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@@MrPolevaulter Glad you have a sense of humor, man. :) I actually, never use F/X loops. They make me feel distanced from my tones in a weird way. (???)
Late comment I know, but one weird thing I noticed with the AC15 is that the channels interact with each other. So if you’re plugged into the normal channel and have top boost channel volume up (or vice-versa), that’s probably what’s causing the weird resonance and hiss you’re hearing. You’ll want the volume on the channel you’re not using to be rolled all the way off.
Thank you for checking out my amp ! As you put more time on it, the harshness does go away. Also, my amp doesn't have the hiss that yours did. As for the set up, I only use the normal channel. I set the master volume way up, around 3/4, and control the overall volume with the channel volume. You get a much thicker sound when you're working the power tubes. Also, turn the volume on the top boost channel all the way up. Even though you're not using it, there's crosstalk between the two channels. The EQ section on the Top Boost will now affect the normal channel. You can get a lot of great tones by doing this.
This makes no sense. Vox tells you to do the opposite if you want to push the tubes. Turn the volume all the way up, and then use the master volume to gradually increase the overall volume.
The fender blues junior is the best selling 15 W valve amp on the planet and guess what? It doesn't have an effects loop! I've had my AC15 for about 15 months now, no rattles, no hisses, 100% reliable and the only downside I see against its competitors is its weight.
Yes!!! I started with a blues Jr (after playing without an amp for months) and had to sell it after short time cause I couldn't stand the hissing and rattling. Ive been in love with the Vox last couple years
@Grandslamwich It’s mostly being able to control your tone before touching your akp. You already know the amp sounds good clean and after that people just need to learn how to setup their pedals properly. That’s why people go through so many pedals never deciding on anything. They all sound good at the store but then you leave and everything’s a mess.
I love the Vox AC 30 very warm sounding amp very simular to how marshalls used to sound . I dont know why heavy rock players dont use it more. It's incredible warm and the overdrive is smooth and capable of very heavy guitar times.
Just a little note, if you live in a place that gets really hot and you leave it in the heat for 2 hours or so, the handle will soften and mold into a different shape.
Thanks for showing us how you play instead of how the amp sounds, by the way. Also, overstating the lack of an FX Loop. That was highly appreciated. I looked mine, and was shocked and outraged. That's why I've been running my pedals through the front end of my AC15! Happy Shredding.
I believe one reason for reviews like this is they also tell us what the product DOESN’T have. Unlike the manufacturer. That’s important stuff. Thank you very much for this, professor. 👍🏻(By the way, I love VOX amps, so no hard feelings toward them, either.)
You have given the exact review. Everyone is just playing overdrives and comparing amps. Also fx loop is a must. You have explained very nicely. Hats off
I have used one for a couple years now, I plug in my pedal board to the normal channel only and do use a noise gate in the signal chain. Honestly sounds really good and can play at any volume. I do also highly recommend an eq pedal but I don’t miss the effects loop that I have on my other amps, still produces pristine reverbs and delays in front. Great video!
I run two of these amps in stereo for studio and gigging. They are such a dream to use. Create your own effects loop in parallel with a gigrig wetter box, simple.
What a coincidence! After more than 30 years of playing through Marshalls, I bought the big brother, the Vox AC30 S1 a few weeks ago. It does have a FX loop and costed me also €599 new. To me, that is ridiculously cheap for a valve amp Someone called it a Cheap Chinese Budget Amp, with only a top boost channel and a poorly Celestion VX12, the much despised copy of the 70/80... But, I like it!! I've only played it for a few weeks now, but it just totally changed my approach (and my pedal board) and I can simply link it through my EQ pedal to one of my Marshalls to have even more fun....
I had one up until recently. It had no hiss or a weird resonance. But, as I got more effects pedals, I decided to sell it and will eventually purchase an AC-30 head. As always, great review, Elmo. 🤘
Had an AC15 CC1 since what 05 (ish). Played it loads after swapping the stock speaker to a Weber Alnico Blue (good exchange rates at the time). I also swapped in some JJ Tubes but in all honesty, none of that did more than change an already super amp. I would have been happy with stock everything but wanted to mod once (it's not something I usually do). Never had an issue and yes I can see why some want an effects loops, but I don't get past crunch with mine and don't care. Simple as amp that does loads........Biggish cab and sounds bigger and LOUDER than you might first expect. Anywhere where the headroom is not enough would have PAs anyway ...............My thoughts:) .........In fact I am in the market for a quality smaller valve unit.
Nice video. Teet fantastista työtä! (I hope I spelled that right...) I have to say, I would love to hear you doing your amazing solos, out of all kinds of rigs you own back to back !
Thanks! Yeah you spelled it right :) I don't actually have too many rigs. I buy the gear I review, which means I sell stuff on as well. The amps behind me aren't all mine.
I’ve heard that when a manufacturer won’t put an effects loop in a line, it’s usually because during R and D they tried it and it change the essential sound of the circuit so they abandon the idea.
@@christophervincent8420 entirely possible. Phil McKnight said he asked Fender about it once and was told adding an FX loops to an amp will change the circuit and ultimately the sound (good or bad change is subjective)
@@christophervincent8420 Maybe Monoprice/Harley Benton don't have a famous "sound" and circuits going back 50 years to ruin with changes? I don't know if @Grant is right but if so it would make sense
@@ImLeuff with today's technology, I highly doubt they can not put an FX loop because of the "sound" issue. They apparently have no "issue" on the 30. It's more of they want you to buy a 30, period.
@@GMec78 like I said, I think they can figure it out. Placement and where is more likely they issue. They did it with the 30! They can do it with the 15.
You don't ruin a classic amp with a effects loop.And in front of a half clean amp like Vox or a Hiwatt any delay pedal will sound great.Especially the wasa craft analog delay.
Great review, Elmo! The lack of an effects loop was a huge bummer for me too. I got a Laney Cub Super 12 instead and I absolutely love it! However I'm actually saving money again, because I really want to replace my old Marshall Valvestate for gigs and band practice. I think I will go for an AC30 C2.
I actually went another direction and bought a used Fender Hotrod Deluxe 4. Took me months until I found the right clean tone. I put a Wampler Plexi Drive in front of it and now it kicks some serious behind!
