Thanks to Brian and William for having me on. I would definitely like to come on the show again and talk more about Forgotten Realms gods. I would like to address the perception that I may have been disinterested or caught off-guard by the guys' energy. I have a stoic and reserved personality and I know it can make a bad first impression at times. I loved being on the show and I knew what type of humour and shenanigans I would encounter. If you find my presentation dry, I can live with that and I would honestly tell you that my show isn't likely to be your cup of tea. Hopefully what information I bring up is still interesting despite how it is presented.
I hope people aren't giving you too much shit. I have been subbed to your channel for at least a year now and I have loved the wealth of information you have been able to dig up and organize in such an accessible format. Keep up the fantastic work!
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I honestly don't blame you for the way you're feeling, and I feel as though its not your fault. As a long time watcher of the Dungeoncast, even I have a hard time taking Brian's constant distractions and goofy wordplay as serious content too. As a ttrpg player of about 6 years, something - I'd imagine others like myself would agree - that is hard to deal with is: to talk about fantasy or fictional content without people truly listening or "taking you seriously" when you're trying to talk about it on any intellectual level. It doesn't feel good if you're asking for someone's subjective input or their thoughts on something only to see their eyes glaze over in an attempt to make a joke out of the topic you're trying to put forward. I get that this is a casual space that we can talk about our games and ideas, but we are all here to learn about the game, first and foremost. Thank you for coming on, Religion of the Realms, Hope to see you on the show again!
This was a good episode, and even though im quite late to this party, i would like to say i think your guest this episode did just fine, and was a fine match for you guys here.
I think the "Ritual Murder" that Bhaal is god of refers more to like, the type of serial killer that has a specific way that they always kill their victims, always take a specific "trophy" from their victims, etc.
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos will be sewn from their passage. So sayeth the wise Alaundo.
I think William and Brian could cover Jergal easily and it would be a fascinating episode. I covered Jergal a while back. There are some glaring issues with it. But I think it is still informative.
In Baldurs Gate 2 'throne of Bhaal' Cyric was mad and said he didn't want the murder portfolio, so it basically fell on him but when Bhaal came back it probably wasn't difficult for him to re-adopt the portfolio of murder
He is a looong time fan of the show and knows exactly how crazy Brian and I are. Ben is just naturally stoic. It was actually a lot of fun for us to have him on the show.
Brian and William never fail to surprise and make me laugh. William is 100% right. I am not an emotional kind of person. But I knew full well what I was getting into lol.
Hahaha dude just rolled his eyes I have absolutely rolled my eyes at our boys before. I feel you my guy! (Rolled my eyes in a loving way, of course. Like you do when your kid tells you a joke his buddy told him at recess ❤)
I love Ben's content. One of the best resources for a DM who loves to have a game consistent with a pre-established setting are people like him who are the repository of so much lore, and who can see where connections are drawn that might not be explicitly stated in the sources :)
Oh man, your timing is great! I'm running something in Avernus and these three have been in the back of my head for weeks. I want my crew to encounter the three, or the cultists of them and have been working out how. This is a great dive that's really helped form some new ideas. I GOTA add Malar in the mix now.
Just dropping by the you tube to show some love been listening to you guys during work after discovering you on Spotify, thank you for hours of entertainment. P.s. shoutout demogorgon
Jergal is doing much more than just trying to resurrect his people The timeline the Spellweavers came from, possibly the same one the LaShay and Mindflayers originated from, was erased They’re also the ones who first created the obelisks that we see replicas of throughout 5e Ed Greenwood has man a lot of cryptic posts about Jergal, and also published Lord of The End of Everything on DMs guild I’d love to see a video on Jergal
It was Ed's good friends and former Realms writers Eric Boyd and George Krashos who put out the Lord of the End of Everything on the DMs Guild. Eric and George continue to write about the Realms. Despite not writing for WotC in any capacity, Ed gives his blessing towards what they put out. If you have the time, check out the Mages and Sages podcast where Eric and George are often guests alongside Ed and the primary host(s).
