Appalachian Outlaw Devil Jim Turner
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- Appalachian Outlaw Devil Jim Turner as told by The Appalachian Storyteller
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Late this past summer my sister and I laid my Mother's ashes to rest in a small hillside cemetery in Harlan County Kentucky, near the old Black star coal mine. My grandpa worked in that mine. Mother was homesick for Kentucky, so we took her where she truly belongs. Be at peace mother 🤗🙏⭐
Sorry to hear that...I lost my mama as well... There is a song called "You will never leave Harlan alive", guess had to deal with union and that mine. We have lead mines here the men work in i.e....my dad. He made sure I'd never be able to work underground while he has a say. & he is still having his "say". We scattered my mom at a place called Bay Creek on Jack's Fork River aftwr cremated. Her husband never planned a funeral so it was a "event" getting Momma's remains scattered. Good luck Bull-cat , gonna pray for you today. Have a good day
@@zachsimmerock5257 ....I sure appreciate you sharing your kind words, and experience, and your prayers. Thank you.
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I love the narration and the old photographs. Hard to believe the life that they all had. This is the real deal and not some movies that try to replicate these stories
Thank you for that, as you said this channel is about telling the real history as it happened. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What a story, seems to me that when it was Jim's time to leave, the gates of hell opened up and took him. Thank you
Thanks, Janet
(GG Granddaughter in-law) Literally!
Just what I needed on a snowy afternoon.. it was a perfect fit and in my favorite color! J.D. you know me so well. 😂😂. I feel like there was a hint of Hatfield and McCoy in this story. The fact that an ordained preacher can turn outlaw reminds me of an old saying about preachers, maybe you've heard it. "Some were called and some were sent, others just took the book and went". 😂😂. Have a great weekend my friend.
yeah this was a bad dude, he tied one fella up to a tree, cut his nose and ears off and pulled all his toenails out and sat down and cooked dinner over the campfire and enjoyed a bowl of beans while he watched the fella slowly die. I didn't put it in the video, cause some would have freaked out or been offended, but none the less, he was one messed up preacher!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller WOW.. glad our preacher is MUCH nicer than that. Haha
I had never heard that. Its about the truth though.
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No Snow,but Come Mornin be around 1 degree till Come Monday.Whoppin 34-6 then!Heat Wave!
As a native Georgian, current Tennessean and Appalachian, I love these stories. I have a ton that were passed down from my ancestors.
Very cool! Thanks for tuning in David!
This is the first time I ever heard of Devil Jim Turner. However, this story helps explain why my father's people didn't like Harlan County. Daddy never took us there. I have never been there to this day. During the Civil War my father's people took the old ways (Native American ways) and moved so deep into the woods that no one knew they were out there. That may be why I never heard anything about Jim Turner. Daddy's people wanted nothing to do with the Civil War. However, my mother's people were another story. Mom was from North Carolina.
Harlan county was the birthplace of outlaws back then
I'd love to hear a story by JD about these people and how they were able to survive hidden from the war.
Now I knew why Parents got us out of west Virginia.
Another great story to watch on a cold 18 degree Sunday morning, in these Carolina Hills before heading off to Church. The wife mentioned on the way to Church that I might not should watch these stories on Sunday mornings. I replied that I would pray extra hard today for watching todays story telling before Church.😉
Hello JD! You definitely need to narrate a documentary series of the Appalachian history. Good story of another man turned outlaw.
Have a blessed day!
I always tell JD that as well @ long form narration. Glad you appreciate his hard work too and his voice ❤.
@@DivineByDesignWithDani he is definitely a man of many talents.
I’d love too- my dream would to one day get a call from Netflix or the history channel ❤️
Loved the story
I love the outlaw and clan stories of Appalachia’s past. Reminds me of listening to my uncles tell about our family’s darker history. You’ve done a great job as always. To further that point, I got your book and have begun to read that stories already. Tried a bit to read it to my stepson as well. I am not nearly so good at reading those stories as you are at telling them.😂😂 I am pretty sure my boy just listened to be respectful. 🤣🤣
Thants awesome, if your reading for a child- read “the doorstop” to them
will do. Probably do that for bed time tonight. I don’t think it is the story so much as who is reading it. I do get into the reading but something must be preventing me from selling it. 😂But, he’ll come sit with me on the porch in the morning and listen to your stories, while I’m listening to them. So, I know he likes your stories when you are telling them. 🤣🤣
Many men along the Mason Dixon line faced the same decision that Jim did and for many it wasn't about slavery or even states rights, rather protecting one's property. Devil Jim was raised proper and yet still went bad, somethings never change, go figure. Thanks JD hope you have a great weekend. Enjoyed.