I have owned a VOX AC 15C1 for a few years now. I get a little bit of a hiss at higher volume, but I don’t get any weird resonance at any volume. I play mostly Gretsch and Les Pauls through mine. Maybe try to exchange it fo a different one? The tone I get from mine is superb!!
That hiss seems a bit excessive, sure its not a defective unit? Delay is the only thing I'd stick in the loop as the amp has a great reverb but even delay can sound good in the front.
I just got one. Used to own an early 2000s model. I prefer this one (circa 2013-14). No problems whatsoever with either of them. For a 7 yrold amp it's dead quiet and has no rattle and hiss. With a Treble Booster and a Crowther Hotcake it roars. An effects loop is unnecessary for this amp imo. It's all about old-school. That "fft fft fft" resonance problem you're hearing is a bad Greenback. They do that sometimes. Get an Alnico Blue. The Reverb in mine is nothing like yours. There's something funky going on there. Mine is lovely and just sits behind your playing.
I think part of the reason that the AC15c1 does not have an insert loop because it already has tremolo and reverb built in. Your only supposed to put modulation pedals in an insert loop anyway. You always put drive pedals before the amp. Most agree chorus sounds pretty good before the amp too. So that really leaves delay as the issue. Frankly, even delay sounds good before the amp if your plugged into the normal clean channel. So while an insert would be nice its not a critical as one might think especially if your running the amp on the clean channel. Having said all that the AC15 probably should of have the same insert loop feature as the AC30 has given its price point.
I came home with a vox 15. for 450.The seller told my, she had years ago the idea playing the guitar. the next day she quit the guitar. and so I have now my first vox besides ac420 my real vox amp.heavy, loud I'm happy!
Hiss or not, a VOX sounds pretty awesome! Miss my AC30! I remember years ago having a pretty wicked tone with an AC30 head, HIWATT 4x12 (bottom cab) with Fanes, an Ibanez copy of a 335 and a BOSS Super Overdrive. Man...the shit you sell sometimes...
Not being able to switch channels with a foot switch is a bigger disappointment than effects loop. I really like the tremolo and great tone. That hiss is a bit annoying though. I would get an AB switch and choose a quiet one.
Get an Orange Rocker 15. Sounds better than the AC-15 and it has a valve driven effects loop. It also has a natural clean channel that has some of the best power tube distortion in its class. I know
I have played it. It's a fine amp. Superb Tremolo. I am into it. It does not do everything but everyone should have one- as well as others. Variety is the spice of life. You can swap out tubes and the speaker too and make it even better. I thought it sounded good even at low volumes. The costs is decent too.
I’ve always been a little confused about the hiss topic, I’ve never thought “what the hell?!” in a live setting because of minor guitar amp hiss that is never that prominent in a live mix. It’s rock & rock for God’s sake! A good studio engineer has no trouble working around that minor-moderate hiss which is mostly from single coil guitars of course. It would be great to do another quick demo with a HH guitar. I have a AC15-C2 which has truly glorious tones & It’s what I’ve been searching for, for decades (& I’m a bass player first) I’ve played with many guitarists using various high quality gear & VOX is by far one of the best ever. I could care less about the lack of an effects loop, (never used them) & my pedals sound killer straight into the AC12-C2. Thanks again Elmo!🤘🏼🎸🔥
The hiss & noise issues worry me quite a bit. I had an ac4tv head/cab combo that had a truely lovely sound but LOTS of hiss (even with no guitar plugged in). I thought the issues were because it was a cheap and maybe not fully professional amp, but apparently the far more expensive Ac15 has similar issues? Is it a quality control problem or do they commonly sound like this?!
elmo, Glen, I just picked up a used VOX AC15-C1 112 Combo and it seems to be very "touchy" with LOUD Popping noises whenever I flip a switch on guitar, or when I flip from standby mode to ON. I already installed all new JJ tubes and it didn't help much. I already checked the boards, and everything looks very clean, no burnt or oozing resistors, etc.. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
i am. Hey, great video tones and playing! :o) An amp tech could add the FX LOOP and true bypass though correct? 15:21 what overdrive? like an OCD clean boost? Boss SD-1? or what? i am..... .................................................................................................................................................. i play 8 string thrash metaLz and am looking at this amp and the DSL40c. However open to any suggestions. Amps i like are the randall and peavey solid state and tube amps, and the EVH 5150 III amp head for metal with my 6,7,8, string metal guitars. if i did get this amplifier, i would change the speaker use the overdrive you had on this thing, although your guitar is full of wooly tone i can tell. And i would add an FX loop. i could use a marshall DSL and not need to add an FX loop, although i wonder what the quality of FX loop it is. oh well anyway, i haven't had succes with marshalls for 8 string metaL without EQ and select speaker range. Although this amplifier shall be my quick carry unit. i shall put it in a box with two speakers not a single speaker, and be able to crank it more hopefully, well it does have a master so there is that. well thank you soo much for your review of this amplifier and assessment. i have played AC 30 with my 8 string and it has more potentiaL than other amps like the amps that do not work , i don't even like the boss katana, or line 6 anymore, and like the blackstar sound, although their hybrids and full digital do not keep up, and sound of trash on my 8 string. just saying, however the blackstar silverline sounded good and kept up, it was great in a line 6 kind of way although a little bit better and sounds voxy also,. Well thanks bye.
Never used a Vox amp. But that thing puts out some nice clean tones backed up with all that reverb. The amount of sustain in the gain channel is also great ..
The noisy hiss problem can be remedied easy by cutting your volume knob on your guitar off between songs, just saying btw my AC15C1 isn't noisy so maybe yours has a problem
I own this amp and fortunately I’ve never used an effects loop , so for me it’s a non issue. That being said I purchased reverb and delay pedals that have mix controls, also making over saturation of these units a non issue. Love the amp, great video.🎸🇺🇸
I have an AC 15 , you’re right on the mark with everything, it’s noisy and it’s even noisier with a treble booster,😬, but it sounds good cranked , I also hava Blackstar mk11 ht 20, which I love and does have an FX loop , great honest demo as usual , Rock on 🤘
How about the pickups in that Strat? Your rig sounds like crap at my end. Are you running the cut really high? I have the same amp with a blue speaker and it works great. I play either a Lester, a pedal steel or a Strat and they all sound great.
I've owned 2 Vox amps in my lifetime. Both sounded amazing, both were totally unreliable. A pity really. The AC15 sounds great, but it would appear that there are issues that need addressing.
