Are "All Religions Equal"?
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In the Gospels, we also find Jesus’ disciples complaining about how His teachings are confusing and unclear. But, “Let those who have ears, hear.”
No
And believe in my works if you can't believe in me and eventually they will see they are the same
There's a difference when Jesus said it and when Pope Francis said it.
One of the most pressing issues in Catholicism is the lack of the will to learn about Catholicism and Christ, but having more than enough energy to get caught up in drama.
Amem
I agree, but priests, and especially bishops, also have a moral obligation to ensure they teach those people about Catholicism rather than staying silent.
Boom shakalaka!!! As I keep saying, how "trad" is it really to live in the internet down a deep rabbit hole with Ben Shapiro.
@@blaisemacpherson7637 The popes statement would have been less controversial if he had just added "every religion except Mormonism".
I would have thought the unwillingness to read the Bible @@veemo8830 Goosh, there is no list of 10 Commandments anywhere in the Bible, and no one ever gets the first line of Genesis right, let alone know the last line of the Bible.
Thank-you! My own path to come into the fold has been through a lifetime of searching and following faiths other than Christianity. These included Hinduism, Buddhism, Advaita and Daoism. It was apparently necessary for me to walk that long, winding path of seeking God to finally come home to The Living Truth. You explained it all very clearly.
@@SusannaBearfoot1 Good for you. God bless you 🙏
Advaita is a school of Hinduism
As a Presbyterian, I understood what the Pope meant and don't understand why he is questioned??? He is spreading the word and trying to build relationships with other religions and cultures. Some in his own religion need to put aside their arrogance and start listening to him. He is a good man!!!
💯 from a RC
@jimscott5705 , when a heritic agrees with him while true catholics don't, then there's something wrong with his statement undoubtedly.
I agree. My parents are non denom, basically baptists, and they just take these statements the worst way possible.
@@sethw7399 @tis pitiful, if only we could understand the word of the Lord God as it is, love thy neighbour, do no harm.
I agree, Pope Francis would make a very suitable Presbyterian pastor
All airplanes will fly. Not all of them will get you to your destination.
I dabbled in Unitarian Universalism and pagan worship. It led to bad things. It did not led to life or God. No, all religions do not lead to God.
I am now in OCIA and focus on right worship of the one God.
You were searching. Now you are getting to your destination. God writes straight with crooked paths. St. Paul was going to persecute Christians on the road to Emmaus, but that's where he met Christ. St. Paul later addressed the pagans saying they were already worshipping the "Unknown God." God can do a lot with someone who is moving in faith. He can redirect them to the right path. You see it time and again with converts.. I think the harder challenge are the apathetic people who just vegetate and give no thought to anything spiritual. God bless you.
Didn't they though? You are in OCIA so for you they were stops on your path to finding God in his fullness.
My path was from secular humanism, through the Church of Christ (theologically and, in my case, literally next door to Unitarian Universalism), to starting RCIA. When I started my faith journey after considering that God was trying to call me to Him, I consciously decided to let it lead me wherever it went and it took me exactly where I needed to go. I needed to meet Jesus in a church that taught from a perspective of moral relativism because that was the hybrid of where I was and where I was going.
If you always do what you’ve always done; you’ll always get what you’ve always had. 🙏
This was a great teaching. One that I will watch over and over again because you explained my life of practicing Pure Land Buddhism for the last 25 years ( while also studying Sufi Islam, Hinduism, Taoism, and Christianity ) which just recently led me back to the Catholic Church.
All of my practice and studies lead me to Christ Jesus.
Thank you for this teaching.
You make me want to be a Catholic. I'm a baptized Episcopalian and I love it. But I'm also learning more about Catholic traditions like the sacred heart.
Look on your local parish website and look into their RCIA program. It is the program through which you can learn about Catholicism in an in depth way, with the opportunity to asked questions and learn more than you would on your own. You don’t HAVE to accept confirmation if you don’t feel ready by the end, but that will be the best away to help you go forward.
It would still be helpful for Pope Francis to clarify himself on these matters instead of just saying something confusing and refusing to elaborate further.
Sorry but isn't that just how popes and Catholicism have always been? Saying unclear things and talking like politicians? Kinda making it up as they go, painting the church in to a corner?
Clarify how? Because only some of you are confused. Many of us Catholics in Southeast Asia understood what he meant.
And the funny thing is, you will not be aware of it if it is not made as a headline by his detractors. You are just joining the bandwagon.
Go study in Catholic schools, esp Jesuit schools. Surround yourself with people from other religions (not just protestantism). Be involved in ecumenism, esp with other main religions, not just protestantism and other similar cults, and you will understand fully what Pope Francis mean.
Pope Francis is from South America, and prone to explain himself in terms of "English Law" vs previous Popes who explain themselves in terms of "Italian Law"
The general explanation of the difference between the two ways of thinking about law.
In English Law when there is a Red Stop light you stop at the light until it turns green even if there is no traffic.
Italian Law you can drive past the red light because it is obviously safe to do so and the reason for the light isn't needed at the moment.
