Joni Eareckson Tada Answers Your Questions
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- Joni Eareckson Tada, from Joni and Friends, answers your questions on suffering.
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I have never witnessed faith like Joni’s. Though this was recorded a number of years ago, what a privilege to be able to watch it today. Thank you, Joni.
She's my spiritual grandmother. I love Joni. ❤ such a beautiful soul.
Thank you Jesus and Joni for allowing HIM TO USE YOU
FOR HIS PURPOSE AND GLORY. YOU ARE LOVED AND APPRECIATED ❤️
Such a beautiful lady inside and out. I am disabled and just so glad that the holy spirit led me to listen to you_Joni. Ty so much!
I am stroke survivor. I live in chronic pain. She has helped me alot. Thank you Jesus for Joni!!!!
Fifty years ago, then a new believer, grateful for 2books. One by Joni Erickson Tada and the other by Corrine ten Boom. Your lives helped me to sustain decades of courage with unseen pain, which also revealed the tender God of the brokenhearted.
Love you Joni. Whenever I'm struggling with anxiety and fear. I watch you and am uplifted. God richly bless you.
I just love this woman of God Joni eareckson tada such an inspiration and an example of perseverance joy and love for the Lord
Joni, I think you are not only unique to God, you are unique to me in so many ways. I feel empathy for your pain because although I am disabled with controlled pain and not half as much as you have bless you. But last Sunday, I fell over, flat on my face😀😃. Since then have had such severe pain have had trouble breathing. Praise God today it is much better and apart from picking things up from the floor (when it bites me!!) am better. I have been thinking about you this week and your lifetime of pain.Am constantly amazed plus your talks, like this one sooo many folk are blessed. Thanks Joni!!
Love from Pauline in Hailsham xx
Yes she is indeed a great Ambassador for Christ ...no matter her suffering...she remains steadfast, faithful and true . A beautiful Sister in Christ both inside and out as the Holy Spirit flows forth through her ❤
I love to start the day with Joni. She is just so pretty and so bright and cheerful !! She has every reason to be miserable.Thanks be to God.
This lady has inspired my life all through my life...she is just so amazing!
Dear Jonie, Thank you so much for your testamonies. I'm also going through deep trials with my health. For five years now I've been dealing with gastroparesis. They'd have tried everything they could possibly think of to try to help me and nothing has worked. I am nauseated just about 24 hours around the clock and always getting sharp stabbing pains in my stomach which takes my breath away. Over the blessed month it has been getting worse even to the point of me taken one little sip of Ensure I'm double over in so much pain. The doctors tell me there is no cure for this and I refuse to go through any more tests when they've already told me there's nothing they can do for me. When the doctor told me I may only have 6 months to live I looked at him and said God is the great physician and I lay all my trust and faith in him he had nothing to say but his nurse gave me a thumbs-up which gave me encouragement. I know this sounds odd but ever since I have gotten worse I have drawn closer and closer to my heavenly father I would not change anything in my life at this point not when I have this relationship with my heavenly father. I know what it's like to be in chronic pain I live in it 24 hours around the clock. Because I not only have gastroparesis put I have severe degenerative disc disease where my lower spine is caving in and the discs are collapsing one-by-one I have gone to see so many orthopedic doctors and they all said I'm too much of a high risk for surgery will just make you comfortable. So I can relate to your pain and praise God how he has worked your entry into an amazing ministry. Praising God and giving him all the glory in Jesus name I pray amen 🙏
You CAN be healed, I HAD gastroperesis too. There’s one thing I learned about healing that I have not really heard anyone teach on. Thankfully I had a very patient spiritual leader who taught me. I got radically born again in 2017, but not healed physically, I was in bad shape with gastroperesis, and arthritis. I was given up to pain drs and went through drug trials for gastroperesis. I couldn’t Understand how I could have the Holy Spirit in my body yet by body overpowered the Holy Spirit. I couldn’t comprehend how the pain in my body was more powerful that God in my body. My spiritual friend keep telling me (for months) , you have what you say and you say what you have, life and death are in the power of the tongue, several scripture that referred to our words. Knowing first hand from experience, people who are sick or in pain or have diagnosis, tend to speak about it, we tell people what’s wrong with us, we complain about how sick we are or how much we hurt, I did this myself everyday, speaking about how terrible I felt. He would say, listen to what you are saying, he would point me also to scripture that says I WAS healed by the stripes of Jesus, not will be, not might be, not we will see, but I WAS. Also that God HAS GIVEN, everything according to LIFE and Godliness. Everything he spoke of, we ALREADY HAVE IT. I still couldn’t understand because all I could see was that I obviously was not healed. However, I finally grew tired of it enough, and my friend was persistent enough that I said ok, I’m going to try this for one week and see, so, I stopped complaining OUT LOUD, how terrible I felt, and I picked two scriptures to say instead, which I said every minute I could think of it and every time I wanted to complain, instead I said the joy of the Lord is my strength, or I thank your Lord that the joy of the Lord is my strength, because I needed strength, and I also said I am healed by the stripes of Jesus, every time I wanted to speak and complain I would say this instead, I said it all day for a week. It was a terrible battle of the mind, I got angry cause I thought I was just lying to myself, I felt stupid, IT WAS NOT EASY, but I did it, and by the end of the week I could tell a legitimate difference. I was exceptionally happy! I told my friend (who remained calm andand collected and just said I’ve been trying to tell you lol). I continued this for a few months before I was completely healed but five years later I’m still healed And have never thrown up again like that. I was so excited to find out that THE WORD WORKS, and IS true. That we can be healed just by not speaking what we see, hear, or feel, and speak the Word only until faith builds and our healing manifests. We have what we believe in our heart, but God said WE ARE HEALED, who’s liar , God, or our circumstances? I believe this is part of “working out your salvation”, sozo (the Greek word for salvation) includes healing. I’ve also learned, for people who learn to get their healing like this, it’s harder for the devil to steal, of you “lose it”, you know how to get it back. I was so excited when I found this key to healing, I tried to tell every sick Christian I know, the problem is, when they don’t see a difference right away, they give up too soon. The other problem is they try to speak the Word AND THEIR PROBLEM, either complaining about the symptoms, or telling the diagnosis. You can’t do that, it’s one or the other but not both. You cancel out the Word with the other words you speak. REMEMBER, GOD SAYS WE ARE HEALED. Also remember the scripture says you have what you SAY, and you SAY what you have. He’s being literal here. I didn’t understand for the longest that that scripture was literal and that I truly had what I kept saying I had. Sickness, pain, suffering. ALSO, DO NOT LISTEN to the people who say “oh that’s name it and claim it, or new age manifesting”. The devil o is a liar and takes what is God’s and twists it, so that now Christian’s will not walk in what is theirs because they think it’s a new age doctrine or something. That’s why it works for the world, because it’s a principle of God that the world stole. Note there is a fine line, you can’t just say positive things, or listen to that power of positive thinking stuff. IT MUST BE SCRIPTURE ONLY THAT YOU SPEAK, not just “good things”. I know this belongs to God’s people because God taught me that, I was and am following and chasing after only him, and only his will.