Yeah my ac15 I had for about a year and didn't have that many miles on it one day the fuse blew and I take it to the repair shop and they're like dude it's going to cost like $400 to fix this stupid thing. At the same time he fixed my Marshall combo for $60. Now I play a Fender Deluxe Reverb
I just got a dream guitar, for me, I freggin love a Les Paul gold top, and hence, have always wanted a Gibson Les paul gold top with p-90’s, but they’re pricey, so I had been looking at the epiphone ‘56 with the gold top and the p-90’s, but had always had the issue of I have the money and can’t find one anywhere, or I can find them and play them, but am broke! Finally the time came where the universe aligned, and I was finally able to get one, and I absolutely love it! Playing and hearing it, they are a different animal for a Les Paul! The 90’s have some hiss, and him, but oooooohhhhhhh man, the tone! Now I’m looking for a better tube amp so I can get the right sound! How do you feel about p-90’s, and I know “a Marshall and a Les Paul…..” blah blah blah, I know they work well together, usually, do you have a recommendation for a different amp that would help accentuate the guitars nuances?
So you got the 56 epi ? I take it you like it, I'm thinking of getting one myself but they don't seem to exist in my neck of the woods. Does it do clean well or are the pickups muddy?
@@ImLeuff the sound is great! It’s got that single coil chime on the top end, but the heft when you need it! The saddest thing is; sweetwater won’t be getting anything from epiphone for months, however there is a store in Beltsville Maryland called Atomic Music, they have one that is brand new, as well as a blue model! The one that’s new is I believe roughly six hondo, and the blue is like four fifty! If your looking at them, want one, do yourself a favor! I love mine! Oddly enough I’m thinking of going and trying the Ernie ball .085 set! The nines feel great, but why not try something different right? I also top wrap, which makes a difference in the sustain of all Les pauls! But it is one of those guitars that make you want to not only play, but sound better!
I’ve always been a fan of Brian mays and Tom Delonges newer tones, this amp is perfect for sparkly clean Brian may tones as well as dirty Tom Delonge tones.
Hello Elmo, first of all, as always thanks you for the great review! After playing for more than 10 years and beeing away from it for the last 15 years, I decided to get back into playing right before the pandemic sh*t hit the fan! I live in Portugal now and most of my old amps and pedals are still in Brazil (and god knows when I'll be able to bring them here). Since january 2020 I've been playing with a Bias FX 2 - which was awesome btw - to take the rust away of my hands... But now I miss the feel of a real amp. I did a little research and I found three amps that really sparked my insterest, the Marshal DSL1HR Head + 12" speaker cabinet (you reviewed the combo), the Marshall Origin 20C combo (you reviewed the head) and the Harley Benton tube 15. Given that I'll most likely be only playing by myself and that I´ll be playing 60~70´s classic rock and blues, which of those three would you recommend as the starting point of building a new rig (to take pedals in the future and versatile enough to drive single coils, humbuckers, active pickups and etc for when I have all of my guitars back with me again)?
I need a vintage tone amp that takes pedals very well I know vox is vox but which of these amp do you take for garage and punk tones ac15 c1 $1100 new Or Marshall origin 50H $650 new ?
I find most amps with the exception of the JVM, JCM don't have a good enough bottom end and the 5150 is too top heavy. Every amp is a compromise I am finding out. I like Marshalls the best myself
Suomi guy with ponytail walks into a shop with €600. His choice is this, or Marshall Origin 50C (€485, lighter, louder, effects loop, incl. footswitch, no reverb)?
A GOOD effects loop is in fact a costly affair and would add a lot to the price. The appeal of the AC15 is more a ”back to basics” thing anyway so I think this omission is reasonable. The hiss & noise issues however are very concerning. Wouldn’t want to save up for my dream amp and have to deal with that. Do you think all AC15:s are like this or is there a problem with this particular copy?
Did you ever get the noise on this assessed by a tech? I recently bought one, re-tubed it, and still have noise. Curious if the 'defective unit' thing is real.
Does sound much more muffled than my AC15. But I have an alnico speaker and upgraded tubes. Stock tubes often are quite bad in Vox amps unfortunately. I simply love the AC15. But for the classic Vox sound, you got to have an alnico speaker. Otherwise it leans towards a marshall sound I think, and that is WRONG 😅
The greenback has so much clarity compared to many other speakers but when driven hard, it definetly *is* the marshall sound. I think it is geared more for high gain stuff while the alnico stuff should be better suited for cleaner tones.
when u switch chanels, u need to unplug input from normal and plug to top boost input ? or u can do it with foot switch ? because its stupid iff u need to unplug it and plug into top boost in the middle of playing. And also iff it comes with footswitch do you have it with amp or u have to buy separatelly? im interesting in buying this amp just this is on the way of making my mind.
Nice one Elmo! I also rely heavily on an effects loop in my amplifier ; all the tube amps I bought in the past HAD to have an effects loop (Blackstar, Marshall, Friedman, etc.) as I wanted to use the gain channels on those amplifiers with external reverb swells when I was gigging (it sounds terrible through the front). You'd be amazed how many modern "Boutique" amplifiers over £2000 (like Tone King, Carr, Swart, Morgan) DO NOT have an effects loop! I have demo'd so many of these great amps when I use to work in a guitar store, but I'd always get asked by customers why I chose a Friedman over the others. My answer "I fell in love with the Friedman - and it has an effects loop!" Loads of Love, Gabe
Hey Elmo, Nice review as usual. I own one myself and I agree: great amp but an effect loop would be nice. Would appreciate it if you could review the Hiwatt T40/20 MkIII head. I'm planning to buy one of these but can not really find some good reviews.
I have the T20/10 head. Eric Haugen has the T20/10 Mk.2 combo. Maybe check out his channel for a rough idea of what you might be getting with the higher wattage version.
Hi Elmo, great video. Since you are talking Vox here, do you have an opinion on the Vox VT20X? Considering to get one as my "practice/bedroom amp", got limited space and it seems to be a good option for the variety of sounds that you can get out of it.... Cheers
Heya everyone, Who do you think makes the best LOOKING (not sounding) combos? VOX, Orange, Marshall, Peavy etc etc. I personally like the JHS “LOUD IS MORE GOOD” amp (by Milkman) for something different...
