SOME EXTRA ANNOTATIONS: >At 7:13 I apparently credited the video to Penance herself. Not sure how I managed that. It's actually MineMoon's. >I didn't mention that Wis'Adel can also be hit by blocked enemies. But since she's a ranged operator this won't matter in the vast majority of stages in the wider game. >Upon further consideration, I'd probably put Shu in the honorable mentions too. >Eyja Alter deserves to be in the honorable mentions as well, since Nightingale made it.
Was just about to comment about Shu and Eyjalter but seems like there's no need to do it now. I kinda think that Typhon should also be honorable mentioned, like she's in the same spot as Mlynar and Degen in terms of damage but instead of utility (short stuns are not really that much of an utility) she offers "afk" skill and greater range for situations where those two would die after the first contact
If anyone wants to know what Supah said in the intro: "Wow, you actually went through the trouble of reversing that. Unfortunately, I didn't say anything funny. This time, the intro joke's on you."
My wife was fair and always has been. She has big damage and that's it, high dp cost, short range, slow attack, 55 sec for skill3 and 0 block by default (by that I mean if not range op can deploy on low ground). Half or this list solved one or more her problem(s). In short she suffers the same as blast caster.
@@reversal3628 I mean...not sure I'd call what ch'en alter has "short range" given how she hits all of those tiles, and even more on s3, but I can agree that it might feel like a short range due to the high-tile restriction for deployment and the low aspd.
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH global +50% max hp boost onskill is insane actually, it's the one reliable way people tank d15 enemies or just survive the is4 ed3 boss, let's not forget it
Eyjaberry just deletes all damage altogether honestly, even on stages that don't have elemental damage, she still worth so much when damage sources just overwhelms all operators on the stage that were separated too far from each other. Before I could raise my Nightingale, I only borrowed EyjaBerry to get myself through Talulah's fire meteor rain and it works like wow.
Tbh bagpipe is still a huge powerspike for ines, ines s2 being instant is an actual game changer, flagpipe still easily slots in that top 10. i would argue moreso than ling or mudmud/penance.
@@pougetguillaume4632 it really isn't worth bringing bagpipe along just for her talent unlike flagbearers if i'm being real with you, with flagbearers you have to plop down someone functional asap
@@lordofbanshees bagpipe is functional though? She has 2.5 times the defense of ines with S3 and hits at least twice as hard as well even factoring in faster aspd. You're acting as if bagpipe isn't ridiculously jacked on her own. It's like saying you're not bringing silverash for his talent alone, like bro true silverslash hasn't been deleted from the game.
@@pougetguillaume4632 That's the point. The flagbearer needs bagpipe or someone else deployed asap so the early mobs aren't leaked. Ines shits DP AND fills the role of early dog rush laneholding in one unit. Also Ines doesn't need defense most of the time, she has range and a long bind that ends up preventing most chip damage altogether because she cycles fast enough to kill anything threatening on time. Ines + Bagpipe is just unnecessary. Ines doesn't need someone else to handle a dog rush for her. She can more than handle 5 seconds in all but the absolute most scuffed of clears.
@@lordofbanshees Eh...For most maps, I use all three of them...By the time you would be gearing up I'm already just watching with the whole map set up... Reality is that often enough, you can just add Flagpipe because the space in squad she'd take wouldn't be useful anyway. This is a bit less of a case since Shu, but hey. There are times where it's also important for Ines to be able to use her second skill instantly. Even if not for the early stage of the map, then for later. Because she does have utilities (and damage) that makes her a competent support DPS in most maps. There are also maps where Ines is terrible start. Why?! Because Myrtle guarantees her full DP, Ines does not. Early stages of a map actually make her unable to provide a lot of DP. The enemies are too scarce and die too fast, so she may be able to generate 8 DP. For Bagpipe and Myrtle that doesn't matter. Flagbearers don't care about enemies, and Bagpipe doesn't have a timed skill plus returns all DP on retreat. In many maps, you can build up your DP faster with them than with Ines. Ines however is going to be able to consistently provide you with DP on maps with tough mobs on idle from the beginning or mid-stage, where there's plenty of targets to keep whacking on. So yes. Ines does not replace 'flagpipe'. And she does benefit from Bagpipe, some times more than others (it's still a few seconds earlier that you get the DP output). There's even space for a threesome here. Ines simply has more utility than just DP generation, even beyond damage (Bagpipe is a damage monster, especially for her cost and class) which is why she simply is a more 'valuable' slot if you are tight on them in your squad.
Skadi alter (or ishar mla) should be in honorable mention because you kept on telling how she made tanky operators invincible throughout the first half of the video
Ines went from being seen as 'mediocre' by SUPAH to jumping into the 2nd place in his tier list. It's only a matter of time before Vigil shows up on the list
I think shu deserves to be on the list, she has the single most unique and most powerful form of crowdcontroll in the game while being both a healer and a tank
Don't forget her support. Her third skill massively increases damage output by increasing attack speed, and her talent with her three siblings boosts attack and SP regeneration significantly. All to the misery of the enemy.
ngl shes so braindead sometimes, i used to bring 2 medics everywhere. Now its just underleveled lumen and shu. If you cant fit the ops in her s1 then use s3, its stupid
Shu is really good, my favorite low ground healer in fact, but walking past the tank into the goal frequently means the tank is dead or about to die and she just doesn't have nearly the raw durability of Hoshiguma or Saria. You can totally play with her S3 by putting her off to the side so enemies can walk right past and get reset, because its funny to watch, but most of the time its meme tactics.