Exactly, and Devil Jim’s family lost everything because of the war
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller thank you JD for all your hard work which brings enjoyment to all of us.
Thanks for another great story JD! Hearing stories like this remind us of how good we have it today! God bless!
Thanks Ronnie, hope y’all aren’t still snowed in
it surely does.
You my friend are the best story teller ever
Thank you Kimberly ❤️
From what I've read, back in the day there were many like Devil Jim some turned that way, some got better and some died. You have a lot of great photos with story's .
Well said James- part of me thinks I would have turned out like these men if I had to survive back then
What a great way to start my day, a cuppa and a awesome story. Thank you for sharing your hard work 🇨🇦 💛👍
Thank you, hope y’all are staying warm
What a great story and excellent production , my grandma was Emily Turner ( Pace ) married to James Pace. I remember vaguely the stories of Devil Jim we heard as youngsters .
Thank you so much!
Jim Turner was my great great grandfather. I do believe after reading the court transcripts and letters written to his brother that many of the stories about him are exaggerated. He was an educated and well spoken man. I’m proud to be a descendant.
Could be right, I read lots of things about him, but like you say, newspapers were looking to sell copies and sensational stories sold best... much like today.
I lived for awhile near Lincoln New Mexico. I was just discussing the Lincoln County War with someone yesterday. The war was fought because John Tunstall built a new store in town. The old store was working with territorial government in confiscating food meant for the Apache Reservation and selling at exorbitant prices. Tunstall was an honest man and charged his customers a fair price. He was only 24 years old when he was murdered, contrary to every movie you've ever seen on the subject where he is always portrayed as elderly. McSween was only 26.
Incredible story - so grateful for your research. I love the music and everything, the whole vibe of your channel
❤️ thank you so much Alexandra!
Another excellent production. The photos! I really like how you put in the lines like we're watching an old film. I usually listen while i drive so i don't get to see the detail but today i watched. So well done 👏
Thank you for watching!
The video in your stories is so good. I love the wild horses in the beginning. It really shows the time and effort you put into these tales
Thanks so much, I really do work hard and spend a lot of money on these videos to make them the best I know how, and im always aiming to improve
Ol’ Devil Jim was a piece of work! Isn’t Harland County, Kentucky famous for some other feuds? Was he a product of his time or just plain crazy? Only God knows. Another good story. As always, I love the music and the sound effects. Thank You JD.
By the way, hope you’re not snowed in like we are… stay warm and safe. More stories please 🙏.
Yeah, ole Devil Jim was a piece for sure, I didn't mention it in the video, but he could be downright brutal when killing. He was known for cutting a persons nose and ears off and pulling their toenails out while they were tied to a tree and still alive. He would sit down and cook some beans on the campfire and watch them slowly die while enjoying a hot meal. Yep, still snowed in on the mountain here in East TN, but I have a 4wd jeep and have made a couple runs for supplies.
@@TheAppalachianStorytellermy stepdad worked in those Harlan mines when he graduated in 1980. Love these stories btw
Good story on a good snowy afternoon! Thx!! Your voice has a natural story telling agent to it👍
Thanks so much my friend, I work hard at the craft to do the best I can and im still learning
Enjoyed your video on Devil Jim. Truly he grew up at a time and location. Where there were many violent men. Then the Civil War broke out. Thus Devil Jims reputation as an outlaw only grew. A different time where many men lived by the gun. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
Well said
I love Mollys stories the best and the one that Granny tells, like Milly's boy! Those are so nice to listen to and put some sunshine in my day. The outlaw stories are interesting too. Thanks JD!
I’m working on molly 4 stay tuned
What an amazing story. I’m not sure what my thoughts on it are, but I do know that back then it was hard times & hard living. JD, what would we do if we didn’t have you to keep us informed and entertained by your stories? I shudder to think about it! Blessings always my friend! Please stay safe and warm! ❤️✝️😊
always enjoy these comments, thanks for watching ❤️
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller I wouldn’t miss a video of yours if I could help it JD! ❤️✝️
❤ thank you , JD.
God bless.