Dear Joni, through all you endure l think of Job who was tested to the limit but did not curse God.
You have joy and strength and peace in the Holy Spirit.
There seems to be many many Jobs out there.
I myself have lost loved ones and my health also is brain tumours. But l was angry at first...but now l thank the Lord for each day.
I evangelise online..l shall continue this. Even one on one l shall witness Christ jesus to them.
God bless you
God bless you and still beautiful after all these years serving Jesus.......
Isn't she just stunning inside & out. God bless her !!! Xxx
Thank you so much for this wonderful perspective shift on suffering. You have really helped me rethink my attitudes and I am very grateful, both to you and to God. Chronic pain and suffering are very hard, but now I see the purpose in it and that really helps.
I wish I could meet Joni & tell her that the first 16 minutes of this interview, I felt like she was talking to me! Especially the question about invisible disabilities. I nearly cried! I totally cried on the inside. I had to stop the video, write this comment, & finish the video another day. Thank You, Jesus, for Joni.
I needed this this morning. So many uncertainties going on,and seeing all the pain in the world keeps my heart in tears!!
Thank you
Many Blessing from me and my angel Michael who eent to heaven after 45 years if intense vsuffering!!
Thank you Johnny for giving me good tears to cry and sadness at the same time for what is going on in Isreal, Ukraine and ither places!!
Sam my nick name from mountains if Tn. Its May ,17 2024!! 🙏❤🙏♥️ 🙏❤
Dear Joni, thank you for your message to this world in need. Suffering is the reality of life that we cannot and must not turn our eyes away from.
Thank you Joni I live with pain every day but I can get up with a walker machine. I love listening to you. And I love the Lord Jesus-=
Joni is a gem, and I'm so blessed by her. I'm binge-watching her lately, and she gives me optimistic perspective on my suffering (along with God's promises). I'm even able to appreciate pain and suffering because it conforms us to the image of Christ.
You are such a blessing Joni and friends, I thank God for the words he put in your mouth to talk about. I live in pain and it gets harder everyday. It is very true what you say, to think about someone else who is going though worse than you. God bless, I would love to get the suffering bible.
Thank you Joni! I was surprised to see a UA-cam notification of this video because I thought you only wrote one book and went to sleep. I read your book "Joni Eareckson Tada" while in theological seminary in my country (Zimbabwe) in the early 1990s. I read it over and over again because it had so much impact on my worldview. Thank you so much for continuing to serve the Lord and telling the truth about suffering. I am strengthened!
She has authored several books and is the general editor on the Beyond Suffering Bible. We are so thankful for Joni!
Joni, i love you so much! My affliction has been the "invisible" kind. Grief, loss of loved ones and depression. I first started listening to you on the radio two years ago during such terrible soul pain. Your testimony and sharing gave me hope to get through each day. God BLESS you.
God Bless You Joni💐
A Woman Of Courage 🙂
You are a warrior 🪖 of God,
Is a Beautiful Powerful Testimony
I Bless You with all of the blessings from heaven🤍🕊️🤍
Yes she is so beautiful and such a motivational speaker
Thank you for your testimony
This was wonderful! You were wonderful and your friend as well. You reflected the joy of the Lord even through your suffering .
Those fr
Iends are amazing . so faithful for so many years
She is a beautiful person inside and out
Just want to tell you Joni, I thank God for you. You have been a big inspiration in my life, how you deal with pain and issus of life, with a deep spiritual insight. I have had a tough year, health problems and loss of family.I would have never chosen this, but I treasure it, as it has gronw my faith, and exposed alot of dark hidden secrets about myself, that I was not aware of.
This is the greatest Gift I could wish for, God molding me and making me like the image of His Son.Romans 8: 29.
You inspire me to keep fighting for the Reward a waiting those who endure till the end. Thanks for the encouragement and for sharing what God has worked in you.
Wishing Gods richest BLESSINGS upon you.
I think you are amazing and very inspiring. Thank you for all you do and showing how much a person can trust in GOD and his son Jesus. I am struggling with severe anxiety and depression and phobia. It's hard for me but I love to watch you and hear you speak. I wish I could get my life going with enthusiasm like you do. I just don't know how to find a balance back to life after this has happened to me. Anyway, I think you are awesome and very full of love.
She's definitely an honest expert of pain & suffering. I don't thank God much, but I do after listening to what she has to say. I felt understood. Haven't felt like this in a long long time it's so so relieving. I read a little about her in Philip Yancey's book more than ten years ago, it's funny how I suddenly felt the need to look her up just now.
Jeremiah 32:41
“Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul.”
Joni, Thank you for trying each day.
Thx for doing this. Mental pain is very real all on its own- anxiety, sadness, fear etc. But also physical pain & depression go hand in hand. I go to The Lord, a hundred times a day if needed. May we embrace "the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His suffering". Not a popular verse.
