Same here mate i still have my amiga 500. We had one lad at school who had an ST.... we were really cruel to him back then... weird how little things like what system you owned was so controversial back then
@@oldstylegaming Yep i remember this ;) Some guy i know cracked some games and put their own Intro before the Game starts. They call themself FAA = Federation against Atari . And that was really mean ;) Amiga 500 was back in time the mainstream computer ( after C-64 ), and i know only some rich students with snobbish behaviour who owns an Atari ST / Mega ST ;) And possible this was one of the reason of hate against a good Homecomputer !
I never owned it because at the time I had the Commodore 64 and then I switched to the Amiga 500, but I remember that seeing an Atari ST in operation at the end of 1985 was like being the protagonist of a science fiction movie, especially in Italy, where the first consoles like Atari 2600 and Mattel Intellivision had been marketed only three years before.
"lived" implies past tense. I still have two STe's, a TI-99/4A and a Vectrex. I bought them for my retirement entertainment. I retired 5 months ago, but all three systems have become daily drivers again for the past 4 years. Who says you have to grow up and leave behind foolish things???
Always loved the way on Moon Patrol your buggy's suspension reacts exactly the correct way to the landscape. Gives the game a proper sense that your buggy really is driving over a rocky landscape.
Thanks for making an ST centric video, ST fans appreciate it! - some great games listed too, real favorites of mine - especially Supersprint, amazing fun with 3 players.
So many great Atari ST memories for me. As someone who couldn't get to the arcade so often. It was great to please these on the ST and have them capture that arcade feel. Thanks for the video.
Great video !!! The first that comes to mind is all the battles we had at the arcade playing ”Sprint”. Aaah , sweet innocent youth ; where , oh where have thou gone? Star wars , off road and buggy boy were awesome on the ST. Never got to play any of the others on the ST. New Zealand story got a shorter run on my A500 though.
Being a Amiga owner back in the day like you, I remember being really fed up with the constant ST ports that wasn't doing justice to the Amiga's capabilities but it was what it was and after 30 years I guess I've chilled and finally got over it! I remember some of these games on the Amiga and some are great, the Star Wars port looks spot on, I'm gonna check it out later. Great list m8, the extra time yer putting in these vids shows too, they look class :)
It was always the way the Atari ST sounded for me as my mate had one an yeah for the most part it was on par with the Amiga for looks the sounds always sounded like it was in a tin can imo. The banter that was had tho was great and i think am safe to say the Amiga won as a year after he got an ST he got an Amiga 😅. Great video as always buddy so roll on the next one, tkae it easy buddy.
Funny thing about the ST vs. Amiga. The design team for the Atari 800 (headed by Jeff Miner) built and designed the Amiga. The design team for the C64 (headed by Shiraz Shivji) built and designed the Atari ST. So... in actuality the ST is really the successor to the C64 / C128 and the successor to the Atari 8-bit computers was the Amiga!
I never felt the st was a poor man’s Amiga. I always found it funny though how both sets of fans used to argue about what version was best when I had a megadrive and snes 😊
For reference 16 mhz was like, the Mega STE? That is not a huge chunk of systems out there. Sure wish I had a 16 mhz switch back in the day because some of these ran like ass at 8.
Yeah emulation makes things much easier than having to upgrade your systems. I am not entirely sure what systems were capable of being modded with the 16mhz or higher. I have a 1040STe
I forgot about blasteroids. Awesome game. I had an ST and later an Amiga so I played many of these games on both. I have fond memories of my ST, it’s the system that I first learned 68000 assembler, fun times. Super sprint is one of my favorite games ever. I had so much fun playing with friends. I’m looking forward to more ST content. Great job as always.
@@oldstylegaming just checked my photos, September 2019 my first trip and it was there then and a month ago. As you go in the front door it's downstairs on your far right hand side. The aisle with (moving) Outrun, Power Drift etc :)
@@darrenrussell8980 maybe it wasnt there in feb 2019 when i was there. Ill ask someone i know who works there...ill be annoyed if i have missed that....i was canny drunk like
Ah, Joust! Many hours (and coins) spent in the arcade playing that game and many more hours spent playing it in my Atari ST at home. There was also a reasonable port to the GBA, too. Anyway fella, thanks for the video. Just catching up on your channel a bit. Surprised to see an Atari ST feature here tho, thought you were a Commodore boy through and through! 😁
I never owned an Atari ST, so I can't really comment on your list; but seeing Moon Patrol in the top spot really made my day: that's one of my all-time favourite arcade games, I grew up with this and Elevator Action 🙂 By the way, was EA ever ported to the Atari ST?
Great video. I was lucky enough to own both the Atari ST and the Amiga A500 and both were great systems although I have to say the Amiga will always be my favourite. Dont remember playing a lot of arcade ports back in the day (Buggy Boy being the exception) but I have fond memories of Carrier Command, loved that game on the ST.
I feel the opposite way. I also had both an Atari ST, and later on an Amiga, but the ST holds the fondest memories for me. It's still the only system I've acquired just so that I could play one specific game.
Starting to watch this.. interesting on Buggy Boy being #18 -- I always thought that was a surprisingly good port / game on the ST, especially knowing it's limitations now.. It was a great early ST game. (Same with Arkanoid..)
