MAKE YOUR OWN DIY TORO TIMEMASTER DRAG FLAP THAT LASTS
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
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John Deere Original Equipment Shield #M112900 (you will need 2 of these)
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MAKE YOUR OWN DIY TORO TIMEMASTER DRAG FLAP THAT LASTS. Toro definitely cut corners on this part of the Timemaster mower. The first drag flap lasted only 25 hours. The new one only lasted 4 hours. And I'm not spending another dime on a Toro brand drag flap. They just don't last. Watch and see how I make my own! LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!
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Use 2 of these Honda rubber flaps. Trim them to fit left to right. You may also have to cut a little off of the length as they may be a little too long. amzn.to/3dWjDoA
You may need a thinner rod to run across the bottom of the time master. I am not sure of the diameter of the thread hole on the Honda flaps. You could check at Home Depot for the right diameter size. A 36" length will be needed.
This 3/16 Threaded Rod may fit. amzn.to/3uFHcsK
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Due to factors beyond the control of Garage Gear, I cannot guarantee against improper use or unauthorized modifications of this information. Garage Gear assumes no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. Use this information at your own risk. Garage Gear recommends safe practices when working on machines and or with tools seen or implied in this video. Due to factors beyond the control of Garage Gear, no information contained in this video shall create any expressed or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Any injury, damage, or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or from the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not Garage Gear.
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HERE IS A LINK TO THE DRAG FLAPS ON AMAZON! John Deere Original Equipment Shield #M112900 (you will need 2 of these)
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The drag flap on 90's Craftsman mowers should be the design icon for all mowers. They work well and last forever.
Thanks for sharing
nice vid..
What I did...I had a old tractor trailer mud flap.
measured, cut it...sheet metal screws to the back of the mower.....its about 1---1.5 off the ground....keeps me debris free and stripes very well. cheap.
forget 200 roller kits...
you can find old mud flap around loading docks when they get ripped off trucks backing up and hitting a curb.
free
free
free
keep $ in your pocket for your family.
Thanks for sharing this Harry! I like the idea!
JB, I had this happen Tony Honda HRX217 about a month ago. I went to my dealer and purchased a new flap and it came with a new rod and snap washer to hold it on. I installed the new flap only to fight trying to install the snap cap one one end. I finally went to my local Ace and purchased the same ready rod(threaded rod) and lock nuts you did. I cut it to length and it’s a lot stronger then what Honda gave me with kit. It was funny because we did the exact same thing. I enjoy watching your videos and it’s not the first time we have done similar things and used the same things. My adult son keeps telling me to start my own UA-cam channel. Keep up the great videos JB!
Mark Haas great minds do think alike right?!!! Pretty crazy that we’ve done similar projects using similar items. My wife told me years ago that I should start a channel on UA-cam. But of course I never listened lol. Then about a year ago I decided to give it a shot. Made about 60 videos so far. Some were heros and some were zeros but here I am talking to awesome people like yourself! Don’t be afraid to start a channel. Thanks for watching!
I lucked into a different solution with my 22" Toro Recycler. I had bought the new trailing flap already and saw that the attaching edge could accept a long rod of some sort. I was looking for something like that in my garage and noticed I had a Harbor Freight super long phillips screwdriver I had. I sprayed silicone spray lubricant on everything, had the flap already in the mower with a wheel off, then shoved the screwdriver through and cut off the excess. Perfect! Those flaps without reinforcement love to pop out and immediately go under the lower to their "death"
Thanks for sharing Todd!
I have 65 hours on mine and the drag flap has no torn spots so far. The only thing done to this mower was an adjustment to the cable to the blade engagement. An easy fix. The drag flap is pretty cheap so I will keep this idea in the back of my mind. Thanks
This is definitely an odd part on the time master. I clean under my deck weekly do I could see the progression of the tears on the last one lol. Thanks for watching Dean!
I've got 3 Timemasters that i use commercially. I've had great luck in leaving the screws out of the ends of the flap. That way when it bends, instead of tearing, it just pops out. Turn on its side and pop it back in, good to go!
Thanks for sharing
put the nut on then cut, then thread the nut off and it will remove the burrs and re-thread the fresh hacksawed metal.
Thanks for the tip Anthony! Thanks for checking out my channel!
Sharing with the community: I am trying the cheap way first. I’m optimistic it should help. I just got a brand new timemaster. I took the flap off, washed it in the sink with dish soap and last it dry. And applied black flex tape (the rubberized tape you see on tv over the top of it). I measured, cut to length then peeled backing and laid it flat on table sticky side up and put the top of the flap in the center and rubbed it in well on both sides. It feels much more solid. The tape was 4” wide by 5’ at Home Depot.