@@whitemagus2000 While it's true that Saria has more raw stats, and she has the damage reduction module which gives her the same percentage reduction as Shu's sanctuary (with the module), you clearly don't have Shu or don't know how to use her if you think she lacks survivability or that her third skill is just a meme. She vastly outperforms Saria in survivability on third skill in every case other than being one-hit. She heals herself by roughly 1100 per second if I calculated it properly (it's 926 without the module), and that's without her talents triggers. Far higher than the 35% of Saria's attack per second. Outside of the third skill, she's still tanky enough to stay alive against most enemies. Against nearly all enemies when she's within the range of a healer (and those enemies that would kill her, would kill Saria too). So yeah. I don't see your argument that she's not survivable enough as a tank.
Honestly WildHunt should be in the honorable mentions, he deals a lot of damage on his skill 3, is very fast, can recover from stagger, his debuff on s2 is actually very helpful and finally his clashes both with and without a sinking team are actually great
Nah your forgetting the potential. Sunshower Heathcliff, he has good skills (Just dont clash with any of them). Applies sinking on self? Which makes him still win clashes and has 5 rupture potency and tremor burst on tails hit on his s2. That is a bargain if I have saw.
I have a friend circle who also play Arknights and I'm having a difficult time trying to explain to them why Ines is such a powerful operator, like their main excuse was "she doesn't do anything other than generate DP quick and I have Myrtle" which kinda shows how subtle her strength is and not just anybody will see what she brings because she's not a braindead delete button. She's probably among my most used operators ever since I got her and she's my third most liked operators in the entire game just after Reed alter and Reed. She's awesome and her skin is the coolest. Ines is PEAK
When I got Ines I only used it to make "Hoederer, Ines and W" squad. It took me a good week to understand why Ines is strong in and how to use her. She is incredibly versatile, generates DP like never before... I use her in all end game stage content.
I think I agree so much with this list :D If anything, since you put Nightingale here (in the Honourable Mentions).... I think Eyjafjalla the Hvìt Aska should be here too. She literally erases the concept of Elemental Damage for our operators in the game, much like Nightingale is with Arts Damage :)
I think I'd pick Ela for honourable mentions since she feels very versatile. Typhon and Ray are probably up there too, but do lose out to this list. Good list, thanks Supah!
The fact that in a few days we will have half of this list avaibale in banners at the same time scares me for the financial stability of all of our families
I genuinely love how the best way to describe Logos's kit is "lore accurate" As much as I love Sarkaz women (how much? about as much as SUPAH loves Gummy) I have to be honest- *he* is the Operator I'm truly hoping to get tomorrow
I want to put Goldenglow in honorable mentions for dealing with enemies that are hiding in undeployable and unreachable tiles Oh and for hitting objectives globally in maps that have them
1 thing to be said about Wisadel also... Her shadows have a fuckton of HP, defense to match 6 star defenses AND 50 YES 50 RES THEY JUST HALVE ARTS DMG ENTIRELY HELL THEY BASICALLY HALVE DAMAGE TO BE HONEST AND YOU CAN REFRESH 2 OF THEM hell sometimes you can trigger skill 3 just to refresh summons it is that dumb of an operator... Watch me pot 6 her 😂
Ngl I expected Eyjaberry in the top 3, she literally deleted elemental damage from the game, the only thing keeping bosses somewhat hard, and could also heal mudrock and other enmities
Funny thing about ines bagpipe and myrtle, as all arknights players know myrtle best combo is having bagpipe at pot5 so the former can pop instantly the skill, however ines is even better because she doesn't need bagpipe at pot5
Not trying to sound like I'm mean or racist, but i can't get over this guy's accent, I've been laughing for 5 solid minutes 😭😭 (you just got a new subscriber my guy)
I 1000% agree with 0:46 I'm making the same video and it was way harder than choosing the top 5 stars, just like you said outside of the top 3 or the top 5 the balance between the operators starts to narrow making it really hard to rank them without someone writing 5 paragraphed comment on why you shouldn't exist anymore
Not only, Does this guy deserve a sub, not only his funny by simply sharing the truth, not only the speed up of his spech was funny, not only the music boosted the thought process making Wis adel busted to unnecessary level, not only the list is on point that it feels typhone not being in this list is completely understandable, not only does he admit he won't read our comments but end up doing so, he even tells you to build gummy Welp thats all to make him earn a sub from me XD.
Ines can be argued to be better than Wisadel if you value DP gen and Invis reveal highly enough, since technically you'll almost always need Vanguards for hard content and we've been getting a ton of Invis enemies recently Also Shu should be here, probably around 5th
To be honest good video Supah, the worst I can nitpick is that I would put Surtr, Mudrock/Penance and Arturia out for Bagpipe, Shu and Nightingale in which were in honorable mentions lol- Supah cooked again I guess
Agreed, but a dozen other operators deserve HM before Mountain, like he's a cheap solution to easy lanes and thats it, i stopped using him the second i raised Mumu
I would argue Zuo Le is better than mountain, yes mountain is easily accesdible and is enabled early, but zuo le with s3m3 is one of the best solo laners in the game. There are a lot of cases where zuo le can hold himself alone that would overwhelm mountain.
"yato alter and texas alter are the most braindead ops" *flashbacks to that tier list video which rates ops based on braindeadness, with yato alter, texas alter, and ling at the bottom because they require too much interaction with the game with all the deploys and retreas and redeploys
To be clear, deepcolor is a really good summoner. 3 dp expendable units can be useful, and in IS you don't have many operators to even use at the start (while her summons outperform 3 stars and a good amount of 4 stars).
Thought about a top 10 too very recently and came up with (up to Wis’adel). 1. Wis’adel 2. Texas the Omertosa / Yato X 3. Ling 4. Degenbrecher 5. Ines 6. Shu 7. Logos 8. Mlynar 9. Eyjafjalla The Hvit Aska 10. Bagpipe / Myrtle (high bias tbf) Though hearing the Ines praise, she could be higher upon review. Along with the investment virtuosa is proving to be.
Ling should be lower to 7 or 8 bcs of the introduction of elemental damage, DP lock(or DP steal), DoT enemies. There is alot of stages she can't solo without a strong DPs operators who can take care of her biggest threats.
