The "Bad Boys" Pistons last-second chance at repeat championships needs a deep rewind
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- You might remember the late-80s early-90s Pistons as the head-crunching bad boys who were rough with Larry Bird and Michael Jordan, and won two championships. But what gets lost in that rendition is the decade the Pistons spent clawing their way from the bottom of the league to the top. And even when they got up top, people put an asterisk on their first championship because they beat the Lakers while Magic was hurt.
Their second championship was no guarantee, and they wouldn't have earned it, nor the respect of the league, without a scrappy reserve guard nicknamed "The Microwave". It's rewind time.
Written and produced by: Clara Morris
Directed by: Ryan Simmons
Edited by: Charlotte Atkinson
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Fun Fact: This was the only NBA Finals from 1980-1998 that didn't involve Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan or Hakeem Olajuwon.
Damn.....
Surprisingly Dennis Rodman was everywhere back then, the Spurs also loved him too, that man was roving finals machine
Good observation though, them dude were fun to watch, plus Clyde the Glide Drexler
If you add TD and Shaq the streak goes all the way to 2007
Same is basically true for 1989
For a moment I thought the title was Game 5 vs the Spurs in 2005 and as a Pistons fan I almost had a heart attack
I know right! They were super close beating the Spurs
@@terucks Could have closed it in 6 with that one stop! I suppose the butterfly effect changes game 6 drastically but still that mistake by Sheed pains me
apologies for the near-death experience
@@SecretBaseSBN y’all should still make a rewind about that
CoWorker teased me for a week or more
When the Blazers didn’t have Dame Time, they got Dame Timed
Good one bro
Bars
True
It is Dame time or be Dame Timed for the Blazers
Really cause Drexlers blazers at least made it to the finals for Jordan to sacrifice lol
That Ankle Sprain game that IT has is arguably one of the greatest games ever.
43 points, 8 assists, 6 steals, 3 rebounds, and a block. Yeah, it's awesome in any context. Considering he did it on a sprained ankle makes it even more incredible. Considering it was against prime Showtime at full strength, in LA...just wow.
Im glad people talk about this Blazers team now. They're often lost to history unfortunately
Because people don’t usually talk about the losers.
@@blowc1612
Right
Nw always loves there almost trams
Because sprinkles are for winners.
Does anyone else ever watch teams they thought would win it all but crumble entirely? for me, I like to watch 2013 lakers games sometimes.
Two finals in three years is a solid achievement
Vinnie Johnson is THE MAN!! One of the most clutch shooters ever
So true I started watching when the pistons reign was over . I got into the 93 east finals bc of bulls v Knicks which got very interesting bc the press was all over jordan & his gambling. Anyway I heard announcers comparing the Knicks to the bad boy pistons. I asked my dad about them & he loved the pistons ( bc we were new Yorkers & he hated mj for knocking our Knicks out so he loved the pistons kind of a the enemy of my enemy is my friend lol) he named all the pistons & loved vinnie johnson & told me his nickname was " the microwave " bc he heated up quickly which is such a cool nickname.
@@natalieps2387 you missed a hell of a time, friend. Hell of a time ❤️
I started watching basketball because my big sister was in love with Michael Jordan. She recorded his stats in EVERY SINGLE GAME HE HAD. I wondered who our team was. "Oh...... the Pistons? Okay, I'm going to watch them"
And off to the races I went
@@natalieps2387 Your dad was absolutely right. Part of what made the microwave so deadly was he didn't need to play the whole game to find his groove. He only needed a very short period of time before the microwave turned on.
@@sakazakijin dont I know it ! I became like a basketball encyclopedia getting every stars book & magazine I could get my hands on about the nba. My older brother had this VHS tape of the greatest stars at that point. Video was released in 90 & highlighted the best moments of the players to music i.e. larry birds best moments to the song I think called " small town " or magic's to " control " by janet Jackson. I was blown out by birds incredible 10 steps ahead eyes in the back of his head passing & great shooting ending w/ bird stealing the pistons inbound pass to dj who layed it in. At that time I had no idea of the significance. I could only watch iconic 80s games on the sports classics network. Magics passing & ball handling as a 6'9 pg must have been revolutionary. So glad for yt now I can see so much. I'm glad larry legend seems to be getting his respect from the younger generation bc someone made a video " the case for larry bird as the #goat. He def should be part of that convo. Isiah was also probably the best modern little man to play the game. Interesting facts mj never beat the celtics. I guess it can be blamed on the celtics were older than the bulls & Larry's career was cut short bc of his back. Guys from the 90s to today play 17 years. Anyway the pistons knocked the celtics out for good in 88. Another interesting fact is Isiah Thomas & his pistons were the only team to Beat mj for years. In fact Isiah is the only one who can say he beat bird Jordan & magic in their primes.
