Harshly Judging Pete Rocks Beat Making Process
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Pete Rock is a legendary music producer and a harsh critic of hip hop culture. He passes judgement on a lot of things. So, I thought it would be fun to critique some of his beats. His beat making process is unique to modern day hip hop but we all can learn a thing or 2 from it.
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That Art of noise flip was ....... damn!
Yup classic joint.
I like the Block Beattaz version more but, 💯. Nobody gives those two credit man. Them and DJ Paul.
I grew up loving Art of Noise just because I was captivated by that video of the kid hacking that piano! 😳
Art of Noise was my group back n the day!!! "Moments in Love" was the name of the song AVE...LOL! I also listened to Enigma...they had the new sound of my time! Graduated in the early 80's and am a DJ..looked like he was using the Roland DJ-808 I have both that and the DJ-505 for my lightweight gigs! Enjoyed the video AVE...keep it coming Pete Rock is my idol and I also like DJ Premiere!
Yeah - I recognized it right away. Super dope flip. And yes, you should definitely get a 2000 Ave.
I like Ave McCree but Pete Rock is a GOD. You can't critique his beats. When he was making beats there was no knowledge base or UA-cam to learn from. Also his knowledge and exposure to Jazz records. Man this is something that you should not be doing. Back then he had to make his own drum kits not like the ones everybody downloads now. He's a pioneer. and time stretching wasn't as easy as it is now the MPC wasn't like the MPC we know today. Anybody can buy a MPC today and make beats but they are not doing what Pete Rock did
I agree with you. This whole thing is way overfamiliar.
@@ukbloke28 So because Technology is better and it was Harder for him to create that makes him a God 😂, I know Pete Rock is a Hip Hop Legend but God is a stretch and your reasoning is a stretch .
Not only that he making Pete rock type beats too he not slick lmao
@@pkizzlebeats Lmao😂
He’s a goofy! I’ve been on his ass for years. You’re right who the fuck does he think he is to “critique” a Legend then try to sugarcoat it and apologize for it. Stay on his ass, he’s totally out of pocket.
Just make the music however you want. You CANNOT hate on some one who makes all their music from scratch. You also CANNOT hate on someone who samples because you wouldn't be able to create hip from scratch without samples since hip hop started with sampling.
for sure my dude!
Most of the early rap records are live bands, then came drum machines. Sampling didnt become a common practice in hip hop until the mid to late 80's.
@@phillytnoize of course they used bands but if it wasn't for drum breaks and D.J. spinning records and sampling hip hop doesnt exist.
@@phillytnoize what early rap used live bands??? The main criticism of rap in the 80s by legendary ppl like Gene Simmons was that rap wasn't real music and wouldn't last because they DIDN'T use live bands and sampling was called "kids playing with computers."
@@ogralphbeats4035 do some research on the Sugar Hill Records house band who played on all of the stuff for Sugar Hill Records, and cats like Duke Bootee, Pumpkin and Larry Smith who were actual musicians. Rapper's Delight for instance is a live band replaying Chic "Good Times", not an actual sample. "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five was written and composed by Duke Bootee and contained no samples in the music. The people who had those criticisms didn't know what they were talking about.
Pete is on the Mount Rushmore of Beatmakers
Pete, Preme, Dre, (argue for the last spot) 🤷🏾♂️
No, he’s on YOUR Mt. Rushmore.
Gotta mention Pete's bass lines. Some of the dopest. Even the joints he played in those clips
true story
Known for having dope basslines and, clearly influenced Kev Brown.
@@MS-1 Alone Again one of the dopest baselines to me lol
@@Juline1221 Peep the sample progessiom in Maspyke`s Lightly Anxious. (Peeps from my hood back in 05' then peep Supastition`s Always produced by M-Phazes before he went pop).
Yea get the 2000XL
Respect Ave but niether the legendary Pete rock or the “community” needs you to rate and critique his beats.
This man been putting it down on a legendary level for over 2 decades. You just started making good beats last week my Nigga!