19:58 brought back memories of me trying to fight Emperor’s Blade using invisibility and camouflage. For some God forsaken reason, camouflage DOES NOT make operators immune to being hit by splash damage, but invisibility does so my operators that were camouflaged by Heavy Rain’s skill 2 got farted on and died but Fire Watch with skill 1 didn’t
I agree with this list but I will mention 10 operators I think also deserve to be called the best. 10: Silence Alter, she provides damage reduction and Immortality to other operators. 9: Thorns & Blue Poison, they are different operators but they have a few things that are common between them that put them here. 8: Fiametta not just for her ability to nuke but also because her S3 is one of the best Aoe abilities in the game. 7: Spectre Alter, almost immortal, can deal both physical and arts damage and is an Abyssal hunter. 6: Skalter and Civ Light Eterna, Bards are just amazing supports. 5: Shu, Saria, Blemeshine and Hoshiguma or as I call them the 3 blocks you use when you don't have Mudrock or Penance. 4: Golden Glow, despite knowing what Lappland Alter could do, I still see Golden Glow as better for a variety of reasons. 3: Chongyue, Mountain: They are both low dp cost lane holders. 2: Siege Alter, because True Damage and Saibaaaaa. 1: Akafuyu, yes this is my bias, she is a Crab thus superior to you mortals. Plus she literally has carried me against every boss in this game except Minimalist. I consider her better than Hellagur even if sadly her module was so dissapointing.
you remind me of the science dude kyle by how you say the names of your supporters at the end and i love this. I may not support your views but I like the content.
Typhon is very good besieger with two BIG... powers. Her damage with def ignore and pseudo global S3, which tracks the target even when they are immune. Plus Muelsyse can be in honorable mentions as well. You get both a vanguard and some stat stick unit of your choise at the price of one. Plus said stat stick can multiply itself if in range form. Ela fits too. Very strong "marksman sniper" with mini-Suzuran on demand almost everywhere on the map.
It feels like CN has been adding more mechanics that can hit Wis'adel through her camouflage as a *slight* balancing factor...but really all it does is make you have to actually think slightly about where you place her instead of just dumping her into the middle of everything with her unreasonably tanky summons.
Some angry random comment about Degenbrecher being number 6 😡💢 Jk. Good work Supah. Supah making 2 positive videos about Arknights in a row was not on my bingo card for 2024. Changed Supah era.
love watching your videos man!! thank you for your hard work ❤ and since i realised i kinda sound like a less malicious bot i rly am not i just wanna show my appreciation and gratitude lol. anyway, thank you o7
Yato and Texas alter are pretty dumb. They are a big reason as to how I can brute force event stages without fully understanding the mechanics because big honking damage.
those 2 and along with degen and typhon help you completely ignore game mechanics . Like, In the current babel events stage, i've already cleared normal 10 stages and even the ex challenge mode stages but on the last extra bb-ss stages I found out those chains is mechanics for this event .
Wis'adel makes me remember the episode of Transformers Armada called "jungle" where Starscream menaged to find an absurd power up called the "Annihilation Cannon" and the episode ends with him, laughing maniacally, after blasted away everything, screaming "OH MY ...IT'S SO EASY!" while the theme song plays hard as what is in your pants on the background
Honestly, I did not expect the only two limited fast redeploys to be top 3, but now that you mention it... Kirito has always been in my squad for almost every freaking hard stage I do, and the only times I really don't bring her, is when I wanna trust farm or have fun with other ops... But then again makes me kinda sad not seeing Phantom being included, guy got two of himself man that should account for something :[
My personal honorable mention has to be Goldenglow. Idk if Logos will replace her but for years she has been a staple in my teams. She has global range and has pretty good damage. She especially usefull for those tanky enemies that like to stand on spawn or walk around first since she can either kill them before meeting a ground operator or soften them up
For mudrock and penance it also depends very heavily on the enemies faced, Mudrock deals with slow hard hitting guys way better than penance because her shields block dmg completely and also has her 3rd skill for more stalling. Penance on the other hand effectively only gets a bunch of hp. If a cc buffed enemy hits hard enough, they might just end up going straight through penance‘d shield. So it‘s circumstancial, tho I agree both should be on the same spot.
Number 11. Lin, because she is literally Lin-vincible. Also, you can spam her S3, she has the biggest caster range in the game, stuns/slows enemies, and also, she's invincible.
I'm biased, so mountain should at least be in honorable mentions Also Shu, except damage, but also buff other's damage so she technically damage, very damage
I think Hoederer deserves a honourable mention since he’s the one who scouted Ines and W, if it wasn’t for him they’d probably not be very alive (especially Ines) and we would not have those 2 powerhouses :D Joking aside, Wis’adel stunning is kind of ridiculous, but I unironically think it’s the gimmick that weakly links her to Hoederer (and a nod to her skills as W ofc). Hoederer does more damage against stunned or bound enemies, which also combo’s him great with Ines. So while Hoederer doesn’t exactly offer some special gimmick to Ines or W/Wis, except maybe sanctuary for Ines if he stands in front of her, both Ines and W have skills that help him. If Wis’adel didn’t have a stun ability she would lose that link. Now, will the stun actually help Hoederer? I doubt it, since enemies need to be alive for him to do something… but, y’know, if he ever gets a hit in he will do slightly more damage… I imagine using W over Wis is more appropriate if you want to use the merc x family, since she doesn’t delete everything on the map (but hey, what would I know, I don’t have her… yet) And before you ask. Yes, I simp for Hoederer and Ines. Yes, I use them together whenever I can (and want them to get married already). No, Hoederer isn’t a bad unit, he just isn’t ridiculously powerful (like his wife). Yes, I saved 300+ pulls so I can get their disaster of a overpowered daughter and put them next to her on the field so they can look and wonder where it all went wrong.