The quads I took care of, hated getting up...lol. I always brought them news or a song or a joke or something to detract them. Plus, I would say..I prayed you would be here to encourage Me and here you are! . ..I am soo happy to see you! Then hug them. Lol I love you Joni. Hugs. I am soo happy to see you all ways. Db. ( They would say....yayaya ya....then laugh) not knowing each other. But then the day began with planning fun stuff we would do that day together. When I am hurting you put me to shame.....in how you handle it . But Its good to know your not perfect in Your suffering...Just doing one day at a time. It helps me soo much to go ahead with a bad day.
What a blessing listening to her words of encouragement ❤
Thank you God for your help us through Jony. Thank you for her experince that help us. God bless you Jony and bless all the people that find stregth from Jesus through you you.
1Cor 1:25-31: "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence. But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: That, according as it is written, HE THAT GLORIETH, LET HIM GLORY IN THE LORD."
Thank you Joni for sharing your wisdom.
Oh Joni what wonderful answers you gave to such difficult questions. Thank you so much for reminding us once again that we can conquer all things through Christ who strengthens us. I am so blown away by how you have memorised, what seems from where I am sitting, the entire Bible! You are such an inspiration! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Memorized? How about the fact that she has a Teleprompter in front of her, OR that if you hear her on the radio, it's right in front of her. YOU need HER to tell you about what the BIBLE says? Can't you go read it for yourself, especially since you want to make double sure that she's telling the truth--or do you take her word for it, never knowing IF she IS telling the truth, since you won't bother to go check for yourself?
WAKE UP!! She is NOT who you think she is--not by a long shot.
@@noturningbackever493 it is written: "Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5)
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
@@AliceSusanHarding
WOW!! It's so very interesting that YOU actually took the time to attack me with your smug, self-righteous answer. The problem is that YOU are guilty of what YOU are accusing me of being: Judging.
Here's your other problem, do you think that you can just sit there and ACCUSE me of being at fault about her, when there are OTHERS out there, that had YOU taken the time to do the research as I have, you would NOT be sticking your finger at me in your own rebellious attitude towards me?
I really DO NOT CARE what you wrote to me. Why? Because I am NOT blinded by false meekness and piety, like you are towards her, AND because do you honestly think that when YOU stand before Jesus Christ you get a pass on things like this, when you have put Joni on a pedestal as an idol to yourself, especially when HE said not to have ANY idols before Him? I don't think so.
Joni PRIDES HERSELF on all the "wonderful" works SHE does, when the Scriptures clearly state that NONE of us will get to heaven by WORKS.
Let me post you a few things from my research. This is all I want to give you--for now:
@ Alice Susan Harding:
Maybe if you heard it from someone else--even the FIRST post that I'm putting here, from a Cerebral Palsy, blind AND wheelchair bound woman, maybe you can humble yourself and see that there is a LOT more to Joni than you know.
That way you won't accuse or revile me because I wrote the TRUTH about Joni--NOT for me, but for all of you who thinks that God Himself ordained her to teach false doctrines:
It will be next...
@Alice Susan Harding:
"Actually, I seldom consider myself as afflicted anyway, especially when I remember Christians in other countries who are being tortured, imprisoned and killed for their faith in Jesus Christ. Those people suffer infinitely more than I ever have.
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"The disability I really want to blog about has nothing to do with Cerebral Palsy, and everything to do with spiritual health. With evangelicals increasingly minimizing the importance of the Bible in favor of emotional experiences and distorted ideas of Jesus, I desire to challenge the fads and false teaching that cripple God’s people. Believe me, ladies, these handicaps have far more eternal consequences than whether or not I can walk. Therefore, I reserve the right to focus on the clear teachings of Scripture, not on disability, praying that Christ will receive the glory.
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"I’ve wrestled with a few red flags I’ve noticed in Joni’s speaking ministry for six or seven years, so I didn’t exactly come up with yesterday’s blog post on a whim. I’m deliberately not going to name my other concerns at this time precisely because I don’t know for sure whether or not I’m legitimately discerning problems. Regardless of the comments by the lady on The Outspoken TULIP Facebook page, I honestly have wanted to avoid nit-picking. For that reason, I held myself back, many times, from writing about my concerns.
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"In writing yesterday’s piece, I do wish I had worked harder at making a distinction between Joni as a person and the problems I see in her ministry. I do not doubt her love for the Lord, nor do I consider her a false teacher. I know she’s suffering terribly, and I applaud her willingness to use her sufferings to minister to other hurting people the way the apostle Paul did in 2 Corinthians 1:3-7. I have every reason to trust that she operates from right motives.
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"One comment encouraged me to show grace in disagreement. Yes. Joni Eareckson Tada is my sister in Christ, and ministers as she believes God wants her to minister."
'The thing is, showing grace doesn’t mean never questioning someone’s teachings and practices. The dear friend who challenged me on Facebook about yesterday’s article showed me grace by voicing her concerns over what I’d written. This friend has loved me enough to call out my behavior numerous times over the past 20 years, and I appreciate her for doing so.
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'By the same token, admiring Joni Eareckson Tada for her commitment to minister to hurting people doesn’t mean overlooking flaws in her approach. Yet most people I’ve tried to talk to about my concerns display curious reluctance to even consider my perspective. This reluctance scares me.
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"Yes, it’s right to believe the best of our brothers and sisters in Christ, as I did for decades in relation to Joni. But when we see things that don’t quite line up with Scripture, such as walking hand-in-hand with Jesus in heaven as He tells us how He’s used our afflictions, we should evaluate the Biblical merits of those things. Until recently, teachings of that nature (especially from Joni, who I regarded as a role model) did, in fact, reinforce my narcissistic tendencies. I also envisioned heaven as being about Jesus focusing His attention on me, just as He would on Joni.
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"The Bible, in contrast, never once mentions anything like that. Therefore, Joni’s teaching should be questioned. And if we can’t question what she teaches, perhaps there’s an even more serious issue.
