And the track to ashington will be used by northern with a station added at Northumberland park to connect with metro although it would just be easier just to connected to the metro system and just run it as part of the metro. And not northern
I actually wrote to Ian Levvy the MP for the area asking if it could be integrated with the metro or at least let the use of pop cards on it. makes it easier than to have 2 separate tickets.
There wasnt gonna be a Metro station at Byker originally,they were going convert Heaton but they changed their mind,it was also gonna go further than St James which is half the reason the tunnels extend further than the station,but Thatcher spoilt that
13:00 My home station Monkseaton it used to have a footbridge but it got removed and you now have to go round via the road. Also you mentioned the trains to Ashington. I don't know if the station will be called Northumberland Park as that already exist in London
@@DavidFrankal Indeed, on the Morecambe - Leeds line, there's a station called Clapham. It used to be a junction with the Ingleton branch, closed 1954. The junction was called "Clapham Junction"!
I heard from nexus that 2 units are going to be kept of heritage reasons, I have also contacted nexus that when Howden satellite depot is finished why it cant't be turned into a visitor/Educational centre with the overheads permanently de energised and a 2 car metro unit kept on site in the shed permanently to educate the dangers of metro and the possibility giving younger children the experience as if they were driving the metro train, It could also tell the story from start to present how metro was evolved into the transport system today
@@harrytrains37 I know the reply I got from the customer service team they were excited about the idea I did a mock layout on how it could work, they did the same sort of thing at the channel tunnel in folkstone but if they are keeping Howden Depot it makes sense
It's definitely an interesting system, didn't expect it in a city the size of Newcastle. I loved my trips when I was there. And gorgeous station canopies in Monkseaton and Tynemouth, that don't cover anything... Why? Just why?
@@DavidFrankal the 17 minute train is the other line though, isn't it? So you could get ~15 minute frequency here where both lines are parallel, but ~30 minute frequency elsewhere.
@@andrew_ray Yes, it's normal for the network to be running reduced frequency due to staff shortages, mechanical issues with the trains etc. It's not ideal, hopefully it'll be solved when the new trains arrive.
@@DavidFrankal Never mind, they should be running on the Subway next time you are in these parts! I have a couple of videos up on my channel of the new Subway trains on the text rack if you are interested. The Subway have the trackbed of the old Govan branch as a test track, running from near the site of Ibrox Station south to Govan where the subway depot is. They used it for testing the 1980 trains and it was mostly derelict until a couple of years ago. It's now been rebuilt to a high spet and they've built a couple of sheds and you can get great views from where the line passes under the road.
The batteries on the new fleet will only be for when the is a over head power issue not to run on none electrified rail but with battery technology getting better every year that is probably possible in the future.
Suppose you haven't heard that Tyne and Wear Metro have ordered new rolling stock from Stadler which will be Class 555. Yep that's right Class 555 for the Tyne and Wear Metro. And it should be entering service from 2022/23. So you probably would want to watch out for these new rolling stocks from Stadler. :)
@@DavidFrankal Indeed. And also Stadler are also manufacturing the new rolling stocks for Glasgow subway and I think it should be classed in the Class 4xx or Class 5xx which it does run on 3rd Rail underneath Glasgow. And even Stadler to manufacture new London Underground tube stocks for the Bakerloo Line, Central Line and Waterloo & City Line. I probably would think that Stadler should build a UK train manufacturing plant and to manufacture new trains and rolling stocks in the UK.
@@Andrewjg_89 it has been confirmed that the Underground will receive newly built trains from Simens to replace the existing stock on the Piccadilly, Bakerloo, Waterloo&City & Central lines
I'll miss the Metrocars once the Class 555s come in.
@@Boxersteavee They're saying 2023 at the moment, so probably about 2025
monumetal tynemouth stn. love the livery of the carriages. looking forward to the new trains. thx
And the track to ashington will be used by northern with a station added at Northumberland park to connect with metro although it would just be easier just to connected to the metro system and just run it as part of the metro. And not northern
Agreed. I'm writing a letter to Grant Shapps suggesting that.
I actually wrote to Ian Levvy the MP for the area asking if it could be integrated with the metro or at least let the use of pop cards on it. makes it easier than to have 2 separate tickets.
There wasnt gonna be a Metro station at Byker originally,they were going convert Heaton but they changed their mind,it was also gonna go further than St James which is half the reason the tunnels extend further than the station,but Thatcher spoilt that
13:00 My home station Monkseaton it used to have a footbridge but it got removed and you now have to go round via the road. Also you mentioned the trains to Ashington. I don't know if the station will be called Northumberland Park as that already exist in London
There are some duplicate names out there, like Adlington (Cheshire and also Lancashire)
@@DavidFrankal Indeed, on the Morecambe - Leeds line, there's a station called Clapham. It used to be a junction with the Ingleton branch, closed 1954. The junction was called "Clapham Junction"!