Have a blessed day Nonnie ❤️
I have a friend his last name is Middleton. JD we need more stories from you brother your one of the best at telling stories now
Are you in Kentucky?
Loved it! I went on a road trip to Appalachia last summer. Beautiful, friendly folks and lots to see. Amazing Civil War history.
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What am awesome story. I think Jim was a victim of a few bad circumstances. Kinda sad, but a heck of a story. Thank you for sharing this. I was so into it that I almost over cooked a pot of rice. ❤. Can't wait for your next one. Lord bless my friend.
Morning JD! The Good Lord has seen fit to let me have another Saturday morning with you and I let him know quick that I appreciated it!
Yes sir, it’s another great day to be alive
My grandpa 3 times removed was a blacksmith in the Confederate Army. He was killed by mortar fire on Feb 20th 1862.@@TheAppalachianStoryteller
how bout that, God rest his soul@@scottblack3381
You done it again your the best storyteller I've ever heard thanks jd for all the hard work
Thanks so much!
Your welcome jd keep at it we need you
Love this channel. Love these old stories.
Thanks Joe. I do my best to keep this story, factual and historical and always teach something in the stories. I’ve noticed lately that there’s lots of channels out there that are just spitting out fake ChatGPT stuff.
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Keep up the great work!!!
You done it again my friend....Great story...Keep e'm coming..
Thanks so much Steve, have a good en brother
Speechless.
Thanks for tuning in and commenting Nancy
Enjoyed again jd. Similarities like a Hatfield and McCoy's
Sure was!
Great story brother........that's a heck of a way to leave this ol world..........👍
Sure is
Morning JD. Gotta love the outlaw stories. Thank you. Boy what a character!?
Glad you enjoyed it Karen!
The Middleton killed by Jim Turner (or his brother) was William Middleton. This death appears connected to the longstanding Middleton-Turner feud. William Middleton was killed in December of 1872, long after the end of the Civil War. William and his brother, Carr, were both Confederate soldiers during the Civil War, and this entire line of Middletons (children of Walter Middleton and Sarah Turner) all joined various Confederate units (enlisting in either Rose Hill, Lee County, VA, or Jonesville, Lee County, VA) from what my genealogical research shows (my husband is a great-great-great-grandson of Walter Middleton). Just letting you know. Thank you for this story, I can't wait for my husband to listen to it!.
Yes, William Middleton was killed in 1872 to keep him from testifying against Devil Jim. This whole episode with Devil Jim poured fuel on what would become an all out war between the Turners and Middleton clans, but the beginnings of the feud actually dated back to Devil Jims grandfather. You see, his son (devil Jims dad) inherited half the property and money when the old man died, and his daughter inherited the other half. His daughter went on to marry a Middleton fella and that's how they came into money and power. The Middletons, prior to inheriting all this newfound wealth had been petty hog thieves, and had been stealing from the Turners for a while. That became the genesis for the feud.
I just had to double check my family tree and if i have it right I am also from this line of middletons. Through sarah "sallie" turner and walter middleton, from their son james middleton born around 1825. this is amazing to find family stories and distant relatives through youtube!
Wow. That was an incredible story! Thank you!
Thank you Joy, have a blessed evening
Such a great story jd thank you😊
Thank you Rebecca have a blessed day
You do a great job brother. My son and I enjoy listening to all your videos.
Keep them coming and
God bless.
Thanks Travis, tell your son I said hello
@TheAppalachianStoryteller
Case said hello. He though it was cool that you answered back.
Have a good day and stay warm.
God bless.
Enjoyed this video.Would like to see the rest of Molly story.Hope you have a great weekend.
I guess ole Devil Jim got his in the end. Great listening.
Yes he did, have a blessed day Pam
So glad I found your channel and being a North Carolina native I can relate to the locations. Keep up the good work!!
glad to have you here Dwayne, make yourself at home my friend
That was a great story.
Thanks so much!
Very well done, JD.
Thanks so much !
Great Story! Thanks You so much. very enjoyable!!
Thank you!
Seems like youve spent a lot of time on this one. Very well done as always. God Bless
I did, 32 hours this week for this 13 minute video. I am trying to learn a new software to make my map illustrations better, and that took probably 10 hours of that time. Thanks for your support, it helps me make these videos, I couldn't do it without people like you.
You should do a little behind the scenes on the process of how you put the videos together. That would be interesting. Be cool to see how you do it.