Western Europeans and those from the Americas had interpreted many of the previous Popes statements as solid fixed laws. While Francis is trying to explain the neuance of the topic in ways that English Law can follow.
This however rubs a lot of people the wrong way as they were hoping for an easier direct answer to a more complicated issue.
We need the next Pope to be someone who understands the implications of living in the Information Age. I love Pope Francis but he doesn't understand the "Headline Era* of news and the death of nuance.
It's pretty obvious to anyone that has read the Catechism... Pope Francis didn't say anything weird or controversial, people just want to misunderstand him on purpose
My path was from secular humanism, through the Church of Christ (theologically and, in my case, literally next door to Unitarian Universalism), to starting RCIA. When I started my faith journey, after considering that God was trying to call me to Him, I consciously decided to let it lead me wherever it went and it took me exactly where I needed to go. I needed to meet Jesus in a church that taught from a perspective of moral relativism because that was the hybrid of where I was and where I was going.
Same here! I was baptized as an adult into the Episcopal church. I needed to go somewhere that was a stepping stone from secular humanism. I am now in RCIA as well!
I would very much like a statement from Pope Francis like, "I was speaking off the cuff, and I wasn't as clear as I ought to have been: I said, 'All religions ARE a path to God,' but it would have been more accurate to say, 'All religions CAN BE a path to God.' To say they 'can be' implies potentiality, while saying they 'are' implies an absolute state of being, which is incorrect."
@RealSeanithan , but sadly, I think he said what he actually meant.
@ar3728 It's certainly possible. The way I see it is he either meant it how it sounded or he didn't. If he did not, it would be nice to get clarifying statements (not later contradictory statements that we can enter as evidence in the argument, but actual clarifications). If he did, then it's an awesome example of how the pope is actually allowed to be wrong and it doesn't undermine the Church at all: even St. Peter got some pretty big stuff wrong a couple times (which St. Paul references in Galatians). Heck, Peter even kind of apostatized for a few minutes once.
That's exactly my thought aswell. Why can't he clarify himself. He knows he has been misunderstood by millions. Yet he doesn't feel the need to correct himself. It's always the vatican spokesperson or other catholic priests who have to step in like: AcTUalLy tHIS iS wHAt hE MEanS. Isn't he the vicar of Christ? shouldn't it be his responsibility to find clear words? So confusing.
As a Buddhist, I’m gonna advance Buddhism. I’m not going to pretend to treat Christianity as the same as my Faith. I don’t hate Christians, but the battle of religion is a game of numbers and supremacy.
In the end, we tolerate each other because of the nature of today’s society, and we should be grateful for that. But I’m still gonna stand up for what I believe in. Gotta be honest.
Could you elaborate on how the Buddha's teachings on cessation of desire are compatible with compassion and other good values?
Because having been a Buddhist myself I couldn't accept his supposed solution to suffering through cessation of desire. He claimed that desire created suffering in as much as it could never be fulfilled and could be disappointed if not satisfied. Therefore prescribing us to cease all desires.
My problem is that ceasing all desires first and foremost is a desire in itself, so the system is self contradictory. If I fail to achieve the goal that all of Buddhism is about I will suffer from that thought right?
Moreover, how could I desire the good of my neighbor, have compassion, if desires are what's keeping me in this endless cycle of birth and rebirth, attached to this present world? Does that not mean that achieving nirvana must by necessity be an egotistical path since I will not be able to achieve it unless I stop desiring the good of others?
These are some reasons I cannot take Buddhism seriously.
WOW Mr Roseguy, you’re a breath of fresh air in this forum. With attitudes & thinking like yours, universal peace & tranquility would only be a step away. Keep banging the drum 🙏
That makes sense. Thank you for explaining it!
CCC 843 states "other faiths" not "all faiths" and that these other faiths "search for God" not "path to God". These distinctions are important because many faiths are violently hostile to Christ and many popes have made statements to this effect when discussing Islam and Judaism. As a practical matter, it does not hold true that the more entrenched one is with their false religion, the more likely one will be to convert to Christianity. I would say, it's nearly always the opposite where missionaries are able to mass convert the simple people throughout history. Therefore, the "truth" found in these religions is adherence to charity and the natural law, not their false religious dogmas and doctrines. It should also be clear that these false religions are not the source of these truths. As the Bible teaches, the truth of charity and natural law is etched onto our hearts even when we do not know God. In short, these false religions are simply not necessary to even exist.
Finally, OP omits some other important issues to discuss here. Pope Francis referred to all people as Children of God directly contradicting Scripture. Pope Francis also called the diversity of religions a gift from God which implies God's active will in these false religions, which is false. The Vatican attempted to deceive the world by mistranslating Pope Francis' words because they knew it wasn't orthodox, got caught, and then tried again, got caught, and still deceives today. Pope Francis, despite the huge controversy, refused to correct or clarify himself leading OP to make "assumptions" about what he meant.
It's really a shame that people are trying to justify what the pope clearly spoke.
The worst of all is that it is actually the pope's duty to clarify things on matters of faith and not the other way around.
What he said is extremely scandalous. Throughout history, people were accused of heresy for much less.
