I’m not sure why this goes unnoticed so often but it’s important to keep in mind that anytime Nietzsche is talking about other peoples senses he is comparing them to his sense of smell. Basically when he says “we’ve SEEN nothing yet” he means “but I’ve smell it a mile away”. Nietzsche said “my genius resides in my nostrils”. Nietzsche is really really funny when you get the jokes.
An interesting one from myths outside of the standard western canon: Maui. He fished up the land, slowed down the sun with a net, took fire from a god (by contest or trickery, depending on the story)... but then, after all his other deeds, he tried to cheat death and become immortal and got killed in the process. Not that themes like that come up in Silicon Valley futurist circles at all, right.
Acid Horizon has a great habit of knowing what I'm reading at the moment and explaining it better than the book I'm trying to decipher 🤣 Last night I was listening to the new audio book of Anti-Oedipus and trying to figure out what anti-production actually meant - very grateful to Adam et al. for explaining it in layman's terms! I love Deleuze and the postwar French set, but my god do they write obtrusively. AH is an invaluable resource for understanding these philosophical titans - keep up the great work!
I just read it. It’s awful, a billionaire cosplaying a philosopher. It is somehow an uninhabited effort; it’s deserted. He would also seemingly place himself at its centre of whatever this is, like a think tank in government. (When this happened in the UK it didn’t go well: sed Liz Truss / 55 Tufton Street.)
We'll Make You All Rich!!! but didn't they promise that 40 years ago? (now almost 50!) But just take one look outside and things could be hardly any worse. jointing around the dilapidated street today trying to avoid the legions of destitute poor and homeless the post war infrastructure falling to pieces; the collapse heath service, the worse inflation since the 1970, the largest fall in living standers since records began. Nothing works! And I mean fuck how intellectually exhausted can they get? The manifesto confirms to me that we live in the capitalist version of late Brezhnev Soviet Union. This would be the type of crap ordered up by a capitalist politburo for ideological instruction. The Neo-liberal (counter)revolution has failed! Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan have failed! It has failed on all of it own premises. It has failed to shrink the size of state, it has failed to reduce taxes, it has failed to reduce welfare dependence and state bureaucracy, it has failed to increase efficiency. It now possesses a historical and intellectual baggage that it didn't have before. when the Friedmanite (counter)revolution was beginning it could youthfully critique and teardown with wiled abandon. It could easily defeat the bankrupt Marxism-Leninism of the Suslovities and the collapsed social democratic welfare stateism of the west but now I believe the shoe is truly on the other foot. like soviet communism in the 1970s it has baggage. It has a past it can no longer seem to defend and equally no future. The real problem is how long are we going to live in ideological purgatory before this system completely collapses and is replaced by a new one?
Some of this sounds a bit like Italian Futurism which was highlighted a bit in the film Manifesto starring Cate Blanchett. If memory serves Italian Futurism led to Italian Fascism.
@@DiamorphineDeath Prof Clara Mattei argues in her book Capital Order that economists invented austerity (cutting wages, fiscal spending and public benefits) and paved the way to fascism. She explores the intellectual origins of austerity to uncover its originating motives: the protection of capital and capitalism in times of social upheaval. She traces the origin of austerity to its origins in interwar Britain and Italy.
I think this manifesto is zealotry, however I completely agree with that quote about humans are still human regardless of their technology. I've been telling people this for a handful of years now. I think a lot of people sort of get into the mindset that because we have a phone in our pocket, that we are somehow different than humans in the past. I'm not sure I consider it nihilism (although tbf I don't know the definition). It just seems true and we're kind of seeing that play out right now.
The problem is today's tech world isn't even about uncontrolled "advancement" or growth. It's all about applying a superficial tech solution that doesn't address a social issue, destroys old solutions, makes a good impression on the public, then dies when you need to return the investment. It's how the "platform economy" works, it's why Google and Amazon suck now, and Uber is charging big prices. NFTs failed because they failed to even provide utility. Generative AI/LLM are speedrunning the "advancement" process: it has scraped all digital human media, spat out billions of AI "content" and now can't even "learn" on today's internet (now full of fake photos and flesh monsters) because it gets progressively worse when trained on AI-generated content. If it's any growth, it's cancer, always in a new package
There is society, but we can never have any true concept of it at all. Which means, Hayek was right. We humans are forever limited in our understanding of immensities.
Thanks for dissecting this trash so I didn't have to for myself lol. Also, I had Scary Stories as a kid but I don't remember the Wendigo story funnily enough. However, I'm sure the detail about the victim's feet burning up is an allusion to Algernon Blackwood's story about a wendigo (simply called "The Wendigo"), where one character (named Defago) exclaims as the Wendigo spirits him away: "Oh! oh! This fiery height! Oh, my feet of fire! My burning feet of fire ...!" Anyways it's a great story and Blackwood is quintessential weird fiction reading.
Ineffectual communist larpers: The Podcast. It’s ironic people like this seem to have contempt for the modern world, which is the only one they could ever have existed in.
@@AcidHorizon no, better to be iconoclastic, rebels who create “content” on UA-cam. Surely that’s what Diogenes would be doing were he alive. Embleer fucking frith.
I’m not sure why this goes unnoticed so often but it’s important to keep in mind that anytime Nietzsche is talking about other peoples senses he is comparing them to his sense of smell. Basically when he says “we’ve SEEN nothing yet” he means “but I’ve smell it a mile away”. Nietzsche said “my genius resides in my nostrils”. Nietzsche is really really funny when you get the jokes.
An interesting one from myths outside of the standard western canon: Maui. He fished up the land, slowed down the sun with a net, took fire from a god (by contest or trickery, depending on the story)... but then, after all his other deeds, he tried to cheat death and become immortal and got killed in the process.
