GIVE HER AN OSCAR! First Time Watching *WAKANDA FOREVER*
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00:00 - Intro
01:32 - Reaction
39:21 - Final Thoughts
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First Time Watching Marvel's Black Panther Wakanda Forever
Chadwick Boseman
Angela Bassett - Розваги
Angela Bassett is hypnotizing in this movie. When she speaks you rise up in your chair and feel it.
Perfect way to describer her performance! She absolutely commands the screen!
@@movienightwithjacqui Have been recommending your channel to friends. Keep up the good work 🤜🤛
@@cliffbeavers6158 Thank you so much!
@@movienightwithjacqui 8:10 they're Atlanteans
@@movienightwithjacqui 31:40 Riri's hero name is Iron Heart
The emotions you felt during the funeral just imagine being in a theater on opening night to witness the cold open. It was one of the few times a character/actor life felt intertwined. We weren't just mourning the larger than life character but the actor that surpassed the greatest traits of the character he portrayed.
Rest in peace, Chadwick
I can only imagine! It was a beautiful tribute. RIP Chadwick.
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The fact that shuri didn'treally have that much of an athletic past like tchala but still slayed.
Namor is such an interesting character. The movie changed his origins from his comic counterpart, but I didn’t mind the changes. In the comics Namor and his people are Atlanteans and he is the result of his Atlantean mother falling for a sailor during WW1 (he has a lot of similarities to Aquaman but Namor was first). Namor is considered comics first mutant even being used for reference when X-Men was being pitched. He also is the first comic book character to fly, Superman was still just leaping tall buildings at the time.
Namor the Sub-Mariner was a member of The Invaders, Captain America’s team during WW2. He’s been an Avenger, an X-Man, an ally to the Fantastic Four, and founded the Defenders. Not only has he aided those teams he’s also been an adversary to most of them. M’Baku’s claim that Namor could match the Hulk isn’t an exaggeration, Namor has gone toe to toe with some of Marvel’s heaviest hitters and he uses the line between hero and villain like a jump rope.
Namor is also bipolar in the comics because half his physiology craves air and the other craves water so it creates a chemical imbalance in his brain.
Imperious Rex is his comic book catch phrase and just means Emperor King. He’s most designed after Greek and Roman conquerors, in fact his name is just Roman backwards.
Sorry for the info dump. Namor is one of my favorite comic book characters and it’s a shame more people didn’t know about him before this movie.
I didn’t know any of this. This is great information, thanks!
🙏🏽💪
Very good summing up & I agree - it was a risk playing with Namor's backstory, but I think it worked for the MCU. In particular I like the Mesoamerican flavor they gave the culture.
Hell Yeah, dude :) The Submariner and The Surfer are two of my personal favs. 🤘🏽🔺👊🏽
Nice
Her name is Iron Heart, in the comics her AI is voiced by Tony Stark
I've never gasped in real life but when Lupita first appears on screen sheesh. GORGEOUS doesn't even begin to capture her.
She's such a magnetic presence on screen, and she just radiates joy! Gotta love her 😊
It's my understanding that Namor's people (i.e. Atlanteans) in the film appear to have blue skin only when on the surface because of their inability to extract oxygen from the air directly; however, upon returning to the ocean their skin typically looks like Namor's since within that environment they become able to breathe normally processing the oxygen through the circulatory system. I loved how Ryan Coogler directed the scene with Shuri going to the ancestral plane because she started off submerged in water which was symbolic of Shuri being drowned by her grief and isolation as a result of her mother and brother's deaths; and once she reached the surface you could tell the fire was representative of Shuri's hatred and rage towards Namor and perhaps the world in general.
The clothing design is absolutely stunning. I hope they are throwing awards at the costume team.
The only reason why the people underwater looked like they had normal skin is because of the tint underwater. They are blue but, they don't appear blue while underwater
Angela plays a queen so well, it's like she knows how to do it. OMG! Give this woman the Oscar! Yes. Agreed.
They didn’t underestimate namors people. They had less than a week to prep against a nation who has the same resources as them and who are physically superior it wasn’t much they could do in the first place
“I AM QUEEN OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATION IN THE WORLD AND MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS GONE! HAVE I NOT GIVEN EVERYTHING?”