Whew! Posted only 6 hours ago and it has nearly 7,000 views! St. Paul's Mars Hill discourse springboards off what the people there were already doing. Thanks for jumping into the fray and straightening things out.
THE DOGMATIC CONSTITUTION ON THE CHURCH: “Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.”
@Catholicity-uw2yb. What u quoted is Lumen Gentium 16. The key word is "MAY". So nobody is sure they will he saved. Its up to God to decide. But Lumen Gentium 14, Dominus Jesus, CCC 845 all pointed to the teaching There is No Salvation Outside The Catholic Church. This is the sure path to Salvation in Jesus Christ. All other paths are "MAY".
@@jeremiahong248 ST. POPE JOHN PAUL II: “The universality of salvation means that it is granted not only to those who explicitly believe in Christ and have entered the church. Since salvation is offered to all, it must be made concretely available to all. But it is clear that today, as in the past, many people do not have an opportunity to come to know or accept the Gospel revelation or enter the Church. The social and cultural conditions in which they live do not permit this, and frequently they have been brought up in other religious traditions. For such people salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace, which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his Sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit. It enables each person to attain salvation through his or her free cooperation.”
@@jeremiahong248 ST. POPE JOHN PAUL II: “Christ obtained, once and for all, the salvation of man - of each and of all men, of those whom no one shall snatch from His hand...
Who can change the fact that we are redeemed - a fact that is as powerful and fundamental as creation itself. We became again the property of the Father thanks to that love which does not recoil from the shame of the Cross to be able to guarantee salvation to all men. ‘No one shall snatch you out of my hand. (John 10:29) The church announces today the paschal certitude of the resurrection, the certitude of salvation.”
WOW!!! I’m positive Yeshua never said, implied, taught, suggested, thought, intermated, ”There is No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church”. And I don’t believe God would EVER think the same. This has to come from the fanciful idolised indulgent ignorance of man, and man alone. 🙏
Thank you Father, you're one of the reasons I'm now a catholic catechumen. God bless, from Denmark
Matt 23:9 🙏
Thank you for making this video. As always, a sound of reason as a minor character.
Thanks be to God!
From Singapore who attended the mass and living in a multi racial city/state/coubtry, God Bless You ❤
You're Popesplaining, Francis said "All religions are paths to ARRIVE AT God", and a few days later, "Every religion is a gift from God", and then once again a few days later, "Divine inspiration is present in every faith".
Yes, the point is that other religions can contain a piece of the truth of God, though they lack the rest. Also, saying that a religion is a path to God does not necessarily mean that it is a path to salvation. A man raised in a Muslim family can use his knowledge and experience of Islam to find Christ
But wouldn't any path that has any movement towards God have Divine inspiration and therefore also be a gift from God? Afterall we are totally unable to save ourselves, we are saved by Grace. So if the first statement is correct, it seems like the other two statements are accounted within that. For example, we just do think that this is true of Judaism, and it doesn't interfere with a fourth statement; "But isn't isn't all of Truth," and a fifth, "Jesus is the culimation of Faith." So idk man, it makes sense to me.
@@CatholicElectricianso praying to a magic stone in the desert 5 times a day is a way to arrive at God? Interesting.
@@artifexdei3671 Putting aside your straw man, yes even that is better than being raised as a devout atheist for example. At least the former shows an openness to God and to prayer and devotion. That doesn’t mean it’s a saving faith, but it is a path that can lead you to God
@@CatholicElectrician WOW!!! mr CatholiceElectrican what amazing sense of pride you have. So much so you’re at least a MHz above “syncing to the network”. Your comment implies the RCC has it all & lacks nothing. The sad TRUTH is every “religion” lacks & hasn’t got it all.
If Matt 11:27 is correct, it proves the RCC is going up a one way street the wrong way. The only way to know the Son is - through - the Father 🙏
Well said Fr. Casey. Amazing theological explanation. I never cease to be amazed by the intellectual and spiritual depth of Catholicism
Yep, it was great, wasn’t it ? Now, which cup is the pea under.
I needed to hear this, thank you.
I think the hearers of his words will take it that they're just fine on the path they're on.
And that is the real problem here.
Oh you explained things perfectly
Imitating Muhammad may lead people to Christ? Are you freaking kidding me? Have you read of the things that man did?
A religion can have flaws along with its merits. Do you think it’s never happened even once that Islam has instigated someone to live a more moral life in any capacity ?
@tobiasyoder Nazism also had flaws and merits. I would not use it as an example to reach the ideals of a perfect nation!
@@playasurf1000 I think it would be much more challenging to find the merits of teachings of nazism compared to Islam.
And just preemptively - you'd need to cite merits of nazism teachings *not* flaws in Islams teachings
No, that's literally what he said. I don't understand why some catholics insist on gaslighting people that what they heard didn't happen rather than at the very least admit Pope Francis made a mistake which even his translators caught and tried to mistranslated after they did. If the argument is that it is not what he meant, a clarification and not a double down is what's needed, not some "from a certain point of view" lie.