I'm surprised by ranks 1 and 2... I never knew these games were officially ported to the ST. I only knew about Crystal Castles. Of course, Atari already had the rights for the conversions from their home versions, but I thought by the time they issued the ST, their times of making games themselves would have been over. At least over here in Austria I never saw an Atari release for the ST... not that I cared much about them anyway since I had a C-64 and an Amiga. And of course, these 2 games were not officially ported to the Amiga!
I loved my st 520. It was ground breaking from my trusty 48k the Amiga topped it but I should of cleaned more cars in the summer holidays ! But still a magical day when it finally arrived in my bed room ..an arcade machine there just waiting for me .
Great video! Had an ST in the early 90s and loved it. Some really fond memories. One oddity here is that the conversion of Road Runner looked different to how I remembered it - particularly the colour palette. Thought perhaps I was remembering it incorrectly, but checked a couple of other videos on UA-cam and sure enough, they match my memory and look closer to the arcade. Weird... could the version you played be a modified/bootleg version? No big deal, just curious!
Buggy boy looks absolutely mint! Commando looks really good as well, haha I’m the same with klax, my cash wouldn’t of gone near it at the arcades but on the home conversions it’s great! Ah I love Ivan Ironman, great on the C64 as well. Love gauntlet, need to have a look if I ever get an Atari! Bubble bobble, I’ve still never played a bed home conversion yet! Moon patrol looks class, added to my wanted list Awesome as ever mate
Bro... I’d never seen Joust before. I remember me and my mate ‘finding it’ on a disc and thinking it looked cool and played well...: and then we worked out it was P v P... we were gobsmacked. 🤙✊
I knew a lad with one and a group of us would skip school on the occasional Friday afternoon and play Brian Cloughs Football Fortunes. I remember in the magazine C&VG, they were doing one of those readers vs staff high score challenges and they asked one of the readers about Amiga Owners and ST owners. I can’t remember which machine he had but he called the other owners Wankers. This was actually printed lol.
absolutely agree with your number one. ST Moon Patrol rocks. (still not as good as Vector Patrol on the Vectrex (which blows the arcade version out of the water) but it is a modern homebrew, so not a fair comparison. What is missing is Battle Zone...the first 3D tank simulator, the ST port is not only perfect arcade port, it's not a port. It is emulation of the actual arcade machine. That makes it hands down the greatest non-Neo-Geo home version of any era-specific game. The Vectrex version (Stramash Zone) still wins out by nature of it being a vector game on a vector console (as well as having the most impressive overlay ever produced for the system), but again it's a modern homebrew, so disqualified.
I loved Altered Beast. It could be rather frustrating at times, but I've later tried the original on an emulator, and that was damn frustrating too :D So I guess it was a faithful port of the original.
First, you guessed right, 'Super-Hang-On' didn't have the sound glitches on the original hardware. Second my list of Arcade ports on the ST which I consider good ones: '1943', 'Alien Syndrome', 'BadLands', 'Bionic Commando' (except for the scrolling), 'Bomb Jack', 'Chase HQ', 'Crystal Castles', 'Enduro Racer', 'Gemini Wing', 'Ghouls'n Ghosts', 'Hard Drivin', 'Hot Rod', 'Ikari Warriors', 'Last Duel', 'LED Storm', 'Marble Madness', 'Mercs', 'Operation Wolf', 'Outrun Europe', 'Rainbow Islands', 'Rampage', 'Rampart', 'Robocop', 'Rod-land', 'R-Type II', 'Saint Dragon', 'Silkworm', 'Slap Fight', 'Smash TV', 'Strider', 'Super Monaco GP', 'Test Drive 2: The Duel', 'Toobin' and 'Volfied'. And then there a a lot of faithful versions of early 80s Arcade games in the PD/Homebrew sector.
Hi! It's hard to make Arkanoid to look bad :) Only if you're really a beginner IMO. Moon Patrol seems to be good... but how they've didn't noticed that the most far mountains layer has a milky-blue color which represents so called "air perspective". Yes, the moon has no air :)) But it's the artistic rule. So my mention is that they've failed by choosing the deep blue color for those mountains in the ST port. Bubble Bobble on Amiga looks much better IMHO.
@@oldstylegaming may be hard to find 20 though, might be better as a top 10….. Phoenix and the obvious Space Invaders Missle Command Asteroids Centipede Millipede Ms Pac Man Berzerk Defender
@@patsfan4life Personally I like the Atari 2600 version of BattleZone, sure it didn't have vectors, but the gameplay was still top notch I didn't really like the Atari 2600 port of Defender, although I did like Defender II/StarGate on the 2600. Felt Activision did a better job with their clone Chopper Command.
Amiga fan who's largely tolerant of the ST here (I saw it first and did want one until I saw the Amiga). I've always loved Moon Patrol and its clones for some reason, but the fact that it and Joust are the top 2 isn't actually a great advert for the ST, that it could do early-80s games better than contemporary titles. Super Sprint is one I wish the Amiga had. Pac-Mania and Arkanoid are pretty poor compared to the Amiga versions, though still quite playable. Most of the others are little different, usually-inferior sound aside, which is to say they get nearer the ST's limits than the Amigas, if we're honest. The only stinker for me is Black Tiger - I'm not willing to excuse it on the 'it's better on a super-expensive upgraded model not designed for games' basis.