I don’t believe Joni wants anyone to set her up as a Sacred Cow. But a resistance to any honest examination of her teaching does exactly that. I don’t want to nit-pick her teaching ministry for the sake of tearing her down, but neither do I want to ignore concerns that I believe should be addressed. Joni should be highly esteemed, but she must never be worshiped.
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"Although I’m still a fan of Joni’s singing, during the past six or seven years little things about her theology have sort of nagged at me. Please don’t misunderstand: I’m not saying Joni’s a false teacher on the level of Beth Moore, Joyce Meyer or Ann Voskamp. The bulk of her teaching lies well within the boundaries of orthodox Christianity. All of us have blind spots, and perhaps my quibbles with Joni reflect blind spots in me. So I beg you not to misinterpret this essay as a denunciation of this woman."
'At the same time, a few unrelated things about her have made me more cautious about her ministry than I used to be. I’ve been praying about my concerns for several months, knowing that things simply weren’t right. The other day, however, I watched a UA-cam video that made me think seriously about her teaching and its influence on me. As a result, I believe I need to address an element of her teaching that troubles me.
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Here’s the hour-long video, for those who would like to see it:
Whether you watch it or not, I want to explain why it bothers me.
"In her talk, Joni began with a statement that I’d heard her make many times over the last forty years. In essence, she said that she wouldn’t trade her quadriplegia for anything because of the intimacy it has given her with Jesus. From there, she proceeded to describe various instances in which the Lord has comforted her in her suffering, encouraging those in her audience to likewise find His comfort during their times of hardship."
"This type of thinking inspires people, most assuredly. I’ve found it inspiring on more than one occasion. But as I mulled it over the other day, it occurred to me that Joni had taken a by-product of suffering and was presenting it as suffering’s main purpose. While she frequently inched close to the truth that God allows and uses suffering with the primary purpose of glorifying Himself, she’d always revert back to the benefits of suffering to her. As a result, she (I believe unintentionally) communicated a self-centered view of Christianity rather than a Christ-centered one.
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"On one level, I understand how she would put such an emphasis on self. Those of us with severe physical disabilities live in worlds where large networks of people provide various services to us, ranging from intimacies like bathroom routines to impersonal acts like driving paratransit vehicles. In all these situations, our needs necessarily take priority. Understandably, we become accustomed to being the center of attention. Not surprisingly, therefore, we see the Lord as the ultimate Person Who takes care of us.
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'And the Lord indeed does take care of us. Our disabilities render us wonderfully dependent on Him in ways that most able-bodied Christians don’t get to enjoy.
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But.
"As much as disability (or any suffering) facilitates intimate dependence on Jesus, and as wonderful as that intimate dependence may be, it’s really not the point. "Later in her talk, Joni imagines a conversation she’ll have with Jesus in heaven. As she walks hand-in-hand with Him, He points to her wheelchair and tells her all the ways He’s used her because of it.
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"That’s not how I picture heaven. I imagine being before Him, overwhelmed by His glory and greatness. When I see Him face-to-face, I seriously doubt I’ll think about myself at all, unless it’s to grieve over the many ways I will have failed to honor Him. Frankly, I won’t be thinking about my disability in heaven. I’ll be too fascinated with Jesus and His magnificence to think about myself!
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"Does my disability give me an intimacy with Jesus that I wouldn’t have enjoyed otherwise? I have absolutely no idea. Furthermore, if it does, that’s an added benefit. He’s sovereignly blessed me with Cerebral Palsy for purposes that glorify Him, and any intimacy that I have with Him because of it comes a a bonus. I tremble at the thought of teaching young women to regard suffering as something God allows in their lives for their sake.
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"Joni Eareckson Tada is not a false teacher, but I do believe her emphasis on self could reinforce the narcissism that plagues evangelical communities today. In a time when professing Christians need to turn attention away from self in order to proclaim the excellencies of the Lord Jesus Christ, we don’t need teachings that encourage self-focus…even as a means of coping with suffering.
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FROM--
www.headstickdeb.com
This was really eye opening Thankful for Your ministry.Victoria j Mull PA.
I love this lady,I need to do that in the morning more often
I have a shirt that says "I can't ADULT today" and so often in the twilight waking sleepy time I find myself saying "help me Jesus help me Jesus". I have a very patient motivator though, my service dog (though my former one of 24/7 ten years passed in November, I have a new one who still needs to be fed and brushed and taken out.) The other video asked if I was doing it alone.. yes... and NO! God is near. I need to be quiet.
You are a great Christian woman and a great help to everyone that hears you speak except for the idiots that don't believe in Christ. Thank you for explaining the Bible Joni!!
She is amazing! 😭❤️🙏
Way to go, Doug and Joni!!
She,Joni is being formed to the image of Christ in all things she can and cannot do is all that matters. Thank you Joni I believe in Grace (Gods Riches At Christs Expense) because of your testimony.
Wow what a awesome testimony thank you for your blessings and your engagement 🙏❤
Encouraging words 🙏
Joni is so inspiring ❤️❤️ I really needed to hear this.
The Word is my lifeline. Joni is right. Bible verses give us life !
thank you for reminding us the God our Savior is a participating God who has set the perfect example!
Wow such courage determination and effort all whilst in agony
Joni, It seems like when I awaken in the morning, my first thought is grab the walker, and I quickly get into my routine, and all of a sudden, about 10 minutes or longer, I start thinking upward, is that wrong? Am I ungrateful? I love God, but don't seem to think of God right away. Not usually anyway. I suffer with depression and arthritis. Both painful. I keep telling myself that God understands.
Dear Joni, I heard about you many years ago, today my UA-cam put you here, I want to say only - I got surgery 10 years ago, both hips replacement due car accident, well I asked like you for instant healing, nothing had happened, and I was dependent
on help too, even short time. so I complained to HIM, and HE said - I never forget : You must !! go through, unless you will never
understand other in pain, suffering,.... " Well be alone, without help, soon I was able to walk and even dance for HIS glory.