Recently just finished a campaign that was set during the time of troubles with a Bhaalspawn as the big bad. Heavily inspired by the lore and a lot of motives and concepts derived from Baldurs Gate 1. Neither me or my players played Baldurs Gate 1 so it was really fun to homebrew it up a bit while still keeping it close to the forgotten realms lore! We all had a blast!
Bhaal, and collection of faerun gods duked it in lore and they merged to form an entity in my world's lore called the traveler. Basically chaos in the form of a god
This is a great topic. I really think Bhaal, Bane, and Myrkul got a raw deal when they got replaced by that Winnie head Cyric. But Bhaal was actually killed by Cyric.
My only experience with Welsh is my name which makes an H sound with 2 L's at the beginning before making an L sound with another pair of L's so it could be anything.
Just recently playing a campaign that ended with my rogue usurping Bhaal as the god of murder. I was actually hoping to acheive that in BG3 and run the murder cult more like the Dark Brotherhood from Elder Scrolls but, meh, cant have everything like how I did it in that campaign.
I am glad you enjoyed that episode despite its rough edges. It technically was the first episode I recorded. And learning about Eilistraee was one of my chief motivators to make episodes.
Well my husband pronounced it "Bail/Bale" and I straight up said No. I told him "Ball" so thank you, I will now be telling him Dungeoncast said I'm right! I just won't be sharing the video so he doesn't start saying 'Buh-hall" out of spite 😂
I think the religion guy is not into all the humour and shenanigans, lol. Every time ball spawn is mentioned he shakes his head. First couple of jokes, he looks like "get me the fuck outta here". Think he's just serious, nothing wrong with that - maybe not the guy for this show though, lol
Ben was actually a lot of fun for us to have on. He may come across as a stoic guy, but he is also passionate about the game and a fantastic creator in the space. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time on the show and we loved having him on.
@@kepler3654 I had a ton of fun. Some folks often misinterpret my reserved personality for disinterest. When I shake my head, it's more like "this is real silly, but I love it."
Y'all need to work with your boy on his presentation skills. I appreciate his interest in the subject matter, but his depth of knowledge did not sound like it warranted an expert status. If he wants to be a recognized authority on FR deities, he needs the direct knowledge of the source material and not just reading wikis. Best of luck to him.
I can tell you that I would never proclaim myself as an expert. Frankly, there are those who are far more read and knowledgeable about the Realms. I am admittedly just a guy who has taken the initiative to create my own show about the gods of the Forgotten Realms. As a result, I have come to know a good deal of information about the gods. Still, I continue to learn about the setting as I go. I have not read much of the novels. But if I need to refer to them for further context in my own research I will do so. Admittedly, William caught me with a few questions on the Moonshae trilogy that I could not answer. At the end of the day, there is a ton of Realms media to consume and I am just one person. I am far more familiar with the sourcebooks. That's where I thrive. William and I decided to let him present what he thought was good for their show rather than I be the main presenter. So I gave as much context as I could accordingly. There was far more we could have touched on but the guys aim for a certain length for their episodes and I wanted to respect that. Perhaps if the guys have me on again, maybe we switch it up. If it is worth anything, I put out my own episode on Bhaal over two years ago: ua-cam.com/video/O-0OPadqiM8/v-deo.html
Guys. This is cool but what happened to the people that actually enjoy the content? The guy from the drizzt episode was great. This dude. He seems to not want to be there. I'm always here and always enthusiastic. HMU ❤
Ben is a dear friend of the show and was actually a lot of fun for us to have on. He may come across as a very stoic individual, but he is also passionate about the game and a fantastic creator in the space. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time on the show and we loved having him and his perspective.
