What did the Arabs Think about the Vikings?
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- The Vikings met the Arabs in two main locations during the Viking Age, Al-Andalus, the Muslim kingdom in Iberia, the modern-day countries of Spain and Portugal, as well as in Eastern Europe along the rivers of Russia and Ukraine. But what did these Arabs think about the heathen Norsemen they encountered?
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If the Arabs saw the Norse as filthy, I wonder what they would have thought of the British who saw the Norse as vain and too focused on personal hygiene.
British (derogatory)
Even know most Arabs see European filthy by not using water and soap on the butt after number 2.
Wait seriously? I had no idea that's how the British viewed the norse
Where do you get this from ?
@@fuscian Anglo-saxon chronicler John of Wallingford, among other ancient sources.
As an Arab and an informative "UA-camr", the fact that you include the Arabic writings of the names and shedding spotlight on our deep and complex region really amazes me, well done!
he's Arab himself lol
I second this, I love to see the real names of people and places but they’re usually translated into English nowadays. Not saying I’d rather decipher it myself but have an English and their real name would be nice as the standard for all education channels.
I'd like him to say Muslims more then arabs
Because we achieved all that success when we were real Muslims and true believers when we was united as Allah want us to be when was no difference between all human races except how much strength of your believe in Allah inside your heart
My friend, in this era that we live in, you see only Arabs and you do not see Muslims, because all the true Muslims died, only a few remain, and all that remains for the Arabs is history about a people they called Muslims, and they feared nothing but God. These people were able to defeat the Roman Kingdom, the Persian Kingdom and the Kingdom of The Mongols and the Spanish and Portuguese kingdoms and defeated the Vikings
We don't have the right to say that's arab history cuz arab have no history
Although I'm Arab
@@ahunter107 Considering my ancestors were oppressed by the arab muslims, FU
@@ahunter107 you simply didn't read any history. You just repeating what you've heard
your arabic is surprisingly well, almost unheard of that a western person can pronounce arab words to this accuracy
Is her a western person!?
@@napolien1310 Hilbert is a male and I believe an ethnic Frisian (a type of Netherlander) living in the U.K., so yes.
Bruh, everyone Who learnt arab can pronnounce It perfectly if they train, look for example to Western muslims the have to ready and pronnounce the Quran.
Or Arabs pronunciation of islandic
@@erikjohnson9223 Half frisian no?
Would love a video about how the Norse saw the Islamic world. This was such a well presented history lesson full of interesting information and sighting sources. Thanks
Yeah
Wouldn’t that be a tall order considering we barely know how the Norse saw the Norse world
@@y11971alex
You mean converts in seville? Or in muslim lands?
@@snowmoon7385 huh?
Norse converts in Seville
@@maddogbasil
There were some who wrre captrd in war in coast n settled in caliphate not in sevile hut nearby...
*ibn fadhlan didn't say 'blonde', he said 'moghr', the closest translation is redhead*
He referred to them as red people because blonde people are modern descriptions of Europeans. Arabs used to call Europeans the red people, the sons of the red, or Romans, which are the most popular, even in holy scripts. Turks and Eastern Asians are called yellow people.
@@IssacAlgizani
I know that but the word he used is to describe hair color,its a between redhead and blonde
@@IssacAlgizaniThe Turks are not called the yellow people. The Turks are called the ones with small eyes, because the original Turks are the ones with small eyes, like Turkestan, and they are brothers of the Chinese, the Mongols, the Japanese, and so on. As for what is called Turkey after the seventies, they are not original Turks They are the Arabs of Kabu Bakr and Rabia of the Quraishi, the Hittite Arabs, the original inhabitants of Turkey, the Arabs of Thamud who became extinct, as well as the Armenians on the northern side. There are the Greek Trojans in some of its regions and a minority of Turks, and they are the ones who resemble the Mongols, that is, indigenous Turks, but only a minority in what is called Turkey because it is not originally Turkish land. Nor are its people authentically Turkish . They adopted the title of Turks because they are the last country that remained under the Turkish Caliphate.
The Muslims from that era were some of the most honest and best record keepers. It might be lost in translation but I'm most certain that there are no lies.
In those days the Muslims were only arabs
Bro, can I just say, the sheer effort and commitment you put into trying to pronounce all the foreign words in your videos as correctly as possible is amazing! As a linguistics nerd, I truly appreciate that.
Yeah that really caught my attention, great pronunciation
I find it interesting that no-one appears to have considered that the narrator may be an Englishman of Arabic/Muslim extraction.
@@williambolton4698 Sounds unlikely when the dude's name is Hilbert, but I guess nothing's impossible ^^
I was literally about to write a comment about 2:17 saying this. I honestly don't think it's fair to expect people who don't know a language to pronounce things as natives would, but I appreciate that he went the extra mile for it.