I would add GG into the honorable mentions. Her global range skill just change how I play this game and how many challenges gets way easier thanks to this. Her afk skill is very good too. Maybe not as op as logos but pink catto won manu stages for me :')
I do try to use off-meta ops like Gavialter or Dusk once in a while but I can agree with most of this list, but I would add Eyja alter like others said because she completely removed the challenge of ch 12 and the seaborn stages.
Hello Supah, I've been a fan for a very long time. My parents often put your videos while I was stuck in the hospital, my legs unmoving. I' just like you to know that your videos made me able to stand up for the first time in years today, so I could turn the tv off and not have to see your positive videos. Do better. We want hate.
I probably would've put typhoon as a replacement for murdrock or penance. She is incredibly versatile with both s2 and s3 with insane amounts of single target dmg. Its a operator that we can take to every type of stage no matter the niche as long as single target dmg is needed. Penance and murdrock altough just as good, are very niche and usually only used for specific stages. By virture of versatility, typhoon should be be in number 10 and ling should be number 9 with the two defenders as honourable mentions instead. Otherwise this list pretty good, just remember to put ejya alt next to nightninggale
Bro went on a rant about 'W'alter. I can relate, though. I got Thorn on my tutorial pull, so yeah. And Ines on my second ten pull on her most recent banner. SUPAH, Wiš'adel is the literal reason why W has so many simps (myself included).
Chen alter not making to the honorable mentions when sutr is still on this list feels really weird, she's still does so much that ir feels disengenuous, while yes her weakness with her high sp cost and ""low range"" compared to other monsters in this list it still is very impactful.
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SOME EXTRA ANNOTATIONS:
>At 7:13 I apparently credited the video to Penance herself. Not sure how I managed that. It's actually MineMoon's.
>I didn't mention that Wis'Adel can also be hit by blocked enemies. But since she's a ranged operator this won't matter in the vast majority of stages in the wider game.
>Upon further consideration, I'd probably put Shu in the honorable mentions too.
>Eyja Alter deserves to be in the honorable mentions as well, since Nightingale made it.
Penance discovered the woes of content creation
Da fuq is typhon at?
PenanceGaming let's goo
Was just about to comment about Shu and Eyjalter but seems like there's no need to do it now. I kinda think that Typhon should also be honorable mentioned, like she's in the same spot as Mlynar and Degen in terms of damage but instead of utility (short stuns are not really that much of an utility) she offers "afk" skill and greater range for situations where those two would die after the first contact
Chen alter
If anyone wants to know what Supah said in the intro:
"Wow, you actually went through the trouble of reversing that. Unfortunately, I didn't say anything funny. This time, the intro joke's on you."
thank you
could you maybe then translate every single text in the minecraft enchantment table 🥺
We live in a world where Ch'en the Halleluiah is no longer broken enough to even be an honourable mention, what happened to this game
Walter happened
My wife was fair and always has been. She has big damage and that's it, high dp cost, short range, slow attack, 55 sec for skill3 and 0 block by default (by that I mean if not range op can deploy on low ground). Half or this list solved one or more her problem(s). In short she suffers the same as blast caster.
@@dragonfable66 walter white happened?
@@reversal3628 I mean...not sure I'd call what ch'en alter has "short range" given how she hits all of those tiles, and even more on s3, but I can agree that it might feel like a short range due to the high-tile restriction for deployment and the low aspd.
she’s really vulnerable and not as damaging as newer ops anymore unfortunately
Bro was held hostage by Ines glazers to rectify his mistakes 2yrs ago 💀
if Nightingsla made it into the honorable mentions for deleting Arts damage, Eyjaberry should too for deleting elemental damage on global range
True actually
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH global +50% max hp boost onskill is insane actually, it's the one reliable way people tank d15 enemies or just survive the is4 ed3 boss, let's not forget it
Eyjaberry just deletes all damage altogether honestly, even on stages that don't have elemental damage, she still worth so much when damage sources just overwhelms all operators on the stage that were separated too far from each other.
Before I could raise my Nightingale, I only borrowed EyjaBerry to get myself through Talulah's fire meteor rain and it works like wow.
I'd even argue Eyjaberry being in the actual top 10. She's probably overall more useful nowadays than let's say someone like Ling or Surtr.
Tbh NG has more use than Eyja on that regard. Arts is much more dangerous
We've reach a point that Chen alt doesn't even on the top 10.
Honestly that's for the better
And it's not even close, I think Skalter, Ela, Reed alter, Eyija2 and even Shu are all better.
@@stafy5699 True. Was waiting for Shu in the list.
I still prefer tonuse my pinecone over chalter
But mudrock, surtr and ling are so we good.
Shoutout to Ines for single-handedly relegating Flag-Pipe to honorable mentions
Tbh bagpipe is still a huge powerspike for ines, ines s2 being instant is an actual game changer, flagpipe still easily slots in that top 10. i would argue moreso than ling or mudmud/penance.
@@pougetguillaume4632 it really isn't worth bringing bagpipe along just for her talent unlike flagbearers if i'm being real with you, with flagbearers you have to plop down someone functional asap
@@lordofbanshees bagpipe is functional though? She has 2.5 times the defense of ines with S3 and hits at least twice as hard as well even factoring in faster aspd.
You're acting as if bagpipe isn't ridiculously jacked on her own. It's like saying you're not bringing silverash for his talent alone, like bro true silverslash hasn't been deleted from the game.
@@pougetguillaume4632 That's the point. The flagbearer needs bagpipe or someone else deployed asap so the early mobs aren't leaked. Ines shits DP AND fills the role of early dog rush laneholding in one unit. Also Ines doesn't need defense most of the time, she has range and a long bind that ends up preventing most chip damage altogether because she cycles fast enough to kill anything threatening on time.
Ines + Bagpipe is just unnecessary. Ines doesn't need someone else to handle a dog rush for her. She can more than handle 5 seconds in all but the absolute most scuffed of clears.