A million different angles you could’ve took on this video. A numbered rating for each beat wasn’t it
I am from the golden era, nothing better than digging in the crates and finding that perfect sample
Pete Rock’a resumé speaks for itself. Too many classics. Those beats on Smif n Wesson were nice as well.
Pete Rock has a bounce that is unique. He's one of the only producers that you have to go to to get his sound. Can't really mimic that bounce.
People still have a hard time replicating Pete's exact methods. Even the copy cats don't hit the same.
Pete Rock is the G.O.A.T.!! I've been a fan since the song Mecca & The Soulbrother!! His music is timeless!!
Most definitely on the 2000XL. Pete Rock is a legend. That record he put out back in the day was clutch for DJ's and MC's... especially at house parties.
Classic Pete rock is the sp1200 and s950 combo
Pete is just incredible. For real, that ear is untouched
All the beats he made for the main ingredient still hold it together today. Then again I’ve been a Pete fan for decades so I’m bias. I’ve seen him DJ many times and he kills it time after time.
All true hip hop fans feel the same way about Main Ingredient and Pete's music, it has nothing to do with biases.
I think the whole "sample" vs "original" debate is kinda funny. At the end of the day it's all art. There isn't any right or wrong way or one method being better than the other. I feel like as long as the artist your shopping your Beats to and the audience think it's fire that's all that matters.
Without Pete Rock there'd be know 9th Wonder.
I find it comical for UA-cam, bedroom beat makers to literally pass judgment on one of the most prolific producers of this genre. I find it hilarious that your average bedroom beat maker speak with such authority, as if they have ever been with connected people or have produced for the biggest artists of the genre, like Pete has. I guess I am showing my age. But critiquing Pete Rock is akin to critiquing Quincy Jones, when you just learned how to play a trumpet and make a UA-cam video about it. Blessings to all!
boy you preaching today … someone cool him off he on 🔥
@@Darie2006 ❤👊
Music is music whether sampling or original or the combination of both. Who cares as long as the music sounds good. I can’t believe we still argue about what”s better.
Pete is the goat Ave do not disrespect him he's many levels above you my g
How about you watch the video dip shyt!
Chill bro no need for name calling. you're the one that put the click baity title that you knew would trigger Pete rock fans
@@jontshyza Nah you chill and actually watch a video w/o being a whole stan for a dude who probably call your beats garbage!
@@AveMcree sheesh Ave 🤦🏽♂️ I like you're music too bro that's why I subscribe.... when I said he levels above I meant all of us.
@@jontshyza you are a dipshyt though. critiquing someone does not mean disrespecting someone. it's not ave's fault you don't know the meaning of words. it's not click bait at all.
To me sampled hip hop beats always sound better then original composition beats.
Word. ✊🏿
What people don’t seem to understand is that it’s all about texture. You can be a dope drummer and play the “Funky Drummer” beat lick for lick and I guarantee you that it wont sound like Clyde Stubblefield on that record!
@@mecca777 I think the word you're looking for is 'feel', if they played the same drum kit as Stubblefield at the same time, they'd be playing with the same sonic texture for the most part, but its wouldn't have the "feel" of Stubb.
@@MentalPistol tomato/tomoto ….it’s the same thing; you still get what I’m sayin.
@@MentalPistol Also, it’s not just the drummer and the drum kit, it’s the mics, mic placement, room acoustics, gear and mixing console etc.
I like original over samples but some people be killing the samples. I just love the originality of the producers' identity in original beats.
Yeah man he got JOINTS! Love his layering and bass lines. Personally met Pete in a beat cypher a couple years back (changed my life). Cool as hell. Learned a lot from that dude. Big respect! Ave, thanks for reminding folks about the masta teacha Pete Rock!!!! ….ha 🥋🥋🥋🥋🔥🔥🔥🔥
Moment of love - The art of noise
This dude is judging Pete rock and his shirt don’t even fit around his neck
So good to get a glimpse into Pete rock's world, the man is a sampling master.
