inspiring me to build an altar to a goddess i want to draw closer to while I'm starting my healing journey, in an actually serious and committed way. It can be so hard to feel like you can get help from divinity when you feel you have to always be strong and independent in your life all the time, but all anyone has to do is tap in and feel the love and support radiating from what is divine. it could be anything, just gotta look around . on my journey. have to remind myself it's okay to have gaps in time, iall these phases of our lives are important. warm energetic hugs to anyone who reads this. We're all on the same planet so, figure we have a lot more in common than not.
Great altars with lots of meaningful items for you. Love it. Thank you for sharing. My matron Deity is Auset/Isis and recently I came across info that ancient black virgins mother Mary statues found in sanctuaries (in France where I live) were likely Isis statues. I visited one a few weeks ago and the emotion was so strong I just sat there bawling my eyes out, I've always felt a connection to Mary but thought that as a witch I couldn't have a Mary altar. Seeing yours made me very happy. Going to be a rebel witch and set a Mary altar in my bedroom. Blessed be.
Using scent as a spiritual tool makes so much sense; scent-based memories are some of the strongest we have. That color-changing Mary light is absolutely glorious, seriously, 👨🍳 💋! Thank you for sharing your sacred spaces with us!
In love. Reminds me of my mom, aunt’s, grandmother’s ,friends moms rituals and puja ‘rooms’, which were usually closets, pantries as well as elaborate areas…being invited and bearing witness to such beautiful and intimate expression from the devotee I sometimes think…wow, perhaps the goddesses and gods are lucky to have us as well ❤️🙏🏾 Ty for sharing, sweet soul ✨
It's always such a treat to be allowed into a witch's space. 💜 I know what you mean... Filming tours is a stressful endevour in this age of high-quality videography. 😵💫 Thank you for sharing your sacred spaces. 🙏
I was raised in the Catholic Church and always had a small altar to Mary with a statue and flowers. Seeing your Mary altar brought that all back to me. The comfort I derived from Mother Mary as a child was immense, and you have inspired me to return to that place of unconditional love and blessings. I have a statue that I bought several years ago in a thrift shop on impulse, wasn’t quite sure what I was going to do with it. Now I know 💖
Hello KAM! I have been busy with school and work. Not on YT for fun much these days. Had to come watch your altar tour. It feels good to relish in the vibes. Thanks for sharing these beautifully ornate spaces.
It feels so special to see your spaces up close and personal. The Mother Mary altar in particular is just so beautiful and comforting, so thank you for this!
Thank you so much for sharing! Oh my goddess. I felt such a clutch in my heart in the most serene and loving way looking at your rosaries on your Mary altar. I know what's on my to do list! I was raised culturally nondenominational Christian but not religious so it did not occur to me until this moment to go to Mary, but she invited me. I feel so fizzy! Again, many thanks for sharing!
That deer antler is gorgeous! And such a nice size, too! It is most likely a shed - not sure if that adds any to how you use it (release, change of season, growth, transitions, etc)!
Thank you, for your beautiful tour. I love your Mother Mary altar & your beautiful rosary 's. But a special thanks , for the enlightenment of the goddess Hel , who has been trying to get my attention for two years. I was drown to her because of her cards in the Dark Goddess Tarot & The Goddess Knowledge Cards decks that kept stalking me and continue 's to do so. After this video I have been led to take the time to hear her voice. Thanks Again 🧚🦋🧚✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨🌞
Watching your tour of your mother Mary altar bought tears to my eyes my altar got destroyed in a move I'm having to replace rosaries all the way to rose water I will be so happy when I have it beautiful again 💖
Darling I am soooo desperately sorry. I know that must have been a huge loss that you are still processing. ❤ Always remember that the most glorious and beautiful Mary altar you will EVER have is your HEART, and no earthly event can ever take that from you. And, to her, that is the only altar that matters. X
Quelles bonnes énergies tes autels, très émouvant, on y ressent tellement ton amour , je te suis depuis très longtemps et j'aime relire ton livre , il m'aide. Je suis très déprimée depuis deux ans et j'ai une grave maladie, j'ai perdu mon chien IL y a huit mois et la solitude est mon amie:( je suis comme toi, je crée depuis toujours des autels et mon premier était à Marie , il existe toujours, merci beaucoup pour tes videos , tu nous soutient , margareth ❤
I wanted to wait until tomorrow morning to watch your video with my cup of tea but I couldn't resist the urge! I enjoyed having a detailed look at your sacred areas. It is fun to consider the evolution of your altar spaces over time. Those have always been very inspiring videos. Take care 🖤
Thank you so much for sharing these intimate spaces with us. I've been in the midst of rearranging some of my altars to figure out what needs to shift. Your video showed me that I might be trying to be too formal with some of my altar spaces. As long as my altars and shrines are pleasing to my spirits and to me, then they are good. One of my traditions dictates that aspects of that shrine be done in a certain way, and it works. However, none of my other spaces have any requirements or restrictions. Thank you for encouraging me to play with things a bit more again.