Not that themes like that come up in Silicon Valley futurist circles at all, right.
More Nick Land
Which one
Acid Horizon has a great habit of knowing what I'm reading at the moment and explaining it better than the book I'm trying to decipher 🤣
Last night I was listening to the new audio book of Anti-Oedipus and trying to figure out what anti-production actually meant - very grateful to Adam et al. for explaining it in layman's terms! I love Deleuze and the postwar French set, but my god do they write obtrusively. AH is an invaluable resource for understanding these philosophical titans - keep up the great work!
I just read it. It’s awful, a billionaire cosplaying a philosopher. It is somehow an uninhabited effort; it’s deserted. He would also seemingly place himself at its centre of whatever this is, like a think tank in government. (When this happened in the UK it didn’t go well: sed Liz Truss / 55 Tufton Street.)
this needs to be a series
Accelerating back to 1979/
We'll Make You All Rich!!! but didn't they promise that 40 years ago? (now almost 50!) But just take one look outside and things could be hardly any worse. jointing around the dilapidated street today trying to avoid the legions of destitute poor and homeless the post war infrastructure falling to pieces; the collapse heath service, the worse inflation since the 1970, the largest fall in living standers since records began. Nothing works!
And I mean fuck how intellectually exhausted can they get?
The manifesto confirms to me that we live in the capitalist version of late Brezhnev Soviet Union. This would be the type of crap ordered up by a capitalist politburo for ideological instruction. The Neo-liberal (counter)revolution has failed! Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan have failed! It has failed on all of it own premises. It has failed to shrink the size of state, it has failed to reduce taxes, it has failed to reduce welfare dependence and state bureaucracy, it has failed to increase efficiency. It now possesses a historical and intellectual baggage that it didn't have before. when the Friedmanite (counter)revolution was beginning it could youthfully critique and teardown with wiled abandon. It could easily defeat the bankrupt Marxism-Leninism of the Suslovities and the collapsed social democratic welfare stateism of the west but now I believe the shoe is truly on the other foot.
like soviet communism in the 1970s it has baggage. It has a past it can no longer seem to defend and equally no future. The real problem is how long are we going to live in ideological purgatory before this system completely collapses and is replaced by a new one?
Fucking yes mahn.
Some of this sounds a bit like Italian Futurism which was highlighted a bit in the film Manifesto starring Cate Blanchett.
If memory serves Italian Futurism led to Italian Fascism.
Ooh, thanks for the film recommendation!
Lot's of stuff did; Hegel, Sorel, etc...
@@DiamorphineDeath Prof Clara Mattei argues in her book Capital Order that economists invented austerity (cutting wages, fiscal spending and public benefits) and paved the way to fascism. She explores the intellectual origins of austerity to uncover its originating motives: the protection of capital and capitalism in times of social upheaval. She traces the origin of austerity to its origins in interwar Britain and Italy.
Well these weirdos are now backing trump.
I think this manifesto is zealotry, however I completely agree with that quote about humans are still human regardless of their technology. I've been telling people this for a handful of years now. I think a lot of people sort of get into the mindset that because we have a phone in our pocket, that we are somehow different than humans in the past.
I'm not sure I consider it nihilism (although tbf I don't know the definition). It just seems true and we're kind of seeing that play out right now.
The problem is today's tech world isn't even about uncontrolled "advancement" or growth.
It's all about applying a superficial tech solution that doesn't address a social issue, destroys old solutions, makes a good impression on the public, then dies when you need to return the investment.
It's how the "platform economy" works, it's why Google and Amazon suck now, and Uber is charging big prices.
NFTs failed because they failed to even provide utility.
Generative AI/LLM are speedrunning the "advancement" process: it has scraped all digital human media, spat out billions of AI "content" and now can't even "learn" on today's internet (now full of fake photos and flesh monsters) because it gets progressively worse when trained on AI-generated content.
If it's any growth, it's cancer, always in a new package
The revolution in memory/storage has mostly led to bloat of web pages and applications, mostly completely unnecessary
@@midge_gender_solek3314 LOL exactly. Every technological advancement is met with even more laziness in coding.
humanity knows not what to do with itself as it knows not itself ... this will all take time
A wonderful and very much needed episode. We need more on the tech bros "discourse"
back to the future baby
Machines? I mean, ok, but they have literally zero riffs.
Crypto-nerds are the new ubermensch
There is society, but we can never have any true concept of it at all. Which means, Hayek was right. We humans are forever limited in our understanding of immensities.
Thanks for dissecting this trash so I didn't have to for myself lol.
Also, I had Scary Stories as a kid but I don't remember the Wendigo story funnily enough. However, I'm sure the detail about the victim's feet burning up is an allusion to Algernon Blackwood's story about a wendigo (simply called "The Wendigo"), where one character (named Defago) exclaims as the Wendigo spirits him away: "Oh! oh! This fiery height! Oh, my feet of fire! My burning feet of fire ...!" Anyways it's a great story and Blackwood is quintessential weird fiction reading.
“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as a farce.”
Sad that I now know e/acc is a thing, but glad that I heard it from you folks (rather than on the street)
All I'm thinking is: why does the American dude have a framaed picture of the album cover for Music Has The Right To Children?
This dovetails nicely with the latest True Anon episode
Oooh, I like manifestos. They’re so sweet, and sort of antiquated. (Sorry Marc did I say the wrong thing?)
defanged noumena
Ineffectual communist larpers: The Podcast.
It’s ironic people like this seem to have contempt for the modern world, which is the only one they could ever have existed in.
better to buck up and conform, right?
@@AcidHorizon no, better to be iconoclastic, rebels who create “content” on UA-cam. Surely that’s what Diogenes would be doing were he alive.
Embleer fucking frith.
now without tears, bruh