedance had a lot to do with the way they presented themselves. Tube preamps combined with a 10K input impedance of the amps was not ideal in my case. Tubed ARC SP-16 or Audibile Illusions M3A proved to be not as good as with SS Nuforce P-8, which was incredible! Now using the RD's with an old Pioneer Spec-1 preamp, Infinity RS4000, Marantz UD-5005 Universal Disc Player, Technics 1200MK2, etc in bedroom system. Magnificent!! Tried RD's with my Maggie 1.6 and Vandersteen 2CE, GREAT. Not good with Vandersteen 3ASIG but I think the tubed ARC SP16 was not a good match. I may have missed what preamp you were using. Let us know if/when you find out status of Red Dragon? Thanks again for discussion.
Okay i see you're using Classe preamp, SS! Great match I'm sure with the RD's.
Hi Billy, thanks for sharing your system and experience with various Tektons. Have you had some good seat time in front of your friends Encores? They look so impressive. Nice to meet another RD owner. I certainly will let you know if they contact me back.
The Classe CP is the best preamp I've owned to date and I've had some really good tube preamps, this Classe splits the difference sonically, absolutely love it. Cheers!
@@2ChannelListening Heard Encore's a couple of times. Sounded great but were in a somewhat small room and would have liked to have heard them in a larger space.. More time with Electrons, Impact Monitors and Double Impact SE's. Same signature sound throughout. Tweeter array and the way they're crossed over is the magic I believe. Thanks for your reply. I look forward to seeing more of your videos.
Hopefully you can get your hands on a used pair of odyssey audio amps. Would really like to hear your opinion
Worth a shot. Thanks.
Its not Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer nose! Its Dragon Eyes Honey!! Aaaaaaaahh!!
:-)
Should check out Outlaw audio 2200 Mono blocks $300 per amp.
Thanks for the recommendation, that's a slim little mono amp. Have not heard a G class product yet.
I'm been trying to decide what budget amp I she get. I been watching your videos about the peach tree and I found some refurbished ones but now I'm thinking about emotiva mono blocks which I been leaning towards already. Basically I am starting off where you were with a newer pioneer elite which sounds good and has good power but some of my speakers are big I want to get the most. What do you recommend for the money.
The XPA HC-1's are a great place to start. Harder to find, but for around $700, those XPA-1L's are a bargain as well. I'm not a fan of the full size chassis versions, they do not fit on most racks, obnoxiously deep. Still cheap horsepower and they perform better than most audiophiles would like to admit. Don't overlook VTV either. vtvamplifier.com/
@2ChannelListening thanks I appreciate! Your the best I was Bing watching your videos yesterday and see how much of your own time and money you put into it and actually care about helping people out and I been listening to music through my pioneer elite which is where I saw you started with. I have always owned silver faced receivers but I wanted something for movies but I been getting serious about audio and I feel I am missing our on things and I took a lot of time and money building big beautiful speakers I want to get the most out of them. Thanks again for your help.
@@BostonMike68 Absolutely, thank you for all the views sir! Good luck with your search.
@2ChannelListening thanks again I never heard of vtv but looked at there site
Nice piece of content, you're doing just fine. Stick with it and learn as. you go. What you're experiencing is pretty common for content creators... you're just too close to it. Yes you're rambling a bit at times but you're also imparting some very well-articulated information with real-world experience. If bet if you ask around, you'll find that most of the folks trying to do this on UA-cam go through the same process. If you're not an experienced content producer, it's really eye opening how much work goes into video production. Once you've decided to make this an ongoing thing, think about learning iMovie or Adobe Premiere... those editing tools will allow you cut these down to more manageable lengths. But they are an investment.
I'm always drawn to folks who can listen to a lot of different gear and spend time with it and get familiar with it. This is the third such channel I've recently discovered and I'm enjoying hearing about your experiences. As a Zu Omen Dirty Weekend owner, I'll be really interested to hear your take but I'm not looking for affirmation... just different points-of-view.
Great stuff, thanks for doing it!
David, this is very thoughtful and appreciated. I hate to make excuses, I would love to spend even more time on the production and writing out scripts, but I have a very full time day job. Getting into a rhythm with the cycle, product tear down and listening time is what I really focus on. I'm pretty confident these will get better with each release - heck, just my first two videos were cutting my teeth to stare at a camera (versus a person), awkward.
I appreciate this encouragement that I am on the right trail with a good portion of my viewers. Alta Audio IO's 1/16. ZU Omen DW 1/23. Thank you so much!
Damn son, 39 minutes! I'm old, hope I make it to the end........., I'll try
Ha ha, I feel your pain Mike. Thanks.
try 1.5 speed or 1.75 for Eminem speed
How do I ensure that I don't get ripped off on hifishark?
Hi Gilbert, I hope this helps. Thanks for asking.
"Is Hifi Shark a marketplace? No, Hifi Shark is a search engine that will help you find second hand hifi equipment in for sale on any of a large number of other sites." www.hifishark.com/faq
@@2ChannelListening Yes I'm aware but how do u go about asking the owner questions to ensure the item is in good working order and that it gets shipped to you?
@@cybergod77 HiFi Shark only tells you what's listed, from which marketplace website. If it pulls in an Ebay listing, you click on the link and chat with the owner through Ebay...same with US Audio Mart or Audiogon.
any opinions on these vs schiit monoblocks(real monoblocks?) especially with tekton speakers??
Hello Michael, here is my thoughts on the Schiit Aegir stereo/mono's. They are a good amp to try "IF", you are willing to pay going rates or retail for them, to only have a max of 80 watts on hand. If these and the Tekton's are going to be your gear of choice for a good long while, then you should be happy for a good long while.
However, if you ever get rid of the Tektons, you still have to find other high efficiency speakers that will work with the Aegir's. There are lots of cheap, good amps to be had that do not work as room warmers, the novelty of class A can wear thin really quickly if ventilation is an issue and or you like to run your gear for hours each day. The great thing about Tekton's is they are less picky with amps, whereas the Aegir's are going to be picky with speakers by design. Cheers.
@@2ChannelListening thank you tektons are definitely on my short list.
Subscribed! You sound honest. But the there's a bit of repetition and the video is getting dragged quite a lot. Try and keep it more concise. Nevertheless, I like what you're doing 🍻
Hello Capt Gugu, thank you for the Sub. Your criticism is very fair and something I am working toward as I get more practice. Thank you sir.
@@2ChannelListening thank you. I've been watching almost every channel that's doing audio reviews, but none that connected with me as instantly as yours. The very fact that I noticed you picking gear that's used and within the average man's spending reach, I knew we had something here. Keep them coming.🍻
@@captgugu741 Yes sir, you stated the exact reason that pushed me into making this channel. I'd see one reviewer with a new piece from a manufacturer, and three weeks later ten more guys review the same component. Echo chamber!
I like it that u don't describe sound like some poetic verbage
I try to be realistic without fluff, not always successful, I know. Thank you though.
I’ll sub and check this out
Thank you
Being in Canada, what would suggest as a good source for second hand audio equipment?
Hello Vijayant, have you looked into this... www.canuckaudiomart.com/
@@2ChannelListening Thank you. Yes I often scour this site. Just checking to see if there was anything else. Thanks for your prompt response.
@@vjpeters5326 Absolutely, thank you for coming back to check in. Cheers!
The bandwidth of the amp is a common spec with the really good SS gear going to above 250,000 Hz with some to the MegaHertz range. Amps that spec to 50,000 Hz or 80,000 Hz usually are rolling off by 20,0000 Hz (as in this case) and sound dark, and less extended in high frequencies.
Thanks for sharing!