Thank you for the tour of your beautiful spaces. I am very inspired! My two altars are always a work in progress, but lately I've been wanting to do more and your video really helped.
I always love your altar tours. Your altars are so beautiful and individual and one can feel the love you put in creating and maintaining them. Such wonderful energies. I espacially love your Hel altar. 🖤 Thank you for sharing!
Always love your altar tours as you have such an interesting vibe and look. I'm also very maximised when it comes to my altar. Stuff everywhere lol. I also use perfume oils in my craft as like you say, it takes you right where you need to be. Love and blessings darling xx
KAM this is gorgeous and exactly the kind of video I needed. It's been a weird time for me. Thanks for sharing your sacred spaces! Miss you and the patreon and hope to be back soon!
I can honestly recommend it if you have the room. Psychologically, it makes it more clear cut for me when I want to do devotional work only. And when I DON'T want to do devotional work, I don't necessarily vibe with having goddess/deity stuff on the altar when I'm doing work that doesn't really involve them, if that makes sense.
I am beginning to realize I have a special connection to Mary. In the school Christmas play in church when I was like 8 I was happy to play her, it felt so special and beautiful. And I simply asked for a role where I don't have to say a lot lol. And I recently bought a beautiful Mary iconography with a sun and a moon and a nightsky with stars, it is so calm, peaceful, healing Edit: I also made the connection to the Queen of Cups, and I've always loved that card. Mary is very Queen of Cups for me. Sadly, the deck I recently purchased rly butchered the facial expressions of the queens for me, even though I love the rest of the cards
Absolutely fabulous! All of it! The doll heads on your main altar looked like fingers reaching out, LOL. Thank you for sharing such an intimate part of yourself. ❤
Kelly Ann I often rewatch your videos and I was rewatching this and I wanted to ask you if you will do a video on box magic I have several different decorative boxes and would like to know more about box magic
Very cool. I have also felt callings to the archangels and abrahamic figures. I’ve always wondered what that meant and if I should do something about it.
"Goth & trashy in a good way" Love that description 😊 BTW, was that stone lapis or labradorite? I LOVE labradorite & shiny obsidian. I have 2 large crecents of shiny obsidian & over 1/2 dozen small labradorite ones that I like to gift, I even have labradorite runes 🥰. It's literally everywhere around me ❤
Beautiful spaces. Also vegan but I think it's kinda bad ass to have a sward used to take horses out at the knee in battle as a symbol for Hell. But I am an air sign. My athame is a switch blade (thought you might vibe with that). And I'm looking out for an antique bubble glass picture frame at least 9 inches long to turn into a black mirror. The size is important for making a secret altar inside. Thank you for sharing your sacred spaces
As Hel is your matron goddess, might she be willing to help you communicate with your brother? It might help you with closure so you can be at peace with any circumstances around his transition. Many of us do ancestral work and communicate with them on a regular basis. Technically, as your brother has crossed into the ancestral realm, he is now an ancestor who is just as available to you as any grandparent or great-grandparent. If this idea resonates with you, I hope you will feel the joy and peace your brother surely wishes for you. I lost my beloved big brother (15 years older than me) in a horrific car accident on January 2, 1968; he was 22, I was 7. Because of how my parents dealt with it, it was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. I’m new at this at 63 but ancestral work is a high priority for me. Blessed be! 🎉🥳
I saw it somewhere online and couldn't remember where, so I mentioned it to a friend and she managed to track it down on Amazon. (Don't judge me, haha! I needed it.) www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09QKGVPT9?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
So let me see if I understand correctly in your denomination of witchery you believe in the Abrahamic God.? Plus Angelic deities.? If I am incorrect would you please explain to me how this works? Sharmanism upbringing I received we We're not taught that those deities were actually in existence.