@@Thedungeoncast I get that Ben was very knowledgeable. But the content that was presented was dryer than chalk. It came off strange and slightly forced. Best metaphor I can come up with is "Dr. Frankenstein and Igor trying to resurrect a fish that died a week ago."
@@abergstrom918 And that's fine. I am a reserved person. I hope you are willing to listen to information and find interest in it despite my delivery. I wasn't forcing anything and I enjoyed being on the show with Brian and William.
Just found u guys. Funny as Hell. Gotta downvote this one, and I almost never downvote. Sigil, is not that hard to pronounce with a hard G. I've been doing it for 30 years. You do you of course, but I didn't expect this, and am honestly disappointed. WOTC is destroying the hobby and you want to take a stand on Cook's authorship, it's your hill and your choice.
Ben is a dear friend of the show and was actually a lot of fun for us to have on. He may come across as a very stoic individual, but he is also passionate about the game and a fantastic creator in the space. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time on the show and we loved having him and his perspective.
@@OzzyBoganTech I am not familiar with the reference, but I have a reserved personality. I tend to come off being more serious than I intend. I did not have any hang-ups or regrets coming on the show. I knew full well what I was getting into with Brian and William lol. Maybe if I wasn't as nervous, I could have met them better on their level.
Thanks to Brian and William for having me on. I would definitely like to come on the show again and talk more about Forgotten Realms gods. I would like to address the perception that I may have been disinterested or caught off-guard by the guys' energy. I have a stoic and reserved personality and I know it can make a bad first impression at times. I loved being on the show and I knew what type of humour and shenanigans I would encounter. If you find my presentation dry, I can live with that and I would honestly tell you that my show isn't likely to be your cup of tea. Hopefully what information I bring up is still interesting despite how it is presented.
You did great man, really enjoyed your input and knowledge on the gods 👍
I hope people aren't giving you too much shit.
I have been subbed to your channel for at least a year now and I have loved the wealth of information you have been able to dig up and organize in such an accessible format.
Keep up the fantastic work!
Yeah man no worries, glad to know. I've also been subbed for almost 3 years now, your channels great!
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I honestly don't blame you for the way you're feeling, and I feel as though its not your fault. As a long time watcher of the Dungeoncast, even I have a hard time taking Brian's constant distractions and goofy wordplay as serious content too. As a ttrpg player of about 6 years, something - I'd imagine others like myself would agree - that is hard to deal with is: to talk about fantasy or fictional content without people truly listening or "taking you seriously" when you're trying to talk about it on any intellectual level. It doesn't feel good if you're asking for someone's subjective input or their thoughts on something only to see their eyes glaze over in an attempt to make a joke out of the topic you're trying to put forward. I get that this is a casual space that we can talk about our games and ideas, but we are all here to learn about the game, first and foremost.
Thank you for coming on, Religion of the Realms,
Hope to see you on the show again!
Listening to this in 2024. My dude was spot on about the Absolute!
So Bhaal isn’t life, its the taking of it. Now I will truly be Bhaalin’.
Ooof
Jurgle. Jurgle my Bhaals. That’s how you get bhaal spawn.
This was a good episode, and even though im quite late to this party, i would like to say i think your guest this episode did just fine, and was a fine match for you guys here.
I think the "Ritual Murder" that Bhaal is god of refers more to like, the type of serial killer that has a specific way that they always kill their victims, always take a specific "trophy" from their victims, etc.
Well put.
The Lord of Murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny. Chaos will be sewn from their passage. So sayeth the wise Alaundo.
If I had a gold coin for everyone that said they would kill me I could hire elminster himself to protect me. So sayeth Abdel Adrian.
I just read that in the singing voices of the chanters in Candlekeep. 😅
Big fan of Religion in the Realms, thanks for having him on!
Jergal is my favorite dnd deity. Though there is probably not enough info for him to have his own video I'm happy that he got a mention in this one.
I think William and Brian could cover Jergal easily and it would be a fascinating episode. I covered Jergal a while back. There are some glaring issues with it. But I think it is still informative.