It must have been great to be a pistons fan & have that us against the world thing cause they were the " bad boys " I must live vicariously through that bc my Knicks got as close as u can get to a title in 94 going 7 w/ the rockets. The knicks easily could have won that series. Starks was my favorite player & it was excruciating as a kid to watch him shoot 2-18 in game 7. The worst part was starks was magnificent in game 6 a game that was not do or die. I wish we couid flip game 6 for game 7 but that's life. Still the 90s were a great time to watch. The pistons def had a really deep & great team. If I was a pistons fan in 87 & 88 I would have been crushed. 87 thomas threw that pass away bc of birds vision of the court & bball iq & dj deserves a lot of credit for cutting so fast to the basket & laying in a tough layup. In 88 that horrible call against laimbeer when the pistons were seconds away from winning their first title had to hurt. Also bc they lost Isiah heroics were lost. I heard he just went off scoring like crazy. They really should have a 3 peat. 2 titles is nice though. I do miss when the nba was more physical & guys on the court hated eachother. Rivalries like Knicks bulls were like wars same w/ knicks pacers. Such great times.
@@the6footplustree75 that's awesome. He could just come off the bench & add that spark plug. Man that was some 3 man guard rotation of Thomas dumars & vinnie. Their front line was pretty scary as well. I also feel sorta bad that the nba had annointed the 3 guys bird magic & mj as dad said were called the " holy trinity " so I feel like thomas got snubbed. That pistons team in terms of depth were great.
The miracle of Istanbul is a must of a rewinder
Collapse: how the Buffalo bills failure to win 4 straight Super Bowls led to nearly two decades of failure
Collapse: how the Montreal canadiens failed to reach sniffing distance of Lord Stanley for 28 years
Rewinder: Mario chalmers game tying shot
Beef history: Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Collapse: how the Edmonton oilers dynasty went from champs to one of the worst teams in the league
Untitled: Ted Williams
Collapse: how Arsenal went from mighty European club, to among the dregs of English football
Collapse: how a legendary AC Milan team that were regular UCL favorites broke apart
I’d love to see a Ted Williams or Carl Yastrzemski Untitled
Wel they did a video on Buffalo already
We need a Vikings or Cubs video like the Mariners or Falcons.
@@allabouthewaves4354 yeah after the heartwrenching mariners and falcons series a cubs one would at least have a happy ending
A beef history between Guardiola v Mourinho would be interesting
The 3 dominant teams in the 80s had a "Johnson" in their team.
Vinnie "The Microwave" Johnson
Earvin "Magic" Johnson
Dennis Johnson "DJ"
I'm born and raised in the Motor City. My Dad took me to see Dave Bing and the Pistons at Cobo Hall where my Fandom began. This is an excellent, short and crisp, rewind of the wonderful dream coming true on the Pistons during the best years of young adult life. I had moved, thanks to great jobs, toting everywhere the logos of the SPARTANS of Michigan State and every professional sports team to each office I worked out of. Tigers are winners, Wings are winners, and embrace of the march of the Bad Boys was that of belief that we had assembled the NBA GOAT 🐐! This video reminded me, with such pride, of those insanity enjoyable times (except getting ripped out by the Lakers where we should have gotten our first 😵)
at least the pistons are 2-1 in the finals vs the lakers
Excellent video. Prior to the Bulls dominance in the 90s, The Pistons were the only team besides the lakers and Celtics to win back to back titles. They also one of 3 teams that won the title in the 90s, not named the Bulls.
@Keandré Sutton only the Lakers did (87-88). The last time Celtics won back to back was in the 60s with Bill Russell
That’s a long way around of saying they couldn’t beat the bulls
what about the rockets winning back 2 back in the 90s
Solid outro joke. We need more of that in the world.
@@AVar5 Actually I think Thomas and Dumars had a winning playoff record against the Bulls.