Why? Because we insist on trying to interpret him in the most charitable way possible, while others are disposed to take his words in the worst way possible. Remember Fiducia Supplicans, where what was being said was perfectly orthodox and yet everybody was importing definitions without the context trying to say consecrating gay unions is okay now?
I will admit that if Francis’s words to the Singaporean youth are not in error, they are at least very misleading. At first glance I was inclined to think that technically all religions are “ways of arriving at God” at least in attempt, not to say whether they are successful or not.
@@killianmiller6107
Interpretation implies there is some ambiguities on what he has said, and I have no trouble correcting people who that. This and many other cases aren't that, however. This is like me saying I like to punch kids and then my family insisting that what I actually meant was that I like to pinch kids. You lying about what is being said because you feel some loyalty to me doesn't suddenly change what I said and repeated. All this inability to recognize the mental gymnastics you are engaging in to not admit the pope is wrong here is doing is giving sedes and protestants easy arguments to ignore other proper defenses of the pope because, as I said, no matter what you want to twist it into you aren't defending what he said but what you wish he had said.
Thank you Fr. Casey for the clear explanation as always.
It is a nuanced understanding that is required for this idea. Let's continue to pray for the Pope.
Excellently said, Father. Thank you.
The only role MuhamMAD has played on somebody's salvation was by causing their martyrdom when they reject islam to the face of those fanatics
Plato and the Stoics led me to God. And the Bible led me to His Church.
Thank you father!
Matt 23:9 🙏
Come on Father Casey, if the pope said that he thinks he is from Mars, you would probably say well that might explain why his skin is kind of reddish. After all, he is your boss, and you probably are hoping for your next boss to be much easier to explain, so as to bring Catholicism back into better focus, in order for you to get back to being a regular friar instead of the pope's PR man.
I don’t even see what he said as controversial. I showed very clearly that in this video that it’s straight from our official teaching.
This explanation is true but the way Pope Francis said this was confusing and sounded like he was being universalist. As Pope he should know that his words are important and so he should plan them out better.
He isn't a native italian speaker, so that may be why. But yes I agree with you
Yes the English translation being changed then changed back looked super suspicious- like the translators were trying to cover him.
Catholics should understand that their faith is important and learn about it, the Pope didn't say anything confusing or universalist, people just are badly catechized. If they're adults, that's entirely their responsibility.
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 What Francis said was: Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio. “All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” Msgr. Christopher Washington of the Secretariat of State’s English Section did an admirable job rendering the off-the-cuff remark in the moment, offering: “Every religion is a way to arrive at God.”
I don’t think it’s poor for Catholics to question this statement. The Pope is being misunderstood if he didn’t mean universalism so he should come out and clarify his position which should be the position of the Church.
These comments were explicitly off script,
Various faiths and beliefs have some truth to them but Christianity lines up the most with reality
no bro there are other religions too
@@suvendusharma5638 That's what l said
Even a broken clock is right sometimes lol.
Even the devil is right sometimes. Even the Pope is wrong sometimes. We are just making up excuses at this point, why not just say the pope was having a Biden moment and say we should let this one slide, he was just having a bad day.
We are in a simulation. All religions are false.
Thank you very much for this!
While other religions could lead their followers to Jesus, and thus salvation, I find it a rare occurrence and thus we should educate those of other religions to join with us in our tradition of salvation through Jesus Christ. The church doctrine only speaks of the possibility, not the actual chances or odds of it occurring.
when he states left wing Ideals in his tours, I fear our Pope Francis may be a Communist.
If he is a communist I believe the Holy Spirit in God's Church will guide him to prepare us for Jesus's Final coming
Left-wing ideals like?
I certainly appreciate you breaking that one down Father.
Matt 23:9 🙏
Why can't pope clarify... As a Protestant who is searching for catholism it really confuses and made a small hault😢
Please reconsider this is just the tip of the iceberg. Don’t compare the best of Catholicism to the worst of Protestantism. Every church has problems none of us are infallible or perfect
Learn further. Do not base your understanding in just one statement by the Pope.
Yea don't get hung up on one little thing. Keep studying. It's all part of growing in faith. If you don't understand delve deeper. The pope didn't say anything untrue but it seems the problem is what he DID NOT say. People are filling in the blanks woth their own ideas and concerns without thinking about it or reading further.
Popes St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI said similar things in interreligious dialogues. The Church have never had the need to clarify. The apostles decided new dogma and gave them to the faithful to follow without questioning. That is Catholicism. If you are a convert you may feel confused because you have not fully converted yet.
Why do you think Protestants exist? They protest for good reason, not just to be contrarians.
As a Catholic it’s hard to see people defending everything the pope says. We have to pray for him of course but also realize the damage he is doing. He holds the chair of Peter and needs to be held to a higher standard, everything he says carries weight and he has a record for poorly choosing verbiage. His papacy has a purpose but I don’t believe he is a good pope.
But that isn't what he said, and why many are calling it out. He said all religions are a path to reach God. This is just simply incorrect. They aren't. I get the desire to be charitable because he is the Pope, but he even used the example of languages to reach God. This was also at a multi-faith conference I believe, and clarity is CRITICAL in these environments.