ICONIC!
Burned the room down
Episode 3 of TLOU followed by Wakanda Forever? You doing OK? That's an emotional one-two punch.
To the surprise of nobody, Angela Bassett absolutely owned her role and knocked it out of the park. Letitia Wright deserves a lot of credit for carrying her part in a very emotionally driven lead role.
A little easter egg relating to the post-credit scene reveal: Nakia tells Shuri that Ramonda knew of and had met her grandson. Earlier on in the scene with Ramonda and Shuri on the shore burning the ceremonial dresses, Ramonda is about to tell Shuri something but gets interrupted by Namor making his first appearance in Wakanda. It's a heavy implication that Ramonda was going to tell Shuri about her nephew
I'm glad I have a little break before episode 4 of TLOU 😅 I definitely didn't expect such an emotional week! As far as the queen planning to tell Shuri, I didn't notice it until I was editing. It was a great bit of writing that's so easy to miss, so thank you for pointing it out 😊
You’re gonna LOVE She-Hulk. Tatiana Maslany took her Emmy and ran with it. Her and Ginger Gonzaga are such a pair.
And without a doubt, Ruth E. Carter (the costume designer)….she’s gonna win her second Oscar.
Riri Williams, aka Ironheart is what she’s called.
And Namor was actually Marvel’s first Mutant, way back in 1939.
She hulk was trash don’t lie to her
@@hatakeanime1254 it wasn't, it was made for an audience that wasn't you
no one loves she hulk lol.
I wanted to watch it just because I love Tatiana Maslany--Orphan Black is still one of my all time favorite shows. I've heard mixed things about She-Hulk, but I would still like to watch it for myself. at some point. 😊
Thank you for the great trivia! I appreciate the context!
@@movienightwithjacqui As you should. There are legit negative criticism of She-hulk and I don't blame people for disliking it. But as with Captain Marvel and to some extent The Eternals and the tv-shows much of it is overblown. While taking on some serious issues the character of She-hulk and her stories is about having fun. Not everyones type of fun, but the show stay true to the character.
I don't really consider the Queens death that trope . I think she didn't move because Namor told her he came to kill her. I think by telling Riri to run she excepted her fate to save her people
you are giving the best narration. I didn't know that was Trevor's voice. You filled in a lot of holes. Queen Angela, a force to be reckoned with!! Beautiful work
Thank you! I'm glad I could help 😊
You mean plotholes
@davidrojas8061 no, I meant what I said
@@brothercinnamon2479 sureeee.....
They have regular skin underwater but when they leave the water their skin turns blue. Some kind of evolutionary adaptation.
This film is a masterpiece. Better than first. And Namor is one of top memorable things of film. His character is strong and he’s motivations on par w Killmonger and was on sceeen more. Top 3 villain along w/him and Thanos. But he’s not always a villain,
I saw this in theaters and I personally loved the hell out of it. I was also an emotional mess watching it and to me Wakanda Forever would've been my favorite MCU film if it wasn't for No Way Home still taking the top spot for best MCU film.
I can only imagine what the experience must have been like in theaters! I saw No Way Home when it came out, and it was incredible with an audience all geeking out together 😄
Great reaction I am glad Ryan coogler didn't turn TALKON into a cartoon version of a under water world
It's nothing like AQUAMAN OR AVATAR you understand why they are the way they are It's not
CGI heavy you can relate to NAMOR
I love the mesoamerican inclusion with the Atlanteans/Talokanil. the music and aesthetics gave me CHILLS.
also, the Atlanteans/Talokanil are only blue when they are exposed to the air, and become deoxygenated!