@@wariyoshidirector Exactly! Of course I wouldn't expect non-natives to be able to pronounce Arabic, or any foreign language for that matter, perfectly, but it really ticks me off when I see creators not even at least trying, so Hilbert is definitely a nice change of pace ^^
It’s as fascinating as the interactions between the Chinese and the Romans and Greeks.
You should a video on that topic lol
The Chinese never interacted with the Romans.
@@nomanor7987 bruh they did in Roman Syria
@Abdulaziz Mohammed noice
@@nomanor7987 no , they were well aware of each other...
"It is possible Ibn Fadlan exaggerated the filthy bathing practices"
Probably not. Mixing spit was a sign of fidelity and brotherhood, the same as mixing blood. Even to this day, you are supposed to spit in your hand before shaking on a deal at a Scandinavian cattle or horse fair. It is a truly ancient custom, most famously described when the Aesir and Vanir sealed the peace treaty after the first war by all spitting in a great cauldron, from which beer and poetry were later derived.
Interesting point and well spotted. May have been a religious ritual.
You don't understand how much Arabs focus on hygiene and cleanness.
The guy was really defensive in this video.
@@juzores1 He like to downplay arabs account if it has bit of negativity about vikings. Like, even france with its beautiful architecture have shite everywhere even on the building, on the street, everywhere. Victorian era were not so much different in terms of hygiene.
To be fair the Arabs at their height described any place they disliked or disrespected as “filthy”, so there might be some exaggeration here
Really fascinating stuff! Being a Norwegian, it's very interesting to hear how the vikings were perceived by others than the typical sources
I d like to see what vikings think of arabs
@@snowmoon7385 We thought they were a good income source!
@@MrBlue-dm5li
The whole encounter of vikings with muslims be in rus or in coasts of spain were hilarious...
I am arab and live in norway
@@Aurmm How do you perceive Norwegians?
While I appreciate the creator of this content, I’m a bit disappointed that he failed to mention that the Vikings were defeated in all of their raids on Iberia, this is very important fact to be mentioned since the bulk of the Arabic Andalusian writings about the Vikings were about the details of the Arab success in repelling these raids, it's important to know the context from which these quotes come
He is trying hard to whitewash his ancestors like all orientalists before him. What do you expect from European except lies and deceive
yes, however they took Sicily from the Arabs
@@DubK-ww6xj
That was the Normans, not actual genuine Vikings.
@@joellaz9836 Vikings / Normans are the same thing the only difference is a few centuries and by the time they were called Normans they had already become Christians, in addition the terms Norman and Viking meant the same thing Norman derived from the Latin languages and the Viking term derived from the Nordic languages but in themselves they are the same thing
@@DubK-ww6xj no they're not. culturally, and religiously different for 100 years, at that point, they wont see themself the same pagan as their ancestor are. we're talking about the viking with the nordic culture and fascinating pagan religion here, not the christian norman who basically have the same culture with other christian civilization in europe.
For a guy named Hilbert, your Arabic is amazing :o
Umm it's ali hilbert muhammed son of Hassan ali
you are so good in pronouncing arabic
as an arab i had no idea about the authors or the books and sources that you mentioned
its so informative this videos of yours
thank you so much
Wow nice as an arab I am impressed od how well you pronounced the Arab names and letters very well .
he's Arab
I'm pretty sure you are using a Turk as pf
@@shakalalalalkh1098 yeah true but he is a Muslim I love dirilis ertugrul do you watch it ??
@@shakalalalalkh1098 so?
@Allah change your username.
Ibn Fadlan is one of the best story writters in the whole history. He could describe very detail information about other practices in different cultures. I still read his stories and memories, they are amazing I cant stop it.
I love these sort of videos that talk about how different peoples interacted. Very keen to see you do more!
Alhamdulilah , for more than 1400 years Islam has taught people how to live like human and not animals , if you are not muslim i feel bad for you may allah guide you all to the righteous path🤍
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I read about the Vikings from the British perspective, I’m glad to get the Arab perspective because they are a writing people from a long time ago. I believe what the Arabs wrote and accept it as written because it’s a consistent impression of the Vikings with what I’ve seen elsewhere. Its annoying when people try to change history to fit their preferred ideas to flatter those that they like and tear down those that they don’t like; that’s why I wish more peoples wrote and find it sad that they destroyed so much written history (burning of the library of Alexandria), the more perspectives the greater the possibility for accuracy. Based on what I’ve seen elsewhere I was actually surprised that they washed at all, though washing in filth might be the same as not washing at all to some people. I find the history interesting because of how scornful, shaming and superior Europeans tend to act towards other people.