No, all the religions in the world do NOT say the same thing. Christianity is unique in that it says God came to us, in our brokenness, in our fallen state, in a world cruel and miserable, to reach US. It's the complete reverse. We don't arrive at God, because we can't. We needed the Savior to SAVE US, not for us to save ourselves by climbing up to the heavens. Other religions offer a means to live life in order to reach "a god" or nirvana, etc. They do not offer you a God who comes to you. This is a BIG difference that is most important in a format like this.
Popes are not perfect, mispeak, misunderstand, etc. etc. The near veneration of Popes has been a severe weakness in the church that has led to issues throughout the years.
I tell you, on the day of judgment you will have to give an account of every careless word you utter, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.
💯 per - cent 👍👏. 🙏
People are too quick to condemn and misunderstand than to take a step back and think. I’m a Christian convert from Islam and not everyone in Islam deserves the lake of fire. My aunt in Bangladesh has a kind soul and always does the right thing. She never heard of Jesus and there isn’t much bibles in Bengali. How can such a kind hearted woman go to hell just for never hearing of the Gospels? Because we all have a moral law in our hearts and she definitely follows that.
When I first heard this nonsense of the RCC being the only one true church, I knew instinctively that God would not deny 150,000 years of Aboriginal existence in Australia, or for that matter any indigenous peoples, just because they didn’t have the “gospels.” Remember, pride comes before the fall. 🙏
Francis is in pretty solid company here.
Justin Martyr says that righteous Jews who lived before Christ would be saved. He later said the same of Gentiles, that those who act "pleasing to God" while not "being" Christian are nonetheless "in" Christ, the Logos. "Each one shall be saved by his own righteousness."
Gregory of Nazianzus went even further. In his Funeral Oration for his father: "Just as there are many of our own who are not with us..." (he means you, Rad Trads) "so too there are many of those outside who really belong to us. They lack only the name of that which they already possess."
Saint Augustine? "Altogether we are members of Christ and are His Body throughout the world, from Abel..." (hardly a practicing Roman Catholic?) "until the end of time, all the just are this one Body of Christ."
In other words, as Father Casey points out, we're simply back to the old "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" gig ("there is no salvation outside the Church"). Are you not "saved" if you are not a post-Jesus practicing Catholic? Or if you are "saved" does that mean you are "in the Church", no matter whether you or anyone else knows it? Justin means the latter... , while not "being" Christian are nonetheless "in" Christ.
All Francis did here was to gently demonstrate his vast knowledge of our most ancient and firmly rooted theology on this matter. Which is, of course, why the theologically illiterate on the right are going into conniptions.
(And on a linguistic note, to my friend DarkBlade below, Father Casey pronounced Lumen Gentium with the "G" as it is pronounced in Ecclesiastical Latin; the hard "G" is only used by the English in England - they have an entirely different pronunciation system, unto pronouncing "Pacem in Terris" as "Packem" - and in German non-Ecclesiastical Latin).
Great Fr. Casey, you're a good shepard!
In this context, such a statement should be shared in private with mature Christians, and even then only after making ample time to ensure proper context and explanation. For the head of the Catholic Church to say so in public to a group of non-Christians is deeply irresponsible.
For Catholics to know so little about Catholicism that they misunderstood the words is what's irresponsible.
Agreed, there is no room for confusing public statements from a Pope.
Please excuse Pope Francis for he might have been too exhausted and said something not quite right to cause this confusion. Please understand he has a very tiring trip visiting 4 countries non stop. We should appreciate him for what he has done despite his age and health.
@@AW-tc4hy We can and should forgive him for this statement like any other controversial or confusing statements he made in the past. But wouldn't it be nice to at least get some aknowledgement from him personally regarding the confusing nature of the satement? Shouldn't he make every attempt to be clear in the message he wants to convey? How do you plan to convince people of the truth with repeatedly confusing statements? It happens any other day, and the vatican needs to popesplane so that the common people do not misunderstand him. If he can't be responsible with his words anymore, maybe he should consider abdicating like Pope Benedict XVI. I will pray for him.
Group of non-christians, actually rather than that is a group of devout believers of their respective religions. It was during a dialogue for interreligious harmony for the young adults in singapore.
Thank you, Father
I was surprised people didn't know about this, this is one of the reasons why i converted to catholicism.
Jesus taught that there is only one true religion. - True worshippers would be hated. John 15:18, 19 - If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you.
I have had this intuition for a long time. It is finally true
It’s been true, people just didn’t do the study to understand it,
@@codename495 you are right they don't. Especially people who love their fal$e religion$, like the children present. They clapped and agreed with him. Do you think they doubted their religion even a millisecond? No they felt better about themselves like: "even the leader of christianity agrees with my Allah" what about repentance? What aout compassion for the misguided? I am afraid that these children take what he said at face value and never really come to understand what he ACTUALLY meant. Not only them but all non-believers.
The problem with this approach is that there is no reason to take a second step. If you’re told your religion is fine why bother investigating another one?
Pope Francis should have stated this more clearly or explain himself afterwards.
