Gil's Arena Explains How The Media Creates NBA Superstars
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2024
- Gil's Arena EXPOSES How Big Media Creates NBA Superstars as Gilbert Arenas, Richard Jefferson and The Gil's Arena Crew refute Shannon Sharpe's recent take that the face of the NBA needs to be in a stable relationship and discuss the industry secrets behind how ESPN & other big sports media outlets create storylines and superstars out of thin air.
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Gil got them THANGS on the show dawg 💀😭😂
The work
I was looking for this comment lol.
I was like ayo where tf did they come from ☠️
Got that formula for the algorithm 😂😂
Came here for this comment😂😂
Being married & having stability makes people think more highly of you.. it’s actually kinda understandable
It’s good to get a home loan, not so much for appealing to single women
@@thomasdr08single women like responsible men.
marriage isn’t for everyone
@@thomasdr08 the number one buyer of stuff in America is married mothers.
@@jamiesp3901 don’t mean a god damned thing in regards to this conversation. That’s still a married man when it comes to the female demographic.
Lmaoo Rashad and Brandon on da same side funny asl
Gil finds a way to talk about himself in every argument instead of just talking about the topic itself🤣
That’s the point of him having a show right?
Gil pliz bring RJ once a month 😂😂😂
I swear 😂
Yall lowkey got the best show out
I think there’s a timeline for each phase. When you’re very young you can be single and be a heartthrob but after a while as you get up in age, it looks very good for brands that’s you’re married and have stability at home. Makes selling your brand a lot easier when you’re seen as a role model in the eyes of parents who buy their kids their favorite basketball player jersey or sneakers etc. Additionally, when you’re a single player for too long, it’s way easier to paint you with all type of charges because you’re seen as reckless or carefree etc. Both can be true at the same time but it’s all about phases and how you handle distractions.
In order to become the face of the NBA, the commissioner has to support you, a majority of the owners have to support you, big media has to support you, and you have to have a style of play that sells tickets, views, and jerseys. Magic and Bird were a test run for David Stern. Nike and Davis Stern paved the way with MJ for what it takes to be the face of the NBA. Tim Duncan should have been the poster boy for the NBA, but his game was boring... effective, but boring...
That doesn’t tell the whole story for Duncan. The real reason he wasn’t the face of the league is because he was reluctant to take major endorsements outside of adidas. He wasn’t on our screens unless it was a spurs game.
Also need to have the personality, have s pretty face/smile, and just be likeable and charismatic, bird duncan even kobe werent like that and were never the faces of the league even if they were the best
@@radel096 Kobe was DEFINITELY one of the faces of the league.
@@ex-creaturecoby4643 Nike, Bridgestone, and AT&T. He simply wasn't that marketable because of his personality and style of play.
@@sonnyqsoul i think he was the best of that era, but he was always reserved plus had the case in 03...it wasnt until the chips in 09,10 where he started getting liked as much
Hearing Richard Jefferson cuss is so weird to me. It's like hearing your elementary school teacher cuss for the first time when you reach adulthood.
Facts. Speaking of that. It's almost like teachers are fake. I've never seen anyone of my teachers out in the world at a store or somewhere.
Type party yall got going on females in white getting drinks lmfao
I see you Gil having the girl assistant in white 😂😂😂
Context is key. I wish they played all of Shannon’s take. He asked specifically does being a model citizen at home make a case. I wish ppl used the full clips. Even ESPN had gotten better at pulling clips where if someone talks it’s not a 10 second clip it’s 30/60 seconds.
That’s why when I see videos online I’m always saying I wanna see more b4 I respond. Snippet will never get my opinion and Shannon take was taken out of context but unless u watch the show u would never know.
RJ def has to make more appearances. The energy and vibes for the entire crew 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
None of that stuff Shannon Sharpe said has anything to do with actual basketball. All he had to say was that the face of the NBA has to make white people feel comfortable.
considering the obvious agenda the nba media has against white european players this is a funny comment.