I work many years like caregiver in home care, so I really needed this "lesson ". I understand many people in pain, difficulty …
much better, pray for many,. thank for your sharing, HE bless you for your support others. And HE loves you !!!! Thanks
So...if I got this straight--YOU needed HER to find out that God heals? Why not go directly to the source itself--God Himself? Why put her up as a mini-god in your life? Doesn't the BIBLE tell us that HE shall have NO OTHER gods before Him, so why make her your "god" in your situation? See how displeasing that is to Him?
Do you think she REALLY read this? She is so far removed from you that her answer would be "oh, that's nice" and close down her video site.
She is a phony and has been for 40+ years. She lives in a multimillion dollar mansion. Her salary is more than 95% of the people on You Tube; do you think she really CARES about you or anyone else? I have been studying and researching her for that long--I would NEVER consider her to be a Christian, just a fake and one who takes gullible Christians' money.
Sooooooo goooooood! Thank you!
Thankyou. !! I love listening to you
God Bless you
Wonderful
So practically helpful for the hurting. Thankyou
She encourages me! God bless you
I em is happy.Thanks.
'When answers aren't enough, there is Jesus' Scott Wesley Brown
sis. Yoni. ...YESHUA was Never rejected by HIS Father ...He Only FELT LIKE HE was Rejected.... That's why We Live By Faith IN HIS WORD " NOT BY WHAT we FEEL...SHALOM VA AHAVAH 😍
thanks
That movie was: Shawshank Redemption. I put a question on another site of yours, but it fits here better....
How do you feel pain when you can not feel anything? I guess you do feel lots of things! This is not as live as I wish it was. God bless!
How can u not live this Jesus. By the name Joni
The wounded hands of Christ, how wonderful and deep. That will stick with me. By the way, you are stunning and beautiful! God bless you continually and thank you for your years of service and ministry to the world, what a legacy.
Yes, this is so true. Maybe it's cause I am special that he chose me.
I'm sorry Louise, but where did you find that Scripture verse? And you think that HE "chose" you? For what purpose?
Our ONLY purpose for being a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, is to serve Him and worship Him. We can do nothing to earn any "special" treatment, nor does He give us any--that is not Scriptural either.
Wow 70? She doesnt come anywhere near looking 70
Where do I go to get the Bible on Suffering/Depression?
here is a link to the Bible www.tyndale.com/p/beyond-suffering-bible-nlt/9781414392028
Joni I need advice. I was born with spina bifida 57 years ago. I've lived for 46 of those years love the Lord dearly but recently I've found a sin in my life. Deep burried sin. It's so buried I'm just now calling it sin. I've asked forgiveness trying to do a
180 it's a sin that should be beneath the age I am and cat forgine myself what do I do
I met you 1x at a school opening at liberty in Bakersfield abou6to years ago
I would like an address to write Joni please.
Can you feed yourself? I see you moving your hands that's why I asked I have been following you ever since you're very first book😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 and I have that book.
24:00 If we are depressed, we can share the comfort we have obtained with others. If you can, get up, get a shower, get dressed, walk out the front door and go find a way to share with someone in the community who is hurting more than you are. Otherwise there is the internet that God is using mightily these days.
You can find all that out if you read the BIBLE. She is NOT saying anything remarkable. Her speeches are designed to elicit emotions from you, then she hits you up for money. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. She is NO saint!
@@noturningbackever493 I feel sorry for you that you are so bitter, cruel and loveless in your heart you feel the need to attack someone who goes through the grinding and relentless suffering that this wonderful woman has gone through for fifty years. You need to go search deep in your heart and then look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are a good example of what it means to be a follower of Jesus. Hardworking and talented Joni (have you seen her paintings?) does not want money for herself as she has made more than enough to keep herself, and as the Bible says, the worker is worth his wages.Joni helps many others all over the world who are severely disabled and have nowhere to turn for help, and that's what she raises funds for. You must be the one who loves money if you are so obsessed that is all you can see about her..
@@AliceSusanHarding Alice I think YOU should spend the time it took you to attack me on researching who Joni REALLY is...absolutely 100% A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING, WHO HAS BEEN LIKE THIS FOR 40+ YEARS! You think she's so sweet and innocent? Think again.
Bitter cruel and LOVELESS?? FOR AN ENEMY OF THE CROSS? What emotion am I supposed to feel for a person that has been FLEECING all of you for four decades plus?
"Grinding and relentless suffering"?? That is the most ignorant thing I've heard about her in a long time lady, YOU'D better go check her out. She is NOT "suffering" at all--she's got maids, a husband who gladly married her so he's set for life, she lives in an exorbitant MANSION--one that's paid for by her SELLING THE GOSPEL through her "books," "tapes," "videos" and her "paintings." Her diving accident was in 1967--and she's been milking it ever since.
Anything to make a dollar--off blind and ignorant people like you.
"You need to go search deep in your heart and then look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are a good example of what it means to be a follower of Jesus. Hardworking and talented Joni (have you seen her paintings?) does not want money for herself as she has made more than enough to keep herself, and as the Bible says, the worker is worth his wages.Joni helps many others all over the world who are severely disabled and have nowhere to turn for help, and that's what she raises funds for. You must be the one who loves money if you are so obsessed that is all you can see about her.."
Oh really now. You think that I should do what you're telling me to?? Do you KNOW ME PERSONALLY?
I WILL NOT DEFEND A WOLF IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING THAT HAS SUCCEEDED FOR OVER 50 YEARS IN DECEIVING PEOPLE INTO THINKING WHAT A GREAT PERSON SHE IS--she not only is a fake, but she's also aligned with the"Lordship Salvation"doctrine that is ANTI-GOD.
"You must be the one who loves money if you are so obsessed that is all you can see about her.."
I am probably the most broke person financially on this page; I have been rich and poor, over and over again. Money is the LAST thing I would ever love--you're crazy if that's how you think.
She STEALS your money; I never said that that is all I can see about her...nope. I've been watching her for 40+ years, slowly get into the same heresies as all the others you see and hear about.