You're a person of truth my friend.there's a Swedish telling a short historical summary between both.look up for the video when the Muslims meet the Vikings
sadly, until today, the winner writes the history.
...and burning of dar el hikma librery of Baghdad by the Mongols and the burning and looting of the Baghdad museum that held many old/ancient manuscripts during the American invasion of Iraq and later isis that burned the libraries of Mosul with thousands of manuscripts
I believe one of the most horrendous atrocity committed by the mongolians was the burning of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, so much text and knowledge lost to the fires.
History is but a work of fiction. Europeans have always been on top. They just write these fairy tales to make other races feel better about themselves and have hope.
I have always been interested I'm Arab and Muslim history however a lot of people give it such a negative stigma. Thankfully my sister went to school with a majority of Muslims so she's willing to discuss the topic with me. She has also taught me a bit about the culture.
May Allah guide you
Well for the account of the respect ibn showed I wonder why ?
@@stagthechainsawbeserker3926 he admittedly said the truth
@@stagthechainsawbeserker3926 to be completely fair, Middle East's standards of cleanliness were high. With having Running water and sewer system. Plus taking baths once a week and using communal bowls are considered clean to Western Europe's standards.
As an Arab myself, your pronunciation is phenomenal
ليس كل من تحدث العربيه عربي غالبا انت لست عربي جرب تسوي Dan لان كثير ناس للاسف خصوصا في شمال افريقيا يدعون العروبه والنسب الهاشمي وعندما يعمل DNA يكتشف انه ليس عربي ولى حتى واحد بالميه
@@user-D7oom كول خرا أنا من لبنان يا قلبي
@@user-D7oom شمال افريقيا عربية يا كربوز، سير بكي
@@user-D7oomNA tests from companies like MyHeritage and 23 and me that are manipulated by by the the zionist party and the US government ? Yeah no thanks, I would prefer unification 1Million times over division, plus how the hell did spanish have words with Arabic origins if they weren’t there in that area. And let us not forget that the Maghrebi dialect is actually pretty easy to understand if you have basic knowledge in Quranic Arabic wich most of people do not plus understanding the spanish and french slangs .
@@KarimKhldi لا اعلم لماذا تغضب اذا قلت هل كونك عربي سيجعلك انسان مميز او انت تشعر ان العرب عرق اعلى من عرقك الفينيقي لهذا تدعي العروبه 🤭
As an Arab; I found this video incredibly interesting. And btw your pronunciation of Arabic words and names is really good!
قناة السبيل عملوا حلقة كرتونية عن رحلة بن فضلان
@Qe Qa كيف فضحتك ما فهمت؟ تحسبني مب عربي ولا وش هههههه؟
@@Melia_67أنا احب اهل الامارات
Fascinating thanks for another great history lesson Hilbert ☺️
14:54 Though the city of Barda is currently in the Republic of Azerbaijan the region wasn't known by this name back then, the name Azerbaijan was for the region south of the river Aras , what is now Republic of Azerbaijan was known as Caucasian Albania, Arran, and Aran and Shirvan.
Ali, i dont think albania was a caucasian though the race of albanians identified as White caucasian and though the majority are muslims. Albania is a south european country or west balkan known as recently.
@@blerimlila5893 You're confusing modern day nation of Albania with Caucasian Albania. Albania is an exonym with Latin origin which means "mountains land" or something. Albanians themselves call their country " Shqipëri". Also didn't get the meaning of Caucasian here, here it means from the region of Caucasus and had nothing to do with the racial term Caucasoid or Caucasian white.
In ancient times the name Albania and Iberia were used for to state in the Caucasus, stuck between the various Iranian empires and the Roman Empire to the west. and south. While Iberia was one of the early Georgian nations, Caucasian Albania was home to a people whose language was related to modern Chechens. The region of Caucasian Albania was first Persianized and then Turkified, mostly becoming the modern day republic of Azerbaijan. Nowadays a small population of Christians called the Udi people still live in the Republic of Azerbaijan whose language is similar to Caucasian Albanian.
Fun fact, the word "magic" also comes from the word "majus"
I am from Ukrainian Celtic region Galicia. According to my own investigation the Arabic sources know only Swedish Rus Vikings! These Swedish Vikings were the Celtic tribe Sitoni-Svei who originated from the territory of Scythia, previously right bank of Dnipro river
There is a book by Michael Crichton, "Eaters of the Dead" (and a film "The !3th Warrior" loosely based on the book) which, while fiction, makes use of the real-life historical document you note, the account by Ahmed Ibn Fahdlan, the Arab poet, of his travels north to the Viking lands in the 10th century. Crichton states the major inspiration for his book were Ibn Fahdlan's work and the Anglo Saxon poem "Beowulf." In the film version, Ibn Fahdlan, played by Antonio Banderas, is the POV character. The book is an interesting read. The film does a good job of juxtaposing the two cultures. While it did poorly at the box office, those fans of the current spate of Viking dramas on offer on the various streaming services might want to give this film a look -- ditto fans of Antonio Banderas. You might recognize Crichton as the author of the books "The Andromeda Strain" and "Jurassic Park" on which the respective films are based.