He is my great great grandfather. My great grandfather left Harlan around 1919.
Check out my community page. I posted a real authentic photo of him on there.
Another fine story JD.
Thank you Sharon, have a blessed day!
Thank you for sharing this story I have heard many tales of outlaws My great grandfather was jumped and knifed by one. I remember my granny told us of her father
Wow Bessie! I would have loved to sit and listen to those stories!
Jim Turner is my 4th or 5th great grandpa on my mother’s side of the family. Mom was born is ‘34 In High Splint above Evarts.
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Good old Harlan County. Gotta love it. What a rich history. It's now half myth half truth. Growing up my Moms family spoke a lot about how their family never had a slave and fought on the Union side. My Dad's family never spoke on it.
It was a hotbed of outlaws back in the day for sure.
Hi JD another amazing story I could listen to you all say your a fantastic story teller you have a talent x
Thanm you Sonia! Hope you have a wonderful day
What a story JD! Land sakes...what a life..
I just hate a out the lives cut short
He was something else for sure. Also happy you got your shirt!
Gosh, karma can be a real bummer! Thanks, JD!
sure can!
This one was a little closer to home. And to top it off, our youngest daughter married a Middleton. Lol
Probably related to!
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller No doubt about it. When his grandfather died a couple years ago, they buried him in their family cemetery on a hill in Harlan County! It was winter, my daughter was 7 mths along & she couldn’t make it up the icy hill. I reckon even the pallbearers had a hard time getting the casket up there. It got bad enough that they called for a time out & changed into the work boots they had worn the day before while digging the grave, with shovels.
wow@@pameversole5886
I love history, i dont know alot about cowboys the west etc... i always come to this channel❤
glad to have you here!
Good morning and happy Saturday.
Morning Robbie- hope y’all had a good week- we been snowed in
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller hopefully the snow is chilled out for you and Saturday is treating you well!
Devil Jim is a distant cousin. My Turner's lived in Breathitt County nearby. My GGrandpa's uncle was "Shifty Jim Turner" murdered in 1859 by unknown assailants. Likely liquors were part of Jim's problem. Many Turner's have been known to brew Shine and enjoyed popping that cork. 😂😊
I had a fella email me today with an actual photo of Devil Jim on a tin. pretty amazing. it was his great great grandfather
@TheAppalachianStoryteller After finding your video I looked up Jim & turns out he's my 5th cousin 4 times removed. Thank you for your video. Love the pictures
Love the way you tell these stories, From Manchester, UK 🇬🇧
Thanks so much!! be sure to check out the photo of Devil Jim in the community section that his great great grandson sent me after I released this video. It's canny how close he looked in real life as to the way I imagined he looked in this video.
interesting, I wish I could say it was a different world, but we still have plenty of Devil Jim's running around
Enjoyed that this morning. Thisn took place really close to home.Thanks
Are you in Harlan county?
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller I am about a 35 minute drive from Harlan I'm at the bell county Whitley County line
One of my distant relatives. Our branch came from Harlan up through Leslie and Clay and ended in Jackson county
Awesome
My great great great maybe (one more) grandmother was Susan Turner Middleton And there was a lot more to the story
Good morning JD ty for the story & have a wonderful day
Good morning Mrs Beth, hope you have a great day!
I am actually a decendent of the real Devil Jim Turner and this was wild to see! I definitly have to get this story!
That's cool! Hope you enjoyed. BTW, I posted a real picture of Devil Jim on my community tab, go check it out
I will definitely check that out!
Sometimes outlaw stories will leave you feeling like "bad choices, but they still seem like kind of fun, likeable people"... this one, not so much lol but your storytelling is still fun!
Yeah, this guy was a piece of
This is well written. “The Bible and the bottle.” A scary combination.
Thanks for noticing that line!
You never disappoint, JD. That was worth waiting for. A reminder that all of us have a bit of saint and sinner in us, but Devil Jim Turner was overabundant in the latter. Maybe his supposed calling to the pulpit never was real, like some of the charlatans we have today. Well, Jesus said it would be like this.
Thanks Frosty! Im glad you enjoyed it, preachers and outlaws, especially when they are one and the same, always make for a good story
WHAT A AMAZING STORY BRILLIANT AGAIN JD
Thanks so much!
thank you JD, great photos also. and what i think about his life, is you reap what you sow,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Well said Olskool
Great story.