I'm glad that somebody is bringing denim-shorts back in style :D The amp sounded great when you cranked it. I was not impressed in the beginning at lower volume.
Ah VOX such a beautiful amp that sounds sooo good. But as a soundengineer I kinda hate them especially in small clubs because to get a good tone they needs to be driven kinda hard and then they are LOUD. I wished I could justify the high price but my wallet and my back screams NOOOO! These amps are heavy and if you go AC30 or AC50 you need a crew🤣 But the weight comes from all those big fat transformer that I believe is a hugh part of their great sound. Great review as always Elmo🤙 And a HUGE thanks for playing some juicy Brian May riffs.
Great video, I have one of these and it is a finicky fucking amp. It is very picky about which overdrive you use coming to the noise output. Also the way you stack your petals in certain combinations makes a huge difference with the sound in the noise department. It’s the only amp I have to be this exact with keeping my peddles in a certain configuration, and I always have a noise gate last in line before going in to the amp. I pick mine up used, I do love the speaker and the sound when pushing it though especially with single coils. Great job Elmo! Cheers brother
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Vox are making these amps as cheap as they can. The C2 range has a partical board cabinet and no valve rectifier. The Custom Classic range had better spec with Baltic Birch cabinets and the AC30 had a GZ34 rectifier valve.
Both volumes at full bore... blimey must be loud in room but sounded good. I have amps that I use live that I have never had past 12 O'clock. Clearly I am missing something and so is audience : ). As always a good review. There are loads of reviews but I enjoyed yours for being comprehensive. Thanks again
I had the C2 model and I liked it a lot. The only things that bothered me about it were 1. The reverb was literally non existent. It was really poor. I had it looked at for a mechanical fault it was so bad. It bothered me that they put in such an ineffective circuit. 2. The weight was absolutely punishing.
Nah i absolutely agree with you here. I wouldn’t mind doing that kind of a job (with my limited skills) on cheap or project amp but im not trying to spend that kind of money on something I would have to take apart and work on. Love vox but that alone is a hard pass for me
Cool review sir. Not my cup of tea I'm afraid. Back in the late 80s or early 90s I went to see Rush for about the 4th time and Rory Gallagher opened for them and I'd not heard of him at the time and he killed it and was using this beat up really old looking strat and about 200 of these amps it looked like. 🤣🤟 Man, he sounded great. There's a Beatles themed group here locally that uses these, but I think they use the 30 watt versions. I just like 5150 type amps and Soldano, and Plexis. Just my thing. The effects loop is important. Especially if using delay, etc. That thing would drive me nufs just because of the noise. For that amount of money which I think is about 725 or so dollars I could get a Marshall DSL 20 or even 40 and be much happier. Thanks man. Hope you and yours are well.
Down South of me in Hoosier Country there is the big mail order company Sweetwater. They sell these for $699.99. I can certainly understand not wanting to tear into a brand new expensive amp to "break" the circuit and add an effects loop. Nice playing, maybe it will get me to get back to practicing in this cooler weather.
The VOX AC15C1 is one of the best amps on the planet. If I wanted an eFX loop, I would buy a modeling amp. (Hiss? Dude you don’t know how to dial it in or you need to replace those ancient tubes).
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The picture was not Brian May :) but the basist Deacon
@@niceguy6325 That was the joke 😀
@@MrPolevaulter Glad you have a sense of humor, man. :)
I actually, never use F/X loops. They make me feel distanced from my tones in a weird way. (???)
Late comment I know, but one weird thing I noticed with the AC15 is that the channels interact with each other. So if you’re plugged into the normal channel and have top boost channel volume up (or vice-versa), that’s probably what’s causing the weird resonance and hiss you’re hearing. You’ll want the volume on the channel you’re not using to be rolled all the way off.
"I've been a Brian May fan all my life," and then shows photograph of Queen bassist John Deacon.
Finnish humor at it's best :D
It was intentional (duh) and quite funny. Would've been even funnier it was a photo of one of the guitar playing sisters from The Shags.
He probably got it off google
I cannot laughing.
It's a well known fact that John Deacon was a fan of Brian May all HIS life too ...
Thank you for checking out my amp ! As you put more time on it, the harshness does go away. Also, my amp doesn't have the hiss that yours did. As for the set up, I only use the normal channel. I set the master volume way up, around 3/4, and control the overall volume with the channel volume. You get a much thicker sound when you're working the power tubes. Also, turn the volume on the top boost channel all the way up. Even though you're not using it, there's crosstalk between the two channels. The EQ section on the Top Boost will now affect the normal channel. You can get a lot of great tones by doing this.
I do the same. This is exactly how to get a nice clean tone out of it
This makes no sense. Vox tells you to do the opposite if you want to push the tubes. Turn the volume all the way up, and then use the master volume to gradually increase the overall volume.
The fender blues junior is the best selling 15 W valve amp on the planet and guess what? It doesn't have an effects loop! I've had my AC15 for about 15 months now, no rattles, no hisses, 100% reliable and the only downside I see against its competitors is its weight.
Yes!!! I started with a blues Jr (after playing without an amp for months) and had to sell it after short time cause I couldn't stand the hissing and rattling. Ive been in love with the Vox last couple years
Heavy and bulky. I sold my blues jr and kept my ac15
I never use effects loops. I think it’s stupid
@Grandslamwich It’s mostly being able to control your tone before touching your akp. You already know the amp sounds good clean and after that people just need to learn how to setup their pedals properly. That’s why people go through so many pedals never deciding on anything.
They all sound good at the store but then you leave and everything’s a mess.
True! I think if I had a high gain amp I’d use it but not on something that doesn’t get too dirty
I love the Vox AC 30 very warm sounding amp very simular to how marshalls used to sound . I dont know why heavy rock players dont use it more. It's incredible warm and the overdrive is smooth and capable of very heavy guitar times.
the true sound of rock is still Marshall, Orange, Mesa. Vox too. but not like those three
Just a little note, if you live in a place that gets really hot and you leave it in the heat for 2 hours or so, the handle will soften and mold into a different shape.
Thanks for showing us how you play instead of how the amp sounds, by the way. Also, overstating the lack of an FX Loop. That was highly appreciated. I looked mine, and was shocked and outraged.
That's why I've been running my pedals through the front end of my AC15! Happy Shredding.