It’s just how the world works bro
That’s why they tried to push A.I. to the side…
@@datbossd It’s funny though that nobody wants to admit it.
Yeah because white people are the advertisers and the ones paying to see the games front row. Promoting ghetto culture like Iverson will alienate those "white" folks and you'll lose money...which is why the NBA has record low ratings and going broke soon.
Funny how Gil didn’t say this to Shannon on night cap podcast. Shannon broke down how peoples perception of these players were that they were good family men until they found out wayyyy later it was actually to the contrary. Case in point everyone loved tiger woods until they found out about his freak side lol
mcCants kinda spittin
Gil is actually deadass wrong. Relationship couples will trump single 99% of the time.
Facts he swear he be right. Be wrong as hell.
He acknowledged the lost road trippin episode 😭🔥
Cr7 is probably the most famous sportman and very popular amongst women.(While having multiple kids and being in a stable relationship)
Everyone should follow the Jeter philosophy
They're not paying attention to the timetable in which he's mentioning these people at the time...we know what happened NOW not then!!
This panel wouldn't even understand your comment
That interview with Edward definitely let me know that want cuz to be that
Gil is mixing everything up. Being the face of a league and being pop-star are differing things😂😂😂😂😂
Why RJ sound like Richard Pryor when he swears? lol!!!!
Damn Kenyon Martin was quiet ASF this episode
Lmao all I could think of when RJ said Biracial Angel all i could think of was The Other Guys 😅
Very enlightening clip. Illustrated that these guys are super deep on Sports but know almost nothing about sociology
Gilbert arenas just said Patrick Mahomes wasn’t the lead headline when the chiefs won the superbowl, every single sports show in America was talking about Mahomes the next day 😂
Taylor Swift outshadowed him
only to shit on brady, take away the media agenda pushing for a black qb to be goat, mahomes is a nobody really, no star power, bland. no one really cares about mahomes its all about uplifting him to be shitting on brady.
@@GetChalkedUpTaylor Swift outshadows 99% of America. Mahomes has been the lead story of every single Chiefs season
@@GetChalkedUpshe didn't
Taylor was the face the whole way. The camera panned her way during breaks, not mahomes
Whoever can grow the game and bring in the most money while also being marketable is gonna be the face of the league
Brandon , NO RAPPER is bigger than Drake rn , you’ll be hard pressed to find any artist of any genre to be as big as him
We out here!
“Be really good at basketball” lol Kenyon for President
...when things went Left. Great Segment
The views keep going 👏🏽
"It mattters who on yo hip "
The Other Guys reference 😂 Richard Jefferson funny asf
Gil saying Kodak gets more play than somebody is crazy because Kodak gets more play than everybody in that room 😂😂. Every popping rapper does
One aspect yall forgetting is kids. Certain players or musicians you let your kids watch and imitate and some your don’t. I rather my son be like pat mahomes rather than Kodak black
Very annoying and unserious. Like Steph wasn’t considered a golden boy for being a married Christian man at the height of his popularity. Kids, white ppl, sponsors loved him he was damn near outselling Bron bc of his marketability reaching a wider demographic
Gils face after McCants told him no 🤣
How little did Kenyon say in this clip?
Smart bloke.
Brandon: it’s like that in all sports
Everyone but Brandon and Rashad: laughs and brings up examples in multiple sports that weren’t married
Brandon and Rashad: we’re basketball other sports don’t matter
Lol can’t make this up, Rashad just be making me laugh every single time lol
Meh 2 things can be true. For an example most church’s don’t want a pastor that isn’t married leading the church. Being married or in a long time relationship to one person makes you somewhat of a safer choice. Most of the faces of the league are either married or with a long term partner. Bron,Steph, Chris Paul, Kyrie
It’s just Bron and Steph, there are no other faces of the league currently.
@@kennethking3486 you’re correct and they are both married with kids “ American dream” type of guys married kids white picket fence safe bets
Steph is not biracial. Both parents are light skinned black folks
I NEED GILS ARENA... NOT YOU BRO!!! 😂 😂 😂
Why is McCants sitting over there like he’s on punishment?