That movie is epic and nicely done
That movie is so underrated and under-appreciated. Love the reveal that the Grendel are just a bunch of surviving neanderthals and I lost it when i realized an Arab and some Vikings made them go extinct, for good.
One of my favorite films
I love that movie.
It's a combination of the manuscript of Achmed Ibn Fadlan and the epic Poem of Beowulf.
He wrote it on a bet with a fellow professor.
Good job Hilbert, as an Arab this was informative
I would just say that we should give more credit to the ability of these writers to differentiate between cultural norms and understanding reality, such as what ibn fadlan mentioned about the Russ spitting in the same bowl that they used to clean themselves, this is pretty straightforward imo
This is sick, would love to see more! Under York Minster there's a big elephant tusk that was gifted to the vikings by and carved by islamic people, would love to hear more about it
you sound like such a cool person by the way
Great video man, makes me wanna re-make my own vids about the Vikings and the Islamic world!
Interesting, thanks. Keep it up, with how the Vikings thought of the Arabs.
Sadly Vikings didn’t write books.
@@yassine073t Quite right. Much like is the case with tribal people around the world they mostly told and preserved stories by telling their children while a few wealthy vikings could afford to have rune stones erected as a lasting legacy of somebody's adventurous life. For obvious reasons nothing particularly long and elaborate could be told on these rune stones just the main factors.
The main factor here is that the monks were preservers of knowledge, history and science in Europe at that time and there were none of those in Scandinavia until those countries became wholly Christian. Pagan practices, stories and rulers were abandoned and only kept alive through stories in rural communities, mostly in the far north, where they became sagas and legends. Keeping the two apart was difficult which is why some of the stories either are completely made up or "improved upon" over the centuries.
It's possible that there were viking "scholars" who were eager to learn about the science, discoveries and knowledge of other cultures but these were sadly forgotten in history because those rural people who maintained the legends by word of mouth through the generations obviously didn't understand science or knowledge and only kept the "legendary adventurer" stories. So any viking "Plato" would have been reduced to a malevolent schemer much like Loki the norse god of mischief and tricks.
Many arabs academic wrote about Arabs and others races such as Ibn Khaldon he was the founder of social science and other... He was very professional
Excellent video!
Very thorough and well-researched.
Thank you Hilbert.
Hygiene never was a big thing for Europeans in general. The first soap shop in England was opened during Queen Victoria time by a Muslim. Muslims always since crusades mentioned poor hygiene of Europeans
😂😂 what are you talking about? Modern Soap was manufactured in Britain From the 1500s and the first manufacturer was in Bristol and he wasn't a Muslim. Before that different kinds of soaps were made in Britain from the 11th century. Romans were using soap in their baths from the first century. Tell me where are the ancient bath houses in the middle East? Muslims eat with their fingers and don't wipe their ass so they're the last people to talk about hygiene
Medieval Europeans of central Europe, perhaps. But you don't need great hygiene when you live in a very sparsely inhabited land like the Norse did. It only becomes crucial if you live in densely populated regions to avoid diseases easily spreading.
That's bull. Total BS. I don't know about soap shops, but they made soap going far back into prehistory. While some may not have _bathed_ in tubs of water, that doesn't mean they didn't _wash._ In fact, they often put fragrant herbs and flowers in their wash basins, and stored them with their spare clothes and bed linens. There were bathhouses in much of medieval Europe. They went out of favor when the pope ruled against them because some were used for prostitution. It's also written of Vikings going into England in the 800s that the local women were impressed with them, how clean they were and how neatly they combed their hair. People have always liked beauty and always had noses. There's a lot of ignorance that's been parading as history, and it's unsupported garbage. Quit clogging your brain with it.
@BekGrou PRIMUS It's not lies it's according to their own historians even lol Why you feel ashamed? Civilisations were not always equal
@@theancientsancients1769 mate I've already humiliated your earlier comment. Why did you even come back? 😂😂 You can't cite any middle Eastern bathhouses from the first century.
England literally has a town named bath in the 2nd century. We were manufacturing modern soap in the 1500s and you think a Muslim opened the first soap shop in the 1700s.
Oh you're hysterical.
"These people keep burning our shit but they also give us REALLY good deals."
Yknow, what everyone thought of the vikings, really.