Cyric abused him hard in Prince Of Lies.
my boi didn't deserve such a thing @@IBleedMercuryOfficial
In Baldurs Gate 2 'throne of Bhaal' Cyric was mad and said he didn't want the murder portfolio, so it basically fell on him but when Bhaal came back it probably wasn't difficult for him to re-adopt the portfolio of murder
This poor guy was not ready for the craziness
He is a looong time fan of the show and knows exactly how crazy Brian and I are. Ben is just naturally stoic. It was actually a lot of fun for us to have him on the show.
Brian and William never fail to surprise and make me laugh. William is 100% right. I am not an emotional kind of person. But I knew full well what I was getting into lol.
Wait Knucklebones is just fucking JACKS?
Settling godhood portfolios with JACKS of all things is HILARIOUS
I felt vaguely like I was watching a traditional Wise Guy and Straight Man routine this episode. It was quite fun.
Great co-host! My fav deity for murder is Cyric, he is also my second fav following behind Eilistraee.
Hahaha dude just rolled his eyes I have absolutely rolled my eyes at our boys before. I feel you my guy!
(Rolled my eyes in a loving way, of course. Like you do when your kid tells you a joke his buddy told him at recess ❤)
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I love Ben's content. One of the best resources for a DM who loves to have a game consistent with a pre-established setting are people like him who are the repository of so much lore, and who can see where connections are drawn that might not be explicitly stated in the sources :)
Oh man, your timing is great! I'm running something in Avernus and these three have been in the back of my head for weeks. I want my crew to encounter the three, or the cultists of them and have been working out how. This is a great dive that's really helped form some new ideas. I GOTA add Malar in the mix now.
Just dropping by the you tube to show some love been listening to you guys during work after discovering you on Spotify, thank you for hours of entertainment.
P.s. shoutout demogorgon
Jergal is doing much more than just trying to resurrect his people
The timeline the Spellweavers came from, possibly the same one the LaShay and Mindflayers originated from, was erased
They’re also the ones who first created the obelisks that we see replicas of throughout 5e
Ed Greenwood has man a lot of cryptic posts about Jergal, and also published Lord of The End of Everything on DMs guild
I’d love to see a video on Jergal
It was Ed's good friends and former Realms writers Eric Boyd and George Krashos who put out the Lord of the End of Everything on the DMs Guild. Eric and George continue to write about the Realms. Despite not writing for WotC in any capacity, Ed gives his blessing towards what they put out. If you have the time, check out the Mages and Sages podcast where Eric and George are often guests alongside Ed and the primary host(s).
Just finished the cinema jaw ep, loved it. Fantastic reviews, I totally agree!
Here from Baldur's Gate 3. Great video! Thanks! Will definitely be checking out "Religion in the Realms"
Recently just finished a campaign that was set during the time of troubles with a Bhaalspawn as the big bad. Heavily inspired by the lore and a lot of motives and concepts derived from Baldurs Gate 1. Neither me or my players played Baldurs Gate 1 so it was really fun to homebrew it up a bit while still keeping it close to the forgotten realms lore! We all had a blast!
Its Jergal because of Nergal. Mesopotamian godnpf death, pestilence and whatnot.
you guys are killing me with the Bhaal-spawn! So childish and so damn funny!
Excellent episode! I hope religion of the Realms guy returns he was fun! Also shout out to demogorgon and his ixitxachitls homie!!
Bhaal, and collection of faerun gods duked it in lore and they merged to form an entity in my world's lore called the traveler. Basically chaos in the form of a god
Pretty sure it's pronounced "Buh-All" which is the name of an old middle-eastern diety named Ba'al.
This is a great topic. I really think Bhaal, Bane, and Myrkul got a raw deal when they got replaced by that Winnie head Cyric. But Bhaal was actually killed by Cyric.
Brian needs to do a whole episode talking like Bane.