Riri Williams' hero name is Ironheart! ♡
I don't know if the protagonist was "dumbed down" I see it as the leader is so grief stricken her anger allows her to miss things. She was warned not to go to war for revenge. The reason they gave was philosophical but there's a strategic reason too. Scientifically speaking you cannot access the higher functions of your brain when raging making fighting a strong enemy or communication virtually impossible. And who can blame her really after all she lost but when the black panther is ruler, general and greatest warrior you cannot afford to cut off the strategic part of your brain it will cause your troops to loose formation,l and ground and with that goes hope of victory. They pulled it off in the end because of their strength and tech and this was partially a way to show off that strength. It's a testament to nemors intelligence: attack the people so they leadership will be vulnerable then destroy shuris hope, she will either be a great leader (by his measure) that can help him or she will destroy herself and her country ridding him of his greatest foe. The risk is creating a bigger threat so ultimately he was the one who underestimated wakanda
Hey! Nice reaction 😃👍🏾
I'm sure someone mentioned it already, but just in case, I think that when the merpeople are underwater they have a traditional skin-tone (Like Attuma and Namora in Namor's speech before they attack) and when they go into the surface world their skin turns to blue. It also appears to be an intentional decision 🤷🏿♂️... Cool 😁🤙🏾. Keep up the good work 👍🏾.
Thank you!
Fun fact: T'Challa's son's Haitian name is actually the name of the general in the Haitian Revolution "Toussaint L'Ouverture"
Namor isn’t a villain he’s an antihero. And Namor was completely right in what he said and how he went about things I love the Wakandans but they started it and paid heavily
I disagree. I don’t believe that Namor went about things correctly at all, especially in his first interaction with Queen Ramonda and Shuri. He treated them not as potential allies and rulers to receive aid from, but as enemies: sneaking into the country and approaching the Queen and Princess at night without their guards (already making the two feel like they need to defend themselves), making demands, and threatening them when the Ramonda is rightfully defensive. In their positions, Namor wouldn’t have taken that kindly either. His diplomatic skills are really lacking throughout the film.
Also, when the Queen sends Okoye and Shuri to do as he asked and retrieve the scientist (to Namor’s knowledge; he has no way of knowing at this point that they aren’t planning on handing Riri over), he has his soldiers attack them, attempt to kill her general, and take the princess. Meeting with Namor makes her desperation worse, as he-when the Queen demands that her daughter be returned to her-threatens to kill Shuri. All this coupled into the fact that Ramonda had just lost her son, and Shuri is the only family member she has left. No shit she’d send Nakia in to get her child back.
As a character, his motivations and actions are understandable, however that doesn’t make them right. If Ramonda had treated Namor and the people of Talokan as he treated her and the Wakandans, he’d have waged war with them to begin with.
@@umi_ah9814 why would he reveal himself first off if his people weren’t at risk due to tchallla revelations of vibrainium one two Namor treated shuri with respect showing her his home basically exposing their location to her and in return his people get killed. Wakanda basically started all this. Also if your the queen why would you openly threaten a being that’s stronger than anyone you had currently especially since you had no black panther? Dumb decision on her part. Lik ik talokan!!!!!
@@TonyStark-qq3qs What do you mean by “reveal himself”? He revealed himself to the Wakandans in the beginning of the movie, as Ramonda told the council and guards about him after their first meeting. I’m not sure what you mean. Also, Namor only showed Shuri to Talokan after the bridge fight (which didn’t need to happen in the first place, and added to the negative relationship between the two leaders-him and Ramonda-as stated in my previous comments). I was referring to their first encounter. He didn’t approach Queen Ramonda and Shuri with respect, or as leaders of a country he wanted to actually get along with (once again, I went into more detail in my previous comments).
My point was that the two nations could have had a completely different, much more amiable relationship from the beginning. I do agree that T’Challa revealing Wakanda to the world affected the people of Talokan, but there’s also the fact that he had no knowledge of them and how his actions would affect them at the time.
@@TonyStark-qq3qs Also, Ramonda had no knowledge of the strength or style of combat of K’uk’ulkan before the attack on Wakanda, so that’s a moot point. She was just trying to get her daughter back, and was using the only bit of leverage that she had. As I said before, he threatened to kill the queen’s daughter to her face while Shuri was in Talokan, and refused to take her back to Ramonda. Why wouldn’t she have sent Nakiya? I do believe that Nakiya should’ve used non-lethal rounds instead, to avoid killing any of his people. However, she tried to not kill the two women and told them to drop their weapons, but the guard immediately tried to kill Shuri, and the other woman kept her knife against Shuri’s neck (even after being to to drop it about four times). Nakiya also didn’t know how many opponents she would face, or how non-lethal rounds would affect the people of Talokan (if they would even work or not).