Thanks for sharing this UA-cam D! Let us know how it works out!
Had a tear about 7" on the left side after this season. I cleaned off the grass and used flex tape to repair it. Bought another one in case the tape fails but after 3 mowings it's still good.
Not a bad idea K! Please keep me posted on how it holds up for you! You caught my interest with that! Thanks for watching!
Great video Jared!! My favorite part was the very subtle humor...you know where!!
Dave Sage haha lol yeah 🤣. After I film and begin editing I catch myself saying the oddest things lol.
Garage Gear 😂😂😂
Nice work!
I reckon the drag flap gets cut on the sharp edge of the transmission retaining bracket.
That sort of gold thing you can see under there.
This seems quite a way up underneath but if you drop a wheel down a deep border edge or have very clumpy grass you are riding over, the drag flap will hit it with full mower weight on it!
Design oversight / design fault.
If you are super gentle, never drop a wheel, don't have clumps and bumps etc, it will last and last - as some report.
Mine has a wear mark where it's been hitting. A few more times and once cut through, backing up and forward of the mower starts to tear it. Torn enough and the blades get at it and it's trashed, like yours and others!
My solution is to glue a strip of tough PVC pipe (slit down the length) along that sharp edge.
I rounded the edge a bit too, with a file.
Now the flap will hit the PVC and be cushioned rather than cut. I used Urethane expanding glue - sticks anything to anything.
I've also glued a strengthening /rubbing strip on that area of the drag flap.
Time will tell.
Let me know how this holds up for you! Sounds like a really good plan of attack! The fact that we have to go these lengths for a single part is still mind boggling to me. It could easily be better made. Thanks for watching another Steve!
I have a 2018 and just the other day I was doing a scalp(first time) with the mower set to F 1.75 and as soon as I pulled backwards it ate the flap..lol I had purchased a flap back in 2020 after seeing your first video and I have some flex tape. Ill put a layer on it and install it. But i am fairly certain it has a lot to do with when your mowing at E 2.25 or lower. Darn Engineers.... They can tell you the square root of a jar of pickles but struggle getting the lid off...
Hahahahhaa struggle getting the lid off lol! Those flaps are a bad design! Definitely needs to be made of rubber! Thanks for sharing your experience Gerald! 👍
I just ordered a used flap off of a JX-25. I think they will be about the same as the other one you mentioned. This was a great idea. Thanks for the video!
You got it Bryan! Glad you found this video helpful! This part is definitely a weak link on the time master! Thanks for watching!
I took 2 lawn sweeper “Brushes” and mounted them to back of mower deck and made a striping drag mat ..
it’s like the long strips in a auto car wash. Acts as a protection mat but the bristles really comb and groom the grass
$30 bucks for lawn sweeper brushes on Amazon ..
Good thinking! Thanks for sharing BMA!
Do you have an amazon link to the parts you used?
I've had my Timemaster for 7 years, mow 1/3 acre at least once if not twice a week for 6 months and my flap is still fully intact.
Thanks for sharing
After 6 hours my drag flap came off and got chopped up into several pieces and stalling the engine while doing so. Pure junk!! Thanks for your videos!!
Hey K! Every chain has a weak link and this is it in the timemaster. It’s a poor design. This thing has been out for years and they still haven’t replaced it with a better one. Thanks for watching!
Genius brother. Love your videos and subtle humor.
Thanks Rob!! I always wonder if anyone catching my jokes out there lol! Thanks for being a cool fan! 👍
@leonardo migot thanks for sharing
no way ! i had the same issue after only a few hours . toro sent me a free one though. ... Honestly id love to see a grass flap option for this. sick of having to stop when i go by flower beds
Those things just don’t last. It’s the weak link in that mower. I know what you mean about flower bed/ grass flap issue. I’ve seen someone use a bungee cord to open and closet theirs as they go by flower beds. Seemed to work well. Just hooks up by the handle bar. Thanks for watching!
Very nice fix. Should have come this way from the factory.
Thanks bud! Stay tuned for a third video on this coming soon.
Kinda random here... but have you ever THOUGHT about going with battery OPE? Green works, ryobi, Ego? Just curious on your thoughts on the matter.
Flint Layfield I like the echo battery powered equipment in particular. Issue for me is that I have 10,000 square feet of property and I would be burning through batteries like crazy. Their technology has come a long way. If you own a 5,000 square foot property or less I think they are awesome. Big money saver over time. I do think the battery operated leaf blowers are terrible tho. No power what so ever. If you have a lot of leafs like me, forget about it. You’ll be there forever. Super weak. Battery operated trimmers work great.