@@lordofbanshees Eh...For most maps, I use all three of them...By the time you would be gearing up I'm already just watching with the whole map set up...
Reality is that often enough, you can just add Flagpipe because the space in squad she'd take wouldn't be useful anyway. This is a bit less of a case since Shu, but hey.
There are times where it's also important for Ines to be able to use her second skill instantly. Even if not for the early stage of the map, then for later. Because she does have utilities (and damage) that makes her a competent support DPS in most maps.
There are also maps where Ines is terrible start. Why?! Because Myrtle guarantees her full DP, Ines does not. Early stages of a map actually make her unable to provide a lot of DP. The enemies are too scarce and die too fast, so she may be able to generate 8 DP. For Bagpipe and Myrtle that doesn't matter. Flagbearers don't care about enemies, and Bagpipe doesn't have a timed skill plus returns all DP on retreat. In many maps, you can build up your DP faster with them than with Ines. Ines however is going to be able to consistently provide you with DP on maps with tough mobs on idle from the beginning or mid-stage, where there's plenty of targets to keep whacking on.
So yes. Ines does not replace 'flagpipe'. And she does benefit from Bagpipe, some times more than others (it's still a few seconds earlier that you get the DP output). There's even space for a threesome here. Ines simply has more utility than just DP generation, even beyond damage (Bagpipe is a damage monster, especially for her cost and class) which is why she simply is a more 'valuable' slot if you are tight on them in your squad.
Texas/Yato alter are basically “oops, I made a mistake, let me correct that real quick”
Fucking control-x button, just select what you want to delete and it's done.
"Hey Texas, do you see that leak about to happen?"
"yeah"
"I don't want to, go solve it"
Skadi alter (or ishar mla) should be in honorable mention because you kept on telling how she made tanky operators invincible throughout the first half of the video
Fair enough
Same reason with Civilight
Supah, I didn't know how to ruin my evening, but thanks to you I did it, thank you very much
The positive videos are merely the calm before the storm, SUPAH is charging his ult by building up the negative energy he has stored within.
Ines went from being seen as 'mediocre' by SUPAH to jumping into the 2nd place in his tier list.
It's only a matter of time before Vigil shows up on the list
Not gonna lie Vigil in a suit makes me feel a certain kinda way
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAHGummy in a suit
Just wait until vigil module let him deal true dmg
And with strange aeons even Death may die.
@@Derin7890he didn't answer you because he is cumming just from the thought of it
For 6 hours straight.
I think shu deserves to be on the list, she has the single most unique and most powerful form of crowdcontroll in the game while being both a healer and a tank
Don't forget her support. Her third skill massively increases damage output by increasing attack speed, and her talent with her three siblings boosts attack and SP regeneration significantly. All to the misery of the enemy.
Shu could easily take Ling's or Surt's spot on the list
ngl shes so braindead sometimes, i used to bring 2 medics everywhere. Now its just underleveled lumen and shu. If you cant fit the ops in her s1 then use s3, its stupid
Shu is really good, my favorite low ground healer in fact, but walking past the tank into the goal frequently means the tank is dead or about to die and she just doesn't have nearly the raw durability of Hoshiguma or Saria. You can totally play with her S3 by putting her off to the side so enemies can walk right past and get reset, because its funny to watch, but most of the time its meme tactics.
@@whitemagus2000 While it's true that Saria has more raw stats, and she has the damage reduction module which gives her the same percentage reduction as Shu's sanctuary (with the module), you clearly don't have Shu or don't know how to use her if you think she lacks survivability or that her third skill is just a meme.
She vastly outperforms Saria in survivability on third skill in every case other than being one-hit. She heals herself by roughly 1100 per second if I calculated it properly (it's 926 without the module), and that's without her talents triggers. Far higher than the 35% of Saria's attack per second.
Outside of the third skill, she's still tanky enough to stay alive against most enemies. Against nearly all enemies when she's within the range of a healer (and those enemies that would kill her, would kill Saria too).
So yeah. I don't see your argument that she's not survivable enough as a tank.
Typhoon with her intercontinental ballistic missile and two big reason to put her in honorable mention
fyi Ines has true invisibility, aoe splashes don't affect her on s2
Honestly WildHunt should be in the honorable mentions, he deals a lot of damage on his skill 3, is very fast, can recover from stagger, his debuff on s2 is actually very helpful and finally his clashes both with and without a sinking team are actually great
this made me giggle, depressed horse man even travelled to kill the Heathcliff in the arknights universe.
Nah your forgetting the potential. Sunshower Heathcliff, he has good skills (Just dont clash with any of them). Applies sinking on self? Which makes him still win clashes and has 5 rupture potency and tremor burst on tails hit on his s2. That is a bargain if I have saw.
Wildhunt only rolls 14 for s2 when he’s not in a sinking team, so his clashes are kinda below average
Arknights companyyy😂
ela would probably be a very good honorable mention candidate, her damage combined with her utility is nuts
while Ash is a sidegrade of Exusiai, Ela is Exu if she did more damage and could do more
@@XephyranthEla is what Exu would have been in Year 5 lol-
@@adamniefael5546 yep, exactly my point, same way how Mlynar is just Silverash and how Degenbrecher is to Irene (sad she got powercrept too fast)
@@Xephyranth Id argue that Kroos Alter is a mix of the two
meh, almost not worth the slot on the squad, Ray and others are better.
I think that Mousse deserves to be in the hornable mentions list because she is the best lane holder in the game (trust me, don't search it)
Mousse is unironically great at stalling hard-hitting enemies, if she don't get one shot.
You aren't fooling anyone. Gummy dyed her hair white, put on some horns and contacts, and picked up a cannon, and you put her in number 1.