Anyways, I’m not hating on Namor or Talokan. I love how they wrote his character in this film and the representation in this whole movie. I understand his beliefs-especially about the world-and why he took the approach he did with Wakanda, but I don’t believe it was the best one.
Angela Bassett's and Letitia Wright's acting was amazing in this one
I’m glad you enjoyed this movie.
I admit I didn’t find much to complain about the cinematography despite the drop in grandiose quality, I find Namor to be a decent antagonist and the attempt at worldbuilding is appreciated, all traces of the atmospheric music is heavenly to the ears, the CGI has some tweaked polish to it and between the sumptuous production design mixed with the elaborate, peacocking costumes, most of this film is gorgeous to look at. And the way they handle Chadwick’s passing makes it a heartfelt eulogy.
Me personally……it feels like they were trying to do too much. Ryan Coogler did make a smart play to have the characters go through the same emotions so it can attempt to make time for grief (as it was the central then of Phase 4) but then there’s having to set up new heroes and villains, exploring political conflicts, trying to branch out in the overarching world of the MCU, uncovering a new and mysterious civilization, reflecting on the phase’s themes of tragedy and loss, you see where I’m getting at?
It is simply way too much for the poor man to tackle and build a convincing narrative around in under three hours. And……ok, I’m doing too much.
They turn blue when above water.
Their bodies are normal in the water and blue outside the water
All of the oxygen theories notwithstanding, the talokan being blue is right out of the comics. The comics have depicted the Atlanteans as blue when out of the water, and wearing breathers.
So, with this movie, you have to take into account that they had to rewrite the movie on the fly because Chadwick Boseman died. And then COVID. It really impacted the story they could tell on the timeline Disney gave them.
And I'm sure someone has said it before but I'm not reading the comments, but Riri is Iron Heart. She has a Disney + special coming and she should be in Armor Wars.
Tbh, when they announced this movie, I was a bit sceptical, because in my mind, how they will do this IMPOSSIBLE task, without recasting the Black Panther? Without T'challa, the main character, the center of it all??
Then the trailers out, and I recently watched this movie on Disney+ yesterday, and I gotta say....this movie is AMAZING. They really did thr hardest task behind the scenes, and really dedicated the lost of Chadwick so well, in certain moments for either Shuri, even Queen Ramonda (which...Angela Basset MURDERED the performance, and truly deserved that Oscar). Namor is by far, interesting character. I like that they changes his origins, and adding sort of Aztec-Mayan-South American culture, just like what they did with Black Panther, with their African culture in most places.
Even though the pacing were a bit...off sometimes, but I still have a good time, and still understand the story, and conflict.
Overall, a fantastic watch. Solid 8,5/10 for me.
Namor is Marvel’s second character way back in the 40’s. He’s an occasional villain, occasional anti-hero, occasional hero.
He wasn’t a strong villain probably because he wasn’t a villain. Also, where Kilmonger had his story arc in a single film, Namor will continue to have character development.
:-)
Iron Heart is her "made up name" and she has her own show coming. I'm ready to see more of her!
I really enjoyed her as a character, so looking forward to seeing more! 😊
Angela Bassett better get those awards she was nominated for!
If I could vote for her, I would!
Good job on this one. I really enjoyed your insights on this one as a fan of the original film. I like a lot of the parallels between the films as well.
Thank you! And thank you for following every step of the process 😊
Great review and great reaction. This is one of my favourite MCU movies. I think what Ryan and cast managed to achieve under such emotional trauma was exceptional. And yes Angela Bassett was mighty powerful. I too will be watching on Oscar night.
Thank you! And totally agree--they had a monumental task after the first film and after losing Chadwick. I think they did a great job, and on the whole, I really liked Wakanda Forever.
"Show him who you are."
Spirits have a way of communicating multiple meanings with a single sentence. There are at least four here.
One is obvious and clearly intended, but the statement is still relevant if "him" is intended to refer to three other characters. Another asks her to reject the path chosen after taking the herb. The third asks her to find acceptance in her grief. And with the fourth, she is being asked to take on the responsibility to help guide another.