Of course she has made more than enough to keep herself--OFF ALL YOU IGNORANT, BLIND "CHRISTIANS" WHO BELIEVE HER LIES! Where do you think she GOT all that from?? YOU and others that REFUSE to open your eyes!
And she HELPS people all over the world? Really?? I AM DISABLED legally and I have never ONCE heard from her to "help" me; besides, I don't WANT her kind of help. All that you see and believe from her is NOTHING BUT SMOKE AND MIRRORS. Do you honestly think that she's REALLY "helping" people? Why, because she buys wheelchairs and takes them to picnics? Big deal! Medicare AND Medicaid will pay for your wheelchairs as part of the DME (Durable Medical Equipment) portion of their contract with you. And you think she raises money for them? NOT AT ALL. She has taxes to pay on her house, unless of course she claims it as "church property," then she gets away with that; she also has to pay for her maids, her medical upkeep, her husband and so on--very, very little goes to what she tells you and everyone else.
WOW! how blind you really are, lady!
DO NOT--I repeat, DO NOT jump on me about what I know about her; stop being lazy and go do your own research on her yourself!
She is NO SAINT.
I shall answer with scripture, as Jesus answered Satan.
"And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:" (Philippians 3:9).
"But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Romans 3:21-23)
"Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;" (Hebrews 12:15)
"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away." (1 Cor 13:1-8)
"But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work." (James 3:14-16)
"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (Matthew 7:2)
@@AliceSusanHarding YUP, you're the PREACHER who knows everything, don't you!
Very clever of you to use God's Word to ATTACK me! Now ask yourself this: Do you REALLY and honestly think that GOD is happy with you attacking me by using HIM and His Word? Do you??
Think again. Self-righteous, pompous, pathetically twisted Scriptures to fit YOUR agenda, not His!
Nice going; you must be really proud of yourself. It is a sickness with people like you: you get your pleasure from attacking people. How sadistic you are!
Joni
I have ME
Bedbound
Pain
I believe that God does not hurt us
But for Some reason , evil won
Like birth hurts as consequence from sin in Paradise , And death came in
Hè wil uphold us , And finally Bring us Home
Wrong thoughts you have: The BIBLE says that if we suffer, it is NOT to the letting of blood; it also says that we are NOT to glory in ourselves; then it says that God does NOT tempt us with evil AND that He makes a way of escape for all of us.
You have been deceived by thinking that all your afflictions are from God or you make the wrong assumption by saying that "evil won."
The BIBLE says "therefore I will gladly rejoice in my afflictions, knowing that they are for a season."
And lastly, I am sorry to tell you this, but Joni has not and never will read your comment. Why? Because she has literally hundreds of thousands of comments--she cannot possibly read and respond to all of them.
The BIBLE says to LOOK to the Author and Finisher of your faith, not to a human for help. David wrote that "My help cometh from the LORD..." not Joni, but hey, you can look to her if you want; it's just unscriptural.
Pentecostal Believer S-R I wonder if Job felt that evil won. God didn’t put affection on Job but he allowed it. All of Jobs friends caused him affection too. People should be kind! Love! Not tell her how wrong she is. I don’t believe you really are sorry for telling her that.
LOVE !!!
@@normaakins658 "affliction" not "affection"
Joni YOU are an amazing, cheerful, resilient and beautiful sister in Christ. To attribute your years of suffering to the will of God is a gross mis-reading of the character of the God of the bible. God does not have sickness, suffering, or any other disease, coz He does not have it to give. He would have to change his nature to do so. Jehovah RAFFA - The God who heals you. If I, ( a father of 5 kids), did this to one of my kids, I would have Child Services at my door and placed undet arrest. And we attribute THIS to a God of love - seriously Joni???
I think you have been robbed by Satan, (the god of all sickness, disease and suffering of your life. John 10 :10. Jesus TOOK your sickness at the whipping post at Calvary. Isaiah 53:5. Once you opened your soul to the first lie, Satan found an open door and just kept giving you more sickness.
You CAN walk again and end this deception. Go and see Curry Blake at Plano church - Texas, Ps. Tom Loud at Shoreline church - Seattle.
Pete Cabrera Jr. In Kansas.
Katheine Crick.
Any one of these good ministers know their authority in Christ and will heal you.
joegee1000: Where is your comment? If I wasn't so busy this week, I would give you a response to your SMUG, self-righteous comment. Seems that you deleted it; if you didn't, then why can't I find it?
You want to attack and accuse me--then you are nowhere to be found??
I will tell you this: ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS 100% WRONG--in so many ways, that I have to break down my answer paragraph by paragraph.
Pentecostal Believer S-R I delight in exposing the money grubbing behemoth called evangelical Christian ministries who prey on the vulnerable, both in the audience and those whom they have groomed for their stage. Yes, it’s quite evident that this lady is very unhappy. But that machine knows how to make money. So they keep wheeling her out over and over again. If Joni was strictly a motivational speaker these many decades, I’d say right on. Bringing up Jesus Christ over and over again when you don’t believe a word of what you’re saying doesn ‘t save one soul. But these Christian corporations don’t care, they just want more and more of our money. You can’t even watch the much talked about movie, Joni, in it’s entirety because of either the billy graham evangelistic assoc. or worldwide pictures. So much for spreading hope free of charge. If you ever want to watch a motivational story for free on UA-cam, watch the Roy Campanella Story. He too became a quadriplegic because of a car accident. Do I feel sorry for this teenager’s diving accident? Absolutely. But I think the way the evangelical Christian “non-profits” have used her for their own gain is disposable.
@@karensimonds3213 AMEN, sister. It is so refreshing to read your comment, especially since I have been accused and attacked for everything I wrote here, both a year ago and recently.
I have spent years of my salvation trying to help people understand that just because these phonies sound nice, or are friendly, or whatever, does not mean that they are saved or teaching truths.
It falls on deaf ears. One woman last week was so VICIOUS and UGLY attacking me, that I had to report her to YT--she just would not stop.
I very rarely report anyone, but this woman was determined to take me down--and came very close to blaspheming the Holy Ghost--I had no choice--I had to stop her, before she crossed that line.