Thinking of getting one so this was very helpful. Thanks for the review. In the spirit of reviews, I'd like to give the jean shorts a 10/10.
:D
Fender's classic designs don't have FX loops either, just run delays into the front just like us old school cats did for decades.
I believe one reason for reviews like this is they also tell us what the product DOESN’T have. Unlike the manufacturer. That’s important stuff. Thank you very much for this, professor. 👍🏻(By the way, I love VOX amps, so no hard feelings toward them, either.)
Cheers!
@@MrPolevaulter a really good , genuine, well made all tube amp with effects loop and spring tank today is between $2000 & $3500 . Not $600
You have given the exact review. Everyone is just playing overdrives and comparing amps. Also fx loop is a must. You have explained very nicely. Hats off
Fx loop is a must? 😂. Get yourself a Fender GT100. VOX are classics.
I have used one for a couple years now, I plug in my pedal board to the normal channel only and do use a noise gate in the signal chain. Honestly sounds really good and can play at any volume. I do also highly recommend an eq pedal but I don’t miss the effects loop that I have on my other amps, still produces pristine reverbs and delays in front. Great video!
Thanks!
Can you eq the chime away and get a tone similar to a clean fender?
The worlds greatest exponent of delay plugs his guitar straight into the front of his AC30. No FX loop required.
This amp is SO robust. Total breadwinner
I run two of these amps in stereo for studio and gigging. They are such a dream to use. Create your own effects loop in parallel with a gigrig wetter box, simple.
What a coincidence! After more than 30 years of playing through Marshalls, I bought the big brother, the Vox AC30 S1 a few weeks ago. It does have a FX loop and costed me also €599 new. To me, that is ridiculously cheap for a valve amp
Someone called it a Cheap Chinese Budget Amp, with only a top boost channel and a poorly Celestion VX12, the much despised copy of the 70/80...
But, I like it!! I've only played it for a few weeks now, but it just totally changed my approach (and my pedal board) and I can simply link it through my EQ pedal to one of my Marshalls to have even more fun....
I had one up until recently. It had no hiss or a weird resonance.
But, as I got more effects pedals, I decided to sell it and will eventually purchase an AC-30 head.
As always, great review, Elmo. 🤘
Thanks!
Had an AC15 CC1 since what 05 (ish). Played it loads after swapping the stock speaker to a Weber Alnico Blue (good exchange rates at the time). I also swapped in some JJ Tubes but in all honesty, none of that did more than change an already super amp. I would have been happy with stock everything but wanted to mod once (it's not something I usually do). Never had an issue and yes I can see why some want an effects loops, but I don't get past crunch with mine and don't care. Simple as amp that does loads........Biggish cab and sounds bigger and LOUDER than you might first expect. Anywhere where the headroom is not enough would have PAs anyway ...............My thoughts:) .........In fact I am in the market for a quality smaller valve unit.
Nice video. Teet fantastista työtä! (I hope I spelled that right...)
I have to say, I would love to hear you doing your amazing solos, out of all kinds of rigs you own back to back !
Thanks! Yeah you spelled it right :)
I don't actually have too many rigs. I buy the gear I review, which means I sell stuff on as well. The amps behind me aren't all mine.
I’ve heard that when a manufacturer won’t put an effects loop in a line, it’s usually because during R and D they tried it and it change the essential sound of the circuit so they abandon the idea.
They put one in the Monoprice/Harley Benton amp. I think they just don't want too.
@@christophervincent8420 entirely possible. Phil McKnight said he asked Fender about it once and was told adding an FX loops to an amp will change the circuit and ultimately the sound (good or bad change is subjective)
@@christophervincent8420 Maybe Monoprice/Harley Benton don't have a famous "sound" and circuits going back 50 years to ruin with changes? I don't know if @Grant is right but if so it would make sense
@@ImLeuff with today's technology, I highly doubt they can not put an FX loop because of the "sound" issue. They apparently have no "issue" on the 30. It's more of they want you to buy a 30, period.
@@GMec78 like I said, I think they can figure it out. Placement and where is more likely they issue. They did it with the 30! They can do it with the 15.
You don't ruin a classic amp with a effects loop.And in front of a half clean amp like Vox or a Hiwatt any delay pedal will sound great.Especially the wasa craft analog delay.
I’ve been using this amp as a clean pedal platform. Works awesome in this mode
Settings?
@@bentenpeterson I just crank up the power amp and lower the pre amp. So it’s very clean. Eq all straight up
Great review, Elmo! The lack of an effects loop was a huge bummer for me too. I got a Laney Cub Super 12 instead and I absolutely love it! However I'm actually saving money again, because I really want to replace my old Marshall Valvestate for gigs and band practice. I think I will go for an AC30 C2.
Cool 😊
I actually went another direction and bought a used Fender Hotrod Deluxe 4. Took me months until I found the right clean tone. I put a Wampler Plexi Drive in front of it and now it kicks some serious behind!
Screw an effects loop. Just guitar, cable and amp with a Vox. An effects loop on a Vox is like buying a Ferrari with a hybrid engine.
I have owned a VOX AC 15C1 for a few years now. I get a little bit of a hiss at higher volume, but I don’t get any weird resonance at any volume. I play mostly Gretsch and Les Pauls through mine. Maybe try to exchange it fo a different one? The tone I get from mine is superb!!
That hiss seems a bit excessive, sure its not a defective unit?
Delay is the only thing I'd stick in the loop as the amp has a great reverb but even delay can sound good in the front.
$800 in the states…just ordered one from amazon ,awaiting delivery
I just got one. Used to own an early 2000s model. I prefer this one (circa 2013-14).
No problems whatsoever with either of them. For a 7 yrold amp it's dead quiet and has no rattle and hiss.
With a Treble Booster and a Crowther Hotcake it roars.
An effects loop is unnecessary for this amp imo. It's all about old-school.
That "fft fft fft" resonance problem you're hearing is a bad Greenback. They do that sometimes. Get an Alnico Blue.
The Reverb in mine is nothing like yours. There's something funky going on there. Mine is lovely and just sits behind your playing.
I think part of the reason that the AC15c1 does not have an insert loop because it already has tremolo and reverb built in. Your only supposed to put modulation pedals in an insert loop anyway. You always put drive pedals before the amp. Most agree chorus sounds pretty good before the amp too. So that really leaves delay as the issue. Frankly, even delay sounds good before the amp if your plugged into the normal clean channel. So while an insert would be nice its not a critical as one might think especially if your running the amp on the clean channel. Having said all that the AC15 probably should of have the same insert loop feature as the AC30 has given its price point.