Placing the commentary in context shows insight, and is appreciated.
you have the best Arabic pronunciation I've seen on a non-Arab. Good on ya hilbert
A reverse video would definitely be interesting. Great video! 👍
Did the vikings leave any writing records?
By the way (Arabic to English)
Yahya=John
Dawood=David
Nuh=Noah
Ibrahim=Abraham
Is'haq=Isaac
Ya'qub=Jacob
Zachariah=Zachary
those are the most common "English" names which are also common Arabic names. They are names of prophets before Muhammed.
Peace and blessings upon them all.
Ayoub = Job
Jibril = Gabriel
Musa = Moses
Issa = Jesus
Yusuf = Joseph
Suleiman = Solomon
3:50 this guy spoke in that book about discovering the place of Gog and Magog, an interesting subject for a video if you will.
This was rather interesting, a video about how the norse saw the muslims and islam would also be cool.
The norse were mostly illiterate savages, there wouldn't be as much to go on....
@@pierzing.glint1sh76 what about runestones or the sagas?
I don't think the Vikings kept written records.
Some converted to Islam
@@pacco1737 saw something of a viking artifact that had Allah written on it
I would love a series on the ancient and up to modern day Arab world
That would be hard to do or perhaps impossible to do because Vikings didn’t really record much of their journeys or their lifestyle. That’s why there’s those people from other cultures describing them and writing about them. We mostly hear about the negative side of Vikings because those who wrote about them hated the Vikings because of their ruthlessness like families of people who were killed by them, or people who were raided by them.
@@irishl3403 Al-Fadlan was sent on a diplomatic mission to Volga-Bulgaria and just happened to come across the Vikings.
I don't think he had anything against them..
@iris HL
Not really.
The Anglos thought the Vikings were clean (because they were even worse when it came to hygiene).
Ibn Fadhlan was on a diplomatic experience to Vulga Bulgaria. He only met the Russ Vikings because his guide made a mistake on their way back to Baghdad.
As a muslim arabian i know that ahmed ibn fadlan talks about them,
but i didn't know that also Al Ghazal had talks about them, thanks i should know more about my history
+your video was great
Fun fact: Ibn al-Qutiyyah name means ( Son of the Gothic woman).
How are you so sure?
@@yassine073t He’s as sure as that as I’m sure you are Amazighi also Quti means gothic
@@yassine073t
As a arabic speaker it's very clear. His name was ابن القوطية and the word قوطية Qutiyyah comes from القوط Al-Qutt the Arabic name that has given to the visigoths in Iberia.
جدته قوطية لكنه عربي
that's right
Vikings: you may think tradition such as burning a girl alive and eating porks as barbaric, but at least we didnt bury the death person in the ground
Ibn-Fadhlan: WHAT
Vikings: What?
Lol...damn that was past..now ppl are changed.
@@snowmoon7385 sure man, but we muslim still bury dead people in the ground lol
@@hando4880
M muslim from asia...i was talkinh about them lol...everytime i see viking culture reminds of funny encounters ....
eating pork isn't barbaric, pork is a tasty meat
@@bm_wuratli6883 can you cite sources
as arab im amazed of your capability of spelling those arabian words, your arabic language as a non-arab is perfect
Perfect upload timing. Im at a viking festival here in iceland.
5:20 if they were down south on the volga dressed the way they were i have begun to realize that was NOT their normal attire. They were not wearing tunics or caftans because they were too damn hot to be wearing more than half a layer.
1:42 "Arab Scimitars brought the new religion"
sorry to be pedantic I'm pretty sure the Scimitar was introduced either by the Turks or the Mongols. the Umayyad wouldn't have used Scimitars, neither would the Abbasid's.
additionally Arab conquest of north Africa and the middle east didn't result in immediate mass conversion of the populous to Islam, the process was multi generational.
Yes. Even in tenth century Fatimid Egypt's population was largely Christian coptic.
@Mr Wonder Aye, but Islam's hatred of Jews is bold and clear too in their holy book, and in the modern day
@Mr Wonder Aye, so it makes sense why they were expelled 117 times I guess
It's worth mentioning that while not violent, conversion was largely due to treating non Muslims as second class "citizens"
That’s true for example the Ummayeds in Sham/Syria, their capital was Damascus they ruled over a majority Christian population maybe up to 80% was still Christian.
We have a rich history in the Middle-East spanning thousand of years, you can tell tales & stories for years to come, as much as European tales are fascinating, if the Middle-East was given a proper inspection, tons of people would be intrigued
Yes it is true. Unfortunately most Muslims don't care for there pagan past, and prefer to wash it away as if it never happened
I'm a linguistics major who has been wanting to learn more about Arab culture and especially languages of the Middle Eastern and African worlds, as they are not talked about hardly at all in modern history (especially Africa). I really appreciate the project you have started and the coincidence that it is going on in this time of my life.