I have to replace mine. My local toro dealer sells scag as well and I’m wondering if the trailing shield for an FC30 could made to fit the timemaster. Then I started thinking, I bet the commercial turfmaster trailing shield would fit with no modification. It’s a different part number and a bit more expensive which makes me think it might be more durable or made all of rubber. I’ll see if I can find out for sure. Commercial toro is sold by a different dealer I have no experience with here. Otherwise a piece of stall mat and threaded rod from tractor supply is the direction I’m headed.
Awesome Tom! Let me know how it works out for you!
@@GarageGear I ended up grabbing a piece of scrap conveyor belt material from work, folding it over, using machine screws, washers, and nylock’s to fasten it, then used 3/8” all thread to hold it to the machine. Seems to work ok so far. I think it’ll hold up a lot better.
@@tomdorazio681 awesome my friend that should be pretty durable!!
@@GarageGear that’s what I’m hoping for! I had a feeling 3/8” all thread would fit after seeing your video, 7/16” might even fit honestly but 3/8” is plenty thick enough. I don’t think the conveyor material will ever wear out. It’s rubber over woven nylon, about 1/8” thick. Being folded over with machine screws and lock nuts holding it together, it should be ok. Provided the head of a screw doesn’t pull through but I don’t see that happening, at least anytime soon it’ll certainly last longer than the stock one which has about 4 mows of my 1.3 acre yard under its belt.
Hey Tom, the commercial part is a good idea! I've sourced one locally through my dealer. I'm going to pick it up this afternoon and will update after I get a chance to attempt the install. Thank you for sharing this thought, I wouldn't have thought of it on my own!
Great video. I have had the same problem. If you still have any of those John Deere shields I would be interested in getting mine replaced
Hey Etien, I am out of the flaps at the moment but I did provide an Amazon link in the description! Thanks for checking out my channel! 👍
Wonder if I take mine off my mower while it's new and just cut it in two
Some have mentioned doing that to prevent it from getting shredded. Thanks for checking out my channel Troy!
I, can you tell me why we need a drag flap on the mower ? I've got same problem with mine a i remove it ! thank's.
It prevents debris from flying out the back at your feet! Thanks for watching
Awesome
ROCK ON CHRIS! Thanks for watching
did you notice a better quality of striping? (without using the striper)
Absolutely! Definitely better stripes! Thanks for watching!
Got a couple left?? My 3rd replacement just ripped off
I got two left. Shoot me an email at Garagegearjb@gmail.com. Thanks for watching!
Are you still selling the John deer flap
Hey John I linked them in the description below! Thanks for watching
Hi do you have anymore of the John deer flaps for sale?
Hey Sean I’m out on my end but I linked the same ones on Amazon in the description. You’ll need two of them. Thanks for watching! 👍
At the TimeMaster's price point, there are compromises in quality. Still, there is no excuse for the flap's cheap construction.
Makes you wonder what the true cost difference is between a piece of rubber and a piece of plastic. Thanks for watching!
That’s dope
6'0 BHM thanks for watching bud!
Alittle tip, put the nut on before you saw off the end and use the nut to reseed the thread taking it off.
Thanks for the tip my friend! 👍
@@GarageGear It's really weird. My Original black matte toro super recycler not the cheap versions they have now came with a cheap plastic grass flap which did the same thing as your time master and I called toro to complain that as much money as I spent on this mower I was upset on how cheap they made that flap including telling them I've never had a mower flap wear out so quickly. They sent me a new replacement flap and this one is actually thick rubber 😳 This goes to show they do have those flaps in rubber and again I can prove it. I contacted toro again because I have a timemaster 30 inch in layaway which will be out next month, but told them that I'm purchasing this mower and I believe is safety which it's ridiculous that they're putting cheap plastic flaps on an expensive powerful mower like the timemaster. The supervisor apologized and is sending me a rubber flap for that model. This goes to show they do make and have the better flaps. I suggest everyone that owns this model make the same argument because one thing toro cannot do is fail safety standards which this falls under a safety issue.
@@UA-camISRANBYRETARDS very helpful to know! Thanks again for sharing this! Looks like it’s worth a call to toro!
How much for the flap mine broke off
I have them linked in the description copper! Thanks for watching
This happened to me as well. I noticed after lowering my deck to "E" and pulling backwards on the mower. This is a safety hazard! Why would you design anything that enters the blade area. Toro should offer a free replacement that solves this problem. Toro, just wait until someone get's seriously injured by this faulty design and you get sured!