I came home with a vox 15. for 450.The seller told my, she had years ago the idea playing the guitar. the next day she quit the guitar. and so I have now my first vox besides ac420 my real vox amp.heavy, loud I'm happy!
Hiss or not, a VOX sounds pretty awesome! Miss my AC30! I remember years ago having a pretty wicked tone with an AC30 head, HIWATT 4x12 (bottom cab) with Fanes, an Ibanez copy of a 335 and a BOSS Super Overdrive. Man...the shit you sell sometimes...
I know there not perfect, especially with regards to low volume playing, but I've never played a Vox that didn't have a sound I like!
I’ve owned an AC15 too heavy and too loud for home use. I traded it in for a blues cube which does it for me.
Not being able to switch channels with a foot switch is a bigger disappointment than effects loop. I really like the tremolo and great tone. That hiss is a bit annoying though. I would get an AB switch and choose a quiet one.
It's is good! Only high gain amps need effects loops.
It's not a high gain amp but it has enough gain to mush the reverb when you have to go through the front. It has on board reverb though so......
Get an Orange Rocker 15. Sounds better than the AC-15 and it has a valve driven effects loop. It also has a natural clean channel that has some of the best power tube distortion in its class. I know
You make that thing sound great !
sounds like a microphonic tube. I have a VOX handwired... it has these rubber dampers on all the tubes. I guess it's aftermarket.
Once you cranked it and slammed it, it certainly came to life. Great tones when it was wide open and pushed.
I don’t get the noise with mine it’s a fantastic amp
I have played it. It's a fine amp. Superb Tremolo. I am into it. It does not do everything but everyone should have one- as well as others. Variety is the spice of life. You can swap out tubes and the speaker too and make it even better. I thought it sounded good even at low volumes. The costs is decent too.
I’ve always been a little confused about the hiss topic, I’ve never thought “what the hell?!” in a live setting because of minor guitar amp hiss that is never that prominent in a live mix. It’s rock & rock for God’s sake! A good studio engineer has no trouble working around that minor-moderate hiss which is mostly from single coil guitars of course. It would be great to do another quick demo with a HH guitar. I have a AC15-C2 which has truly glorious tones & It’s what I’ve been searching for, for decades (& I’m a bass player first) I’ve played with many guitarists using various high quality gear & VOX is by far one of the best ever. I could care less about the lack of an effects loop, (never used them) & my pedals sound killer straight into the AC12-C2. Thanks again Elmo!🤘🏼🎸🔥
The hiss & noise issues worry me quite a bit. I had an ac4tv head/cab combo that had a truely lovely sound but LOTS of hiss (even with no guitar plugged in). I thought the issues were because it was a cheap and maybe not fully professional amp, but apparently the far more expensive Ac15 has similar issues? Is it a quality control problem or do they commonly sound like this?!
The VOX AC - line sounds really nice with a Telecaster ‼️🤪👍✨
elmo, Glen, I just picked up a used VOX AC15-C1 112 Combo and it seems to be very "touchy" with LOUD Popping noises whenever I flip a switch on guitar, or when I flip from standby mode to ON. I already installed all new JJ tubes and it didn't help much. I already checked the boards, and everything looks very clean, no burnt or oozing resistors, etc.. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Don't know. Sorry.
i am. Hey, great video tones and playing! :o) An amp tech could add the FX LOOP and true bypass though correct? 15:21 what overdrive? like an OCD clean boost? Boss SD-1? or what? i am.....
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i play 8 string thrash metaLz and am looking at this amp and the DSL40c. However open to any suggestions. Amps i like are the randall and peavey solid state and tube amps, and the EVH 5150 III amp head for metal with my 6,7,8, string metal guitars. if i did get this amplifier, i would change the speaker use the overdrive you had on this thing, although your guitar is full of wooly tone i can tell. And i would add an FX loop. i could use a marshall DSL and not need to add an FX loop, although i wonder what the quality of FX loop it is. oh well anyway, i haven't had succes with marshalls for 8 string metaL without EQ and select speaker range. Although this amplifier shall be my quick carry unit. i shall put it in a box with two speakers not a single speaker, and be able to crank it more hopefully, well it does have a master so there is that. well thank you soo much for your review of this amplifier and assessment. i have played AC 30 with my 8 string and it has more potentiaL than other amps like the amps that do not work , i don't even like the boss katana, or line 6 anymore, and like the blackstar sound, although their hybrids and full digital do not keep up, and sound of trash on my 8 string. just saying, however the blackstar silverline sounded good and kept up, it was great in a line 6 kind of way although a little bit better and sounds voxy also,. Well thanks bye.
Never used a Vox amp. But that thing puts out some nice clean tones backed up with all that reverb.
The amount of sustain in the gain channel is also great ..
The noisy hiss problem can be remedied easy by cutting your volume knob on your guitar off between songs, just saying btw my AC15C1 isn't noisy so maybe yours has a problem
The hiss isn't from the guitar. I know this because I automatically cut the volume when I'm not playing.
The hiss is from having the volume on the channel you aren't using on. Turn it off and the amp will be silent.
I own this amp and fortunately I’ve never used an effects loop , so for me it’s a non issue. That being said I purchased reverb and delay pedals that have mix controls, also making over saturation of these units a non issue. Love the amp, great video.🎸🇺🇸
Cheers!
I have an AC 15 , you’re right on the mark with everything, it’s noisy and it’s even noisier with a treble booster,😬, but it sounds good cranked , I also hava Blackstar mk11 ht 20, which I love and does have an FX loop , great honest demo as usual , Rock on 🤘
I don’t get a lot of noise with mine I guess it depends on the quality of the pedals as well But mine is very quiet
How about the pickups in that Strat? Your rig sounds like crap at my end. Are you running the cut really high? I have the same amp with a blue speaker and it works great. I play either a Lester, a pedal steel or a Strat and they all sound great.
I've owned 2 Vox amps in my lifetime. Both sounded amazing, both were totally unreliable. A pity really. The AC15 sounds great, but it would appear that there are issues that need addressing.
