specifically they said long term goal, I wouldn't expect it before season 15, and maybe as late as witch queen, which is a one and a half season wait, just like how they described 3peeking being removed back in season 13 or something
it didnt even say that either. "At the risk of being vague, we also have long-term plans to address the issues of Exotic Orb generation and kill trackers without making a catalyst for every Exotic in the game." technically they didn't even say they would generate orbs. It's just a big nothing comment.
@@Gtxgoldennugget When Ravenous Beast is active it's better than pre nerf recluse. Something like 30-35 to the body and 40 to the head at the same if not faster rpm.
@@jasoncrownover4551 same rpm. 900 rpm except you get to keep the headshot damage of the 750 archetype. ravenous beast makes it so you can deal the headshot damage to the body as well so there is no difference, both numbers r the same. .4-.5 ttk or some shit.
I think gridskipper is going to be top tier, it’s both easy to use and very consistent. The one issue it had was 120s being able to outrange/ out ttk you with two taps but those are gone for the most part so I think this weapon is going to be very strong.
The problem with Gridskipper for me is that it doesn’t roll Kill Clip. Now, if they reissue the Horror’s Least and it can still roll Rangefinder + Kill Clip… it might be a best in slot.
I disagree the rolls are mediocre borderline bad for a pulse and the scope is horrible which may seem like a small problem but itll hurt you in the long term, also has mediocre range and other pulses like messenger or no time to explain or SIS are better
It does take an exotic slot but yeah with the catalyst it's good. I finished it like a month ago and it was painful to use in pve. But it wasn't always that way
@@BigBoss549 + its probably the most consistent fusion in the game (aside from maybe bastion), merciless literally doesnt move and hitting 1 bursts is easier with this than with any other regular fusion, which is why i would take merciless over telesto every time, even with telesto having the mines it can lay down
Thanks for highlighting the Multimach! I’ve been running the Y1 version on console since Opulence because it was basically 1 perk off perfect with its only true flaw being no slot for an Icarus mod. Glad it’s finally getting the love it always deserved
Blasphemer kinetic slug & non sunset, curated is full bore, accurized/high cal, quickdraw, opening shot so easy to get and icarus grip on slugs is 100% accuracy
So good Cammy. You have a great way of explaining and breaking things down makes me want to aquire the ones don't have and try the ones suggested. Keep up the great vids.
As someone who uses the ikelos shotgun, I enjoy it greatly. It makes my friends pissed off at me, to the point where they switch to felwinters, and still lose
Incredible list 10- SMG Borrowed Time /mulimach 9-Dead Mans Tale 8-Exxotic Hand Cannons 7-Lots Of Wolves 6- Bastion/ Telesto 5-NTTE/messenger / Stars 4-chaperone 3- retold Tale /Riis 2-Palindrome/ waking Vigil Vorpal/ Dire Promise 1-Duality
It's also why virtually none of his advice or tier ranking are actually helpful to his audience lol. He can say virtually anything is s-tier, film himself absolutely shredding, and in an average players hands its D tier.
@@mechamahou8467 except he know what he is talking about. muiltimac is god tier, chap and persicion and lightwieght shottys are gonna be the best and same with most weapons but duality is more at the bottom due to the pellet form being not that good
No time to explain (NTTE) has been one of the best weapons in PvP since it came out. There's some really fun builds with it, but with how small most maps are it's not the best to pair with a sniper cause of the sheer amount of shotgun apes, and I don't like using shotguns all that much.
If you absolutely don't want to use a shotgun you could pair it with a sidearm or SMG. Depending on your subclass I'd say you probably don't even need a short range weapon, shatterdive and icarus dash + celestial fire are great at dealing with apes
@@lucasfranke5161 Oh I used that combo, it's ridiculously fun, sidearms are severely underrated. No time to explain (NTTE) is broken with shotguns, but I wanted to snipe, and I do really bad with a sniper after shotgunning so I don't like using shottys anymore. If you want a really fun and borderline broken build when played right, use Bottom tree arc warlock, healing rift, NTTE (always try to crouch when using this for bonus targeting), getaway artist, max recov and discipline. Try to stick to your rifts, after popping sentient arc soul, and you'll be unstoppable. Use it with a sidearm or shotgun and it's free we rans for days. (I can almost guarantee you'll see me talking about using this exact or similar build in a lot of videos mentioning something in this build.)