Never forget that the Pistons were one Larry Bird steal and bad foul call on Bill Laimbeer away from a potential 4 peat champions in MJ, Magic, and Bird's league
Kinda strange how, according to the video, the Pistons 1st ring had "asterisks" on it but Laimbeer's phantom foul wasn't even mentioned.
Well it had asterisk because magic was injured
The Larry Bird steal would still mean we had to play a whole Finals series lol, tf
@@VaydaladaVodalada Yeah I'll change the wording a little bit.
@@thebigchap101 all good. It’s like when Michigan fans tell me they would have won the Big Ten in 2016 if the OSU call was different, I’m like you guys still had to play the championship game lol
I was true blue Jordan fan in that era, but I LOVED LOVED LOVED watching Vinnie Johnson. The Microwave was the best nickname in sports, because he ALWAYS warmed things up quick.
Awesome vid!
How the 1994 baseball strike killed a stacked Montreal Expos team would be a great Collapse episode
Love this pace, nice job
The Microwave! Vinnie so clutch
Vinnie was one of those guys who put up terrible advanced stats-he had just 0.5 Offensive Win Shares in the '89-90 season-but the shots he did hit tended to come in key, clutch moments. You look him up on Basketball Reference and it's like "what's so special about this guy?" but then you watch Hardwood Classics on NBA TV and you're like "Oh."
imagine if the pistons kept dantley...1989 thomas dumars dantley vinnie laimbeer would be a deadly small ball offense in this era...hell rodman at center would work too
@@razkable Mark Aguirre was a better fit. COULD put up 20-25, but a willing team guy. Dantley was all scoring and nothing else.
I'm glad you reminded everyone of how great this team was during that era. They had very good players like The Microwave, Mark Aguirre, Big James Edwards, and Bill Laimbeer (who should be in the HOF). Then you had HOFs like Dantley, Thomas, Rodman and Dumas. This was one of the deepest teams in NBA history. No wonder they went back-to-back and were always in the mix. The Pistons, Celtics and Lakers of that era all had what would be considered Superteams today.
And it wasn't star buddies getting together to do it, either.
They traded Dantley before they won anything dummy.
@@MrShanester117 You're the idiot. No one said they won anything with Dantley. FAU talking about.
@@MrShanester117 He just said "during that era." Dantley was a major contributor to going toe-to-toe with the Celtics in the '87 ECF and reaching Game 7 of the '88 finals.
@@MrShanester117 That's not how he phrased it. Second, couldn't you just correct him without a putdown? Typical keyboard warrior/internet tough guy
If there’s an asterisk for The Pistons in ‘89 then there should be asterisk for The Lakers in ‘88.
Once the pandemic ends, visit your local library. They need some love.
Really felt bad for this blazers team,they played their asses off this series. RIP Big Duck.
It’s sad that the bad boys aren’t Remembered and appreciated like the great teams that they were just simply because they were mean to Michael Jordan Lol
Yeah but that 30 for 30 did them alot of good. I certainly respected Lambier more
Respect might be too strong of a word
@@DDarkestKnight I personally don't respect the way that Lambier and the bad boy pistons played. Bill in particular seemed pretentious and acted like what he did was a lot more sophisticated than it actually was. I wasn't alive during that time, so I didn't watch them play but when I hear him talk about it and then watch clips. It looks more like Bill trucking whoever had the ball then him doing anything else more advanced.
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What? They are one of the most famous teams from the 80s and 90s. They are some forgotten great teams of that era but the bad boys Pistons wasn't one of them. Most young fans know the Pistons.
@@Gvvenk you know who isn't ever remembered the '71 bucks despite being one of the most dominant teams of all time
I will watch ANYthing Clara Morris make's. Don't get me wrong, of the thousands of sports content UA-cam channel's, SecretBase has some of the best material and presenters. But, the cre'me de le cre'me is Ms. Morris.
Love the channel, the stories, and the presentation, ladies and gentlemen! Alway's learn something, and if I witnessed the event (which, as a 41 yr old sports nut, has been a good many); it tends to bring back a tidal wave of memories and smiles.
Thanks for all you do!
I respectfully feel the exact opposite.
@@thejmc4074 And I respect a difference of opinion. If we were all the same, thing's would be boring. I am curious though: do you feel the opposite with my whole comment? Or just Clara's work?
If it is just her work that you don't appreciate, then you should check out vids by the other writers/presenters. The channel really does have some very good content.
@@rolmodel12. It is definitely just Clara. I don’t like her voice and just don’t see any appeal. I will concede I found her less offensive on this video.