Its defintely an underappreciated culture. Most of the world just looks at the greek/roman history and then europe, and japan for some odd reason.
I guess everyone wants to be a samurai!
don't even bother learn Arabic , the classical Arabic is what we learn from school but we speak with accents , a Yemeni can understand 50% of what a Saudi speaks , an Iraqi understands 10% of what an Egyptians says , and Morocco , ooh Moroccans don't speak Arabic they are lying , no Arabic man can understand them
@@MM-pk3rl can't all or most (educated) arabs talk to each other in classical arabic?
@@Rostam.ll arabs communicate in Arabic with each other, of course sometimes we change local slang words to more formal ones based on the person’s knowledge of our dialect. Different dialects is never a problem for us natives, personally I feel like foreigners are quite good as well, but I understand if a non Arabs finds it hard
Edit: not only educated even old illiterate people and literally everyone can communicate in Arabic. One might find it hard if two people from the same country talk to each other then yes you have to have some knowledge about the spoken dialect to be able to fully understand, but if they’re talking to you then you can easily communicate
@@MM-pk3rl
I don’t know how old you are but I’m guessing you’re very young. How on earth does an Iraqi understand just 10% of Egyptian Arabic?! You are so sooo wrong. Do you think we need a translator when we go to Egypt? Do you not know we watch Egyptian shows a lot and understand 100% of what is being said. How does a Yemeni now understand Saudi wth do you know how many Yemenis live in Saudi, do you think they go to school and learn the Saudi dialect? Lmao please… also Moroccan accent is hard because it wasn’t famous, people are now getting more familiar with it, it’s not very hard just different
I'm not Muslim. But I'd like to say the expression "Arab scimitars brought the new religion.." is misleading. Islam was mainly spread peacefully by traders not at sword point. I take your comment to refer to the military expansion of the Caliphate but it could be misconstrued as the spread of the religion.
Initially, Islam WAS spread through war and conquest. It was spread through conquest throughout the middle east, Iberia and Persia. It was spread through trade in indonesian and Malaysia and east Africa.
@@javnok9266 well saying that the religion was spread is misleading because it implies large-scale forced conversion. It doesn't distinguish between people's personal religious convictions and the polity known as the Caliphate which was a multi-fath society. I'm pushing back on this because that sort of framing can be misunderstood by racists to paint the Muslim community as an expansionist force that needs to be stopped. I laid out all of these distinctions in my original post. Plz read ppl's comments comprehensively before responding to rhem.
I appreciate Aḥmad ibn Faḍlān for his excellent records, he'd be very sad to see how Baghdad is today 🇮🇶
May your soul rest in peace 🙏🏻
Nothing exaggerated about the vikings all washing, spitting and blowing their noses into the same bowl. You can see this in western films and programs on them. Secondly Arab Muslims were light years ahead in terms of cleanliness, medicine and taking care or themselves than any Europeans. This isnt an exaggeration from the arabs. This was fact for a long time
Yet Scandinavia is notably cleaner than any Arab country. Well at least where the actual Scandinavians live. Areas where Arabs and Africans live tend to more run down which speaks volumes. Things don't change that much.
Native Middle Easterners in general only viewed Greeks And Roman's in a positive light while they viewed other Europeans as below them
More precisely, we saw the Persians and the Romans as the dominant rulers in the region, and there was no room for comparison between us and them.
But after Islam and the start of the conquests, everything changed
Muslim scholars had most respect for the ancient Greeks specifically the philosophers like Plato, Socrates and alike.
We thought so because that’s the truth, other peoples in Europe were certainly levels below them, and just like in Europe, in the Arab world most regions that weren’t Romanized/Hellenized were shit. Arabs themselves - particularly Nabataeans and later Ghassanids, were quite invested in Roman affairs, and thus Syria was in good shape come the Islamic Caliphate.
@Heracles A.
Well that's ironic
@@yaroubthayer-752 Yeah well at least greeks and romans don't suicide bomb people.
You can see alot of these info included in the great movie "The 13th Warrior" starring Antonio Banderas. As an arab who sails with Beowulf and the vikings back to Scandinavia. There is even a scene about the bowl of spit and dirty water that goes around the men to wash with. As an Arab who was raised up in Sweden I find this video utterly intersting and well done. And you arabic pronunciation is on point. You should read some of the Quran, you will find it very intersting. There is so much history written there. Great channel. Subbed and liked. 👍
Interesting collection of testimonies. Usually the account from Ibn Fadlan is the one that is most popular, so I appreciated the others from Al turtushi for example
Your Arabic pronunciation was superb
You should do about the Normans in Spain. Roger de Tosny being a famous one.