Appreciate the Telesto shout out, I'm astonished I don't see this weapon used more. A fusion rifle with no range fall off is insane in itself, and that doesn't even count all of the versatility it can provide. It already was great against shotgunners, it's only going to be better
Great video cammy, keep up the work! Only this season because of the stasis tank build you had come up, I decided to pick LoW to perfectly fit with the citans, works really well.
Excellent list. Ive been using telesto more and honestly I think it could be higher on this list. It definitely has a draw back with the delay of the explosions, but it's ability to stick to surfaces has been so useful. I've been pairing it with a nice dire promise for the quick swap damage to help secure the kill, it's fun
Glad to hear that the meta changing will make more room for Fatebringer, I've really loved it since I got a Killing Wind and Opening Shot roll and I'd be glad to see it getting more play time.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that liked 120s as they were as 110s. Even with the range cap I realized because of their high damage, you could step back into range dropoff, which put both 140s and 150s at a disadvantage, and still get a smooth 3 tap to the head, landing the rampage stack or kill clip, and 2 tap people at ranges they couldn't engage. I said that before and nobody believed for some reason or another.
The Messenger with Desperado will quickly become the best gun in the game. Incredibly easy to use and could already keep up with 120s, now it'll just be absolutely insane. Plus it's a legendary in the kinetic slot.
May also be worth noting that the upcoming solstice shotgun (Compass Rose) has potential to be a great alternative to retold tale, being a solar non-slug precision shotty with quite similar stats and rolls from what we've seen.
Love the content my go to destiny content creator, you mentioned specific builds for exotic handcanons, I think a sick video would be ideal builds for most if not all exotic handcannons
I also think people don’t realize that on top of malfeasance being amazing in a team environment you can also get any damage boost and your super easy to use hand cannon becomes a three tap.
Keep in mind the Timelost weapons from Master VoG can accept adept mods, meaning if you have adept icarus or range, it'll make the Timelost Fatebringer absolutely insane with the right roll (90+ range stat lmao)
i love duality for blink shotgunning. very good base handling for a shotgun, and if the enemy is chipped enough you can just mash left click after blinking and go for the pellet cleanup, rather than the precious milliseconds it takes to ADS when you already have the timer before firing after a blink.
Along with the gamers you mentioned, Sheik has been showing Duality A LOT of love since it originally got buffed, it's honestly thanks to him that I saw the value in the gun
Telesto is a menace. I main Fusions in PvP and my favorite archetype is Precision. Telesto is likely a Precison frame, which is why I managed to get accustomed to it fairly quick. I also quickly learned how to set up traps that work a little too well in QP. I also happen to have a Timeline's Vertex with high range, high stability, and Firmly Planted. I picked that up for fun and saw that it, too, is a menace and could contend in the high-mobility 120/shotgun meta. Also, I found that a Pulse Rifle and Bottom tree Gunslinger is an excellent pairing with any Fusion because of the stability bump. Especially with Telesto despite the already high stability (the projectiles add to the Knock Em Down timer).
Another weapon to look out for imo would be glacioclasm as if you have the god roll for it you spawn with high impact reserves already active and it can reach some pretty insane ranges
Nice list, and im happy to see that duality gets the recognition it deserves. I am wondering though, what are your thoughts on sidearms? With there being more breathing room in close quarters do you think sidearms will gain a more prevalent niche? Brass attacks and some other sidearms can get up to respectable ranges and then there is also travelers chosen which after a kill has monstrous stats without time limit. Personally I think they will become good (not OP) for some tighter maps and fools remedy most likely will be the one wrecking shop the most, mainly because of its ease of use. Another amazing one for advanced sidearm players I think will be high albedo with its headseeker rolls.