The STE and everything based on it were great machines, but the original ST and everything up to the STE were kind of weak, and wore their hastily cobbled together nature on their sleeve. Not *bad* mind you: its lack of much custom hardware could've been a strength had Atari been better managed, and an alternate universe where they, like Apple, survived (the Atari of today it a totally different entity) would be an interesting one.
yeah... Amiga fanboys these can be very loudmouthed, i don't know what their agenda is really as it is just the game on another system... but of course if the ST never would have existed then the Amiga games probably would have been better... but on the other hand if the Amiga would never have existed then the Atari ST games would have been better. I never was never against the Amiga back in the day.. i was happy with my C64 and Atari ST :) You show some great games in the video... i used to play Super Sprint and Buggy Boy a lot when i was young, but the game i think is the technically best arcade port on the ST is "Rod Land"... i think it has even less slowdowns than the original arcade version if i remember correctly. oh.. nice Replicants intro video you have there ;)
Super Hang-On - 4:00 - See how that green biker is leaning right toward you? For some reason, all the bikes in both the ST and Amiga versions try to intentionally hit you. It's not like that in any other versions of the game. Space Harrier - I actually thought the 16-bit home ports were rather poor. They looked great in still images, but they were choppy, the enemy shots were way too fast and they couldn't even be bothered to use the arcade sound effects.
@@jasonlee7816 It's really not. The graphics and music are nice, but that's about it. Neither the voices "Get ready!" or the sound effects are anything like the arcade. It's missing the "You're doing great!" voice clip, the ceilings in levels 4 and 9, and the second bonus level before the ending boss rush. Also, the animation is kind of choppy (especially in the bonus level!) and the enemy shots are about twice as fast as the arcade version. Also, minor thing, but the bonus level is missing the explosions when you hit the trees, and it makes the gun sound rather than the explosion sound.
I have heard the Atari ST was a very capable machine with some great games. Now, I never experienced the micros as I live in the US so I really don't know. I started with the Nes and Master System in 1986. I moved onto the Sega Genesis in 1989 and kept going forward like that. Which micro computer do you prefer now? It sounds like you had a rivalry like the Genesis vs. Snes here. While I had both the Sega Genesis/Sega CD and Snes my loyalty was always with Sega. Even being required to buy 6-button controllers I still went with Sega on most cases. I also thought the Snes here looked like a cheap piece of junk. Our Snes was such an eyesore that I often hid it in my entertainment center in my room. Sorry...went on a tangent.
These Arcadeports looking great on Atari ST. But some games look to fast for an original Atari ST ? Possible the Emulator gave this games some decent fps boost ? Or you did your test with an original Atari ST ? Moon Patrol looking awesome, in my eyes better than the Arcade Version ;)
My atari st is a 1040ste with no upgrades. The emulator is set to 16mhz for some of these games but i believe it is a mod that is available for real hardware too... but im no expert on Atari ST's
@@oldstylegaming 1040 ST = Mega ST ;) Normal ST had around 8 mhz and Mega ST had 16 mhz. And thats the reason some games run so smooth ;) In my teenage years i know only 2 guy who owns an Mega ST, all other guy used the standard ST cause this Mega ST was to expensive for the most Kids / Teens ;)
@@craftuar2439 A 1040 ST is just a 1MB version of the 520 ST, and comes in the same all-in-one form factor. The Mega ST was a different line, and had the box and keyboard separate. The 1040 STE had some enhancements over the 1040 ST, but still ran at 8 MHz. The Mega STE is a pretty cool and rare machine, but OSG is not saying he has one of those. He's just using an emulator to run games at '16MHz'.
Wasn't expecting to see you do any Atari ST content. I had an ST before I got my first amiga (1200) and I loved it even though I knew most of the same games were better on the Amiga. There were some occasions where the ST was better though.
Thing is that until 1990 the Amiga scene was an utter joke - terrible controls.... I had both - Amiga workbench looked like ASS running on a low rez monitor
All I know is this won’t include Thunderblade !!!!! (Terrible port) but there were some gems out there. I seem to recall Gauntlet was pretty impressive.
@@oldstylegaming games like dangerous streets, cannon fodder, jetatrike, atr, sensible soccer, flink, gloom, arcade pool, zool, pinball fantasies, alien breed, banshee, base jumpers, lost vikings, fears, pirates gold etc. There's loads. But you probably know that already lol
@Old Style Gaming Thanks for covering the Atari ST... I was an ST Owner back in the day and I have to be honest, I feel it's got a bad rap over time... Yeah, I have to admit it was far surpassed by the Amiga, I was always JEALOUS of Amiga Owners when they got LEMMINGS 2 - THE TRIBES and the ST Version seemed to vanish... ...But the Atari ST was capable of far more than its ever been given credit for - I was never into the Demo Scene back then, but looking back at some ofthose amazing demos, The Atri ST had an ASTOUNDING Sound Chip - In fcat to many who have torn apart the hardware, it was BETTER THAN THE AMIGA!!! So I have to admit that I now find it hard to understand how the Amiga was laways considered the better system.... And I feel it comes down to something that back then I would never have thought of but is 100% True! The simpel fact is - The Amiga was more accessible for Programming! I was never into progrmamming, The most I ever did was a few BASIC type in's from the Amstrad CPC days, but Amiga did seem to embrace that... It was easy to access even for a beginner... The Atari ST was AWFUL for that! LOL! Still, I loved both systems... Obviously growing up with the Atari ST - I wil always be a defender... However, I have to admit that over time, The Amiga and its ease of use - Yeah, The Amiga was the better system overall!