I have a friend circle who also play Arknights and I'm having a difficult time trying to explain to them why Ines is such a powerful operator, like their main excuse was "she doesn't do anything other than generate DP quick and I have Myrtle" which kinda shows how subtle her strength is and not just anybody will see what she brings because she's not a braindead delete button.
She's probably among my most used operators ever since I got her and she's my third most liked operators in the entire game just after Reed alter and Reed. She's awesome and her skin is the coolest. Ines is PEAK
When I got Ines I only used it to make "Hoederer, Ines and W" squad.
It took me a good week to understand why Ines is strong in and how to use her. She is incredibly versatile, generates DP like never before...
I use her in all end game stage content.
@fakeuzero i use her in all content, she never leaves my team and never will until HG decides they are adding vanguard ban in CC for some reason lol
Have you tried telling them that Ines just fucking hardcounters the stupid Sarkaz Lancers?
Invisible revealer and stun lock combo with quibai
"okay, just imagine Myrtle but if she also dealt competent damage and CC and she was a pseudo-Gravel"
Your description of Walter made me spit coffee like a broken hydrant. Thank you for the laugh.
NOT ONLY. *intensifies
I think I agree so much with this list :D
If anything, since you put Nightingale here (in the Honourable Mentions).... I think Eyjafjalla the Hvìt Aska should be here too. She literally erases the concept of Elemental Damage for our operators in the game, much like Nightingale is with Arts Damage :)
I think I'd pick Ela for honourable mentions since she feels very versatile. Typhon and Ray are probably up there too, but do lose out to this list. Good list, thanks Supah!
the *acts of carnal union* ended me 😂 utterly peak as usual
10:48 i wouldn't mind being put below Degenbrecher too 🤤🤤🤤
The fact that in a few days we will have half of this list avaibale in banners at the same time scares me for the financial stability of all of our families
Yato/Texas/Ntr alter, my trio boss gangbangers
add surtr to that too
I genuinely love how the best way to describe Logos's kit is "lore accurate"
As much as I love Sarkaz women (how much? about as much as SUPAH loves Gummy) I have to be honest- *he* is the Operator I'm truly hoping to get tomorrow
I want to put Goldenglow in honorable mentions for dealing with enemies that are hiding in undeployable and unreachable tiles
Oh and for hitting objectives globally in maps that have them
I love using her farming module mats 3 sniper and 2 Caster buff is so fast hahaha. Her str goes BRRRR
You forgot the REAL best operator in this game Vigil who does a VIGILLION damage and can tank a VIGILLION damage
1 thing to be said about Wisadel also... Her shadows have a fuckton of HP, defense to match 6 star defenses AND 50 YES 50 RES THEY JUST HALVE ARTS DMG ENTIRELY HELL THEY BASICALLY HALVE DAMAGE TO BE HONEST AND YOU CAN REFRESH 2 OF THEM hell sometimes you can trigger skill 3 just to refresh summons it is that dumb of an operator... Watch me pot 6 her 😂
It's only 50 SP btw lol
Which may sound a lot but for what it does, it is definitely not
That "fuckton" is Saria. The shadows have approximately Saria's HP and defense, sans talent. And yes, that 50 res. Wis Adel is nonsense.
20:37 I need sauce to this gorgeous Gummy art goddamit
Thanks for disqualifying Gummy from the list. I know it took a lot out of you but it would just be unfair if you didn't.
Ngl I expected Eyjaberry in the top 3, she literally deleted elemental damage from the game, the only thing keeping bosses somewhat hard, and could also heal mudrock and other enmities
Funny thing about ines bagpipe and myrtle, as all arknights players know myrtle best combo is having bagpipe at pot5 so the former can pop instantly the skill, however ines is even better because she doesn't need bagpipe at pot5
the real combo is 6 cost myrtle.
Not trying to sound like I'm mean or racist, but i can't get over this guy's accent, I've been laughing for 5 solid minutes 😭😭 (you just got a new subscriber my guy)
saw hall of the mountain king in the song list and leaned forward in my chair
I 1000% agree with 0:46 I'm making the same video and it was way harder than choosing the top 5 stars, just like you said outside of the top 3 or the top 5 the balance between the operators starts to narrow making it really hard to rank them without someone writing 5 paragraphed comment on why you shouldn't exist anymore
"Arturia is future proof"
My brother in Christ in any second HG can make her useless by giving enemies actual elemental def.
Not only, Does this guy deserve a sub, not only his funny by simply sharing the truth, not only the speed up of his spech was funny, not only the music boosted the thought process making Wis adel busted to unnecessary level, not only the list is on point that it feels typhone not being in this list is completely understandable, not only does he admit he won't read our comments but end up doing so, he even tells you to build gummy
Welp thats all to make him earn a sub from me XD.
Best video of arknights i’ve watched so far as a new player😂thanks for the vid supah
Ines can be argued to be better than Wisadel if you value DP gen and Invis reveal highly enough, since technically you'll almost always need Vanguards for hard content and we've been getting a ton of Invis enemies recently
Also Shu should be here, probably around 5th
To be honest good video Supah, the worst I can nitpick is that I would put Surtr, Mudrock/Penance and Arturia out for Bagpipe, Shu and Nightingale in which were in honorable mentions lol-
Supah cooked again I guess
Honorable Mention:
-Shu
-Mountain
-Typhon
-Eyjalter
-Ela
I don't know if i forgot someone
Agreed, but a dozen other operators deserve HM before Mountain, like he's a cheap solution to easy lanes and thats it, i stopped using him the second i raised Mumu
Goldenglow
I would argue Zuo Le is better than mountain, yes mountain is easily accesdible and is enabled early, but zuo le with s3m3 is one of the best solo laners in the game. There are a lot of cases where zuo le can hold himself alone that would overwhelm mountain.