Hey Greg! You’re right! This is clearly a bad design and Toro should be covering the cost. I know mine broke off at C or D. I have a few more timemaster videos on UA-cam! Be sure to check them out! Thanks for checking out my channel! 👍
@@GarageGear FOLLOW UP: I contacted Toro about this and they are sending me a free replacement for my mower. They also suggested 1) Do not reverse the mower 2) if you have to reverse the mower to disengage the mower blades and reverse slowly so the blades have time to stop and the shield isn't thrown into the blades. I still argue that this is POOR design. I am still deciding whether or not to keep this mower.
@@gregrieck so you’re not supposed to back up the mower??? I know I pull back on mine a lot. You have to in a lot of cases. It’s unavoidable. Typical Toro! 🤦♂️ it makes you wonder sometimes if going back to a 21” is worth it lol.
@@GarageGear is safe to pull back with the diy shield I don’t want to harm my blades or mower
@@Alonelycheezit absolutely! Totally safe! I’ve done it thousands of times with no issues. I don’t know how toro can claim you shouldn’t back up this giant mower. They need to design their product better.
My 30” toro did that in the first week how much our your flaps ( John Deere
I have linked down below in the description! Thanks for watching what do you think!👍
I’m purchasing this lawn mower next week.How long have you had this time master ?
This will be my third season with it! Thanks for watching!!
@@GarageGear my email is snoop449476@att.net .I would like to buy the flap
@@carlroberts2297 I sent you an email Carl!
What does the drag flap actually do
Mainly it’s there to prevent debris from flying out the back at you. It also helps lay down a stripe pattern! Thanks for checking out my channel Mitchell.👍
@@GarageGear as a kid I remember my mom getting hit in the toe by debris while mowing the lawn. She literally cried from the pain. Drag flaps are a critical safety device on lawn mowers.
@@daltonbreaux thanks for sharing dalton! I actually had a similar circumstance happen to me. I was turning the mower and as I was finishing the turn a rock shot out and got my sisters car. Put a small dent in the door. She wasn’t very happy. Imagine what would have happened to me if I would have been right behind the mower in that rock’s path?
Have you had any problems with your timemaster since you had it?
Hey Tye, I try my best to take care of my lawn equipment. Other than a few belt adjustments no major issues to report with the timemaster. Do you own one? Have you had any issues with it?
@@GarageGear I am thinking about getting one and was wondering if there were any major issues with them or if they were worth the money
@@kx5008 get one while they are in stock they sell out fast
did it work
Works great no issues! You can get a peek at it in my aeration video. It actually stripes the lawn very well too!
@@GarageGear do you have any for.sale
@@candler98 sold out at the moment. Ill keep you posted!
Hey Bud, is this mod still working out for you?
About 30 hours on it and still going strong! Looks the same as when I put it on. Working out great! Thanks for watching Robert!
Do you still have extra flaps?
I currently only have one but you can find another on eBay for cheap! Send me an email if you’re interested!
What’s a drag flap do ?
It prevents anything from flying out the back of the mower. It also helps stripe the lawn to a small degree. Thanks for checking out my channel Sol!
those popups are annoying
Thanks for watching!
Does it still stripe the grass like the one piece?
Are you referring to the checkmate striper?
@@GarageGear No, the original flap gives me pretty good stripes on my zoyisa. Does the 2-piece leave stripes?
@@rebfan9200 oh ok sorry I was confused for moment there. The two flap setup does leave good stripes. Works the same as the original. Thanks for watching Reb Fan!👍
Toro does not make any good stuff any more.Used to be all toro but now they own everything ,i question before i buy who makes it!
Yeah who knows anymore. Minus the gas tank being too small the rest of the mower seems to be pretty good. Thanks for watching!
I’ve owned and run this mower for 11 years. The concept is fantastic. It does save time. The quality is not what I expected from toro. Leaking oil, burning oil, spindle issues, motor Mount issues, pulley issues. I ended up swapping the motor for a kohler, rebuilt spindles and pulleys, belts so we will see. Oh and this flap. Gotta fix this terrible flap
What about those of us who don't have John Deere parts?
I put part links in the description for you Dale! Thanks for checking out my channel! 👍
The metal rod you linked is 36 inches bruh…
Yeah you have to cut it down like I did in the video bruh…
@@GarageGear shit. i don't know how i skipped that part of the video. thanks!
I don't think mine lasted 25 hours.
They don’t last long that’s for sure. I’ll have another video coming out about this soon. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching Wegder!
Just use chains
How do you mean exactly Xcelcier?
@@GarageGear hang chains like a curtain. Hook 4 or 5 chain links on the rod. It would act as the deflector and a striper
@@l3MTA3l that’s not a bad idea! Ever seen it done before?
@@GarageGear I've seen it used on field mowers but not on residential walk behind but I don't see why we can't.