some of those ports was better on other machinces. Example Road Runner is much better on the C64 and Pac-Mania is better on both Spectrum (ace music here) and on the Amiga (a game that was not a direct typical Atari st -> Amiga port). Etc Road Runner a game, that has controls like asss in the arcade original (but much nicer on those ports as they could not simulate the trackball anyway). But yes Rainbow Island is a great port (which is missing here) to all formats its was ported too and also such a game that matched home computers perfectly. Sad that game is missing. Its mightbeen one of the best well done port all around (its not that often happens a good arcade game also got a good ports on all formats its was released too). But regaardless they can all still been fun to play here. Im even has played some games im think was nice, but relairty was bad back in the time. hihi. Here on the Amiga, but that does not matter ;-).
framerate does matter ;-), which is quite choppy here like 16fps (unlike 50fps on the C64) and you move so close to the camera edge which is so stupid. Also Seed Meter is clearly better on the C64 too with a smart uses of sprites. But still.... Its much much better on the Atari ST/C64 than the arcade, which stinks of the ass controls used in the arcade.
St is a good machine. Better than amiga when it comes to vector graphics (not sprite).in the rest Amiga is beter St had bad luck because it was launched only one month before amiga
Yeah i suppose this has happened throughout our lives with systems being released together and also on things like video recorder formats (vhs and betamax) if more people had bought the ST at the beginning than the Amiga things may have panned out very differently for this system
I used to have a weekday paper round, sunday paper round and i used to chop sticks and sell them round the estate i lived on. Saturday was the only day i had off and would go to the skateboard park and arcades everyweek . We also had a local cafe that had a back room with about 12 arcades in which my mates dad owned so we got free play on those most of the time.... so to answer your question... i was as poor as a northern miners son should be...but i worked hard to get the money for 1 good day out a week
@@oldstylegaming fair play to you. I enjoy your videos and I’m sure we would have been best of enemies in the playground what with me being a diehard Amstrad CPC fan
@@timoheinonen9570 No it wasn't. The ST music often sounded TINNY. In fact I bought an ST just as soon as I got rid of my C64. And I was gutted because i thought the sound was actually a DOWNGRADE from the SID chip. Then I decided to get rid of it and get an Amiga instead. Yes there were a couple of games that were better on the ST, Defender of the Crown comes to my mind (The Amiga port felt rushed), but oeverall the Amiga was far better system
The ST came out first, so I system that came out first is in no way a clone of a system that came out after. That would be like saying the Atari 2600 is a bad "clone" of the NES. SMH
I'd put Rainbow Islands on the list as well, amazingly good conversion.
I was an Amiga500 kid back in the day and had nobody at school with an AtariST so i find this all very interesting. Thanks for doing this video.
Same here mate i still have my amiga 500. We had one lad at school who had an ST.... we were really cruel to him back then... weird how little things like what system you owned was so controversial back then
@@oldstylegaming The console wars will never end! We all progressed at my school to SNES vs Megadrive war shortly after 😄
@@oldstylegaming
Yep i remember this ;)
Some guy i know cracked some games and put their own Intro before the Game starts.
They call themself FAA = Federation against Atari .
And that was really mean ;)
Amiga 500 was back in time the mainstream computer ( after C-64 ), and i know only some rich students with snobbish behaviour who owns an Atari ST / Mega ST ;)
And possible this was one of the reason of hate against a good Homecomputer !
I knew quite a few people with Atari ST computers back in the day myself included. I thought they were quite popular in the u.k.
I never owned it because at the time I had the Commodore 64 and then I switched to the Amiga 500, but I remember that seeing an Atari ST in operation at the end of 1985 was like being the protagonist of a science fiction movie, especially in Italy, where the first consoles like Atari 2600 and Mattel Intellivision had been marketed only three years before.
Absolute classic games, what an era we lived through
"lived" implies past tense.
I still have two STe's, a TI-99/4A and a Vectrex. I bought them for my retirement entertainment. I retired 5 months ago, but all three systems have become daily drivers again for the past 4 years.
Who says you have to grow up and leave behind foolish things???
Always loved the way on Moon Patrol your buggy's suspension reacts exactly the correct way to the landscape. Gives the game a proper sense that your buggy really is driving over a rocky landscape.
Thanks for making an ST centric video, ST fans appreciate it! - some great games listed too, real favorites of mine - especially Supersprint, amazing fun with 3 players.
So many great Atari ST memories for me. As someone who couldn't get to the arcade so often. It was great to please these on the ST and have them capture that arcade feel.
Thanks for the video.
Great video !!! The first that comes to mind is all the battles we had at the arcade playing ”Sprint”. Aaah , sweet innocent youth ; where , oh where have thou gone? Star wars , off road and buggy boy were awesome on the ST. Never got to play any of the others on the ST. New Zealand story got a shorter run on my A500 though.
Being a Amiga owner back in the day like you, I remember being really fed up with the constant ST ports that wasn't doing justice to the Amiga's capabilities but it was what it was and after 30 years I guess I've chilled and finally got over it! I remember some of these games on the Amiga and some are great, the Star Wars port looks spot on, I'm gonna check it out later. Great list m8, the extra time yer putting in these vids shows too, they look class :)
Thanks mate, i think you will love Star Wars on there.
It was always the way the Atari ST sounded for me as my mate had one an yeah for the most part it was on par with the Amiga for looks the sounds always sounded like it was in a tin can imo. The banter that was had tho was great and i think am safe to say the Amiga won as a year after he got an ST he got an Amiga 😅. Great video as always buddy so roll on the next one, tkae it easy buddy.