♓️♓️ my birthday today, happy belated big homie
Having a stable relationship was the foundation that allowed those legends to focus on becoming the undisputed face of the NBA, but PR and marketing-wise your relationship status has little to nothing to do with you being the face of the league. Did it help that Ayesha became a famous chef? Yes, but Savannah and Vanessa were fairly private but LeBron and Kobe still were the undisputed faces of the NBA because they embraced the spotlight by starring in all the commercials and became media-trained, charismatic speakers to make the commercials good. But none of that would matter if they weren't also good and entertaining that even haters couldn't deny their face on the posters.
The problem now is that the best players of this new generation (Jokic, Embiid, Luka, Giannis) are not native English speakers, they have minimum media training, they do not want the spotlight, and none of them have the highlight package that previous faces had. It's great for basketball purists, but not great for casuals sadly those are the people that pick the face of the league. I genuinely can't see anyone but Anthony Edwards taking over, but that will only work if he gets more media training and becomes an undeniable top 5 player. Otherwise, it'd feel too forced.
Entertain is entertainment for a reason (fun). Other organizations need stability so been married show stability.
Bad Bunny shout out !! lol
It’s funny watchin RJ talk normally
The face of the league is someone who is first and foremost marketable to the average American viewer, not outside the US. He then needs to be one of the best players in the league and has to make deep Playoffs runs. And as Stephen A. Smith puts it, "box office", meaning he is the show, he is the name that draws in the masses who buy tickets to see him perform at his best.
There is truth to what Shannon is saying. It’s business that ‘fans’ happen to find entertaining. Money is the goal and relationships/marriage tend to indicate stability. Nothing is true 100% of the time but businesses place the spotlight on stable people.
Gil be fr no relationship is keeping women from wanting a superstar athlete or even a bench player. Being married wont stop nothin if women find you attractive and you have money.
I dont agree with Gils point. A lot of those dudes dont have to be single for women to want them or admire them. You have 2 things happening here.
1. A woman who is admiring his relationship with his wife and simply watching to go "aawwww"
2. A woman who doesnt give af about his wife and just watching cause the player looks good.
Family MEN ARE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO WOMEN.
They gotta think about the social media aspect of this as well…
Josiah needs to get his own show bc he be killing the organic moments
I have followed basketball my whole life and I know nothing about dude except who his dad is lol
Who is Josiah
@@chelseadelon9628who is his dad
@@Zaybreeze marques Johnson
@@ZaybreezeRaymond from White Men Can’t Jump. He also played in the league, but most people will know him from the movie.
They must forgot Dennis Rodman 😂😂 real Life Rockstar
Gil don’t get it. In any profession, married men will be chosen over single men of equal value. Married represents stability in all cultures
Gil in what world is a married man not attractive to single women… It’s 2024 they don’t give af. 😂
Gil gotta stop with that bullshit.
😂
Facts... in facts they are more attracted
Also being a family man is more appealing than a single man
Single players get the rockstar life for a time but it’s forgettable especially when they start to decline but married men good or not build dynasties through their name: Jordan’s, Bryant’s, James’s
Jordan not even with his wife
2:45...the camera man had one job
Marketing Exec here😅 I can tell you which individuals haven’t worked on their visibility, velocity and upward trending metrics
Josiah has No neck circulation right now😅😂😂😂😂
Those guys being married is biggest facade. Gil told Shannon how they go through women and pay them off to go away lol It’s the culture for those big stars. Young filthy rich with every temptation at your feet.
Gil rants rockstar lifestyle bj and mccants just said NO
the next face of the league will obviously be Wemby in 2 years. Lebron and Curry will still be around to pass the torch to him. and it's what JR said. transcending the game not relationships or playing good
With social media today things are a lot different. Pretty much the entire world is going to know if you are out going wild.
Single man Rockstar life is not the FACE of anything!!!!
Ask your moms?
@@Pure_Dog what bitch!?