We love the effort for the background gameplay. My 390 pulse and Duality is my highest kill combo by far, and now I'm gonna get bagged for using it :/ Duality is so damn good. I love it
I've really liked my "Contingency Plan" scout rifle. I tend to hang back a little further, so this thing is perfect for me. It doesn't do well up close, but mid-long range- you can't beat it...
I was just using duality most of iron banner before you posted this, I can definitely testify that once you get used to it it's pretty freaking sweet. That combined with the fact that I already have a God role messenger is pretty cool
Important to note: Timelost/Adept hand cannons can use Adept Icarus Grip; exact same as its vanilla counterpart with an additional +5 to range. Make sure to farm GM's for that mod!
You know the thing I love the most is the fact that before even hearing about them nerfing 120s and shotguns I’ve been using duality and a dire promise for weeks so I’ll be all set when the new meta shifts to those guns!!!
I think you missed one slug with a unique perk combination: I love my First in - Last Out with Hipfire Grip and Opening Shot. I hits some crazy Bullets from the Hip that nobody deserves to hit and is really consistent in ADS. Also it can be pared with an exotic hand cannon (Hawkmoon in my case) Maybe not in the top 10 but a very honourable mention
Hey cam, another beast of a weapon is vigilence wing, but also any fusion rifle with a half decent roll, slugs may replace shotguns but fusions are about to become the dominant abusive meta with little to no counter
With the 120 nerf, and the removal of 150rpm hand cannons, The Third Axiom and 390 Pulses will be very good as well. They directly compete with 140s in their range with similar ttk, better flinch, and more forgiveness
Something I didn't hear mentioned about Borrow Time is its a 750. With that note, the fact it has the Model 8 scope always (it rolls with barrels so that's always the scope) AND rangefinder I farmed for it at the beginning of the season. The ONLY roll I got with rangefinder had that, high cal, rampage and small bore. Ill say it almost instantly became my favorite smg EVER. The range for it being a SEVEN FIFTY (my favorite archetype) is nuts. I put about 2k kills on it in a week.
Saw the comments talking about your sick we ran at the end and I didn't believe them, but wow, you were playing on another level there! In truth, I'm waiting for the day when we get a 450 auto meta, but I'm fine with 140s. Just got a max range waking vigil last night, and it's hungry.
Apparently Crimil's can still drop from end of IB matches if you've gotten it b4, just not from tokens. I don't think I've personally had one drop but I've been hearing it is possible, just very rare. I thankfully have a great roll with Kill clip in the vault I'll be using. It has dropmag on it as well but Bungie is apparently reworking it next season so it may be useless but for now it'll allow me to still reload super fast and have a better perk in column 1.
It’s nit picky, but at 14:11 you mentioned something like, ”there is no precision frame shotguns in the kinetic slot.” Did you mean in terms of viability in this meta besides Heritage or something else? Anyways, keep up the great work, always look forward to hearing your thoughts on things.
As someone who fell in love with chappy a while before the changes were announced and im prepared for people using it. Actually played pvp and some guys pulled chappy or switched to chappy from their found verdict/ felwinter
14:12 he said there there's no precision frame shotgun in the kinetic slot, but what about the blasphemer precision kinetic shotgun? Not trying to be rude or anything but did he intentionally leave it out?
I have a borrowed time with a max range roll with rangefinder snapshot and it's been feeling really good excited for it as well happy to see it make the list.
Jesus that section at 15:00 reminded me of Rick and Morty when Rick and the president fought. Whole damn team in one room and you killed em all. “Jesus he’s not a god”
Yo, Cammy. If you can get your hands on one - if you run an Arc subclass with Snapshot/Elemental Capacitor on Occluded Finality with Arrowhead and a Handling MW, it hits a perfect 100 Handling. It feels like Quickdraw/Snapshot at all times. Amazing if you can get used to the zoom level.