@@thejmc4074 🤷🏼♂️ well, at least you like the channel.
But I get it, different strokes, etc. Lol, I have NOT dated ladies (well, just two) before, because I absolutely could not stand their voice. Which sounds pretty shallow, but better to know yourself and be honest, than force it.
Not that I have a thing for Clara's voice, I just appreciate her writing and sense of humor.
shes 🔥 its her voice and inflection that gives her a unique and distinct style
This is one of the greatest teams ever.. Badddd boys!!!!!!
Not really.
@@broaddusmarines Talent-wise yes they we're that team was loaded 1-12...
@@broaddusmarines There were at least 3 players in that team in the Hall of Fame and there should be 4.
Pistons forever
@@sheneedsme Laimbeer is not in the hall of fame?? That's personal. With all the trash being elected in the basketball HOF these days that's a shame
Finally the bad boys on this channel
Isiah got hurt in the Finals the year before and there was the phantom call against the Lakers to lose the game in the final seconds. The Pistons almost 3 peated, don’t forget it!
Yeah, 88’s the one that should have the asterisk, not 89. Great video except for the lack of mention of that phantom foul on Laimbeer.
Not to mention the damn fans rushed the court. They technically had a chance to tie game 7 and there was a tripping foul and fans trying to get on the court. Total trash. I mean it was 1988 I doubt anyone knocks down a three, but you never know.
@@austin78993 In the famous words of Rodney Dangerfield “No respect I tell ya!”
Even though the Pistons accomplished amazing things they are always overlooked.
Magic and Byron Scott were hurt in 89 so they almost didnt 3 peat.
@@777DonMakaveli777 that’s why it shouldn’t be held against us, this guy can take his asterisk and shove it.
Isiah was hurt AND the phantom Laimbeer call.
Pistons shoulda won in 88, no remorse for the Lakers injuries in 89. I call it poetic justice.
gawd, i love these videos..since i cannot stomach ESPN i can go to SB..keep up the fantastic work..
ESPN would be completely irrelevant without their rights to live games. But because leagues make those insanely expensive, ESPN loses money on them and has to make their revenue from those gods-awful talking-head shows that are a disgrace to sports and to human dignity. It's sad, really.
8:09 "The Pistons could almost be a dynasty."
Also SB Nation: Makes a Collapse video on another potential Pistons dynasty.
I'm telling you, what SB Nation does is poetry in motion.
Clara is back. This is good
No
Can't bring up the 88 finals with out the phantom foul
Right like come on
Am I the only person that thinks Joe Dumars was underrated as hell?
Naaaahhhhh not at all. He was a heck of GM too
@@terucks lol that Gm part is subjective
@@terucks He was a GM behind the 2004 Pistons. He did great, at least for those season
@@ytgc-royalewarex5190 he also inexplicably passed on Carmelo for Darko, arguably the biggest draft blunder in history. Melo was a no brainer behind LeBron. Melo was a 19yr old basketball prodigy, fresh off of being the college player of the year, most outstanding player in the NCAA Tournament, and leader of the 2003 Champion Syracuse Orangemen. The Pistons could've still won in 2004 and Melo's maturation could've carried the organization to more championships for years to come.
We need a deep rewind of the 49ers vs Saints 2011 (Jan 2012) divisional playoff game.
The bounty gate game.
That Donte Whitner hit where the HB put himself in danger and NFL player safety.
The Alex Smith story.
The Vernon Davis story.
The 4+ lead changes in the final minutes.
The Catch III.
That block by Joe Staley.
Justin Smith sacking Brees with his own lineman.
There is so much to talk about, and I can't do it all justice in a single comment.
Like this idea
“Kill the head and the body will die” the Saints bounty hunter defense was so cool but they really stopped being good in 2010
Alex Smiths daughter also just underwent a craniotomy to remove a tumor in her head. the operation was successful!
talk about a resilient family! 💯
stellar editing
Clyde Drexler played in three finals and won one. He’s underrated. He gave Jordan and Scottie, in the finals, 24.8 points, 7.8 rebounds and 5.3 rebounds per game. In Drexler’s 15 finals games he averaged 24.5 points, 8.3 rebounds and 6 assists per game.
I think anyone who knows basketball appreciates how good he was, I don't really buy that he's "underrated" in the way that guys like Sidney Moncrief or Tom Chambers are.