"yato alter and texas alter are the most braindead ops"
*flashbacks to that tier list video which rates ops based on braindeadness, with yato alter, texas alter, and ling at the bottom because they require too much interaction with the game with all the deploys and retreas and redeploys
To be clear, deepcolor is a really good summoner. 3 dp expendable units can be useful, and in IS you don't have many operators to even use at the start (while her summons outperform 3 stars and a good amount of 4 stars).
or you can start with kalsit and win the game
@jonnevitu4979 It's all about knowing your options, and most people are going to have a Deepcolor in thier account.
@@zoramarslink5788 support slot?
Thought about a top 10 too very recently and came up with (up to Wis’adel).
1. Wis’adel
2. Texas the Omertosa / Yato X
3. Ling
4. Degenbrecher
5. Ines
6. Shu
7. Logos
8. Mlynar
9. Eyjafjalla The Hvit Aska
10. Bagpipe / Myrtle (high bias tbf)
Though hearing the Ines praise, she could be higher upon review. Along with the investment virtuosa is proving to be.
Ling should be lower to 7 or 8 bcs of the introduction of elemental damage, DP lock(or DP steal), DoT enemies. There is alot of stages she can't solo without a strong DPs operators who can take care of her biggest threats.
5:06 perfumer’s talent: am I a joke to you?
Edit: womp womp XD my bad
Comprehensive reading skills: am I a joke to you?
@ her talent heals all operators by 7% (0.5%) even out of range it works with mudrock and penance.
Bro did you read the screen. He wrote "and other hp regen effects."
Angelina and Shu's rice fields too
you just need a few more second
Operators 2 through 10: Specializing in damage, utility, or immortal.
Wis'Adel: All of the above
19:58 brought back memories of me trying to fight Emperor’s Blade using invisibility and camouflage. For some God forsaken reason, camouflage DOES NOT make operators immune to being hit by splash damage, but invisibility does so my operators that were camouflaged by Heavy Rain’s skill 2 got farted on and died but Fire Watch with skill 1 didn’t
HORSECOCK jumpscare got me rolling lol
I wouldn't put surtur on this list i dont even use her anymore. Would put typhoon instead
I agree with this list but I will mention 10 operators I think also deserve to be called the best.
10: Silence Alter, she provides damage reduction and Immortality to other operators.
9: Thorns & Blue Poison, they are different operators but they have a few things that are common between them that put them here.
8: Fiametta not just for her ability to nuke but also because her S3 is one of the best Aoe abilities in the game.
7: Spectre Alter, almost immortal, can deal both physical and arts damage and is an Abyssal hunter.
6: Skalter and Civ Light Eterna, Bards are just amazing supports.
5: Shu, Saria, Blemeshine and Hoshiguma or as I call them the 3 blocks you use when you don't have Mudrock or Penance.
4: Golden Glow, despite knowing what Lappland Alter could do, I still see Golden Glow as better for a variety of reasons.
3: Chongyue, Mountain: They are both low dp cost lane holders.
2: Siege Alter, because True Damage and Saibaaaaa.
1: Akafuyu, yes this is my bias, she is a Crab thus superior to you mortals. Plus she literally has carried me against every boss in this game except Minimalist. I consider her better than Hellagur even if sadly her module was so dissapointing.
just wait for Conviction alter where the skill has a 1% to just clear the stage instantly and a 99% chance to give your entire team nervous impairment
you remind me of the science dude kyle by how you say the names of your supporters at the end and i love this. I may not support your views but I like the content.
14:41 Shu in the front, horn in the back, yato and texas for enemies that get through😂
0:28 Don't lie to me, that's the language of the gods. I always love the videos of the best haiter from Arknights Like and sub
Hear me out if we just all the characters in this list in one team, we literally can’t lose
Typhon is very good besieger with two BIG... powers. Her damage with def ignore and pseudo global S3, which tracks the target even when they are immune.
Plus Muelsyse can be in honorable mentions as well. You get both a vanguard and some stat stick unit of your choise at the price of one. Plus said stat stick can multiply itself if in range form.
Ela fits too. Very strong "marksman sniper" with mini-Suzuran on demand almost everywhere on the map.
Continue the tier list of litterally all operator existed, or gummy didn't show up on your wet dream at 2 am
It feels like CN has been adding more mechanics that can hit Wis'adel through her camouflage as a *slight* balancing factor...but really all it does is make you have to actually think slightly about where you place her instead of just dumping her into the middle of everything with her unreasonably tanky summons.
one more positive video and you will become Arknight's most beloved youtuber
Some angry random comment about Degenbrecher being number 6 😡💢
Jk. Good work Supah. Supah making 2 positive videos about Arknights in a row was not on my bingo card for 2024. Changed Supah era.
love watching your videos man!! thank you for your hard work ❤ and since i realised i kinda sound like a less malicious bot i rly am not i just wanna show my appreciation and gratitude lol. anyway, thank you o7
Yato and Texas alter are pretty dumb. They are a big reason as to how I can brute force event stages without fully understanding the mechanics because big honking damage.
those 2 and along with degen and typhon help you completely ignore game mechanics . Like, In the current babel events stage, i've already cleared normal 10 stages and even the ex challenge mode stages but on the last extra bb-ss stages I found out those chains is mechanics for this event .
supah actually dropping a useful video right before a big event? what has the world come to
DAMN When we got to Logos i had some childhood flashbacks. Man, I miss JSRF.
This is peak Arknights content. I needed this.
Very good video. I agree with everything
Wis'adel makes me remember the episode of Transformers Armada called "jungle" where Starscream menaged to find an absurd power up called the "Annihilation Cannon" and the episode ends with him, laughing maniacally, after blasted away everything, screaming "OH MY ...IT'S SO EASY!" while the theme song plays hard as what is in your pants on the background
I like that W & Ines are at the top together
No Reed the Flame Shadow mention :(
Honestly, I did not expect the only two limited fast redeploys to be top 3, but now that you mention it...
Kirito has always been in my squad for almost every freaking hard stage I do, and the only times I really don't bring her, is when I wanna trust farm or have fun with other ops...