There was also a Norman Principality in Iberia: Principality of Tarragona
This was super cool. I support the idea of doing another one in the other direction.
I'd love to see more videos about contacts between cultures you don't usually hear about, and especially perspectives you rarely hear
I think two warrior cultures will respect eachother on some level no matter what
A Viking man can impress women by demonstrating how he takes his longship up a canal to deliver seeds which can be planted in fertile places.
@Black Lesbian Poet well prophet muhammad peace be upon him told us to do so so you are correct on the muslim side idk about the vikings
@Black Lesbian Poet Cringe af
@@brandoncook6190 Any idea what the "Black Lesbian Poet" said to incite this response?
There isa blunder here. Early Arab armies did NOT use scimitars, they used straight swords. Scimitars became the fashion after the conquest of the Sind.
There was no Conquest
It was self defense
@@maalikserebryakov dude they attacked sindh killed, ra*ed and looted sindh. Sindh was not attacking arabia at that time
@@usamabhanbhro6482 no thats not true, all of our enemies and competition in this modern day try to make it look like the islamic conquest was horrible, which is not true.
@@ladyessi I'm a Muslim from sindh dude, I've lived my entire life in sindh. Please don't teach me my own history
Scimitar initially came from central asia
“Dude, they have straight swords…”
- Arabs perhaps.
yes. Their words arent gay.
@- EVIL i- i guess their swords are gay-
It's funny because Arabs didnt have curved swords, this was introduced in Asia. The Arabs used straight swords.
@Dead Beat the prophet Muhammad and his Sahabah swords were straight broad swords who lived in 6th century Arabia
I love the way you pronounced things! This video was wonderfully made. It was super entertaining and informative, I loved it!
Ive heard also how the arabs experienced vikings ceremony for death which was kinda scary with the slave girl having to kill herself and so on
you didn't mention when the arab beaten the vikings after the viking attacked Seville
Sometimes i thought you were arab when you pronounce the arabic words !
Keep the good work.
*انت؟!* :0
@@M.W428 أنا
Brilliant video - how have I only now discovered this channel!!!
North Africa are Berber, Touareg, Greeks and Romans. At that time Arbs were few, and still few.
They were invaded by the Arabs
Finally some coverage on the eastern vikings (Varangians/Rus) Being Swedish it's a bit annoying to be sorta ignored if that makes sense because mostly people talk about the norweigans and danes but the swedes had a high presence in both the west and the east although mostly eastwards. There has been a popular theory emerging that claims Olof Skötkonung went with Knut Den Store to England and participated in the siege of London and other battles. How true this is i cannot say for sure but it is a real possibility given that we know for certain that several swedes went viking towards England as it states in Englandsstenarna which are runestones which are spread throughout Sweden were on one of the it states that one man erected a stone in honour and memory of his son who it said went with Knut, so we know that vikings went everywhere wherever they where from.
Also it should be said that first off to go Viking is more like a trade like a craftsman or farmer or something not an ethnicity, and swedes, danes and norweigans are basically the same people even today and back then it was even more close in language, culture and tradition, meaning that back then there was no such thing as Swedish, Norweigan or Danish, if you ask people where they came from they would at most name a region in the native land rather than a country or ethnicity, people identified with their village, family, lord. In general everything was more split up back then and it wasn't as simple as being a part of a certain people because you considered yourself part of a tribe within those people and your allegiance and loyalty were owed to those who you sworn oaths to, not to a king you've never met. But that's enough rambling xD!
Very accurate, and True.Have family in all 3 Countries.🙏🇺🇸🇩🇰🇳🇴🇸🇪
Now Scandinavia being dirtied with Islam invading.🎉
I'm once again amazed at your ability to pronounce so many different languages so well.
Mental that you've collabed with people like sam aronow now. Keep up the great work Hilbert!
Woooow, great arabic reading
I am a 2nd generation American. My people are from central and northern Sweden. I grew up hearing stories about my ancestors and their travels. Swedish Vikings went into the Russias, Constantinople and Palestine. Great story.
The Vikings never reached as far south as Israel.
@@jonahs92 The Norwegian Crusade wasn't all that different to a viking raid tbh.
@@jonahs92Palestine **
@khaledalsalem8404 "Palestine" doesn't exist. It never has, and it never will. Your friends in Hamas made sure of that.
The title of the video should be ( I can not accept the fact that vikings were filthy)
"Arab scimitars brought the new religion, to new regions..." No. Arabs didn't significantly use curved single edged swords, during that era. Such swords only started to, gradually, gain popularity, after the Mongol invasions of the Middle East (in the late 1200's). Before then, they mainly used straight double edged swords, very similar to the ones in Europe, with only some cosmetic differences, in the hilt.