Check out wing of death and lethal xcess mate if you want to hear some great Atari ST music
For me it was the opposite. The Amiga always sounded muffled whereas the ST had great clarity to its chip tunes.
Funny thing about the ST vs. Amiga. The design team for the Atari 800 (headed by Jeff Miner) built and designed the Amiga. The design team for the C64 (headed by Shiraz Shivji) built and designed the Atari ST. So... in actuality the ST is really the successor to the C64 / C128 and the successor to the Atari 8-bit computers was the Amiga!
The Atari ST was the 'poor man's Amiga'.... I had an ST and didn't regret it for a minute. Sure, the Amiga was great, but I didn't have the money.
I never felt the st was a poor man’s Amiga. I always found it funny though how both sets of fans used to argue about what version was best when I had a megadrive and snes 😊
The Atari busy loading Bee!
I 'd forgotten about that little guy!
For reference 16 mhz was like, the Mega STE? That is not a huge chunk of systems out there. Sure wish I had a 16 mhz switch back in the day because some of these ran like ass at 8.
Yeah emulation makes things much easier than having to upgrade your systems. I am not entirely sure what systems were capable of being modded with the 16mhz or higher. I have a 1040STe
I forgot about blasteroids. Awesome game. I had an ST and later an Amiga so I played many of these games on both.
I have fond memories of my ST, it’s the system that I first learned 68000 assembler, fun times.
Super sprint is one of my favorite games ever. I had so much fun playing with friends.
I’m looking forward to more ST content. Great job as always.
Where is Rainbow Island?, IMHO it's a great, maybe the best arcade port.
They have a sit in moving Space Harrier at the Arcade Club, Leeds if you're ever in the area, amazing place
I was there 2 years ago i never saw it
@@oldstylegaming just checked my photos, September 2019 my first trip and it was there then and a month ago. As you go in the front door it's downstairs on your far right hand side. The aisle with (moving) Outrun, Power Drift etc :)
@@darrenrussell8980 maybe it wasnt there in feb 2019 when i was there. Ill ask someone i know who works there...ill be annoyed if i have missed that....i was canny drunk like
I would probably put Rainbow Islands in the top position. If you haven't checked it out on the ST, give it a go! Thoroughly recommended! 😄
Atari 520 STe (later upgraded to 1MB) was my first 16bit computer and i loved the hell out of it.
I remember wanting an ST back in the day, specifically for the Gauntlet series, since it was the only port I remember closest to the arcade version
Ah, Joust! Many hours (and coins) spent in the arcade playing that game and many more hours spent playing it in my Atari ST at home. There was also a reasonable port to the GBA, too.
Anyway fella, thanks for the video. Just catching up on your channel a bit. Surprised to see an Atari ST feature here tho, thought you were a Commodore boy through and through! 😁
Lol i like all old systems, i actually have a 1040ste
I never owned an Atari ST, so I can't really comment on your list; but seeing Moon Patrol in the top spot really made my day: that's one of my all-time favourite arcade games, I grew up with this and Elevator Action 🙂 By the way, was EA ever ported to the Atari ST?
Great video. I was lucky enough to own both the Atari ST and the Amiga A500 and both were great systems although I have to say the Amiga will always be my favourite. Dont remember playing a lot of arcade ports back in the day (Buggy Boy being the exception) but I have fond memories of Carrier Command, loved that game on the ST.
I feel the opposite way. I also had both an Atari ST, and later on an Amiga, but the ST holds the fondest memories for me. It's still the only system I've acquired just so that I could play one specific game.
I absolutely loved Buggy Boy on my ST! Great times. 😃
Great list of classic arcade games. Enjoyed it, will mention Bubble Bobble looks to be running a tiny bit slow, imo.
maybe i should have upped the Mhz?
Off Road Racer and Klax are two of my faves.
Absolutely loved flying shark on my ST your right it's one of the best shooters on the ST
The Black Tiger port looks amazing!
Great list. I love all of these on the ST!
Brilliant work as always.
You're channel is a gem.
Thanks for this list! I have been looking for some good ST games to try, and I see there or four worth checking out!
The arcade Baggy Boy is so smooth
Starting to watch this.. interesting on Buggy Boy being #18 -- I always thought that was a surprisingly good port / game on the ST, especially knowing it's limitations now.. It was a great early ST game. (Same with Arkanoid..)
Nice selection of arcade port games
I'm surprised by ranks 1 and 2... I never knew these games were officially ported to the ST. I only knew about Crystal Castles. Of course, Atari already had the rights for the conversions from their home versions, but I thought by the time they issued the ST, their times of making games themselves would have been over. At least over here in Austria I never saw an Atari release for the ST... not that I cared much about them anyway since I had a C-64 and an Amiga. And of course, these 2 games were not officially ported to the Amiga!
I loved my st 520. It was ground breaking from my trusty 48k the Amiga topped it but I should of cleaned more cars in the summer holidays ! But still a magical day when it finally arrived in my bed room ..an arcade machine there just waiting for me .
Love that comment mate it totally captures the whole nostalgic feel of back then
Thanks for your reply mate ..happy days !!
Great video! Had an ST in the early 90s and loved it. Some really fond memories.
One oddity here is that the conversion of Road Runner looked different to how I remembered it - particularly the colour palette. Thought perhaps I was remembering it incorrectly, but checked a couple of other videos on UA-cam and sure enough, they match my memory and look closer to the arcade. Weird... could the version you played be a modified/bootleg version? No big deal, just curious!