My only experience with Welsh is my name which makes an H sound with 2 L's at the beginning before making an L sound with another pair of L's so it could be anything.
That guy Ben didn't look impressed at all😂😂
He comes across a bit stoic, but Ben is a big fan of the show. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time and we loved having him on.
@@Thedungeoncast that's great news! I was just watching his expressions and got a little worried. You guys rock!
@@coreypacillo8204 It's a mix of my stoic personality and nerves. I knew full well what I getting myself into and enjoyed being on the show.
Just recently playing a campaign that ended with my rogue usurping Bhaal as the god of murder. I was actually hoping to acheive that in BG3 and run the murder cult more like the Dark Brotherhood from Elder Scrolls but, meh, cant have everything like how I did it in that campaign.
As a two-decades long Baldur's Gate player the pronounciation "Buh-all" physically aches me. 😅
One day Demogorgon is going to send you guys a body guard. For you have spread his legend to many. Bane will weasel his way into godhood again.
Hell yeah, Bhaal!
i’ve read every book they mentioned o.o and i remember them vividly
I love diggy's video on Eliestree
I am glad you enjoyed that episode despite its rough edges. It technically was the first episode I recorded. And learning about Eilistraee was one of my chief motivators to make episodes.
@@religionintherealms Eilistraee is my fave goddess (minus the blackface thing we'll chalk that up to the times) your video is super comprehensive
I wanna know what the joke Brian held back at 13:36 was lmao
From what I've seen, Knuckle bones is a game kind of like jacks.
Looking forward to Ben's vid on Talonna(?). One of those evil gods that doesn't get utilized enough
I am close to recording the Talona episode. Should be coming out soon enough.
I'd love to see more on the Orc pantheon
Did someone say MURDER!!!! Who else gets this reference
The bone throne 😂
As always, shout out to Demogorgon
I thought Bhaal was pronounced like pal.
Gnome pantheon!
I dunno this Lord of Murder might just be misunderstood
BG2 game pronounces it as it sounds like “ball”.
Well my husband pronounced it "Bail/Bale" and I straight up said No. I told him "Ball" so thank you, I will now be telling him Dungeoncast said I'm right! I just won't be sharing the video so he doesn't start saying 'Buh-hall" out of spite 😂
B ah ll. Not ball, tf is wrong with you people?
Cymrych Hugh is pronounced "Cum-Ric Hoo"... I know, i'm not improving the situation at all....
I think your cameras need just a LITTLE BIT more depth of field. I can almost see colors behind you. Can't have that. 😂
Be careful guys, if they pin it on you you’ll be paying 18 years worth of Bhaal-spawn support! Wrap that holy avenger! #aintmybhaalspawn
The wiki legit says it is said SIG-il. Not Sijil. Soooo. Ima keep saying SIG-il lol
If you think about it aren't we all ball spawn?
I think the religion guy is not into all the humour and shenanigans, lol. Every time ball spawn is mentioned he shakes his head. First couple of jokes, he looks like "get me the fuck outta here". Think he's just serious, nothing wrong with that - maybe not the guy for this show though, lol
Ben was actually a lot of fun for us to have on. He may come across as a stoic guy, but he is also passionate about the game and a fantastic creator in the space. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time on the show and we loved having him on.
@@Thedungeoncast He knows his stuff and is clearly passionate. Glad he had a good time.
@@kepler3654 I had a ton of fun. Some folks often misinterpret my reserved personality for disinterest. When I shake my head, it's more like "this is real silly, but I love it."
@@religionintherealms I get it. I'd be a complete wreck in front of the camera, I don't know how you remain so calm and cool 😎 keep being you, dude!
...cause in the end.... We are all Ball Spawn or Bhaal Spahn or....
Don't Jergal us around ok?
It's pronounced bay-all
i pronounce it bale or bhale
I always pronounced it a little rounder at the back of the throat. Like Molly. Not that it matters, just sayin' lol.