I loved when you said "wax in the ears, Odysseus." Gave me life! Because yes. Yes.
great insight immediate sub.
i was a huge fan of namor (mexican bias maybe) and i loved hearing your reasons why you disagreed. many of the moments you say didnt hold enough weight i guess maybe we can blame on the fact that the movie had to be fully rewritten and the fact it was already approaching 3 hours. i also wish there was an extra scene after the queen's death, and that there was a longer "back to the light" moment for both shuri and namor.
so excited to see what commentaries you upload next
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I hope you stick around for more 😊 And I agree, I think they had so much to accomplish with this film as a sequel, and essentially a new origin story after Chadwick passed. All things considered, I think they did a great job!
the queens death pissed me off too. and i'm still not ok with it
I think it felt worse considering we lost T'Challa in this movie, too. I get the sense it was already in the script, and would have been used for his (and Shuri's) character/story development anyway, which absolutely annoys me. I could go on for a long time about why that trope irks me. I think it just felt that much worse that it was the second family death in the movie...it was overkill, if you'll pardon the pun 😅
@@movienightwithjacqui agreed
Riri Williams is Iron Heart
And you’re correct about Tony Stark being proud of her. He is so proud of her that he creates her new AI and it’s Tony Stark. Tony Stark is her AI
Name the career RiRi is playing is Lionheart.
Saying namor isn't a good villin is crazy to me,he killed the queen and invaded wakanda. If it was war war, his ppl would have killed all wakanda and then the planet. Plus, he's a mutant, the first one in Marvel comics on paper.
I feel like the Wakandan women in Black Panther show real feminism. At least up to this point in the movies. I know there are many that'll disagree but I don't find that society embraces the type of toxic feminist vibes prevalent today. At no time do we get the feeling that the women believe they are superior to men. The respect for men are equal to the respect for women. I really like that. There is no need to push down one gender to lift up the other. We can highlight the strengths of both.
you might be the only person who recognized Lake Bell. she's great!
Thanks! Sad she died, but glad we got to see her 😄
@@movienightwithjacqui they probably just threw her a fun little cameo for doing such a good Black Widow voice in What If!
Ludwig Goransson on the musical score and Ruth E. Carter who won the oscar for the first film is back and got nominated again for the same category this years Oscar’s
I so really love your analysis of the movie. A true film fan that appreciates the edge of creativity. Another perspective which I can except rather than the other HATE you hear . Personally I have this film HIGH of my favourites.
Nice 👍🏾
Thank you!
The iron man suit in wakanda forever in the comics goes by the name of Iron Heart. That is what the suit is called.
I noticed that outside of water there blue but under water they have normal skin
I actually do not know the directors reason for the Talokan skin changing from blue to normal.
My Theory, is a matter of oxidation or lack thereof depending on where they are. Their natural habitat allows them to have normal skin tones underwater because they're getting oxygenated. On the surface it's just not happening in contact, maybe even deep sea pressure adding a balance as well?
This movie has a big Chadwick shaped hole in the middle... you can see the bones of the movie Ryan wanted to make.
It's a solid but not great film...
Great reaction. I just found your channel and subscribed because I loved your enthusiasm while watching this. 🙂
Riri's hero name is iron heart and she is getting her own Disney+ show
I love the detail that when Shuri drops in on the meeting as Black Panther, the music wants to feel triumphant but it still has this sinister synth undertone following her experience with Killmonger.
Namor is the only one who isn’t blue. Everyone else is but only out of water. They’re not blue underwater
The sea peoples are blue when they are out of the water, their skins turns normal when underwater.
Riri is Ironheart in the Comics and in some of them her Ai is litterly Tony Stark's mind created as an A.I but she is the one that takes over for him. I love angela Basett in everything that she does and I am so glad she is nominaited. I loved this movie so much and it does a good job making you feel all the emotions it wants you to. I was shocked when they killed the queen but it also makes sense in order for Suri to find her way in the world and give her the push she needed to take over as the Black Panther. I love how her suit is a mix between her brother with the silver and Kilmonger with the gold.