But then again makes me kinda sad not seeing Phantom being included, guy got two of himself man that should account for something :[
It really doesn't when even 2 of him can't match a tenth of a Yato
Phantom got his summon so hg said powercreeped him twice
well phantom's got his IS module coming, you'll have fun with it
@@SUPAH_SUPAH_SUPAH I mean- but still- sigh...I can't even argue about his crowd control I mean Texas Alt does 5 times better without rng...
@@NoPromisePudding if only it wasn't exclusive in IS, ngl he'd probably make a better argument if not
My personal honorable mention has to be Goldenglow. Idk if Logos will replace her but for years she has been a staple in my teams. She has global range and has pretty good damage. She especially usefull for those tanky enemies that like to stand on spawn or walk around first since she can either kill them before meeting a ground operator or soften them up
16:25 oh dont worry about that, you cant really lose something you've never had
Watching this video while using Degenbrecher and Młynar
Real I always have Mlynar placing behind Degen so he can give her a HORSECOCK backshot
For mudrock and penance it also depends very heavily on the enemies faced, Mudrock deals with slow hard hitting guys way better than penance because her shields block dmg completely and also has her 3rd skill for more stalling.
Penance on the other hand effectively only gets a bunch of hp.
If a cc buffed enemy hits hard enough, they might just end up going straight through penance‘d shield.
So it‘s circumstancial, tho I agree both should be on the same spot.
Ambriel for honorable mentions.
GLOBAL range on a 4*, with massive attack stat + stun.
Honestly expected Skalter here, given how several of these included "use with Skalter to become invincible."
5:07 they can also be healed by Shu's green goo if it's triggered either by shu or other operator in their vicinity
I know Arknights tierlists are slop, but god damn i love slop
Reed alter would be my honorable mention, great damage, great healing, great debuff. Only thing she's missing is a great module.
The Wiš'adel part had me laughing all the way to the end of the video.
"NOT ONLY" indeed.
The background music is pretty dope
Surprised Typhon wasn't on the list, even as an honorable mention, but otherwise, very solid list with good reasoning
Only thing i personaly would swap is Reed Alter for Ling. I know i might just be wrong. Or put her in honorable mention for nightingale
Number 11. Lin, because she is literally Lin-vincible.
Also, you can spam her S3, she has the biggest caster range in the game, stuns/slows enemies, and also, she's invincible.
Supah you’re wrong about gummy’s power curve, it’s either an infinitely large impulse or it grows exponentially.
I'm biased, so mountain should at least be in honorable mentions
Also Shu, except damage, but also buff other's damage so she technically damage, very damage
I think Hoederer deserves a honourable mention since he’s the one who scouted Ines and W, if it wasn’t for him they’d probably not be very alive (especially Ines) and we would not have those 2 powerhouses :D
Joking aside, Wis’adel stunning is kind of ridiculous, but I unironically think it’s the gimmick that weakly links her to Hoederer (and a nod to her skills as W ofc). Hoederer does more damage against stunned or bound enemies, which also combo’s him great with Ines. So while Hoederer doesn’t exactly offer some special gimmick to Ines or W/Wis, except maybe sanctuary for Ines if he stands in front of her, both Ines and W have skills that help him. If Wis’adel didn’t have a stun ability she would lose that link. Now, will the stun actually help Hoederer? I doubt it, since enemies need to be alive for him to do something… but, y’know, if he ever gets a hit in he will do slightly more damage… I imagine using W over Wis is more appropriate if you want to use the merc x family, since she doesn’t delete everything on the map (but hey, what would I know, I don’t have her… yet)
And before you ask. Yes, I simp for Hoederer and Ines. Yes, I use them together whenever I can (and want them to get married already). No, Hoederer isn’t a bad unit, he just isn’t ridiculously powerful (like his wife). Yes, I saved 300+ pulls so I can get their disaster of a overpowered daughter and put them next to her on the field so they can look and wonder where it all went wrong.
I would add GG into the honorable mentions. Her global range skill just change how I play this game and how many challenges gets way easier thanks to this. Her afk skill is very good too. Maybe not as op as logos but pink catto won manu stages for me :')
I do try to use off-meta ops like Gavialter or Dusk once in a while but I can agree with most of this list, but I would add Eyja alter like others said because she completely removed the challenge of ch 12 and the seaborn stages.
Supah is really huffing Gummy farts on this one, because he conveniently forgot that Shu existed
Hello Supah, I've been a fan for a very long time. My parents often put your videos while I was stuck in the hospital, my legs unmoving. I' just like you to know that your videos made me able to stand up for the first time in years today, so I could turn the tv off and not have to see your positive videos. Do better. We want hate.
I probably would've put typhoon as a replacement for murdrock or penance. She is incredibly versatile with both s2 and s3 with insane amounts of single target dmg. Its a operator that we can take to every type of stage no matter the niche as long as single target dmg is needed. Penance and murdrock altough just as good, are very niche and usually only used for specific stages. By virture of versatility, typhoon should be be in number 10 and ling should be number 9 with the two defenders as honourable mentions instead. Otherwise this list pretty good, just remember to put ejya alt next to nightninggale
Unexpectedly knowing agenda piece, good stuff good stuff
Bro went on a rant about 'W'alter. I can relate, though. I got Thorn on my tutorial pull, so yeah. And Ines on my second ten pull on her most recent banner.
SUPAH, Wiš'adel is the literal reason why W has so many simps (myself included).
Ines is like god-tier in IS mode. She literally scales with nearly every relic you finds. That's crazy.
Chen alter not making to the honorable mentions when sutr is still on this list feels really weird, she's still does so much that ir feels disengenuous, while yes her weakness with her high sp cost and ""low range"" compared to other monsters in this list it still is very impactful.
Vigil should be in honorable mentions since he can generate 2 DP.