Pete Rock is that n***a. Shout out to Mount Vernon NY.
T.R.O.Y. is still the best hip hop song ever made.
YESSUH! 🙌🏽👊🏽🙏🏽
And it's going to be tough to dethrone
That last beat was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 that bass line alone. Dope beat
@tegusentertainment8021 It will never be Dethroned.
I got into it with Pete on twitter over not buying records but using UA-cam to crate dig. I respect him but like I said to him then. I can’t travel the world and buy records like him. So UA-cam allows me to compete and hear music from all over the world.
I say let'em know about the MPC 2000XL. I bought one at the beginning of the year and left the Maschine. I haven't looked back since. It's a whole different expereicne working on the 2000XL. It really teaches you how to get the most out of what you sample and live with it to come up with something dope. With the new machines we can make tracks very quick however, we are giving up the full substance a sample can carry off of a record. My opinion if you're a sample based beat maker... is that you have to become a good curator of music and this just further helps with that skill. The last thing about the XL is the tone it gives off too. One thing I noticed that is greatly missed these days when we make music, is the texture of music.
I think you made two important points. Limitations make people think (and taking care) about their samples, compared to the endless space of a DAW. And older hardware samplers have unique sound that gives all tones a connecting texture.
Facts still have the 200xl
2000xl
“there is an art form to picking out samples” Co signed, “Endtroducing” by DJ Shadow, “Donuts” by the late J Dilla, and any of Gangstarr’s albums when DJ Premier was with Guru (hell _any_ track that Primo has touched {Come Clean by Jeru the Damaja is a clear example of Primo at work, the video is on his channel} ) are very clear examples of “artists” and the craft of sampling.
One of the iconic producers that got me wanting to be a producer
*PETE ROCK IS IN A MASTERFUL BEAT MAKING LANE OF HIS OWN. YOU CAN PUT A SOCK IN IT*
That Art of Noise sample was also used a lot from Krayzie Bone. Pete Rock sliced that sample to bits! 🔥🔥🔥
He kilt that joint
66 mafia sampled it too & about 3 more ppl
That 3rd & last track is banging!!! Geeez! 🔥 Pete's drums & bass lines are filthy like my timberland boots 😂🥾
When amateurs talk about professionals
Pete Rock and C.L Smooth.... Super Hot combination..... He was doing it back then for real... Everybody a beat maker but very few producers with their own lane like he had..
I think you should definitely get a 2000XL. It would be interesting to see your take on it and see what you create with it.
I definitely getting one for sure!
Is it safe to say that you're a Timberland fan because it shows in your facial expression and moments.
I’ve been trying to remake Pete’s beats and sometimes it feels impossible. He chops the samples up so much that they basically become new songs. Just try remaking Gimmie Yours by AZ, it’s a lot more difficult than it seems.
Lol what is this? What’d Pete do? And why won’t he go back to the 1200?…which gave him his trademark sound…
He still uses the 1200. Including the new Rossum 1200. ✌🏾
I wrote a big convoluted paragraph about sampling vs og composition... But then i erased it because what I really meant to say was: "You do you boo."
Exactly, whatever sampling and sampler(s) be it hardware or laptop, DAW and controller, do and use what you like
Pete Rock has a great feel for hiphop drumz honestly dont have to bang persay....definitely pioneering the game and hes the GOAT hands down
Lol so we gonna critique pete rock in this day and age ?
That’s was Art of Noise - MOMENTS IN LOVE fam!!!
Calm down you embarrassing yourself 😂
@@AveMcree definitely not.
The dude who bought a USB floppy drive to load samples into a MPC3000 the first time he tried one, before he even turned it on, dares to even THINK about Pete Rock’s process? Do one!!
Better than being like you in my comments like a real ho3😂smd!
Pete rock is one of my top favorite producers he’s a legend
Can’t judge Pete rock beats he’s a pioneer
Next: critiquing Michael Jordan
Pete still rocking on at 54 years old. A master at his craft. And yes, grab a 2000XL, great machine.