Yeah my ac15 I had for about a year and didn't have that many miles on it one day the fuse blew and I take it to the repair shop and they're like dude it's going to cost like $400 to fix this stupid thing. At the same time he fixed my Marshall combo for $60. Now I play a Fender Deluxe Reverb
I just got a dream guitar, for me, I freggin love a Les Paul gold top, and hence, have always wanted a Gibson Les paul gold top with p-90’s, but they’re pricey, so I had been looking at the epiphone ‘56 with the gold top and the p-90’s, but had always had the issue of I have the money and can’t find one anywhere, or I can find them and play them, but am broke! Finally the time came where the universe aligned, and I was finally able to get one, and I absolutely love it! Playing and hearing it, they are a different animal for a Les Paul! The 90’s have some hiss, and him, but oooooohhhhhhh man, the tone! Now I’m looking for a better tube amp so I can get the right sound! How do you feel about p-90’s, and I know “a Marshall and a Les Paul…..” blah blah blah, I know they work well together, usually, do you have a recommendation for a different amp that would help accentuate the guitars nuances?
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe. And, you can add a matching extension cab, to go to a 2X12 sound.
Check Greg Koch's signature Fishman P-90 pickups, no noise. And he's the man.
So you got the 56 epi ? I take it you like it, I'm thinking of getting one myself but they don't seem to exist in my neck of the woods. Does it do clean well or are the pickups muddy?
@@ImLeuff the sound is great! It’s got that single coil chime on the top end, but the heft when you need it! The saddest thing is; sweetwater won’t be getting anything from epiphone for months, however there is a store in Beltsville Maryland called Atomic Music, they have one that is brand new, as well as a blue model! The one that’s new is I believe roughly six hondo, and the blue is like four fifty! If your looking at them, want one, do yourself a favor! I love mine! Oddly enough I’m thinking of going and trying the Ernie ball .085 set! The nines feel great, but why not try something different right? I also top wrap, which makes a difference in the sustain of all Les pauls! But it is one of those guitars that make you want to not only play, but sound better!
@@kipponi I was just looking at those last night, and “he is the man”?!?! Truer words have never been spoken! Hahaha! I love greg!
I’ve always been a fan of Brian mays and Tom Delonges newer tones, this amp is perfect for sparkly clean Brian may tones as well as dirty Tom Delonge tones.
Hello Elmo, first of all, as always thanks you for the great review! After playing for more than 10 years and beeing away from it for the last 15 years, I decided to get back into playing right before the pandemic sh*t hit the fan! I live in Portugal now and most of my old amps and pedals are still in Brazil (and god knows when I'll be able to bring them here). Since january 2020 I've been playing with a Bias FX 2 - which was awesome btw - to take the rust away of my hands... But now I miss the feel of a real amp. I did a little research and I found three amps that really sparked my insterest, the Marshal DSL1HR Head + 12" speaker cabinet (you reviewed the combo), the Marshall Origin 20C combo (you reviewed the head) and the Harley Benton tube 15. Given that I'll most likely be only playing by myself and that I´ll be playing 60~70´s classic rock and blues, which of those three would you recommend as the starting point of building a new rig (to take pedals in the future and versatile enough to drive single coils, humbuckers, active pickups and etc for when I have all of my guitars back with me again)?
Personally, I'd take the Tube15 out of those. You can easily upgrade the speaker in it, and it just sounds great. It takes pedals nicely too.
I need a vintage tone amp that takes pedals very well I know vox is vox but which of these amp do you take for garage and punk tones ac15 c1 $1100 new Or Marshall origin 50H $650 new ?
Not sure.
I find most amps with the exception of the JVM, JCM don't have a good enough bottom end and the 5150 is too top heavy. Every amp is a compromise I am finding out. I like Marshalls the best myself
I wonder if it has an effects loop.
I just love strat and Vox combination
How loud can it get? Good for gigs and practice spaces with a live drummer? Thanks.
Suomi guy with ponytail walks into a shop with €600. His choice is this, or Marshall Origin 50C (€485, lighter, louder, effects loop, incl. footswitch, no reverb)?
Origin I'd say.
A GOOD effects loop is in fact a costly affair and would add a lot to the price. The appeal of the AC15 is more a ”back to basics” thing anyway so I think this omission is reasonable.
The hiss & noise issues however are very concerning. Wouldn’t want to save up for my dream amp and have to deal with that. Do you think all AC15:s are like this or is there a problem with this particular copy?
Sounds liks the perfect edge of break up amp. Watch out for tube wrattle though.
Nice review, my only issue is that the picture of Brian May is actually John Deacon the bass player.
That was the joke.
I don’t get that hiss with my amp And I really don’t need an affect loop with it
Did you ever get the noise on this assessed by a tech? I recently bought one, re-tubed it, and still have noise. Curious if the 'defective unit' thing is real.
No. Just sold it.
Besides, the noise was made worse in the video by compression.
Nice one Elmo! Wich is the best tube amp in this price range?
I don't know, as I've not tried too many.
What’s the difference between the 15 and the 15c1
Off the top of my head, I don't know.
Does sound much more muffled than my AC15. But I have an alnico speaker and upgraded tubes. Stock tubes often are quite bad in Vox amps unfortunately. I simply love the AC15. But for the classic Vox sound, you got to have an alnico speaker. Otherwise it leans towards a marshall sound I think, and that is WRONG 😅
The greenback has so much clarity compared to many other speakers but when driven hard, it definetly *is* the marshall sound. I think it is geared more for high gain stuff while the alnico stuff should be better suited for cleaner tones.
@@madmod I agree. 🤓👍
Now I’m dying to know what it sounded like
Elmo! Wasup bro!
when u switch chanels, u need to unplug input from normal and plug to top boost input ? or u can do it with foot switch ? because its stupid iff u need to unplug it and plug into top boost in the middle of playing. And also iff it comes with footswitch do you have it with amp or u have to buy separatelly? im interesting in buying this amp just this is on the way of making my mind.
Nice one Elmo!
I also rely heavily on an effects loop in my amplifier ; all the tube amps I bought in the past HAD to have an effects loop (Blackstar, Marshall, Friedman, etc.) as I wanted to use the gain channels on those amplifiers with external reverb swells when I was gigging (it sounds terrible through the front).
You'd be amazed how many modern "Boutique" amplifiers over £2000 (like Tone King, Carr, Swart, Morgan) DO NOT have an effects loop!