Omgigod get me right
Y'all need to work with your boy on his presentation skills. I appreciate his interest in the subject matter, but his depth of knowledge did not sound like it warranted an expert status. If he wants to be a recognized authority on FR deities, he needs the direct knowledge of the source material and not just reading wikis. Best of luck to him.
I can tell you that I would never proclaim myself as an expert. Frankly, there are those who are far more read and knowledgeable about the Realms. I am admittedly just a guy who has taken the initiative to create my own show about the gods of the Forgotten Realms. As a result, I have come to know a good deal of information about the gods. Still, I continue to learn about the setting as I go. I have not read much of the novels. But if I need to refer to them for further context in my own research I will do so. Admittedly, William caught me with a few questions on the Moonshae trilogy that I could not answer. At the end of the day, there is a ton of Realms media to consume and I am just one person. I am far more familiar with the sourcebooks. That's where I thrive.
William and I decided to let him present what he thought was good for their show rather than I be the main presenter. So I gave as much context as I could accordingly. There was far more we could have touched on but the guys aim for a certain length for their episodes and I wanted to respect that. Perhaps if the guys have me on again, maybe we switch it up. If it is worth anything, I put out my own episode on Bhaal over two years ago: ua-cam.com/video/O-0OPadqiM8/v-deo.html
I think this video's just a bunch of Bhaal-ogna 😜
I'm sad that you guys couldn't mix the bhaal/ball jokes with a "deez nuts" joke
Actual it’s pronounced Hal. The B is silent.
So..... Hal 9000?
And no its not.
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Guys. This is cool but what happened to the people that actually enjoy the content? The guy from the drizzt episode was great. This dude. He seems to not want to be there. I'm always here and always enthusiastic. HMU ❤
Not hating on this man. I know he had to be stressed. It's the fn dungeon cast
Ben is a dear friend of the show and was actually a lot of fun for us to have on. He may come across as a very stoic individual, but he is also passionate about the game and a fantastic creator in the space. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time on the show and we loved having him and his perspective.
@@Thedungeoncast I get that Ben was very knowledgeable. But the content that was presented was dryer than chalk. It came off strange and slightly forced. Best metaphor I can come up with is "Dr. Frankenstein and Igor trying to resurrect a fish that died a week ago."
@@abergstrom918 And that's fine. I am a reserved person. I hope you are willing to listen to information and find interest in it despite my delivery. I wasn't forcing anything and I enjoyed being on the show with Brian and William.
BuH hAaL
Just found u guys. Funny as Hell. Gotta downvote this one, and I almost never downvote. Sigil, is not that hard to pronounce with a hard G. I've been doing it for 30 years. You do you of course, but I didn't expect this, and am honestly disappointed. WOTC is destroying the hobby and you want to take a stand on Cook's authorship, it's your hill and your choice.
I want to leave a like but as of posting this comment the likes are at 666 and I don't want to ruin that
The special guest throws you off your normal banter and atmosphere. Sorry, he isn’t funny and is not a good fit
If you take this stuff that seriously you have some deep problems 😂
Ben is a dear friend of the show and was actually a lot of fun for us to have on. He may come across as a very stoic individual, but he is also passionate about the game and a fantastic creator in the space. Trust us when we say, he actually had a really good time on the show and we loved having him and his perspective.
@@Thedungeoncast he definitely reminded me of the guy that collects pins in the Terry Pratchett books lol 🤣
@@OzzyBoganTech I am not familiar with the reference, but I have a reserved personality. I tend to come off being more serious than I intend. I did not have any hang-ups or regrets coming on the show. I knew full well what I was getting into with Brian and William lol. Maybe if I wasn't as nervous, I could have met them better on their level.
@@religionintherealms it's all good I promise I am not being disrespectful about pins or fictional gods lol 🤣.
This "Religion in the Realms" dude is soooooooooooooo dull. I can't finish this video.