Hip hop has its roots in samples, I like to use samples and stack my own instruments on top of it. I hate on no one who actually has a passion for doing this, any way you choose to put your beats together. I've made whole tracks with just samples. If it sounds fire then it's fire.
Thank you for showcasing a Tru Masters body of work and creative process. I would love to have titles, if any, of the joints you showcased. Especially the joint with the Art Of Noise samples. Peace & Blessings🙏🏽
I hope that you are not using my brother for click bait🤔 You can have an opinion about his beats, but be easy on the click bait title.
EXACTLY.
Track 2 was a 10. For those who don’t know. Pete Rock was THE guy who turned beat making from simply DJing behind rapping into actual production. Legend. I like Pete’s modern sound too, let him cook.
Bruh. I like these. Gives different perspectives.Great video. Salute.
Dannnnnggg my man said Rocbattle! I was on that! Won a couple battles but got taken out final round. It was close tho
Pete Rock, Neptunes, Alchemist, Premo, 9th, Kanye, Timbo and Swizz all have shown proof they make their beats. Much love to them. Can’t claim to be the best baker and we’ve never seen you cook it up from scratch.
Stop mentioning Pete rock. U a Twitter judge that the net gives a sense of entitlement. Leave our og's alone!!!!!!!!
Your OG actually knows who I am. Can you say the same? 😂
@@AveMcree doggy ...
@@AveMcree knows of you my guy big difference
I love the way he manipulate his samples.
Sampling or original compositions at the end of the day you still got to know what the f*** you're doing.
factual
" I am about the same age as you" killed me 🤣🤣🤣. My mans had to let Pete know.
I finally saw that repost and he gave me props but tried to big bro me... lol it's all good but homie need to relax.
@@AveMcree 💀💀💀🤣👊. OFC he did lmfao this dude is wild fam
@@AveMcree He is that big bro through experience tho. Skill/experience/beats wise, there is still a huge gap between yourself and Pete
@@UncleBenjs yes very HUGE gap. He around the same age.. but Pete credentials overlaps Ave for miles..
@@lordeowstheking oceans
That Roland controller is cool af looks like it's got a step sequencer On it
Don't sleep on his brother Grap Luva.
1st beat is a glorious 9.5
2nd beat is a perfect 10
3rd beat is another 10
4th beat is a solid 10
5th beat is a 5
6th beat is a beautiful 10
This better be respectful that's all I know
My favorite beats are the minimalistic ones. That have one or two dope a$$ sample chops played throughout the song, heavy bass and drums with a crispy a$$ snare. Those are what I call “Slapperz” lol. (Ghostface Killah “One”) The best example.
I get it !
This guy is a producer or beat maker and a critic not in a bad way “so he thinks” The producers of today want some credit and are searching for recognition because they also have a little library for samples. I am going to say this for at that read. Pete rock is a walking hip history book. I really don’t think people know how far he goes back in Hip hop. The true art form of something so great at one time is hard to put into words. Do you know why he is so good at his craft???
Pete is a breathing, walking librariof music and it all started from him being a DJ !!!
Pete grew up around sounds m, practiced sounds and then created sounds.
Pete is a master. There are a select few who can be compared to Quincy Jones by legend status. Pete can.
Producers. Please stop bouncing your phone up and down. It’s nauseating, annoying, and looks stupid. It’s not cool, it doesn’t make your beat sound better, it only distracts.
Yes Ave get an mpc 2000xl get that or the sp1200
hip hop introduced and was birthed off sampling. the MPC pads were made to chop and sample. must be a new generation thing (to frown upon sampling). i got some samples that would blow your socks off...but i know they will get copyright strikes! lol i thought this was hip-hop! stop snitching on copyright samples! :)
Love your videos and they taught how to use my first MPC live II. I think you have to rename some of your UA-cam videos because I was expecting a harsh review but rightfully so it was a very positive review of these Pete Rock beats. You also had a previous video titled how confused you were with the Timberland interview but you only expressed confusion at the end of the video and it was only about financing and money. A little click bait is necessary I suppose. Thanks for your videos on the MPC live II. I have learned a lot from them. ✌🏿
This is gonna be controversial. Ave knew what he was doing when he made this. Ima grab my popcorn.