Buggy boy looks absolutely mint! Commando looks really good as well, haha I’m the same with klax, my cash wouldn’t of gone near it at the arcades but on the home conversions it’s great! Ah I love Ivan Ironman, great on the C64 as well. Love gauntlet, need to have a look if I ever get an Atari!
Bubble bobble, I’ve still never played a bed home conversion yet!
Moon patrol looks class, added to my wanted list
Awesome as ever mate
Commando could’ve had better sound effects without the music
@@jasonlee7816 it could of definitely.
Bro... I’d never seen Joust before. I remember me and my mate ‘finding it’ on a disc and thinking it looked cool and played well...: and then we worked out it was P v P... we were gobsmacked. 🤙✊
WOW I used to play Moon Patrol on my Dragon 32 in 1980's!
I'm so glad I had the C64 and then the Amiga 500, and not the ST. Wow got lucky there!!
I knew a lad with one and a group of us would skip school on the occasional Friday afternoon and play Brian Cloughs Football Fortunes.
I remember in the magazine C&VG, they were doing one of those readers vs staff high score challenges and they asked one of the readers about Amiga Owners and ST owners. I can’t remember which machine he had but he called the other owners Wankers. This was actually printed lol.
Lol i cant believe they put that in the magazine. I might do a football games video with the euros being on
absolutely agree with your number one. ST Moon Patrol rocks. (still not as good as Vector Patrol on the Vectrex (which blows the arcade version out of the water) but it is a modern homebrew, so not a fair comparison.
What is missing is Battle Zone...the first 3D tank simulator, the ST port is not only perfect arcade port, it's not a port. It is emulation of the actual arcade machine. That makes it hands down the greatest non-Neo-Geo home version of any era-specific game.
The Vectrex version (Stramash Zone) still wins out by nature of it being a vector game on a vector console (as well as having the most impressive overlay ever produced for the system), but again it's a modern homebrew, so disqualified.
I loved Altered Beast. It could be rather frustrating at times, but I've later tried the original on an emulator, and that was damn frustrating too :D So I guess it was a faithful port of the original.
I never owned atari st, but i liked how the machine itself looked. It still looks fantastic.
Yessss! I loved my STe
Never owned one of these...too expensive for my mum lol great video as always mate
First, you guessed right, 'Super-Hang-On' didn't have the sound glitches on the original hardware. Second my list of Arcade ports on the ST which I consider good ones:
'1943', 'Alien Syndrome', 'BadLands', 'Bionic Commando' (except for the scrolling), 'Bomb Jack', 'Chase HQ', 'Crystal Castles', 'Enduro Racer', 'Gemini Wing', 'Ghouls'n Ghosts', 'Hard Drivin', 'Hot Rod', 'Ikari Warriors', 'Last Duel', 'LED Storm', 'Marble Madness', 'Mercs', 'Operation Wolf', 'Outrun Europe', 'Rainbow Islands', 'Rampage', 'Rampart', 'Robocop', 'Rod-land', 'R-Type II', 'Saint Dragon', 'Silkworm', 'Slap Fight', 'Smash TV', 'Strider', 'Super Monaco GP', 'Test Drive 2: The Duel', 'Toobin' and 'Volfied'.
And then there a a lot of faithful versions of early 80s Arcade games in the PD/Homebrew sector.
...and of course I forgot a few: "Continental Circus", "Paperboy" and "Mega Twins".
Hi! It's hard to make Arkanoid to look bad :) Only if you're really a beginner IMO.
Moon Patrol seems to be good... but how they've didn't noticed that the most far mountains layer has a milky-blue color which represents so called "air perspective". Yes, the moon has no air :)) But it's the artistic rule. So my mention is that they've failed by choosing the deep blue color for those mountains in the ST port.
Bubble Bobble on Amiga looks much better IMHO.
Thing with Bubble Bobble is I could never stand that bloody tune!
Was gutted the Amiga didn’t get a port of Super Sprint although a homebrew is now available
It would be super-interesting if you did one of these for the Atari 2600.
Ill take a look at that
@@oldstylegaming may be hard to find 20 though, might be better as a top 10….. Phoenix and the obvious Space Invaders Missle Command Asteroids Centipede Millipede Ms Pac Man Berzerk Defender
Lol ive found about 40 for the shortlist so far
@@patsfan4life Personally I like the Atari 2600 version of BattleZone, sure it didn't have vectors, but the gameplay was still top notch
I didn't really like the Atari 2600 port of Defender, although I did like Defender II/StarGate on the 2600. Felt Activision did a better job with their clone Chopper Command.
@@lordevyl8317 good call
Yo OSG my man there are good games on the ST i liked I didnt own one though
When you make these videos, how many games do roughly play for each system?
For 20 games i make a shortlist of at least 50 then play them all and give them scores
can't believe you didn't include R-type or Commandos.
Could somebody please enlighten me what the intro song is at the beginning of this video? I think it is from Wings of Death (STE Version).