I took the time this season to start learning slugs even before these nerfs were announced. I'm glad I did. Sojourner and Duality have been flip flopping in my energy slot for a few weeks now. They're great.
Sojourners tale: "awaken my masters"
*Chaperone and duality break from the stone*
*AYAYAYAA*
FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS I LAY DORMANT
Funky Aztec theme ensues
*The Shotgun Gods of Yeehaw*
@@mofro415 WHO HAS AWAKEN MY SLUMBER, oh hey goku
I’m pretty sure the orbs for exotics was mentioned as something that’s coming in the future. Not Tuesday
Yep, probably only for season 15
specifically they said long term goal, I wouldn't expect it before season 15, and maybe as late as witch queen, which is a one and a half season wait, just like how they described 3peeking being removed back in season 13 or something
it didnt even say that either. "At the risk of being vague, we also have long-term plans to address the issues of Exotic Orb generation and kill trackers without making a catalyst for every Exotic in the game." technically they didn't even say they would generate orbs. It's just a big nothing comment.
Thats what this video is, it says Season 15 in the title
@@HollyDaySheep It's not even said as season 15. It's a "long-term plan" with no timeframe beyond that given. Will not be in S15.
Yeah cam, that was some sick gameplay!
Yeah Cam! That was some sick Duality gameplay!
Three comments saying the same thing. If you want to fake comment get least get creative
@@mad_sn4ck31 damn dude that’s crazy but it was some sick Duality gameplay.
That final montage was practically aimbot
@@mad_sn4ck31 it was some sick game play.
Cam that was some sick Duality gameplay!
"What's the point of 120's?"
180s: *crying in the corner*
They really need a buff
Even though I really like them, I do think they need a bit of a bump in effectiveness.
Get a tunnel vision multi kill clip epitaph and oh boy its like having not forgotten all over again with appliance size hitboxes
*Survivors epitaph with kill clip enters chat*
@@hector2811 good luck getting that first kill with 120s and 140s existing, theyre good when you get going but 4 crits is still slower than 3.
“Mario Kart of shooters” is probably the best description of Destiny PvP that I’ve ever heard.
It’s so true 😂
I don’t get it
@@tripwilson5419 Mario kart is not a competitive/skillful game and has a ton of cheese/bs ways to win.
Tarrabah, perkless gun, good stats, absolutely broken after 2/3 kills
Literally recluse but exotic with cool solar leg make broken
@@Gtxgoldennugget When Ravenous Beast is active it's better than pre nerf recluse. Something like 30-35 to the body and 40 to the head at the same if not faster rpm.
@@jasoncrownover4551 same rpm. 900 rpm except you get to keep the headshot damage of the 750 archetype. ravenous beast makes it so you can deal the headshot damage to the body as well so there is no difference, both numbers r the same. .4-.5 ttk or some shit.
@@jasoncrownover4551 I Mained terrabah for a while it goes to 900 rpm while hitting 33 to both the body and head for a .33 ttk
@@greenlukesky4615 I believe it's .4, .3 with cwl
yeah cam that was some sick gameplay!
That we ran you got at the end there was spicy god damn 🥵🔥
I think gridskipper is going to be top tier, it’s both easy to use and very consistent. The one issue it had was 120s being able to outrange/ out ttk you with two taps but those are gone for the most part so I think this weapon is going to be very strong.
100% agree
The problem with Gridskipper for me is that it doesn’t roll Kill Clip. Now, if they reissue the Horror’s Least and it can still roll Rangefinder + Kill Clip… it might be a best in slot.
I love it, but I absolutely hate the ugly sights.
I disagree the rolls are mediocre borderline bad for a pulse and the scope is horrible which may seem like a small problem but itll hurt you in the long term, also has mediocre range and other pulses like messenger or no time to explain or SIS are better
@@anarchy_grim9309 rapid fire pulses with Kill Clip can two-burst any resilience, and Rangefinder flares the range out much further
Omg Cammy that play at the end was crazy😱😂, I mean at the VERY end of the video
That was definitely some sick gameplay, Cam.