I have demo'd so many of these great amps when I use to work in a guitar store, but I'd always get asked by customers why I chose a Friedman over the others.
My answer "I fell in love with the Friedman - and it has an effects loop!"
Loads of Love,
Gabe
Cheers Gabe :)
Is Malmsteen's Son a Great Player ? Can This Amp Be Used As An End Table ?
Not sure about the first one, but the second one I'd say "yes" :D
not sure how useful the FX loop is in an amp which gives its best with power amp distortion....
Thanks for saving future me 6 to 7 hundred dollars. Another excellent demo video.
Glad to help! :)
May you take a look at the fender bassbreaker 30r it seems so promising
Long story. I took a look at a smaller one, and will do so again. It broke, and couldn't be repaired :D
Hey Elmo,
Nice review as usual. I own one myself and I agree: great amp but an effect loop would be nice.
Would appreciate it if you could review the Hiwatt T40/20 MkIII head. I'm planning to buy one of these but can not really find some good reviews.
I've heard of Hiwatt, but never actually seen one live. Maybe I will at some point.
I have the T20/10 head. Eric Haugen has the T20/10 Mk.2 combo. Maybe check out his channel for a rough idea of what you might be getting with the higher wattage version.
Hi Elmo, great video.
Since you are talking Vox here, do you have an opinion on the Vox VT20X? Considering to get one as my "practice/bedroom amp", got limited space and it seems to be a good option for the variety of sounds that you can get out of it....
Cheers
Haven't tried one, so no.
Heya everyone, Who do you think makes the best LOOKING (not sounding) combos?
VOX, Orange, Marshall, Peavy etc etc.
I personally like the JHS “LOUD IS MORE GOOD” amp (by Milkman) for something different...
Marshall because logo and gold knobs.
@@kipponi It is iconic. A literal wall of Marshall's would have to be the most common sight in rock I reckon.
@@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt Yes it has burned in the brain. LOGO.
Yeah, Marshall for me.
Vox > Noisy but sounds great
Boss Metal Zone or Katana > almost zero noise , sounds like crap.
Therefore , Noise is Good !
:)
I'm glad that somebody is bringing denim-shorts back in style :D The amp sounded great when you cranked it. I was not impressed in the beginning at lower volume.
:D
Ah VOX such a beautiful amp that sounds sooo good. But as a soundengineer I kinda hate them especially in small clubs because to get a good tone they needs to be driven kinda hard and then they are LOUD. I wished I could justify the high price but my wallet and my back screams NOOOO! These amps are heavy and if you go AC30 or AC50 you need a crew🤣 But the weight comes from all those big fat transformer that I believe is a hugh part of their great sound. Great review as always Elmo🤙 And a HUGE thanks for playing some juicy Brian May riffs.
Thanks! :)
Great video, I have one of these and it is a finicky fucking amp. It is very picky about which overdrive you use coming to the noise output. Also the way you stack your petals in certain combinations makes a huge difference with the sound in the noise department. It’s the only amp I have to be this exact with keeping my peddles in a certain configuration, and I always have a noise gate last in line before going in to the amp. I pick mine up used, I do love the speaker and the sound when pushing it though especially with single coils. Great job Elmo! Cheers brother
Cheers!
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How does it compare to Cube Gx10?
Different beasts. This is 15 watts of valve power, so it gets loud. The Cube doesn't.
you can mod it to have fx loop
Vox are making these amps as cheap as they can. The C2 range has a partical board cabinet and no valve rectifier. The Custom Classic range had better spec with Baltic Birch cabinets and the AC30 had a GZ34 rectifier valve.
Good for viewing during school breaks.
Both volumes at full bore... blimey must be loud in room but sounded good. I have amps that I use live that I have never had past 12 O'clock. Clearly I am missing something and so is audience : ). As always a good review. There are loads of reviews but I enjoyed yours for being comprehensive. Thanks again
Thanks! :)
Your playing is awesome.
Thank you :)
I had the C2 model and I liked it a lot. The only things that bothered me about it were 1. The reverb was literally non existent. It was really poor. I had it looked at for a mechanical fault it was so bad. It bothered me that they put in such an ineffective circuit. 2. The weight was absolutely punishing.
Its a traditional vintage style of amp, completely reasonable for it not to have an fx loop
No effects loop ? I just don't get it . . . literally . . .
Hi Elmo, I really enjoy your channel!! Keep up the good work! What kind of string trees are on your mahogany strat? It seems to hold tune well.
Thanks! I've no idea :D I put guitar lube in the nut and under the string trees. That helps it stay in tune.
Plug in a treble booster and a ESS-335 and play Child in Time - Blackmore for ever!
Nah i absolutely agree with you here. I wouldn’t mind doing that kind of a job (with my limited skills) on cheap or project amp but im not trying to spend that kind of money on something I would have to take apart and work on. Love vox but that alone is a hard pass for me
Cool review sir. Not my cup of tea I'm afraid. Back in the late 80s or early 90s I went to see Rush for about the 4th time and Rory Gallagher opened for them and I'd not heard of him at the time and he killed it and was using this beat up really old looking strat and about 200 of these amps it looked like. 🤣🤟 Man, he sounded great. There's a Beatles themed group here locally that uses these, but I think they use the 30 watt versions.
I just like 5150 type amps and Soldano, and Plexis. Just my thing. The effects loop is important. Especially if using delay, etc. That thing would drive me nufs just because of the noise. For that amount of money which I think is about 725 or so dollars I could get a Marshall DSL 20 or even 40 and be much happier.
Thanks man. Hope you and yours are well.
Down South of me in Hoosier Country there is the big mail order company Sweetwater. They sell these for $699.99. I can certainly understand not wanting to tear into a brand new expensive amp to "break" the circuit and add an effects loop. Nice playing, maybe it will get me to get back to practicing in this cooler weather.
@@daniellarson3068 Yeap. It's quite a ways north of me. I'm in south Indiana.
Cheers! All's well. A bit too busy for my liking, but other than that we're well. Hope you are too :)
The main reason i never looked at this amp ,... no effects loop, and the 30s are too heavey.
The VOX AC15C1 is one of the best amps on the planet. If I wanted an eFX loop, I would buy a modeling amp. (Hiss? Dude you don’t know how to dial it in or you need to replace those ancient tubes).