The bible says,
"be not deceived.Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
amen Kevin
My grandmas mom was his granddaughter. It's really cool seeing a documentary about him. My kin moved to London kentucky but I'd love to know if I still have family in harlan I never met.
I checked out 9:44 Castle Rock, WA, and there are Turners and Middletons in the area. I hope the feud didn't continue into Washington. I'll see if the historical society in that area has this information. Thanks for all your great work!
Thanks so much, happy researching!
Castle Rock is in my State. Very remote area in 1910, some 20 years after Statehood. Many Civil war veterans came to Whatcom County and received land grants for their service. Cornel Picket's house is some 4 blocks from my house, Built before he returned to Virginia to join the army of Virginia...
thanks for that additional info, that makes sense... maybe Devil Jim had some old war buddies out there.
Devil Jim was a wicked man. It amazes me how a person can walk away from Gods word and become so evil. I suppose devil Jim allowed satan to rule him. Great story JD, sad but another good one
Well said Dwight, have a blessed day brother
Because they get nothing from reading the gospel of Christ from the beginning, he heard it , even preached it but his heart was hard and prideful so he received nothing from god’s grace
Devil Jim! What a name for a preacher.
Yes sir
Great story! People now days can't seem to get it that what caused the American Civil War was slavery, but most of the men who fought it could have cared less. They had other reasons. Especially those back here in the mountains. Thanks JD!
My Mommas People was from Harlan county Kentucky. Strait creek and salt trace. My older sister is buried on the hillside next to the train tracks behind my cousin Old Man Kale Saylor's church. I'm the great grandson of H.A.Caldwell and Sie Saylor. My Great Grandpaw ran a country store on 119 before you turn on strait creek.
Ole Jim was sure enough a rough man . Great job brother. Just got me a copy of your book and looking forward to reading it
Thanks so much! I hope you enjoy, Preciate you!
Being very familiar with Harlan Kentucky I know a lot of Middleton’s and I once knew a man named Jim Turner. My Grandmother lived in Kitts Ky just outside of Harlan and she lived on Turner Hill. The man who lived across from her was Jim Turner. Must have been related to the man in your story.
probably so Trooper
Yep it seems that he reaped the seeds that he had sewn.
Very much enjoy your story and am looking forward to hearing more. Escpecially from some names we don't hear much about these days. It sure had to have been karma to have a stroke as your just standing by fire to get warm and then fall straight in the flames. oh my what pain that was to be like that a whole night by yourself burnt up in. Probably for the best really cause he never would have made it even if he had help then. Back then a infected cut would take you out, not considering sever burns all over body.
Wow what a story however this reminds me of my Lawson family so many stories about like you shared here
glad you enjoyed it
Your videos are a great bed time story :)
where are you located at grumpy?
Great storytelling, and what a hell of a tale ! ! I'm subscribed but haven't gotten anything from you in a long time. Great music also ! !
I put stories out twice a week, glad to see you back
I love that your a Phillips 🤍 I have a lot of Phillips Family from and live in Kentucky. Much love from Indiana 🤍
Thank you Jenny ❤️
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller your welcome 🤍
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We need to take note of history. For we are looking down the barrel of these circumstances once more. People ain't ready.
well said my friend
Hope you are safe in the East Tennessee blizzard. Great video as usaul
Still snowed in up here on the mountain
Rutledge is still a mess. Stay safe brother
Im over here in Anderson county, still a mess too
@@robertwelch7513
One of my best friends growing was a descendant of devil Jim. He was a Jones but his mother was a Turner.
It was too short i wanted more.lol thanks
Love videos like this ❤ love the stories of the Appalachian folks ❤ I was born in bell county ky ❤
Thanks so much rainbow glad you enjoyed it. Be safe over there in Kentucky.
Not much of a life. Another awesome story, JD.
Thanks Earl!
As a descendent from Hillsboro, VA Allen's. Sounds like a kindred Spirit
Him and Floyd Allen would have tore this world apart!
That was the best one yet! Love this channel 🤠
Thanks so much!
They say you never leave Harlan alive. For Jim Turner it just took a little longer.
Well said
I guess "Live by the gun, die by the gun" doesn't always apply. Listened to it before but listen to a great many of them more than once. I love your story telling and miss the old ways. Thanks for all you do!
You should do a series on the “white caps of sevier county “
I put this in my future story ideas folder, thanks!
I’ll be watching for it!
You’re doing great work. Keep it up brother!