This is an awesome film. I didn’t get a chance to see it in the theater. I watched it as soon as it was on D+. I didn’t make it 2 minutes. Tears were streaming down my face. It hit me especially hard as I’m grieving the loss of my wife on 1/30. We were together 22 years and it wasn’t long enough. ❤ This movie hit me like a truck
Riri in the armor is Ironheart. :)
Also, Wakanda underestimating Talokan made sense to me. They have the most technologically advanced military on the planet. And they're so far ahead that the second place nation is completely outmatched. They've never met an equal and it's going to take some time to change that mindset. And once they do, Talokan is gonna be in for a world of hurt. But I also don't think either side would win. They won't lose, technically, but they won't win either. With the rest of the world in the crossfire.
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I feel like Nakia is as much to blame as Ramonda for sparking a war between Wakanda and Talokan.
On a brighter note, I’m gonna miss Trevor Noah on the Daily Show but I’m glad he had more lines as Griot this time around.
I’m personally glad this film wasn’t too funny, but Riri and M’Baku helped to bring some lightheartedness during this hard time.
One particular thing that I like about this movie was that we got not one but TWO indigenous actresses from Guatemala. María Mercedes Coroy (Namor’s mom) and Doña María Telón (the elder Nakia spoke to) are both from Santa María de Jesús in the Sacatepéquez Deparment. My parents are from Quetzaltenango.
The film’s score includes edited versions for some of the soundtracks’ songs, but they didn’t add the film’s version of Alone by Burna Boy which includes an excerpt of Stormzy’s Interlude at the start of the song. In the soundtrack, both songs are separate.
Senegalese musician Baaba Maal who provided vocals for some of the background music in Black Panther 1 and 2 got to a cameo singing at T’Challa’s funeral.
Tenoch Huerta got to reprise his role for the Latin Spanish dub.
Riri may not have been allowed to take her suit, but that doesn’t mean we’ve seen the last of them. In fact, we’re just getting started. Riri’s superhero codename is Ironheart. She’s gonna have her own series later this year.
I hope you check out Moon Knight soon. There’s so much to unravel.
We now leave phase four and enter phase five. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, and The Marvels are approaching.
We’re also getting new shows on Disney Plus:
Secret Invasion - Nick Fury’s solo series
Echo - Alaqua Cox returns from Hawkeye as Maya Lopez in her own series
Loki season 2
X-Men ‘97 - the continuation of X-Men: The Animated Series. It’s not part of the MCU, but it’s produced by Marvel Studios. Most of the original voice cast is returning. You could say it’s season six, and there’s also a season seven on the way.
Agatha: Coven of Chaos - Kathryn Hahn returns from WandaVision in her own series coming later this year.
There’s more on the way, but Valentina will return in the Thunderbolts July of next year. She’ll lead a team on antiheroes. The squad so far consists of Bucky, Yelena, Alexei Shostakov/Red Guardian, Antonia Dreykov/Taskmaster, John Walker/US Agent, and Ava Starr/Ghost.
We’re also getting a fourth Captain America film titled New World Order in May of next year, but now is Sam’s time to shine under the mantle.
It’s all leading up to Phase Six which will include Fantastic Four and two Avengers films called The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.
The new F4 will be directed by Matt Shakman who previously worked on all nine episodes of WandaVision. The Kang Dynasty will be directed by Destin Daniel Cretton who previously directed Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. They both got their work cut out for them.
If the U.S. president in the MCU is ever Martin Sheen, I think we finally have the Marvel Studios / West Wing crossover event fans have been clamoring for. 🤣
And Riri’s suit/character is called Ironheart - and is getting its own series on Disney+. 👍🏻
ShuriMonger 😂🤣.
Angela Bassett 👸🏾
Lupita Nyongo 🍑 (I'm so jealous) 😂🤣
It's D.A.B.D.A., processing loss starts with denial, then anger, THEN bargaining, then depression, then acceptance. Bargaining is stage three.
It doesn't matter. It's proven that there's no specific order that the stages of grief happen, even if DABDA is what's generally taught. People experience grief in their own ways, and experience the stages in whatever order it happens for them. This is also a film that has to work narratively, so adhering to a strict order may not work for the flow of the story. This is how Shuri experienced it, and I thought that was a beautiful way to structure the film.