Immediately when I saw this title, "Dominus Iesus," even that quote, came into my mind. The declaration, "Dominus Iesus," was written by Cardinal Ratzinger, (later known as Pope Benedict XVI), in the year 2000, signed by Pope John Paul II. The way Cardinal Ratzinger thought about this issue can be clearly seen in his book, "Pilgrim Fellowship of Faith," especially in his exchange with Orthodox Metropolitan Bishop Damaskinos. Every Catholic and Protestant should read the Declaration "Dominus Iesus!"
When a JW comes to my door, I am using the Scriptures and the ideas of the Creeds that is talked about in the Declaration...along with the Scriptures in "Kingdom of the Cults," by Walter Martin, and "Handbook of Today's Religions," by Josh McDowell and Don Stewart...since I am a Christian, yet not a Catholic in the denominational sense.
Very simply:
Christ is the only bridge to The Father. People who sincerely seek The Father will reach Him by crossing the bridge, whether they realize they are crossing the bridge or not.
To further the analogy; The Church provides a lighted path across the bridge. It is the only *sure* way across, but it is not the only way across. Far better to walk on the lighted path with guardrails, though.
Jesus - the Way the Truth the Life. His virgin birth, death, resurrection & ascending into heaven-He is Jesus the Messiah. One must believe in Him. This doesn't mean you yell & scream at non Christians. If you do that, ur not winning them to Jesus. Thank you Father Casey
Remember that episode of King Of The Hill where Bobby becomes Buddhist
Father you ate that 🏆❤
Thank you for the clarification
Sadly too many red flags on Lefty Francis..
Thanks for sharing.
I interpreted what the pope said just like you’re describing it when I first heard it. I understand that what he said will be misinterpreted by some people, but I don’t think that should make us shy away from supporting our pope in those circles.
Once we all are good to one another, what else matters!
I'll tell you that if you are good to others but you publicly deny The God Father All-Mighty, Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, so your deeds are meaningless and you won't be saved and that this is what the Faith teachs.
@@ar3728 I am doomed so according to you. I stand a better chance of seeing the Lord God than you will IMO. I believe in God, I have never denied that, you are one of those people who assumes and we all know that assumptions are the mother of all eff ups. You obviously know nothing about God’s Word, nothing. Listen to the Word of God, practice tolerance, love they neighbour.
@smiley9872 , search for the meaning of "IF".
@@smiley9872you begin a tirade about not making assumptions by assuming that you are better than the commenter. So much better that “ in your opinion” you will have a better chance of seeing God. That honey bun is Hubris, a deadly sin. In reality your opinion is completely irrelevant to the salvation of anyone you included because YOU ARE NOT A GOD. God doesn’t need you, or me or any of us and he most certainly doesn’t need to take opinion from humanity into account.
@@codename495 thank you, I forgive you!
Father-
When Our Lord stated “I have sheep that are not in this fold”, wasn’t this a reference to the Gentiles, who would later enter the Church, since He was speaking to a Jewish audience ?
Also- is there a tendency to misuse Vat II Documents as an excuse for not preaching the Gospel ? I believe the Holy Father is more than capable of sharing the Good News of Jesus without beating someone over the head with it.
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Here's the thing though, the Pope is really duty bound to be clear on matters of the faith. Clarity is kindness. I'm a Protestant, but I feel for my Catholic brothers and sisters on this. It would be best for everyone for the Pope to clarify his statement and alleviate all this confusion.
Paul’s Speech at the Areopagus. 22 Then Paul stood up at the Areopagus and said:[f]
“You Athenians, I see that in every respect you are very religious. 23 For as I walked around looking carefully at your shrines, I even discovered an altar inscribed, ‘To an Unknown God.’[g] What therefore you unknowingly worship, I proclaim to you. 24 The God who made the world and all that is in it, the Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in sanctuaries made by human hands, 25 nor is he served by human hands because he needs anything. Rather it is he who gives to everyone life and breath and everything. 26 He made from one[h] the whole human race to dwell on the entire surface of the earth, and he fixed the ordered seasons and the boundaries of their regions, 27 so that people might seek God, even perhaps grope for him and find him, though indeed he is not far from any one of us. 28 For ‘In him we live and move and have our being,’[i] as even some of your poets have said, ‘For we too are his offspring.’ 29 Since therefore we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the divinity is like an image fashioned from gold, silver, or stone by human art and imagination. 30 God has overlooked the times of ignorance, but now he demands that all people everywhere repent 31 because he has established a day on which he will ‘judge the world with justice’ through a man he has appointed, and he has provided confirmation for all by raising him from the dead.”
Acts 19
Maybe the people who complain about Pope Francis not being clear just don't know their own faith. I (obviously) wouldn't have put it as elequently as Father did, but I understand the relationship God has with other religions. Good explanation, Father.
Unquestionably the best defense of the pope's comments I've seen to date. I'll have to consider this very heavily.
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Nostra Aetate (In Our Time), the Latin name by which The Second Vatican Council's Declaration on the Relation of the Church to Non-Christian Religions is known, formalized an expanded attitude of "dialogue" with other religions. Thank you father Casey for defending our mother church and the Pope. My prayers for you and all.
