Some games on an Amiga 4000
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- A better version of my A4000 game compilation in which I play (rather poorly) a couple of classic games. This time I captured the actual video output instead of just the camcorder view. Will be making more videos of this and other systems later on, if this works out well :)
System is a Commodore Amiga 4000, ca. 1992, with some upgrades. Game footage is captured from the video port in PAL RGB.
Ah, A4000. My unfulfilled dream as a kid, only had A500 and after that A1200 but wanted more speed in games like Wing Commander etc.
I can't get enough of that Lotus 2 Opening Music. :D Guess i have to dig out my A1200 with WHDload.
this brings memories of my Amiga 500plus ..great fun! Games like Flashback, Elite, Settlers were ahead of its time and they are still great to play now!
That's a nice, clean-looking classic Amiga system! Capturing the video directly from the Amiga like you've done looks great.
Three of the games on the list did benefit from having upgraded hardware. Frontier ran a lot smoother (it ran on a 500 but I recall that being like a slideshow), Monkey Island came on a whopping 11 discs and whilst you could IN THEORY play it direct from floppy, you'd be pretty mad to try it. The Settlers allowed you to bump the map size up to whopping sizes with enough RAM and a fast enough processor. Everything else would run pretty much the same as it would have on a 500
The first game has the best music I have ever heard in a game. Nice
Turrican 2.
You made my heart skip a beat when i heard the music of Frontier while i was in the kitchen.. damn such a fine game (and music :P)
On settlers - don't put a flag in the mountains. It will erase any resources under it. Put the flag close to the mountains, the geologist will find it by himself.
Excellent choice of games dear sir! That is because I used to play all of them :). I just wish the Frontier was moving so super smooth back in the day on my A2000 :)
I wonder if there ever has been a time when the A4000s were actually cheap. It feels like they have fluently changed into very expensive collector items.
+kuntosjedebil
Cheap is relative, but speaking from personal experience, bare-bones A4000s can be had for around €200 if you find a good deal. EBay is not the best place to look, as asking prices for anything "retro" are easily three, four times what they ought to be.
But it is also a fact that working systems are getting rarer, and especially the A3000/A4000 were never manufactured in large numbers. It was probably the best time to buy high-end Amiga stuff in the early 2000s as by that time lots of them were being retired from active use.
So Elite 2 was designed on a Amiga 4000.
Just to think that you can also play these games on a Raspberry Pi Zero 2
Whoah? You can play older amiga games on Amiga4000?
Gotta get one of these babes and HOLY SHIT THE SOUND QUALITY IS AWESOME!!!
The only major differentiating factor between different Amigas is the graphics chipset. Only the A1200/A4000/CD32 have the AGA chipset, so they are the only ones able to run games designed for AGA. Otherwise any Amiga can run pretty much any game as long as the other specs are met (RAM, CPU, hard drive space etc.)
There is indeed a 5.25" bay for an optical drive. It can read any CD fine. I haven't put a drive in because I already have ethernet and USB cards in the A4000 :)
Such a lovely desktop computer. Too bad it had only Amiga 500 software to work with, nobody used that 040 potential.
Yeah, there was some productivity software that did make use of the CPU power (3D modeling, video effects etc.) but not a lot of games for sure.
@@retrovideoclips it was a pentium class cpu, but it was already dead. What a shame
Ahh "disable cpu caches" it was, found an image of that startup screen. Heh, didn't know anything about those patches or anything back then as I was more or less living in a closed box without internet and such great things we have now :) Only way to learn anything was by reading Amiga magazines (almost all were in english and my english wasn't too good) and programs and everything had to be ordered from some PD selling store. So I ended up selling those games that didn't work with A1200 :(
Well, the A4000 itself is from 1992, and most of the games shown here are from around that time or a few years later even :) The sound chip in particular is still exactly the same as in the original models from the mid-80's
Well some A500 games didn't work with A1200. Some of them started to work after I did some weird trick by holding both mouse buttons while powering up A1200 and then some kind of settings screen appeared and some setting had to be disabled (FPU or something maybe).
I'll keep that game in mind for further videos in the future :)
This is true, but it was mainly due to small bugs, copy protection or just bad programming, not because of any actual hardware incompatibility. Most games could be patched to work without major changes, sometimes even just by adjusting the system configuration as you mention.
That screen is known as the "early startup control" :) The equivalent on a PC would be the BIOS settings I suppose.
That's! First Game on Amiga 500 Work 2 meby.
I envy you good sir. The only amiga I've been able to find is an Amiga 1000 without the keyboard or mouse. It must be nice to be able to load games on it without having to find working disk's of the game.
Hah I remember when I got demo of Settlers with one of the Amiga disk magazines. As saving game was disabled I had to keep the game running all the time and didn't even sleep during whole night (and had to go to school next day, agh). Ohh damn.
elite 2 music is still incredible
It's still idiotic that the A1200 & 4000 had the same sound as the 500. The planned AAA chipset had 8 channels, which would of been fine for 1992!!