That little spot @ 3:09 is so freaking cheeky! Love watching your videos man!!
Notification in discord is a good thing.
The transition to #10 was so fucking clean
I really think merciless is seriously slept on, nobody ever talks about it
It does take an exotic slot but yeah with the catalyst it's good. I finished it like a month ago and it was painful to use in pve. But it wasn't always that way
Doesnt it only do 47 damage a bolt?
How is it slept on? It’s not good and people recognize that fact
@@demongirl77 it's not bad, the charge time is the only thing that keeps it from being broken. The range on it is insane
@@BigBoss549 + its probably the most consistent fusion in the game (aside from maybe bastion), merciless literally doesnt move and hitting 1 bursts is easier with this than with any other regular fusion, which is why i would take merciless over telesto every time, even with telesto having the mines it can lay down
Thanks for highlighting the Multimach! I’ve been running the Y1 version on console since Opulence because it was basically 1 perk off perfect with its only true flaw being no slot for an Icarus mod. Glad it’s finally getting the love it always deserved
love that we ran at the end with the Duality. One of the sickest gameplay in a long time!!!
That was a really nice call to action in the duality section.
2:09
Cammy, they say It’s a long term goal, This will not happen on Reset
God I love how you got right to the point of the video without a tacky intro that's one reason why you're one of my favorite youtubers
Blasphemer kinetic slug & non sunset, curated is full bore, accurized/high cal, quickdraw, opening shot so easy to get and icarus grip on slugs is 100% accuracy
You can get this non sunset now?
@@jaced8437 have been able to for a while now. It's got some of the new Chosen perks too
Awesome, thank you. I'm a returning player from since its sunset. So I dont know what's what. And I loved this and its sniper brother Apostate.
Beautiful, amazing, perfect save at 3:00
Yeah, Cam! That was some sick gameplay in the commnet section for me
So good Cammy. You have a great way of explaining and breaking things down makes me want to aquire the ones don't have and try the ones suggested. Keep up the great vids.
'anti sea-bear circle'. Thanks for this, you just made my day.
Top tier gameplay towards the end! Had no clue you could use that loadout like that! 10/10!
As someone who uses the ikelos shotgun, I enjoy it greatly.
It makes my friends pissed off at me, to the point where they switch to felwinters, and still lose
Incredible list
10- SMG Borrowed Time /mulimach
9-Dead Mans Tale
8-Exxotic Hand Cannons
7-Lots Of Wolves
6- Bastion/ Telesto
5-NTTE/messenger / Stars
4-chaperone
3- retold Tale /Riis
2-Palindrome/ waking Vigil Vorpal/ Dire Promise
1-Duality
Been rocking a max range sojourner's with openingshot/tunnel vision, feels like an energy chappy
Its a pretty meh slug
Cammy, the way you play the Behemoth titan is nothing less than illuminating. Such genius with the oversheild.
Damn he fucking killed it on the background gameplay what a god
It's also why virtually none of his advice or tier ranking are actually helpful to his audience lol. He can say virtually anything is s-tier, film himself absolutely shredding, and in an average players hands its D tier.
@@mechamahou8467 except he know what he is talking about. muiltimac is god tier, chap and persicion and lightwieght shottys are gonna be the best and same with most weapons but duality is more at the bottom due to the pellet form being not that good
@@mechamahou8467 He says all his rankings are from a competitive standpoint
@@mechamahou8467 he literally just made a video on that subject. Go watch it, before you comment that his advice doesn’t cater to the average audience
@@mechamahou8467 ua-cam.com/video/NAdoIWvO7pM/v-deo.html
-_-
This is from a month ago, watch it
Cammy that was some sick duality gameplay. The sickest
No time to explain (NTTE) has been one of the best weapons in PvP since it came out. There's some really fun builds with it, but with how small most maps are it's not the best to pair with a sniper cause of the sheer amount of shotgun apes, and I don't like using shotguns all that much.