Then I get people who honestly believe that Joni has some sort of "gifts" in God--gifts that aren't even listed in the Bible, but since Joni presents herself as being SO knowledgeable, and convinces the masses that she is "thisclose" to God, they "swallow and follow" whatever she says and does.
The Bible tells us about people making merchandise of men--selling CD's, DVD's, cassette tapes (way back when), books--the list is endless. Unfortunately people that do NOT read their Bibles to see if what she says is true or not, will continue being deceived and led astray.
Truly it is Matthew 24 and Galatians 1:8, 9.
If the blind lead the blind, they BOTH fall in the ditch. Too bad no one will open their eyes to see; it is to their destruction.
I pray that God continues to witness to your spirit that not only what Joni says, but others, too, is misleading and false.
Joni I have always admired you. I have your books and records. However, is it really necessary for you to bash other religions to make your point? I have wondered that about you for a long time.
Mary, maybe it would help you if you did some research on her, or read what I posted to
Alice Susan Harding--a few objective opinions from others.
SO--now I open myself up to more hatred from those here that are blinded by her persuasive "teachings" and all the "good" she does for everyone:
Joni signed the "Ecumenical Manhattan Declaration," which is basically a "meeting of the Christian leader's minds" so to speak.
It named several Articles of Faith--from Protestants, BUT it also included their CATHOLIC "brothers".
The means they hoped to accomplish were to continue to create a ONE WORLD RELIGION--and your idol in this video is #127 of those that signed. The Manhattan Declaration has DIRECT LINKS to Rome.
I will state that it is quite lengthy (you can find it on Google), couched in "Christian" terms and ideologies, however it is anything but Christian. It is VERY subtle in making the common person believe that it is for the Kingdom of God and His truths, so it's very easy to sway people that CHOOSE to be swayed towards a one world religion--Rick Warren and his P.E.A.C.E. Plan is striving towards that goal and those who ARE Christians will slowly be "phased out." This Manhattan Declaration is very similar to what this heretic teaches (Rick Warren).
She also endorsed the most blasphemous "bible" ever created. She gave this "new" bible her blessings--the name of the "bible"? "THE MESSAGE" which has to be THE most demonically inspired work of a person's anti-God mind.
I really don't care what anyone says to me or about me--and for the most part here, most of you have condemned me, called me a fake, an unbeliever, and told me in so many words "who are you to judge? doesn't the Bible say that if we judge, we shall also be judged by what we judge by"? and so on.
Somehow almost everyone here forgets what JESUS CHRIST said: Go read John 7:24.
The original Greek for the word "judge" is to discern, meaning that we SHOULD judge\discern between truth and lies. Why did Jesus say that? Because He ALSO said that there are many false teachers around and wolves in sheep's clothing, so HE wanted us to discern.
I stand by what I say, write and point out here. I am NOT here to be attacked and I am responsible for what I say and do, just like everyone else, but since Jesus TOLD US to judge or discern, then I would rather obey God rather than man.
I remember when she had her diving accident. I honestly cannot believe that she's still fleecing innocent (or is it gullible) Christians for money, all these years. Very sad. I would have to say 45 years that I know of. All she does is put on her "happy voice" and people fall for it. She has done very little for the Gospel throughout the years. Most of what she HAS done is go on TV or the radio--to promote HERSELF--or her books, videos, VCR tapes (back then) and so on. It's always been "all about ME"...oh, with a little about Jesus thrown in for good measure. As time has gone on and she's become famous--and WEALTHY--she can now support a few "ministries" so us Christians can look up to her and say "Wow, Joni is really doing something!" Not really. Not after all these years of fleecing Christians. Sadly, she's just another in a l--o--n--g line of smiling charlatans that have taken advantage of Christians.
Pentecostal Believer S-R Wow, I can hardly believe your bad attitude and misunderstanding of who Joni is! She has chosen to trust in God to work through her, instead of feeling so defeated and letting her disability keep her down. She fights her feelings of depression, frustration, and pain, physical pain! She fights her flesh and feelings by seeking God and she is being used in wonderful ways by God, because people suffering relates to her being joyful despite her disability. In fact, it is Jesus that most people see in Joni! I’m sorry you don’t see Jesus working in her life and in all the many lives that she has touched, encouraged. Joni is and has always been only interested in serving God and bringing glory to God by helping others around the world and the ministries she has, are not just her own, rather there board members who make decisions concerning helping people, and are transparent in all donations. I really am not sure what your harsh accusations toward Joni are stemming from, but there nit based on facts. I hope you find truth and joy in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
And I stand by my statements because I know all about her from way back when. Six years before I was born again, she had her accident, caused by HER diving into shallow water, while fooling around with her friends swimming in 1967...did GOD do that to her? No, absolutely not. Did GOD ask her to go around and act like she's some sort of messenger about it? No, absolutely not. This is all about her.
Don't tell me that I have a "bad attitude and misunderstanding about her" because I don't. I know all about her using her charm and fleecing the innocent to gain MILLIONS of dollars from those who have no discerning powers--or common sense.
I have been watching her--and dozens like her--for years. She is not the first--nor will she be the last---to fleece people under the guise of gaining sympathy due to her being sweet and kind. There is a dark side to her--that you won't find out about unless you really dig deep into her life and THAT, my friend, is what and why I do NOT care for her and why I do not fall for her deception. God is not--and never has been--"using" her in any manner. She spends more time talking about her and her organization than about Him. Oh yes, she throws His name in her conversations here and there (she has to in order for people to donate money: keep up the charade), but overall EVERYTHING is about HER.
Pay very close attention to her programs on the radio or TV: Really pay attention. Time them if you must, and give it about a month solid of doing this. You will find out that the overall content of the programs are all about HER, with a little bit of God thrown in for good measure. I started noticing this way way back then.
Hey, I don't hate her...of course not, but I will not subject myself to someone whose main goal of the so-called "ministry" (doesn't everyone have one these days?) is about her, HER accomplishments, what SHE does\did, how SHE did this and that...how great SHE is...so: where exactly is the GLORY to God in all that?