That's commodore for you unfortunately... Always making silly decisions that ultimately killed the company. In general, although the ST has horrid sound... The Amiga was too ahead of its time... Samples music is fab ..but limiting (look how many games had music or effects)
If they'd introduced 8 channel, it would have helped ...but size would have been an issue... A conbo of midi like the ST and a sampling chip set would have been world beating
Commodore could have a made an amiga superior to snes
Omg !!
The settlers
How i can play It on my phone?
WOW! I dream about that Amiga computer...
See problem is I live in Australia. It's rather difficult to find Amiga's here (or any old computers for that matter) cause most people just throw them out. After all the searching I've done I've found 1 Amiga and I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity (Even if it didn't have a keyboard or mouse). I have tried eBay but most of them were either too expensive or they were American ones. Worst part is my parents used to have one when I was little but they threw it out when we got a PC.
Will do that in a future video :)
It is admittedly harder in Australia than the US or Europe, especially as shipping can get quite expensive, but there are still plenty of users there also. Check out the Amibay and English Amiga Board forums :)
Dude, i suggest picking up Zombi. (Ported to the Amiga in 1990) It's kinda like playing the mall scene from Dawn of the Dead (1978 Version) but obviously longer.
pro trick : watch movies at flixzone. I've been using it for watching all kinds of movies lately.
@Matthias Alonso Yea, been using flixzone} for months myself =)
@Matthias Alonso Yea, I have been using Flixzone} for years myself :D
A very nice set up any chance of you posting your system speck eg cpu workbench vershion ect ?
I could be misspelling it but I miss Drakken.
All these games are great but Frontier is the best to show the A400's power . I had a A500 and that was way slower on it :)
Do you mean Workbench 3.9? It was released in 2000, I believe OS X came out a year or so later, pretty close though.
You can configure the earlier Workbench 3.1 to look like more or less the same that I have here now, but indeed the default configuration is quite basic, since it needed to run also on very low-end Amiga models.
is lotus 2 smoother on 040 than 68000?
Hi! This is a Fujitsu-Siemens P15-1 Scenicview 15" Stereo LCD monitor? THX!
Yes, just checked the sticker on the back and that matches. But please be aware that it can't display the native RGB modes directly - this A4000 has an Indivision AGA scandoubler which allows "regular" VGA monitors to be used. There are also monitors which can display Amiga video without any extra hardware, e.g. certain Dell and BenQ models.
buaaa, NICE AMIGA MATE UFFF my child dream. I have a 1200 with ppc and a bvision rtg but cant use my rtg to display native a1200 games like you... How you can run those games with that video config? dont understand.... If you have a indivision card scandoubler how you can connect that and RTG video port at same time in the monitor? 2 IN video ports?
Thx mate.
Hi, yeah indeed it takes a bit of extra hardware to achieve this. I have a separate monitor switching circuit installed in one of the otherwise empty Zorro slots. The board takes in VGA from the IndivisionAGA and the CyberVisionPPC, outputting whichever is active (or you can switch between them manually, there is a toggle switch also on the back panel). You can do this the same way with an A1200 as long as you can get everything to physically fit. I don't know if anyone is actively selling the switcher at the moment, but searching for "amiga indivision monitor switch" should get you started at least.
The Amiga scene is still quite active, and you can certainly find most models if you look around, depending on your location of course. Some old stock A1200s have recently surfaced so you might even get a "brand new" unused one.
I’ve looked at used Amigas and they cost as much as a new PC lol. How much cheaper were they ten years ago?
Even 10 years ago an A4000 was not cheap, they were made in relatively small numbers and many have been lost over time. If we go back 20 years, you could get great deals on stuff. I suppose at that time Amigas were largely "just old computers" and not yet collectibles or "retro" :) These days A1200s and even A500s in good condition tend to set you back a fair bit.
@@retrovideoclips Was looking at the models that can be called "the Amiga." There several that are just cost cut variants of the original with virtually the same specs right? I imagine new Amiga games are made primarily for them, the technology in the original Amiga was extraordinary for 85. I’ve looked at the A500, A600 etc and every one of them is so pricy. Amiga is obscure in the USA, in my long retro gaming career I never heard of these computers even when I got into PC gaming. The price of retro hardware exploded some time in the 2010s, I was curious if I missed out on a cheap second hand Amiga ten years ago.
@@protocetid I suppose you kind of did! It's still not impossible to find good deals though, especially if you don't need a pristine machine and can fix stuff yourself. Check out for example Adrian Black's channel, he routinely works on Commodore stuff there in the US. You are correct in that Amiga never was quite as popular over there as it was in Europe. That said, "big box" models are probably more common over there whereas the desktop wedge models are over here.
There are essentially three generations of Amigas: The A500/A1000/A2000 from 1985-1987, the A500+/A600/A3000 around 1990, and finally the A1200/A4000 from 1992 onwards. Software is largely compatible across all models, the significant exception being software designed solely for the AGA chipset found in the A1200 and A4000. There are a few other models like the CDTV (CD-ROM set-top box with A500+ -level hardware) and the CD32 (CD-ROM games console with A1200-level hardware).