If you absolutely don't want to use a shotgun you could pair it with a sidearm or SMG. Depending on your subclass I'd say you probably don't even need a short range weapon, shatterdive and icarus dash + celestial fire are great at dealing with apes
it took me like 8 minutes to think of what ntte could even mean, i’ve never seen it called that before.
@@lucasfranke5161 Oh I used that combo, it's ridiculously fun, sidearms are severely underrated. No time to explain (NTTE) is broken with shotguns, but I wanted to snipe, and I do really bad with a sniper after shotgunning so I don't like using shottys anymore.
If you want a really fun and borderline broken build when played right, use Bottom tree arc warlock, healing rift, NTTE (always try to crouch when using this for bonus targeting), getaway artist, max recov and discipline. Try to stick to your rifts, after popping sentient arc soul, and you'll be unstoppable. Use it with a sidearm or shotgun and it's free we rans for days.
(I can almost guarantee you'll see me talking about using this exact or similar build in a lot of videos mentioning something in this build.)
@@starlightrains lol, I only used that cause it was like that in the video, so I assumed it's what people called it.
@@pmc2085 Nah you’re fine, i’m just an actual sped. I’m rather mentally challenged you see
Cammy the duality flick at the end for the We ran was sick!
"You can obtain Palindrome from GMs this season"
Hold up
Yeah, it'll be up in the rotation along with the swarm and shadow price (all three available at the same time) in a week or so.
@@veralium oh really thanks for the heads up👍👌
I really do appreciate you going out of your way to get the gameplay :>
Imagine being an og duality main
*Weeps off camera*
Couldn’t be me
Me too. Loved it since Day one Beyond Light
Appreciate the Telesto shout out, I'm astonished I don't see this weapon used more. A fusion rifle with no range fall off is insane in itself, and that doesn't even count all of the versatility it can provide. It already was great against shotgunners, it's only going to be better
I have a special hatred in my heart for telesto users, not cause its a good gun but because its annoying
curated blasphemer feels incredible but the rng grind makes it unrealistic
Great video cammy, keep up the work! Only this season because of the stasis tank build you had come up, I decided to pick LoW to perfectly fit with the citans, works really well.
Oooo I like how the Le Monarque is up there, such an underrated weapon.
Idk about underated. I see it being used everyday
I see people using le monarque and a quickdraw handcannon every day
Yeah, Cammy, that was some sick duality gameplay. Rocked that, "We ran." 🤣🤣
And Duality got nerfed...
Yep a whole meter lost
I gave a thumbs up cause I appreciated the effort to actually record gameplay. Good job, man.
Excellent list. Ive been using telesto more and honestly I think it could be higher on this list. It definitely has a draw back with the delay of the explosions, but it's ability to stick to surfaces has been so useful. I've been pairing it with a nice dire promise for the quick swap damage to help secure the kill, it's fun
Glad to hear that the meta changing will make more room for Fatebringer, I've really loved it since I got a Killing Wind and Opening Shot roll and I'd be glad to see it getting more play time.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that liked 120s as they were as 110s. Even with the range cap I realized because of their high damage, you could step back into range dropoff, which put both 140s and 150s at a disadvantage, and still get a smooth 3 tap to the head, landing the rampage stack or kill clip, and 2 tap people at ranges they couldn't engage. I said that before and nobody believed for some reason or another.
No cap, Sick duality pop off camm 😤definitely get a thumbs up for this video, love u camm!
The Messenger with Desperado will quickly become the best gun in the game.
Incredibly easy to use and could already keep up with 120s, now it'll just be absolutely insane.
Plus it's a legendary in the kinetic slot.
May also be worth noting that the upcoming solstice shotgun (Compass Rose) has potential to be a great alternative to retold tale, being a solar non-slug precision shotty with quite similar stats and rolls from what we've seen.
Love the content my go to destiny content creator, you mentioned specific builds for exotic handcanons, I think a sick video would be ideal builds for most if not all exotic handcannons
3:00 😂 the scramble
I also think people don’t realize that on top of malfeasance being amazing in a team environment you can also get any damage boost and your super easy to use hand cannon becomes a three tap.