Ok simp
Hue Hefner was the face of low key hedonism
@@Pure_Dog Bro you projecting your mom like that actin like everyone's mom is trifling? Single man rockstar is only appealin to immature individuals
I still don't understand why Shannon talks basketball😂😂
Gil got so defensive 😂
10:27 coming from 2 people that wasn't the face of anything lol they sound crazy
idk if giannis will ever live down, them last second throw the ball away (trying to get it to a better ft shooter) it was ben simmons like in hoopers eyes
YOU HAVE SUPERSTARS AND MEGASTARS !!!!!
Did he just say magic 🧝♀️ 😂😂😂😂
How can McCants say that the baseball analogy don’t count because it’s not basketball,but turn around and give a football analogy and want it to be accepted! Both him and Brandon was flat in this conversation
You may have missed it, but what he was getting at. Is that the face of baseball is least likely to be black? Whereas football and basketball, much higher probability.
@@shakaomniI heard what Brandon said, I didn’t miss that, but his mention of race was off topic because the original point is if being the face of a league has something to do with being married vs. being single. The conversation wasn’t about the white black player ratio of any league. At least McCants was on topic, but I’m saying for him to switch to football was ridiculous after telling RJ he couldn’t bring up baseball. Listen again. I didn’t miss anything.
@@johnathanhornesr Oh I see, you just don't want to get it. My bad
@@shakaomni bro, Ken Griffey Jr and Barry Bonds were both the face of MLB for a time... Brandon's point sucked, and was off topic.
@@shakaomni: Barry Bonds from 2000-2004
B4 the internet he right
Josiah really the main reason why this show is so amazing
Nah
@@Hail2daChief i miss the old white dude that used to keep Gil on track talking about actual basketball, not just drama bullshit
@@xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx Then stop watching and go watch JJ Reddick he's perfect for you 😂
Rashad and Brandon just said it doesn’t matter who you’re with and “we’re talking about basketball” then switched it up and talked about football l
jeter was the face of the yankees no the face of baseball dude please
I watch baseball here and there, at the time he was playing whenever I heard anything outside of the Phillies it was jeter.
BolBol can be the face
-Shaq
😂😂😂
😂
This is too Meta for yall. God Bless!
why the hell do they always zoom the ass then change it afterwards when they get far
Gil is never wrong in his head
When gil wrong he always start yelling you not right just because your louder
New face of the nba looks like Alvin and the chipmunks
Jeter coulda worked for the secret service… nobody ever knew he was really dating. Jeter kept all that stuff out secret
The NBA doesn't promote wives. Taylor Swift was shown more in one season than Savanah been shown in Lebrons career. The NBA promotes to women and basketball fans.
And Pat Mahomes wife is a 4 . Let's get serious fellas
She's not a 4. You're being ridiculous.
@@CinqueMalcolm she's a 4 on her BEST day
What's wrong with Mccant he ain't said anything the entire episode
The American culture is FREEDOM. Doesn’t matter if your married our not. It’s that Red, White and Blue.
They had edibles this episodes
RJ and Gil are obviously correct in this argument. That married shit dont matter for real. You got to be great and have everyone want to be you or like you. That married shit only for a segment.
Gil wrong , ironically females are more attracted to you if you got somebody .
Not everyone in the world knew or knows who Shaq, wilt, even Kobe are. I should know because I’m not from the us (France), and the only one that really transcended the game of bball on a global level was/is MJ. Like even my mother knows who MJ is. That’s what makes him a category on his own.
Then next tier you have Lebron, and to a lesser degree Kobe.
Then the currys and Shaq
Then that’s it imo. Magic was before the wild globalisation, so of course it’s a factor - as for MJ, who arrived when the world echo chamber was ready to function fairly good
3:46
Probably the part where he burned Dwyane Wade's house down.
Someone who is putting 110.5 percent. That puts the fight in every night that I am the best. Proven not given.
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Larry Bitd only has two kids or am I confused?
For everyone complaining about Josiah, who would yall have as the moderator then? It has to be someone already on the pod tho cant be some random
What up with ole girl at the end thooo
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