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Very well explained, Fr. Casey! Thank you for shedding light on what Pope Francis said. God bless you more abundantly.🙏🙏🙏
Of course the possibility of a non-catholic (even an entirely non-christian) escaping damnation exists. The question is whether that's a point that should be brought up unpromtped to people who are outside the Church. It's like jury nullification: in a theoretical court of law, the guaranteed way to reach a non-guilty verdict is for the state to fail to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. However, there does exist the option of jury nullification. There is no guarantee of jury nullification happening, and the court is forbidden to tell the jurors about that option, but the possibility exists.
That is, when speaking, we ought to say, "There is no salvation outside the Church. Your salvation can not be guaranteed if you are outside the Church." Then, when someone takes you aside alone and says, "But is it possible for a person outside the Church to be saved?" You answer, "Yes, it is possible. Christ gave us His Church as the vehicle for salvation, just as He gave us the Sacraments as vehicles for us to receive graces, but while we are bound to these methods, He is not, and just like He can confer grace on whomever He will, He can also confer salvation on whomever He will."
We are ALLLLLL🌎 made in the image of GOD ✅ - GOD (Universe, Source, Light, Word... whatever want to call "I am") 💫 brings us closer to Him in His way and time as He sees fit - not man's limited view and thoughts.
We are more closer together than different and need to stop 🛑the hate (my way is right and the only way) and come together in GOD's LOVE
Just want to challenge a couple points: we _should_ hate what is evil, lies in particular. It is not hatred to share the truth in the face of lies, in fact it can be a great act of love. It is either true or false that Jesus is the only way to salvation (though people can be saved in other religions but precisely through Jesus and in spite of their errors) and those who don’t think this is true are in danger of rejecting Jesus and being lost forever.
@@killianmiller6107 Challenge away but dualistic thinking is weak and just brings more hate and evil into the world and separates instead of looks for unity ---True/False, Black/White, Right/Left, Right/Wrong, Democrat/republican etc... all things is the Universe have grays and more then two ways to think about something. If you are only ready to believe dualistically then that is where you are at on your journey and enjoy the ride as you progress along. That is why the Pope said ALL religions BRING people CLOSER to GOD - (not dualistic thinking of) I am right and you are wrong so you are going to hell. I encourage you to study Father Richard Rohr and his views on Dualistic Thinking.
@@killianmiller6107 Exactly this! i can't understand when people conflate telling someone the truth with an act of hate. That's what Jesus did. He told people the truth and they hated him for it. As a Christian this should come to mind everytime we get offended by something regarding our faith. We can discuss the details later but we first need to aknowledge the actual intent behind the words of our fellow christians. Accusing someone of hating on you just because his opinion differs from yours is almost never the right approach.
Nostra Aetate will be 60 yrs old in 2025!
Thank God for you. Thanks for the nuance
Great video Father.
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Thank you for speaking the truth
Oh these comments are gonna be good.
Happy Feast Day of St. Francis of Assisi. Peace and Good to you Father Casey.
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God has no religion.
Christ being the way does not mean what most Christians think it means. It's deeply esoteric, and one does not need to be a Christian to follow it. In fact, many Christians do not.
Hence the parable of the Good Samaritan. As well as the Sheep and Goats.
I’ve thought about this topic ever since I lived in Singapore myself, seeing g the multiplicity of faiths and how they still strive toward God in a way. Christ is the deepest relationship we have to God and God himself as I have been convinced, but I realized so many think other religions and cultures are just objects and are other-ed out of their humanity and being God children, that’s what disgusted me and made me reject Christianity for years, Christ was always wonderful and since I have been back in Christianity for a while now, there is something to this folks. Christ the eternal Tao is the most relevant to me, the Tao te Ching brought me back to Christ. Have a generous and charitable heart you who fears the world in vain! One flock, one Shepard. All humanity under Christ
Religion that thinks it knows everything, that it’s got God in a box, inevitably becomes arrogant and idolatrous.
Did I hear something very like this growing up in a fundamental Protestant church? I think I did.
Excellent explanstion.thankyou
I need to study the Catachism. Thank you Father.
Very Good!!! ❤❤❤
Technically true in a sense that all human religious yearning is yearning for Christ. It’s something to emphasise in moments of dialogue and to be sharply deemphasised at moments of conversion and leading people to faith. The faithful themselves should use it as a way of engaging in comparative religious education but never forget their roots
You have many "one of your bests", father Casey. This is just another one, which brings people together in Jesus, instead of separating them by misunderstood pride.
My biggest concern isn’t that the pope will say something heretical, but that he will continue to say things that can easily be interpreted either way. These repeated gaffs are causing a lot of division in the Catholic community, and there’s enough division already
I am amazed at the number of hoops Fr. Cole is jumping through to defend the Church’s stance on “Invincible Ignorance” and the possibility that all men could be saved. The Catholic Church's doctrine of "Outside the Church, There is No Salvation" is a prime example of the institution's propensity for theological revisionism. Over the centuries, what was once a clear and unambiguous teaching has been watered down to accommodate the mood or atmosphere of the times. This shift is not an isolated incident but rather a symptom of a larger problem within Catholicism - the Church's willingness to alter its doctrine to suit the prevailing cultural and intellectual trends.