@@DavidFrankal there's also two Rainhams in Kent/Essex, which are only 30 miles apart.
Happy to give you a cycling tour of some of the waggonways; including the role Riverside Railway route which now forms the Hadrian Cycleway.
I might take you up on that offer! Pop me an email or a DM if you use twitter :)
@@DavidFrankal have DMd you on Twitter!
I'd love to see the current metrocars get upcycled similar to the Vivarail D-Trains.
Maybe they could put them on the Blyth and Ashington line 😄
Can't imagine where they would go, the T&W is rather unique. Perhaps there was a missed opportunity to send them to the Isle of Wight?
I heard from nexus that 2 units are going to be kept of heritage reasons, I have also contacted nexus that when Howden satellite depot is finished why it cant't be turned into a visitor/Educational centre with the overheads permanently de energised and a 2 car metro unit kept on site in the shed permanently to educate the dangers of metro and the possibility giving younger children the experience as if they were driving the metro train, It could also tell the story from start to present how metro was evolved into the transport system today
@@pj6641 that's a good idea but I think they will be keeping Howdon depot as it was mentioned in their metro flow project
@@harrytrains37 I know the reply I got from the customer service team they were excited about the idea I did a mock layout on how it could work, they did the same sort of thing at the channel tunnel in folkstone but if they are keeping Howden Depot it makes sense
This video is monumental. :D
Eyy
It's definitely an interesting system, didn't expect it in a city the size of Newcastle. I loved my trips when I was there. And gorgeous station canopies in Monkseaton and Tynemouth, that don't cover anything... Why? Just why?
cuz they look cool B )
2:53 are 30 minute headways normal for the system or is that a COVID thing? It's not really a metro-style service if you can't turn up and go.
It's usually a 12 minute frequency on the yellow and green lines making a 6min frequency in the core during the day
At 2:53 the next train is in 17 minutes, the one after in 32
@@DavidFrankal the 17 minute train is the other line though, isn't it? So you could get ~15 minute frequency here where both lines are parallel, but ~30 minute frequency elsewhere.
@@andrew_ray Yes, it's normal for the network to be running reduced frequency due to staff shortages, mechanical issues with the trains etc. It's not ideal, hopefully it'll be solved when the new trains arrive.
Great video! Are you planning to do the Glasgow Subway at any point? Give me a shout if you need a local guide!
Thanks for the offer, I actually was up in Glasgow a couple of weeks ago! The video is in a bit of a queue
@@DavidFrankal Cool! Did you go to see the new trains being tested?
@@AlasdairMacCaluim Unfortunately not!
@@DavidFrankal Never mind, they should be running on the Subway next time you are in these parts!
I have a couple of videos up on my channel of the new Subway trains on the text rack if you are interested. The Subway have the trackbed of the old Govan branch as a test track, running from near the site of Ibrox Station south to Govan where the subway depot is. They used it for testing the 1980 trains and it was mostly derelict until a couple of years ago. It's now been rebuilt to a high spet and they've built a couple of sheds and you can get great views from where the line passes under the road.
00:05 hull trains iet
Officially the first commenter, great video as always ,👍
The batteries on the new fleet will only be for when the is a over head power issue not to run on none electrified rail but with battery technology getting better every year that is probably possible in the future.
Why don't they reopen the Blyth and Ashington lines as a metro route. Surely it would be easier
Also Silverlink, Metrocentre and Durham
Yes
Suppose you haven't heard that Tyne and Wear Metro have ordered new rolling stock from Stadler which will be Class 555. Yep that's right Class 555 for the Tyne and Wear Metro. And it should be entering service from 2022/23. So you probably would want to watch out for these new rolling stocks from Stadler. :)
I have heard, it was mentioned at 2:17
@@DavidFrankal Indeed. And also Stadler are also manufacturing the new rolling stocks for Glasgow subway and I think it should be classed in the Class 4xx or Class 5xx which it does run on 3rd Rail underneath Glasgow. And even Stadler to manufacture new London Underground tube stocks for the Bakerloo Line, Central Line and Waterloo & City Line. I probably would think that Stadler should build a UK train manufacturing plant and to manufacture new trains and rolling stocks in the UK.
@@Andrewjg_89 it has been confirmed that the Underground will receive newly built trains from Simens to replace the existing stock on the Piccadilly, Bakerloo, Waterloo&City & Central lines
@@southerntransport466 Looking forward to it. Thanks.
Next trip . . . Glasgow Subway . . .
It's in the queue!
Fun fact. My mam named me after the emperor Hadrian.
orrible pronounciashun of metraw. pronoonce it lak a propa geordie man.