Great video cam. Shared it with some of my friends as well 😊
Keep in mind the Timelost weapons from Master VoG can accept adept mods, meaning if you have adept icarus or range, it'll make the Timelost Fatebringer absolutely insane with the right roll (90+ range stat lmao)
i love duality for blink shotgunning. very good base handling for a shotgun, and if the enemy is chipped enough you can just mash left click after blinking and go for the pellet cleanup, rather than the precious milliseconds it takes to ADS when you already have the timer before firing after a blink.
That was some sick gameplay Cam! Gonna have to try that Hunter build with Chaperone and Pali.
Along with the gamers you mentioned, Sheik has been showing Duality A LOT of love since it originally got buffed, it's honestly thanks to him that I saw the value in the gun
Telesto is a menace. I main Fusions in PvP and my favorite archetype is Precision. Telesto is likely a Precison frame, which is why I managed to get accustomed to it fairly quick. I also quickly learned how to set up traps that work a little too well in QP.
I also happen to have a Timeline's Vertex with high range, high stability, and Firmly Planted. I picked that up for fun and saw that it, too, is a menace and could contend in the high-mobility 120/shotgun meta.
Also, I found that a Pulse Rifle and Bottom tree Gunslinger is an excellent pairing with any Fusion because of the stability bump. Especially with Telesto despite the already high stability (the projectiles add to the Knock Em Down timer).
Love how you try to hit this guy through the wall at 17:55
Another weapon to look out for imo would be glacioclasm as if you have the god roll for it you spawn with high impact reserves already active and it can reach some pretty insane ranges
Cammy I have to ask you what is that stasis titan set up you have at 5:45 , that looks sick !
youre right about the ikelos shotgun. An average roll with threat detector has been surprising me with the amount of one shot kills
Nice list, and im happy to see that duality gets the recognition it deserves.
I am wondering though, what are your thoughts on sidearms?
With there being more breathing room in close quarters do you think sidearms will gain a more prevalent niche? Brass attacks and some other sidearms can get up to respectable ranges and then there is also travelers chosen which after a kill has monstrous stats without time limit.
Personally I think they will become good (not OP) for some tighter maps and fools remedy most likely will be the one wrecking shop the most, mainly because of its ease of use. Another amazing one for advanced sidearm players I think will be high albedo with its headseeker rolls.
We love the effort for the background gameplay. My 390 pulse and Duality is my highest kill combo by far, and now I'm gonna get bagged for using it :/
Duality is so damn good. I love it
"yes coolguy, we get it cloudstrike is awesome" hhhdds
love camm
I've really liked my "Contingency Plan" scout rifle. I tend to hang back a little further, so this thing is perfect for me. It doesn't do well up close, but mid-long range- you can't beat it...
I was just using duality most of iron banner before you posted this, I can definitely testify that once you get used to it it's pretty freaking sweet. That combined with the fact that I already have a God role messenger is pretty cool
Ty for the video brother. I found high rank PVP in Destiny 2 pretty fun. And your content has most definitely helped me get better.
Important to note: Timelost/Adept hand cannons can use Adept Icarus Grip; exact same as its vanilla counterpart with an additional +5 to range. Make sure to farm GM's for that mod!
adept icarus only drops from trials flawless chest unfortunately. same with adept charge time, i believe (not 100% sure)
@@allhailthealgorithm after further research, it seems you are correct; sucks that you have to go flawless for it but still get it if you can.
You know the thing I love the most is the fact that before even hearing about them nerfing 120s and shotguns I’ve been using duality and a dire promise for weeks so I’ll be all set when the new meta shifts to those guns!!!
I'm thinking that we'll see the Ace of Spades a lot more in crucible because of the 120 range nerf.