No disrespect to Pete Rock but in UK Hiphop there have been many, many, many beats exactly like this produced for over 20 years, infact this exact old school sample chop boom bap beats is still the preferred UK Hiphop sound, and I can list to you alot of examples of dope UK Hiphop producers work. Should be noted that UK Grime and Drill have always been separate from UK Hiphop.
aint no Pete Rock in the UK. Stop it
@@RnBGarvey No one as well known as Pete Rock or with the legacy, but I have been hearing beats just as good as this with the exact same old school MPC sample vibe in the UK for decades, they are probably inspired By Pete Rock and other OGs in the game anyway so not really a surprise.
He started this shit bro Pete been doin for 30 years
“What people are trying to do”…….is all you had to say in the beginning of the video and then just play Pete Rock clips after that statement.
sampling has evolved to making something original and then resampling it. make a chord progression, sample it, chop it and pitch/process. it’s all about context.
I don't mind samples at all. I love Pete Rock beats, however, I enjoy his older stuff over most of his newer stuff. Most..not all of his beats have become not very interesting. Then he hits you with one or two that let you know he's still the master.
He made The Joy. He could never do no wrong
I think you should get a 2000xl.. for the simple fact that it's a iconic unit that has made some of the biggest records we all come to love.. plus the simplicity of that unit forces your creative hand to to water into wine..😂🤣
“And critic” ... Don’t know why, this part got me dude. 😂
What is that sample and beat at the 1:09 mark ? What is that sample he's using does any body know ?
king mcree strikes again
That last joint was sick!!!
Dang.....Rocbattle????? Bro I remember back in the day winning some of those battles! the percentage ratings were serious back in the day! They still up and running?
What is Pete Rock channel?…had a brief search but do you have a actual direct link please?
Correction brother... That's Art Of Noise "Moments In Love "
Ave lost his mind talking shit, scoring Pete Rocks beats!😂?? WTF don’t be foolish now son!
Lol I love ur content ave but I just can't possibly hear you do this with someone like pete rock..I assume there's a twist to this...we all know thered be no griselda without people like pete rock period. It was like 1 minute I made it.
I use to have a 2000 back in the day and it was a great machine,you would spend hours chopping and pitching samples and breaks making things fit and maybe that’s the difference with todays Mpc’s because they are so powerful and quick people don’t spend time properly manipulating the sample with either pitch or chops or whatever , todays auto slice and time stretch is so easy that if if ain’t working we can throw it away and start again but back then we committed so much time to a sample that we would make it work as starting again would mean chucking hours and hours away and also not having the sample fit perfectly was sometimes the magic of the track . Ps Ave definitely get an MPC 2000xl if you can.
Outside of the beat sonics, the craftsmanship of his sample manipulation. Making those chops sound seamless. The drum selection marrying the drums and samples. Minimalist yes, but definitely crafty.
The Art Of Noise - Moment in Love
Confessions of love? Moments of love G!! Come on!
AVE!!!!???? Don't talk about that shit you don't understand man! Lets listen to your shit, anybody?!
Pete Soul Brother No1
Come clean AVE
Dope video Ave, only if Ave Mcree had a boom bap tutorial video. Definitely get the XL these young punks need a history lesson.
The title of this video is wild
Leave the legend alone…….
Pete Rock is nice. He's sampling skills are amazing.
Dope breakdown brother
Big Pete Rock fan drums and sampling at a high level...I'm not feeling the old mpc no more had a 2000xl, 3000, 1000 black.
Right at the end Ave. That Beat Was Nasty AF. Best one on this video ;-)
why didn't he plug the music in instead using a open phone js