The Second Vatican Council's (Vatican II) reinterpretation of extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (Outside the Church There is no Salvation) starkly illustrates this phenomenon. By introducing the concepts of "invincible ignorance" and emphasizing the role of individual conscience, the Church effectively nullified the original doctrine's exclusivist claims. This change was not a minor tweak but a fundamental transformation of the Church's understanding of salvation.
This pattern of revisionism is not unique to the doctrine of salvation. The Catholic Church has repeatedly adjusted its teachings to align with the sensibilities of the modern age - from its evolving stance on slavery and usury to its more recent shifts on issues like birth control and the role of women, and at one point, even to the acknowledgment that the Earth does indeed revolve around the Sun and that Galileo was right after all. This willingness to modify core tenets of the faith raises serious questions about the Church's claim to divine inspiration and the immutability of its doctrine, not to mention the challenge it poses for the doctrine of infallibility.
The Catholic Church's revisionism of the extra Ecclesiam nulla salus doctrine is symptomatic of a larger problem - a willingness to compromise timeless theological truths to accommodate the present age. This calls into question the Church's authority and the reliability of its teachings, undermining the very foundations of the Catholic faith.
The movement of the Earth was never a ‘core tenet’ of Catholicism!!!
Francis isn't stating some part of other religions are a path to God, before this he had declared several times they are a valid way to God as a whole. If you don't get it is because you dont want to.
"paths to *reach* God" is what he said. Not paths that lead to God. Not paths to God. Paths to reach him. Why are you guys so adamant on defending this one? It's obvious what he said was wrong. Maybe it was a slip of the tongue, sure. He's not native in Italian but it's not so far off from Spanish, and yeah he was off the cuff, but he still hasn't retracted and that's very frustrating. But please stop trying to omit words from what he said to make your point.
The handwringing regarding what the Pope says is not an indication of Pope Francis’s confusing statements but rather a total lack of catechesis and engagement in ongoing faith formation. The vast majority of Catholics stop learning about the faith after Confirmation. They wouldn’t be confused if they took even a mild interest in their formation. The priests, bishops, influencers and others who continue to bash the Pope either have another agenda or are willfully ignorant. Remember, not every seminarian graduates at the top of his class.
Pray for the conversation of Khanenei, he's misleading billion souls by the sword/gun.
Jesus Christ doesn't want us to follow no other God no Krishna none of that and certainly not to learn from them.
Some paths are more crooked than others...
To me, the old Testament (while being messages to the people of Israel) still shows God's behavior and how God feels towards other religions. One thing that can be assumed is that God is a Jealous God. God hates other religions and other gods. Exodus 20 verses 3-5 “You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God.”
This shows a direct commandment, and message to believers in God the father, that you shall not be a follower of other religions.
I see the point you are making, but there is not salvation OR anything good that comes out of worshipping false gods. We see this time and time again in the Old Testament. People are destroyed or punished severely by associating themselves with other gods. While Jesus has come and offers salvation to those who believe in him, it is not contradictory to the old testament.
I like a lot of this channel and what it taught about Catholicism, but I believe the explanation provided is contradictory to what is taught in the bible.
I hear what you are saying but it’s what Pope Francis didn’t say. The Ten Commandments says not to worship idols and other pagan religions including devil worship shouldn’t be included. I fault Francis on being too vague.
Thank you, Father, thank you.
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I Agree with the pope. We as CAtholics must show by our love and compassion so that the people who believe can turn to Christianity.
@annettebeckett4671 , how will they come to Christianity when they are being told by the ultimate christian leader that their religion is equally right and a path to God (which is a lie that denies what Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself said and also what the Holy Scriptures stated)?
Pope Francis explicitly said that no religion is better than the other.
@annettebeckett4671 , there's no love and compassion in denying the Truth which is Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, as the Way, the Truth and the Life, and that none can go to the Father if it isn't through Him.
@@ar3728 read the parable Good Samaritan
@@ar3728 St Thomas the apostle converted many in pagan India
Thank you.
It should be pointed out Judaism has no notion of salvation and its idea of redemption is different to the Christian idea. While Catholics have their beliefs, and they are entitled to a belief that they are right providing they leave the rest of us alone.
Fr Casey, this is a tough one. While I agree with the saying that there are seeds of the Truth in many religions, it is hard to balance the sacrifice of the martyrs with the saying that All Religions are a path to God. Did those that gave their lives rather than convert to the Islamic path to God make a useless choice? I would love to hear your POV.
Not being Christian, I reject the belief that God is triune and outside Jesus as the road to salvation
Thanks, Father. As I am an accomplished bumble mouth, I listen real hard to what folks - and venerated folks - say. So I was mystified, NOT by what Pope Francis said, but by the absurd reaction of the usual suspects, you know, the Holy Ghost Bergolio types.