You cannot call "underrated" a member of the true and only Dream Team.
@@nknriff7673 i can. I just did.
@@onyx9857 :D
@@nknriff7673 You definitely can when some people nowadays don’t think he’s top 50 all time.
Laimbeer was essential to this team. He was shooting 3s all playoffs and their backbone in D.
This is a actually dope af… I knew Detroit won in 1990, but didn’t know Vinnie Johnson sealed the title XD
Laimbeer deserved a mention: he tied a then-record six three pointers in game 2, the last one nearly winning the game for the Pistons, and he burrowed deep into the heads of the Blazers with his flopping. Rick Adelman was using up valuable time in the huddles urging the Blazers to ignore Laimbeer's antics.
laimbeer rodman mahorn edwards salley aguirre vinnie thomas hell even dumars...that 89 team was so fit lol...pat riley would of won 4-5 titles with those guys...hell he would of kept dantley over trading for aguirre
Excellent video! I’ve been waiting for the return of Secret Base Rewinder for awhile, and it’s great to see it back. Plus, a BIG 2 thumbs up to Clara Morris for her outstanding work! 👍👍 Way to go, Clara!
I remember watching that, Vinnie was ice that night and I’m a Sun’s 🌞 fan and I was kiddo back then, that series was fun
The microwave vinnie Johnson was so slept on back then. Bad boy pistons rotation was deep
He wasn’t slept on. You all just say the same dumb stuff about every player
he was basically their manu ginobili/jason terry in an era where teams had only two scoring guards not three
@@MrShanester117 bro everyone says somebody was slept on
Trippen bro y’all just love to say everyone was underrated and slept on
Growing up in Michigan and watching those Pistols team's was truly a highlight of my youth
Clara, your Pistons videos really hit me in the feels. Thank you so much, they are wonderful.
omg the background music in this is so good
wow, really good narrative, I didn't expect it, so good video
I started watching NBA season 2004... I was so delighted to watch the Pistons winning the Title
keep the good work
Thank you for this video!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 absolutely phenomenal 💥💥
You should do a rewind of the Detroit Pistons VS Indiana Pacers on the Tayshun Prince block in Game 2 of the 2004 ECF. That was a playoff defining play. That changed the course of history for both franchises.
Great work, love the content!
The Michigan Appalachian State college football game from a couple of years ago (the one where Appalachian State upset the Michigan Wolverines) needs a Deep Rewinder
Well done narrating great voice and insights.
Great compliment to the bad boys documentary. Good job steering around that and filling in the gaps.
Dumars will always be a Detroit legend
love the quality of videos on this channel - this is what I'd expect from a huge conglomerate such as espn & fox sports but that's ok, I'll just keep coming back here for it lol
These are among the best run-downs of anything on UA-cam. Brilliantly done. I was fortunate enough to grow up in Michigan in this era and remember vividly every significant moment referenced in the Isiah era. Getting so close yet never being able to get over that hump. I'll never forget Vinnie's shot. The microwave. Nothing but net. 007. Back to back.
Been waiting on this Rewind
ITS BEEN SO LONG! Rewinder is BACK baby!
These are put together so well
Fun Fact #2: The 05’ Heat-Mavs was the only NBA Finals from 1999 - 2018 that didn’t have Lebron, Tim Duncan or Kobe. (18 out of 19 seasons)
AND if you add Steph OR DWade; then 4 or 5 players appeared in 20 out of 21 NBA Finals from 99’ - 20’ with 17 rings between em’.
*17 wins by LAL, SAS, Heat, & GSW.
*only 4 other champs: Det, Bos, Dal, Tor.
great work. even without video. i can't believe that ending.
Hakim Warrick's block to end the 2003 NCAA Championship needs a deep rewind. Melo was on that team.
I hate how people try to undermine Detroit's win in '89 (like in this video) because Scott was out and Magic got hurt IN-GAME.
Detroit would've beaten that same fully healthy Lakers squad the previous season had it not been for that BS call on Laimbeer (of which, had not happened, one could convincingly argue that the Pistons would have 3-peated). Besides, injuries are part of the game. Were the Pistons not supposed to take advantage of a hobbled Lakers team?
True dat
For real... If the pistons have an asterisk on their '89 title, the Lakers have a MUCH BIGGER asterisk on their' 88 title
@@joshuastinson4642 Well, see the problem with that is, one of those is the Pistons on their first ever title, while the other is the Lakers on their 11th. The Lakers can afford to have one or a few championships with asterisks, lol.