Rodland should really have made this list as was a fantastic conversion
loved my st to bits
Amiga fan who's largely tolerant of the ST here (I saw it first and did want one until I saw the Amiga). I've always loved Moon Patrol and its clones for some reason, but the fact that it and Joust are the top 2 isn't actually a great advert for the ST, that it could do early-80s games better than contemporary titles. Super Sprint is one I wish the Amiga had. Pac-Mania and Arkanoid are pretty poor compared to the Amiga versions, though still quite playable. Most of the others are little different, usually-inferior sound aside, which is to say they get nearer the ST's limits than the Amigas, if we're honest. The only stinker for me is Black Tiger - I'm not willing to excuse it on the 'it's better on a super-expensive upgraded model not designed for games' basis.
The STE and everything based on it were great machines, but the original ST and everything up to the STE were kind of weak, and wore their hastily cobbled together nature on their sleeve. Not *bad* mind you: its lack of much custom hardware could've been a strength had Atari been better managed, and an alternate universe where they, like Apple, survived (the Atari of today it a totally different entity) would be an interesting one.
yeah... Amiga fanboys these can be very loudmouthed, i don't know what their agenda is really as it is just the game on another system... but of course if the ST never would have existed then the Amiga games probably would have been better... but on the other hand if the Amiga would never have existed then the Atari ST games would have been better. I never was never against the Amiga back in the day.. i was happy with my C64 and Atari ST :)
You show some great games in the video... i used to play Super Sprint and Buggy Boy a lot when i was young, but the game i think is the technically best arcade port on the ST is "Rod Land"... i think it has even less slowdowns than the original arcade version if i remember correctly.
oh.. nice Replicants intro video you have there ;)
Ill check that out... realistically i should have checked it out already but it completely slipped my mind
Blind fanboys in general are loudmouthed
No rainbow islands or battlezone..?
Interesting selection though.
Was surprised to see Moon Patrol on 1st. It is a great game indeed, but 1st?
Based on how close it is to the arcade yes its first
Super Hang-On - 4:00 - See how that green biker is leaning right toward you? For some reason, all the bikes in both the ST and Amiga versions try to intentionally hit you. It's not like that in any other versions of the game.
Space Harrier - I actually thought the 16-bit home ports were rather poor. They looked great in still images, but they were choppy, the enemy shots were way too fast and they couldn't even be bothered to use the arcade sound effects.
Amiga Space Harrier is a good port
@@jasonlee7816 It's really not. The graphics and music are nice, but that's about it. Neither the voices "Get ready!" or the sound effects are anything like the arcade. It's missing the "You're doing great!" voice clip, the ceilings in levels 4 and 9, and the second bonus level before the ending boss rush. Also, the animation is kind of choppy (especially in the bonus level!) and the enemy shots are about twice as fast as the arcade version. Also, minor thing, but the bonus level is missing the explosions when you hit the trees, and it makes the gun sound rather than the explosion sound.
I have heard the Atari ST was a very capable machine with some great games. Now, I never experienced the micros as I live in the US so I really don't know. I started with the Nes and Master System in 1986. I moved onto the Sega Genesis in 1989 and kept going forward like that. Which micro computer do you prefer now?
It sounds like you had a rivalry like the Genesis vs. Snes here. While I had both the Sega Genesis/Sega CD and Snes my loyalty was always with Sega. Even being required to buy 6-button controllers I still went with Sega on most cases. I also thought the Snes here looked like a cheap piece of junk. Our Snes was such an eyesore that I often hid it in my entertainment center in my room. Sorry...went on a tangent.
How I miss my Atari ST
These Arcadeports looking great on Atari ST.
But some games look to fast for an original Atari ST ?
Possible the Emulator gave this games some decent fps boost ?
Or you did your test with an original Atari ST ?
Moon Patrol looking awesome, in my eyes better than the Arcade Version ;)
My atari st is a 1040ste with no upgrades. The emulator is set to 16mhz for some of these games but i believe it is a mod that is available for real hardware too... but im no expert on Atari ST's
@@oldstylegaming
1040 ST = Mega ST ;)
Normal ST had around 8 mhz and Mega ST had 16 mhz.
And thats the reason some games run so smooth ;)
In my teenage years i know only 2 guy who owns an Mega ST, all other guy used the standard ST cause this Mega ST was to expensive for the most Kids / Teens ;)
@@craftuar2439 so ive got a good one?
@@oldstylegaming
Yep ;)
@@craftuar2439 A 1040 ST is just a 1MB version of the 520 ST, and comes in the same all-in-one form factor. The Mega ST was a different line, and had the box and keyboard separate. The 1040 STE had some enhancements over the 1040 ST, but still ran at 8 MHz.
The Mega STE is a pretty cool and rare machine, but OSG is not saying he has one of those. He's just using an emulator to run games at '16MHz'.
I’d include at least Escape from the Planet of the Robot Monsters..
Wasn't expecting to see you do any Atari ST content. I had an ST before I got my first amiga (1200) and I loved it even though I knew most of the same games were better on the Amiga. There were some occasions where the ST was better though.
Thing is that until 1990 the Amiga scene was an utter joke - terrible controls.... I had both - Amiga workbench looked like ASS running on a low rez monitor
All I know is this won’t include Thunderblade !!!!! (Terrible port) but there were some gems out there. I seem to recall Gauntlet was pretty impressive.
Yeah gauntlet 1 and 2 were great in the ST
Still have my 520 ST.
Where is TOKI? :)
yea Moon Patrol is the best thing on the Atari ST...
ZX48 vs C64 was no race though, the C64 was superior
Any news on the cd32 list?
I forgot about that... what was your ask again?