Your pronunciation of arabic is really impressive for a non native speaker
The cleanliness habits of the middle and far east are why they don't talk about the plague and other major diseases of the such having been such a big deal. Because they are extremely clean people with proper hygiene habits.
I'd love a video about how the Norse/Vikings saw the Arabs!! This was awesome ☺️
This video is amazing! Such an interesting topic, I always think it's really cool to think about how different people groups throughout history looked at the rest of the world, brings a lot of humanity into history I think. Really well put together!
I'd love a video exploring Gog and Magog. Keep these videos coming.
The french who don’t even wash or shower ever: look at the effort of cleanness of these viking why bother.
Honestly I don’t think it’s an exaggeration most westerns people still dont clean their hole with water, they use paper towels. Just now some uses bidets, thank god. are we too clean or they are just dirty?
How do you know this in 2022?
@@kentimmins9171 that the french are dirty or that most western people don’t clean their bum hole with water ?
@@kentimmins9171 statistics
Very interesting part of history, haven’t seen this covered before
that was amazing bro!!! absolutely compelling subject
Intriguing topic, substantive research, and well-produced presentation. Thank you for sharing your efforts, friend. 🙂
The Norse were always liberal people. It surprises me how they really didn’t civilize during modern times to become as they are now. They just went back to being themselves.
Wtf, every ethnic group in one point or another had similar social organisation. There are many factors, such as geography, amount of population and available resource, which affect the social organisation.
@Heracles A. Well, let’s be honest. Nobody likes a weak man (or person for that matter) that’s why we mock them in a variety of ways in the forms of media and entertainment. In fact, you would surprised how many cultures still do to this day. Also slavery was practiced around much of the world not long ago and it still is in some regions of Africa. That means compared to what we have today, the Norse really weren’t that bad and were desirable in many aspects. My point is that many of the Nordic cultural aspects are intrinsic to them and they are beginning to resurface in a more secular Europe. By the way, isn’t the word ‘Nord’ from the game Elder Scrolls?
12:27 I don’t think they changed the water or something. The way the Vikings or the Norwegians long before took baths was that the man would take a bath, then another one and they went by some kind of order. And the most important thing is that the water was not changed in the bath. So they probably didn’t change it when washing and that
Imagine the difference of mostly being in searingly hot locales and ending up in a fjord eating smoked fish with some towering norsemen freezing your tail off
Thank you for such rich deepdown in this amazing topic ❤️
I'm Canadian Lebanese, and your pronunciation of Classical Arabic words is spot on!
Nothing is exaggerated here. Vikings were never known for their hygienic practices. Yup they were feersome warriors were introduced to modren society very late.
you have missed one very important factor in these interactions.. the Scandinavians were used and bodyguards by the arabs thought the middle east. as they were also used by the Byzantine rulers and the wealthy traders. the Norse knew all about the arabs society and culture.. as is shown by large amounts of middle eastern coins in scandinavia. the fact that these babarians were employed as bodyguards by wealthy traders is a good indicator that they had frequent regular contact.
You are right. the Norse people were used as body guards throughout history, even Romans used them. This is an indication that they had no feelings of power, politics or any kind of influence other than being warriors, and trustworthy. this led many people esp riches and leaders use them, coz of them being loyal to their contacts.
You forget to mention not all Nordic/norse peoples were warriors, a lot of them were traders and merchants in their own right. They traded a lot and travelled for prosperity. They werent JUST bodyguards.
@@fuscian true
@@cushabdullahi9666 so where the Swiss, the Swiss were also very popular mercenaries
As an American who grew up in Finland, of part-Finnish ancestry, today living in lsrael, in close proximity to Arabs, l found this fascinating. Any video you cam make about these topics will interest me.
Do you kill children and women in Palestine?
good job brother ,I am Arabic and I live in Norway .you spoke about many Arthur's of Muslims and so much information about the viking , also reading good Arabic .Allah with you to show you the way..
There’s an unrelated movie that depicts an Arab with a group of Vikings called the 13th warrior. It’s actually very detailed and shows the Arab opinion on the Norse people.
It is a fantasy story though
eww ur greatx100 granparent were dirty
Love the videos on relations between different peoples, more!!!!
Interesting and outstanding scholarship, presentation, and pronunciation, from my POV as a Norwegian-American with linguistics knowledge. I'll be looking for more of your work.
Please do make a part 2 of the reverse perspective. I appreciate all these sources. Thank you.
Seems like everyone thought everyone else was stinky asf
Through history.
13:04 "The Arabs saw the Nors as an unclean heathen people who had sex in public ate pork and had no control over their women"
Did anything change from that time.😂
BTW I never meant it as insult it was a joke 🍻
Thank you for the right pronunciation and putting in the effort, well done ❤🎉