@@movienightwithjacqui yes, of course people skip steps, it’s psychology. But that’s the standard and I haven’t heard of a separate one just for narrative.
There is a heart at her suite, she's Ironheart
I really liked this Movie and the villain, but I think Namor should have won, not only he is a powerful mutant but he is smart, and was defeated by a young girl that just got the black panther powers, I know the movie is Black Panthe not Namor, but still lmao
Her hero name is iron haurt
Thumbs up for the Odyssey reference ... we love smart chicks...
Namor isnt a villain hes an atagonist.
They didn’t underestimate they just don’t know they’re endurance and what they can handle hence why they didn’t know they would go thru u sonic thing on the bottum of the boat
Also, thank you for mentioning the stages of grief. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You were asking about Riri's suit name - in the comics she's IronHeart, and at one point had an AI version of Tony Stark instead of Jarvis
That makes sense, with the shape of arc reactor. Thank you!
the 2nd MCU movie The Incredible Hulk has a lot to do with the television show which was a big hit in its time. Starring Bill Bixby who always had to walk away from any town he visits because of the monster lurking within him. There is a sad piano theme whenever he walks away and there are a few memes and parodies and homages to this online. Some of the lines in the film are a callback to the TV show such as...
lol I just myself did it, I searched for "sad walking away piano song" and yes there are 20, 30, 50 videos? How to make your own walking away parody video... you need a backpack to hold all your belongings and an empty road that you are walking on, now hold on to the strap with one hand and with the other extend a thumb out as if hitchhiking like you were in the late 70s... "You've gotten angry and did some major destruction and perhaps put the lives of those you love in danger. So now you leave and you're walking away alone... slowly down an empty road... until next time..." forever wandering to keep at bay that monster that lurks within you... (none of this is a spoiler to the movie by the way, the piano bit is in a world all its own.)
Amazing reaction 🥲 greetings from Spain.
I don't think they'll ever top Killmonger. Set the bar way too high in the first movie.
Enjoyed your reaction and the insight you bring from your film knowledge. And I certainly 💕 your use of language. I'll just say I liked Namor a lot in the film as I read about him in his solo comics growing up. And now you know about the young hero Ironheart after this movie.
Maybe someone already said...the 2 skin colors of the ocean peope...Namor was the only brown person that went into the water. He's around 400 yrs old. My hypothesis is that the brown skinned ocean people are his decedents. That or recessive genes in the blue ones produce the odd brown skinned person.
Jacqui! I just watched this for the first night on the night it was on Disney Plus. So, when I saw this...I couldn't click on it fast enough!
I watched this with huge hope for it as 'Black Panther' is my absolute favorite MCU film. It was not a bad sequel in my opinion, either...but it was...a good sequel. I was so heartbroken when Chadwick Boseman passed that not having more of T'Challa/Black Panther feels like robbery on a cosmic scale. I totally agree that Angela Bassett should just be handed the Oscar. I was also so happy with Winston Duke's performance, too. I think if more Black Panther films happen with Shuri, they will probably excellent...but everything getting turned upside down with Chadwick's death, this was as good as it was gonna get. And that is okay...we lost someone we loved on screen, they all lost a collegue, friend, and leader in their franchise. It made me cry quite a lot (not hard, really), but it was still a gut punch at moments.
The character of Namor in film form was a let down from what I remember of the character as a kid. He was kind of a Marvel version of Aquaman (although Namor was created first, I believe) and Black Adam...sometimes a hero, sometimes an antihero. But, my knowledge of Namor is more based on what I remember as a kid from just a few comics and more Saturday morning cartoons created by Marvel (and often narrated by Stan Lee himself!).
30:52 - Enter...Ironheart! Riri Williams is sometimes referred to as Ironheart, although, from what I know, it's not official...she kinda takes on the name to honor Tony Stark, who she did meet in the comics.
33:34 - THANK YOU! I thought I was missing something because the Wakandans were getting their butts kicked. You hit the nail on the head!!! You would have thought that after Thanos, they would take that kinda thing into consideration in any other dealings they might have as a nation. Never underestimate an enemy...and the third act was rife with this! Dramatically...yeah, it's understandable...but, it's not in the character of any of the major allies (M'Baku, Nakia, and Okoye) to lose sight of that, although it is perfectly right for Shuri to (the stages of her grief would make her do stupid things, which it does).