@@oldstylegaming best or worst of cd32 games
@@oldstylegaming or both lol
@@garethbraint ill get on it next
@@oldstylegaming games like dangerous streets, cannon fodder, jetatrike, atr, sensible soccer, flink, gloom, arcade pool, zool, pinball fantasies, alien breed, banshee, base jumpers, lost vikings, fears, pirates gold etc. There's loads. But you probably know that already lol
@Old Style Gaming Thanks for covering the Atari ST... I was an ST Owner back in the day and I have to be honest, I feel it's got a bad rap over time... Yeah, I have to admit it was far surpassed by the Amiga, I was always JEALOUS of Amiga Owners when they got LEMMINGS 2 - THE TRIBES and the ST Version seemed to vanish...
...But the Atari ST was capable of far more than its ever been given credit for - I was never into the Demo Scene back then, but looking back at some ofthose amazing demos, The Atri ST had an ASTOUNDING Sound Chip - In fcat to many who have torn apart the hardware, it was BETTER THAN THE AMIGA!!!
So I have to admit that I now find it hard to understand how the Amiga was laways considered the better system.... And I feel it comes down to something that back then I would never have thought of but is 100% True! The simpel fact is - The Amiga was more accessible for Programming!
I was never into progrmamming, The most I ever did was a few BASIC type in's from the Amstrad CPC days, but Amiga did seem to embrace that... It was easy to access even for a beginner... The Atari ST was AWFUL for that! LOL!
Still, I loved both systems... Obviously growing up with the Atari ST - I wil always be a defender... However, I have to admit that over time, The Amiga and its ease of use - Yeah, The Amiga was the better system overall!
Rampage was allways good at my mates house
some of those ports was better on other machinces. Example Road Runner is much better on the C64 and Pac-Mania is better on both Spectrum (ace music here) and on the Amiga (a game that was not a direct typical Atari st -> Amiga port). Etc Road Runner a game, that has controls like asss in the arcade original (but much nicer on those ports as they could not simulate the trackball anyway).
But yes Rainbow Island is a great port (which is missing here) to all formats its was ported too and also such a game that matched home computers perfectly. Sad that game is missing. Its mightbeen one of the best well done port all around (its not that often happens a good arcade game also got a good ports on all formats its was released too).
But regaardless they can all still been fun to play here. Im even has played some games im think was nice, but relairty was bad back in the time. hihi. Here on the Amiga, but that does not matter ;-).
what makes Road Runner better on the C64?
framerate does matter ;-), which is quite choppy here like 16fps (unlike 50fps on the C64) and you move so close to the camera edge which is so stupid. Also Seed Meter is clearly better on the C64 too with a smart uses of sprites. But still.... Its much much better on the Atari ST/C64 than the arcade, which stinks of the ass controls used in the arcade.
St is a good machine. Better than amiga when it comes to vector graphics (not sprite).in the rest Amiga is beter St had bad luck because it was launched only one month before amiga
Yeah i suppose this has happened throughout our lives with systems being released together and also on things like video recorder formats (vhs and betamax) if more people had bought the ST at the beginning than the Amiga things may have panned out very differently for this system
But where is Rainbow Islands?
I hate that game...its been in every video so far so wanted a change
Love seeing the Amiga fanboys getting riled up 😊
Just how rich were you as a kid? Not even 2021 me could afford to play as many arcade machines as you did as a child.
I used to have a weekday paper round, sunday paper round and i used to chop sticks and sell them round the estate i lived on. Saturday was the only day i had off and would go to the skateboard park and arcades everyweek . We also had a local cafe that had a back room with about 12 arcades in which my mates dad owned so we got free play on those most of the time.... so to answer your question... i was as poor as a northern miners son should be...but i worked hard to get the money for 1 good day out a week
@@oldstylegaming fair play to you. I enjoy your videos and I’m sure we would have been best of enemies in the playground what with me being a diehard Amstrad CPC fan
Lol but we all mates now ;-)
flying shark is FASTER than the arcade.... look at them!!!!!!
Yeah im running it on 16mhz though. Was slow on 8mhz
@@oldstylegaming ohh.... i stand corrected :D
Great video, but are your a Geordie, you accent sounds like a posh Geordie, like Jimmy nail😁.
I am, just speak your proper accent mate👍🏻
Im not a geordie thats why. Im from durham
@@oldstylegaming Yeah probably why, could tell u had a north east accent, I'm from South Shields👍🏻
@@stewsretroreviews my mates are from shields... shields is the skateboard park and dune amusements were where i went every week
👍 🍀
even for the top 20, most f the games look slow and laggy, atari ST was a terrible system
Nar they are ok. Flying shark and moon patrol would probably be the ones ill play again
@@oldstylegaming everyone to their own, i wouldn't use one as a door stop never mind play it
For music it was much better system than Amiga.
@@timoheinonen9570 nope
@@timoheinonen9570 No it wasn't. The ST music often sounded TINNY. In fact I bought an ST just as soon as I got rid of my C64. And I was gutted because i thought the sound was actually a DOWNGRADE from the SID chip. Then I decided to get rid of it and get an Amiga instead. Yes there were a couple of games that were better on the ST, Defender of the Crown comes to my mind (The Amiga port felt rushed), but oeverall the Amiga was far better system
Atari is bad clone Amiga. 😅
It is the other way, as Atari ST was released before Amiga 1000
The ST came out first, so I system that came out first is in no way a clone of a system that came out after. That would be like saying the Atari 2600 is a bad "clone" of the NES. SMH