Since you know so much about her, let me ask you this: do you LIVE in her home? Are YOU a board member? Do you personally do the accounting of her organization? No? Then I suggest that you stand back, because I have read all about her and how she does EXACTLY what I wrote, or I certainly would not have written it. If she's so "Christ like," how come there aren't THOUSANDS of testimonies of people being born again under her "ministry"?
Just about everything you wrote above is "all about her" and what "she" does: "SHE fights her flesh and feelings by seeking God" big deal...don't we ALL DO THAT? "instead of feeling so defeated and letting her disability keep HER down, SHE fights HER feelings of depression, frustration and pain, physical pain!: again. it's all about HER!! As if she is the ONLY one on this planet suffering all these problems...so do I, so do you, so do countless others, but you don't hear us talking about it as if it's our "cross" to bear, do you? NO! The Bible says it is common to man, that is, we all suffer in one way or another: NO ONE corners the market on suffering, or depression, or pain, or any other emotion. We are all human.
I have come "this close" to being in a wheelchair due to MY physical disabilities and pain, but you will NEVER hear me talk about it to millions on the radio or TV--why? Because it BRINGS NO GLORY TO THE KINGDOM. It actually does the opposite, especially to the unbelievers. I don't even talk about it to people I know, including my own children, yet somehow Joni feels the need to CONSTANTLY remind her audience about her accident: give it up already! It was 50 YEARS AGO!! Why does she do that? Simple: it's an old psychological trick: if I remind people about my accident\pain\problems\disability, I will gain sympathy and they will DONATE...it's a sickness that people like her have, to prey on the weak, gullible or innocent people, and Christians fall for it every time.
"Helping others see Jesus through Joni." That itself is a very interesting statement, coming from someone that really has no idea who she is--REALLY is. She has done nothing of the sort--at least in the manner of which you speak. You'd be surprised to see how she lives, how she travels, what her bank account looks like and how she thinks about those that she takes advantage of, and sadly, how she exploits her disability to HER advantage, as if she should have earned some sort of privilege over others.
I am sorry, but you really don't know the REAL Joni as those of us who have been around for a long time do.
You can accuse me of being harsh and say that what I wrote is "not based on facts"--if they aren't then YOU give ME the facts if you have them: I am willing to be proven wrong, but you won't be able to--my "accusations"--which they are not, they are observations gathered over almost 45 years--but I stand on what I wrote. Open your eyes. You are being deceived by a VERY clever woman.
Pentecostal Believer S-R - I was checking out books by Joni on Amazon and there is a devotional Called Pearls of Great Price it has some good reviews of how it helps them and one person said it is Christ centered. One lady said it helped her get out bed when she felt like covering her head up and staying in bed. In one video her and Ken were saying there marriage is an example of how God loves the church- sacrificial love. That was a moving video- Ken’s sacrificial love of Joni and Jesus’s sacrificial love for us. That video really moved me. I would like to recommend these people - all are on UA-cam Henry Gruver, Kevin Zadai, Capt. Dale Black, Nathan Wheeler, Howard Storm, Don Perdue - they have all been to heaven and had to come back to earth - it wasn’t their time to go. Henry Gruver has a really powerful testimony. He has to talk about himself and the situations he was in and what God did through him as a vessel. Joni’s testimony is about her being paralyzed- that is part of it - her not giving up is very inspirational to people. She said it was her paintings that got her noticed and she said prayed that God would help her be a good steward of that recognition and to bring good from it. She does bless and inspire others. If you don’t like Joni watch someone you like and that blesses you. Joni does tremendously bless some people by her singing or books or that she didn’t let being paralyzed stop her from living. On one video she talks about a deeper healing an internal healing of the soul.
Pentecostal Believer S-R - And in this video she is answering questions that people have asked. And she gets invited to speak. If she is asked - invited - that is not promoting herself. If you listen to this she is saying “LORD I need your strength that I can do all things through You.” I use that scripture a lot too. She leans on the LORD. I do too.
@@theladyandsonplus2 I think you'd better go back and read what I said: it is ALL due to research on her and her life.
Why would I be "jealous" of her?? She lives in a mansion that most can only dream about, she uses psychology to get people like you to donate, thinking that you're doing "God's work," when in fact all you're doing is supporting another false preacher.Absolutely NOT jealous!! What I DO feel is sadness, since I've known all about her four years after her diving accident. Yup, for all these years, I have been watching her, if not for affirmation, but to see what others don't or will not care to.
You have NO IDEA who I am, therefore you cannot make a statement like that, simply because of that very reason.
I am a Bible Scholar and have been for 45+ years now. I can spot a fake a mile away. Joni is one of them.
Pay attention to the company she keeps; that'll give you a clue as to who she REALLY is.
Do it BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH TO ATTACK ME OR ANY OTHER PERSON THAT SEES RIGHT THROUGH HER!
WHY DON'T you DO your OWN research, instead of pointing a finger at me!
I know why: 1- You are too lazy\trusting of everything she says, and 2- I've already done it for you and everyone else on this page
You got the wrong person to call "jealous." I wouldn't want to be in her shoes when we ALL have to stand at the Judgment seat of Jesus Christ and He asks us what we have done for HIM--not the charlatan and her life, but what has been done for HIM!! That's what counts.
Not in a million years would I want to be in her position the day He calls her to stand before Him.
Am I perfect? Absolutely NOT, BUT I don't fleece "gullible" (which I say "gullible" because had they bothered to READ the Bible, they'd be able to spot her false teaching), well meaning, but ignorant people of millions of dollars over the time span that I know she's been doing it.
Why would you even consider standing by her? Do you read the Bible? Can't you see that she is NOT a Christian lady?
The Bible says that if the blind lead the blind, they BOTH fall in the ditch. Are you among those who blindly follow her?BTW--I wrote this ONE YEAR AGO--why are you now deciding to criticize me?
End of story. I don't want to hear another word about how 'wonderful" she is, because she's not.