See you in the next video!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who had some qualms about the third act. I always get nervous saying anything negative about Marvel, but I had to be honest. So it's nice to hear I wasn't the only one who noticed 😅 Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you, as always, for the lovely comment! I think they did a remarkable job with what they had to do post-Black Panther/Chadwick Boseman, and I think he would be proud.
Only thing I think when watching the beginning of this movie is that he should be here. One of the celebrity deaths that hit me the absolute hardest
They gave him a beautiful tribute, and his death was definitely even more heartbreaking for being so sudden. For me, Chadwick's death is up there with Robin Williams for the impact it had 💔
@@movienightwithjacqui yes! Robin Williams hit me like a family death, especially given the circumstances. Cried like a baby for that entire evening
Loved the reaction. Riri is known in the comics as Ironheart ,and is part of the young avengers.
Been loving the videos so far! Keep it up! You should give the Karate Kid films and spin off series a watch!
Thank you! Alas, I've seen them all 😊 Great recommendations, though!
@@movienightwithjacqui please do Saving Private Ryan next!
@@ryanrydzewski3477 I've seen it already--we studied for my Spielberg class. I haven't seen Black Hawk Down though, as well as a few others, so those are on my list to tackle! Appreciate the request--Saving Private Ryan is a spectacular movie.
Just seen it yesterday lol, tbh it was all over place but I love it lol. And I caught some of the references n parallels too . 💯🌹🌹
30:59 Does the forcefield generator fit into a ship?
They’re blue when they come out of the water because they can’t breathe air anymore, which is why they wear the masks. But when they’re submerged, their skin absorbs oxygen, therefore no blue color underwater
This was very similar to the first one and unfortunately, for the worse. Don't agree with much of any of these decisions they made in this film..they should've recast Black Panther. All Respect to Chad Boseman, rip...
For a movie with no firearms, there are GUNS EVERYWHERE!
(also, She Hulk is worth your time, BTW. It's silly fun and Tatiana is AMAZING.)
The pain is real. This is definitely the first Marvel movie to make me tear up three times in the first six minutes. 😢
4:22 🤣 The West Wing is one one the greatest shows in history. Sorkin is a genius.
Amen! Also yes! The West Wing never gets old! I think I've seen the whole thing two or three times by now lol.
@@movienightwithjacqui I'd also highly recommend "The Newsroom" and "Studio 60 On The Sunset Strip". Two more great Sorkin series, neither of which lasted as long as they should have.
Fantastic movie and awesome tribute to chad. Great reaction Jacquie!
Thank you!
I believe they are only blue when out of water, although some scenes seem to be inconsistent with that. Also doesn’t apply to Namor since he is half human
hahaha, I love all the "Good Place" expletives. Great review, really looking forward to more Last of Us episodes.
Thank you! I love when people get the Good Place reference 😊 Hope you enjoy the rest of the season!
What type of films do you want to make?
Iron heart is Riri’s hero name 😊
Thank you!
They are all blue outside the water except namor 😅
Riri’s hero name is Ironheart!
RiRi Williams is Ironheart
24:50 Twice… oh Jackie, if only.
I know...a new episode of TLOU on Sunday...got my tissues ready!
I liked the film and thought it was visually stunning. I liked the concept of the ancient Mexicans (I can't remember if they were Aztecs or Mayans, I think Mayans) having a civilization under the sea. But it bugged me a little that Namor is NOT no amor so is not No Love as they claimed. They shouldn't have tried for that because the original character was not Mexican so the spelling doesn't work and I can't believe the writers didn't know a tiny bit of spanish and didn't see they messed up. Agree with Jacqui that it was good but not great. Original Black Panther was great.
" come to jesus moment" Im dead
Riris hero name is Ironheart, she’s getting her own show down the line
Subscribe button is now black on the web version. No clue on the phone version.
It is for me too, but apparently it's still red on some browsers 🤷🏼♀️ Ah well