I think you missed one slug with a unique perk combination: I love my First in - Last Out with Hipfire Grip and Opening Shot. I hits some crazy Bullets from the Hip that nobody deserves to hit and is really consistent in ADS. Also it can be pared with an exotic hand cannon (Hawkmoon in my case)
Maybe not in the top 10 but a very honourable mention
Hey cam, another beast of a weapon is vigilence wing, but also any fusion rifle with a half decent roll, slugs may replace shotguns but fusions are about to become the dominant abusive meta with little to no counter
Last Word + Lucky Pants = S+ tier
With the 120 nerf, and the removal of 150rpm hand cannons, The Third Axiom and 390 Pulses will be very good as well. They directly compete with 140s in their range with similar ttk, better flinch, and more forgiveness
Something I didn't hear mentioned about Borrow Time is its a 750.
With that note, the fact it has the Model 8 scope always (it rolls with barrels so that's always the scope) AND rangefinder I farmed for it at the beginning of the season.
The ONLY roll I got with rangefinder had that, high cal, rampage and small bore. Ill say it almost instantly became my favorite smg EVER.
The range for it being a SEVEN FIFTY (my favorite archetype) is nuts. I put about 2k kills on it in a week.
Saw the comments talking about your sick we ran at the end and I didn't believe them, but wow, you were playing on another level there!
In truth, I'm waiting for the day when we get a 450 auto meta, but I'm fine with 140s. Just got a max range waking vigil last night, and it's hungry.
predictions for season 15 meta were very accurate, good video, well done Cammy
Wasn’t duality nerfed this last week with the other shotguns?
Since I think it falls under aggressive it was needed
*nerfed
Nice Cam! that Duality we ran was awesome!
Apparently Crimil's can still drop from end of IB matches if you've gotten it b4, just not from tokens. I don't think I've personally had one drop but I've been hearing it is possible, just very rare. I thankfully have a great roll with Kill clip in the vault I'll be using. It has dropmag on it as well but Bungie is apparently reworking it next season so it may be useless but for now it'll allow me to still reload super fast and have a better perk in column 1.
Amazing as always
Nice duality gameplay, at first I wasn’t so sure about that pellet but now I’m on board
Did you hear that? My soul just shivered
That transition at 3:27 tripped me up lmao
It’s nit picky, but at 14:11 you mentioned something like, ”there is no precision frame shotguns in the kinetic slot.” Did you mean in terms of viability in this meta besides Heritage or something else? Anyways, keep up the great work, always look forward to hearing your thoughts on things.
As someone who fell in love with chappy a while before the changes were announced and im prepared for people using it. Actually played pvp and some guys pulled chappy or switched to chappy from their found verdict/ felwinter
14:12 he said there there's no precision frame shotgun in the kinetic slot, but what about the blasphemer precision kinetic shotgun? Not trying to be rude or anything but did he intentionally leave it out?
Yeah cam that was some sick gameplay! Also I've been using duality recently before this vid came out and can confirm it claps
Cool cheese is a fun player to watch glad the shoutout was given
I’ve been using Duality a ton since it came out, as a wraith hunter main. It’s absolutely ridiculous and I’m glad people are finally catching on.
I have a borrowed time with a max range roll with rangefinder snapshot and it's been feeling really good excited for it as well happy to see it make the list.
Jesus that section at 15:00 reminded me of Rick and Morty when Rick and the president fought. Whole damn team in one room and you killed em all. “Jesus he’s not a god”
OMG that We Ran with the duality at the end of the video! You have to see it!
The SPICY Duality Gameplay
Didn’t believe that last kill on 27:32 was a headshot, but damm thats good gameplay if I’ve ever seen some
Yo, Cammy. If you can get your hands on one - if you run an Arc subclass with Snapshot/Elemental Capacitor on Occluded Finality with Arrowhead and a Handling MW, it hits a perfect 100 Handling. It feels like Quickdraw/Snapshot at all times. Amazing if you can get used to the zoom level.
Oh my god! Was that some sick gameplay? I think it was. Nice one Cam.
I took the time this season to start learning slugs even before these nerfs were announced. I'm glad I did. Sojourner and Duality have been flip flopping in my energy slot for a few weeks now. They're great.