@@retrovideoclips Thanks for the beginners course, I’d almost definitely pick up one of early models for the cheaper price. A big draw of Amiga for me is how ahead of its time the original model was; later Amigas had less of a technological advantage. Too bad a used A1000 is too expensive, and unfortunately I have no electronics repair skills to speak of. Paying as much money as a new computer and having the Amiga die of old age in a short period of time is a tough proposition. Sure I could probably send it to someone who could repair it, however the bill and the price for shipping is also going to be enormous. I know there’s emulators on PC and a mini Amiga but for me the experience wouldn’t be the same without real hardware.
Are you a God???
Aww... So no Amiga 500 or 1200 games run on it? Bucker.
Say, is that place for a CD drive I see in there?
How well do Amiga 4000 read PC written data?
Pure essential,whatś the prize of this machine?in euro?
Your looking around 2 thousand pound nower days
Will the 80s Amiga games(mostly designed for A500) work too?
Hi, many older games will not boot directly from floppy disk on an A4000, but practically everything runs when installed with WHDLoad like I'm showing in the video. Aside from making games hardware installable, WHDLoad also patches any incompatibility issues there may be.
Hello, this reminds us how Commodore was exellent, and this Amiga 4000 was worthy of a pc, Amiga os 3.9, much more beautiful than Windows, Commodore could well have competed with Microsoft without problems, I do not understand how such a box could go bankrupt, to make way for Windows, since Microsoft has the luxury of pooping our bones, Windows out of 10 is good, and again, Windows 11 beats all the records of junk in a box with bug and nothing more does not go with, I wonder how Microsoft manage to sell this rag.
Sounds great. What did you use to capture that sound?
+Roosevelt Littleton
Sorry, doesn't look like I'm getting notifications from new comments always. It was just an ordinary USB video capture stick that I captured all this with (except the VGA section in the beginning, needed a different setup for that).
Nice video man! But how can it be your 4000 and keyboard be so clear white? Mine 4000 was never seen by sunlight and I don't smoke. But the faceplate and most of all the keyboard are very yellowed.
This keyboard was always white, I guess it just depends on the particular batch of plastic they used at the factory. The face plate of the A4000 was rather yellowed but some retrobright took care of that :)
Great video / Kawazu
OK, an A4000... and then all Games that run on 1MB RAM and 7MHz (except Settler, that makes use of up to 8MB RAM, and Frontier, that makes use of a faster CPU).
I know this video lacks context, but the idea here was exactly to try out older games on an expanded system. It can actually be quite difficult to get old software to work seamlessly, especially on systems like this A4000 that have graphics cards expansions. This particular setup includes an internal switcher board that can alternate between the CVPPC graphics card high resolution output and Indivision AGA output quite nicely. The monitor used here isn't actually capable of displaying the native Amiga video output at all (in fact most LCD monitors aren't).
Also, even though the games don't particularly take advantage of the A4000, they are from the same period of time (the A4000 came out in 1992, and these games I think span between 1990-1993?) There simply weren't many games around that would have benefited from the extra power. Some have of course been made/ported since then and I could make a separate video of those some time.
Still cant beat an Amiga in any Area.
hello, a question as idiot. i hve a 4000 and i search a image from a funtionality a4000, to testing my...setup (its a garbage ami, and the imagedrive is broken)..can you help me?...all nice times from germany..your "retrofhippiereak" from chemnitz/germany
Hi, do you mean a hard drive image with Workbench installed or something like that? I don't think I have anything suitable, but there is a popular German Amiga forum, a1k.org, someone there might be nearby and able to help :)
Hi there, how did you make your GUI look like this (3d like windowing and nicer icons)?
I have os 3.9 and it looks rather flat.
Roman Navalai By default it is indeed reminiscent of WB3.1. I have installed a few patches here (VisualPrefs, Birdie, PowerIcons are the main ones) to give some more options to customize.
retrovideoclips Thanks man, I will get them from aminet.
You can have a better amiga by running winua emulator :-)
First it looks nothing like OS X, maybe would look like Mac OS 7.5 if they worked little harder. Second this OS come after OS X. Before this it was even more primitive (something like Windows 3.1).
No one wants to copy most primitive GUI today.
What was that second game ?
Adam Mcvay Sorry for the delay, holidays... :) The second game here is Lionheart from 1993.
retrovideoclips yea thanks, I actually found it, really good game, cant believe I missed it back in the day..
ust like A500.
WTF?
Hi how much does a 4000 cost these days? I have a 500 and 1200 and i want to get a 4000 to add to my collection
It depends a lot on the condition of the unit, and where you are. I'd say 400 euros/dollars and up for a basic system. Much less than that and there's probably something that needs repairing, or you are very lucky :)
RetroVideoClips i am based in europe and i see them being sold voor more then 1000 dollars. Maybe there where sold less in europe?
@@Suckit180 They probably were; in the US they were used a lot for video production and other professional things, but not as widely so in Europe. Still, you should be able to get an A4000 for much less than 1000 euros if you are patient and keep looking.
Ha! Free games. :D
Anyways, thanks for the info. I really gotta hunt one of these down.
Unreal is a great game
Playing the Amiga version of Monkey Island 2 on an A4000 seems kinda pointless lol.
it looks like osx o_O
Bing Proof that Apple copied Amiga