@@Copperhell144 so we agree neither are an asterisk
@@ki11atj49 Uhh... no? I don't know how you got that from what I wrote...
The Microwave still holds today as one of the coolest nicknames of all time.
this was so well done
Lady..... that's one helluva video. Thank you.
I wasn't a fan of the Pistons but I was a big fan of Vinnie Johnson. No one thinks of him as a guy that has a fantastic vertical but that's the reason why he could get his jumper off against any defender. Totally unique cat.
I was so captured by the editing honestly
I never knew they won the 2nd one that way. Incredible
Yes a new Rewinder!!!!
This narration is excellent 💯
Great times. Great Video.
Love starting my mornings with rewinder
Clara Morris is my favourite. Great video!
Great video and narration
Great job!!!! Nice video!!
Stephane Matteau’s game 7 Double Overtime goal needs a deep rewind
“Matteau, Matteau, And The Rangers have one more hill to climb, baby.”
2008 National Championship. Kansas vs. Memphis. Mario's Miracle deserves a Deep Rewind.
What's not mentioned in the video is that, prior to these Finals, the Pistons had not won in Portland in 15 years. After Portland won game 2 in Detroit, and with the next 3 games to be played in Portland, Clyde Drexler was quoted as saying "we're not coming back to Detroit." The Pistons made sure his prediction came true.
Terry Porter made the statement but everything else is Big FACTS. Even his statement "we going to the crib & we ain't coming back". He was right!!
Dope video TY bad boys 4 life
You are very good at this!!!
Love the respect for the Bad Boys!
Finally... a new NBA rewind video, i waited so long guys
I love Joe Dumars, but I think it was a while before he was the team's best player (I always feel it was Isiah Thomas until 1990-91, and Isiah was always the heart of the team).
Ha ha, people thought the Blazers were "Pistons West"? Wow, I see no similarities whatsoever. Excellent team though for sure (great 3-year run of 59, 63, & 57 wins w/ two NBA Finals appearances).
I do feel that if any team in that era could be called "Pistons West", that would be the Utah Jazz. Rugged defense (actually lead the league in fewest point against in 1988-89) and deliberate offense, but the problem with those Jazz teams was that once you got past Stockton, Malone, Mark Eaton, Thurl Bailey, and a fading Darrell Griffith, there wasn't any depth (what made the Pistons great was their depth, and when players such as Vinnie Johnson, Mark Aguirre, James Edwards, and Bill Laimbeer being to age out, the team declined, since they were never able to adequately replace those guys. In the end, only Joe Dumars was left, since Rodman was traded).
Dumars was Finals MVP in '89 averaging 30ppg.
@@AHMAD-2324 Also the NBA Sportsmanship Trophy is named after him and he was once named Executive of the Year.
@@AHMAD-2324 This is true!
the blazers got lucky magic missed the 92 playoffs...that team was so overrated
In the opening sequence with the slowed down shot clock and the heartbeat sound effect, the heart beats approximately every .1 seconds. This means that if we sped it up to real time, the heart would be beating at 600 bpm.
Sick
God damn it. You had to bring back more frustration memories that us blazer fans stuffed away
Please do one of these on the time Vince Carter dunked over that French dude at the Sydney olympics
Master Lock sponsoring the Defensive Player of the Year award is so perfect hahaha
I remember watching that game when it happened, I was a happy kid.....was a big time Bad Boy Piston fan.
Excellent stuff
Early 90s. Damn good era for basketball. I’d watch Starks and Dumars or Starks and MJ go at it as a really little kid. By then though, Zeke had slowed down a lot due to his injuries I guess. That was the era of MJ. Rodman and Dumars were such incredible defenders even Starks and Reggie Miller said Dumars was a tough defender. Was rougher, dirtier, and most points were inside and not 3’s like everyone does today. I miss those days.
Bravo!. Outstanding!
Great video.
Clara’s commentary is so calming
About damn time!! I've been asking for this for so long! ✊🏾✊🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thanks for the memory.
Much Gratitude
What a great video
Yessss I love Clara videos let’s go
I remember that game I was on the edge of my seat
Fantastic!!!
love to see it!
This is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Finally, a nba episode!
damn girl here for your voice🥰
im pacer fan for life ...i will nvr feel sorry any piston ever