I guess you could say that I believe all beings are valid and powerful, they are just from different paradigms. In my belief structure, no paradigm is the TRUE paradigm. They are simply all powerful and useful and worthy of respect. I go where my instinct calls me rather than where I have decided the ultimate truth is hiding, and therefore my practice has become MY ultimate truth. :)
I will be 75 in a little over a week..I was initiated when I was 19 and studied many years before that..and we did not have designated titles of Witches..a Witch was a Witch.. you might personaly specialize in different areas. but you were still just a Witch. Also honoring Christian deities would be unthinkable..You can honor who you wish I guess...But we would never honor those who want us dead..Who would take our children, our jobs.. break up families. But Like I said... we all have choices, I just do not understand the logic of being a Christian Witch. They have a book that says Suffer not a Witch to live..yet there are people who also honor our deities as well as theirs. I think it blows my Mind.
@keirgazelle2451 I'm not a Christian witch. Definitely not. Also, not all Christians want us dead. My Catholic grandmother was cool with me being pagan. I'm a chaos witch and I've made tonnes of resources explaining to people what that means and why it's right for me.
Am I losing my mind or is that black scrying mirror hold hell herself? It started out like incense smoke then I saw a woman's face but just one side. 😮
I was just thinking we both work with a death goddess as well as mother Mary I work with Santa Muerte I have had people confused as how I can work with both of these two I really can't answer that all I know is I wouldn't want to be without either one and it works.
Isaiah55:6&7,"Seek the Lord while he may be found; call on him while he is near.Let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thoughts.Let them turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will freely pardon." Repent, receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior today.This is God's invitation for redemption, Jesus loves you so much and he is the only WAY to eternity.God bless you
inspiring me to build an altar to a goddess i want to draw closer to while I'm starting my healing journey, in an actually serious and committed way. It can be so hard to feel like you can get help from divinity when you feel you have to always be strong and independent in your life all the time, but all anyone has to do is tap in and feel the love and support radiating from what is divine. it could be anything, just gotta look around . on my journey. have to remind myself it's okay to have gaps in time, iall these phases of our lives are important. warm energetic hugs to anyone who reads this. We're all on the same planet so, figure we have a lot more in common than not.
you're a really sweet and wise soul. best wishes on your spirit path!! warm energy hugs are returned( ◜‿◝ )♡
I feel a similar inspiration watching the video and I wholly relate to your lovely message. Many blessings on your continued path.
Great altars with lots of meaningful items for you. Love it. Thank you for sharing. My matron Deity is Auset/Isis and recently I came across info that ancient black virgins mother Mary statues found in sanctuaries (in France where I live) were likely Isis statues. I visited one a few weeks ago and the emotion was so strong I just sat there bawling my eyes out, I've always felt a connection to Mary but thought that as a witch I couldn't have a Mary altar. Seeing yours made me very happy. Going to be a rebel witch and set a Mary altar in my bedroom. Blessed be.
Your antler is naturally shed, so no worries.
Using scent as a spiritual tool makes so much sense; scent-based memories are some of the strongest we have. That color-changing Mary light is absolutely glorious, seriously, 👨🍳 💋!
Thank you for sharing your sacred spaces with us!
In love. Reminds me of my mom, aunt’s, grandmother’s ,friends moms rituals and puja ‘rooms’, which were usually closets, pantries as well as elaborate areas…being invited and bearing witness to such beautiful and intimate expression from the devotee I sometimes think…wow, perhaps the goddesses and gods are lucky to have us as well ❤️🙏🏾
Ty for sharing, sweet soul ✨
It's always such a treat to be allowed into a witch's space. 💜 I know what you mean... Filming tours is a stressful endevour in this age of high-quality videography. 😵💫 Thank you for sharing your sacred spaces. 🙏
I was raised in the Catholic Church and always had a small altar to Mary with a statue and flowers. Seeing your Mary altar brought that all back to me. The comfort I derived from Mother Mary as a child was immense, and you have inspired me to return to that place of unconditional love and blessings. I have a statue that I bought several years ago in a thrift shop on impulse, wasn’t quite sure what I was going to do with it. Now I know 💖
❤️❤️❤️ So much love for this comment. Yesss, go to her x
Your Mother Mary altar is absolutely stunning. I could see the power vibrate from it. So beautiful.
Thank you! I think I definitely managed to create a space that calls me to it. x
Hello KAM! I have been busy with school and work. Not on YT for fun much these days. Had to come watch your altar tour. It feels good to relish in the vibes. Thanks for sharing these beautifully ornate spaces.
It feels so special to see your spaces up close and personal. The Mother Mary altar in particular is just so beautiful and comforting, so thank you for this!
Very interesting & inspiring to see. Thx for making this video 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🫶🩷
Thank you so much for sharing! Oh my goddess. I felt such a clutch in my heart in the most serene and loving way looking at your rosaries on your Mary altar. I know what's on my to do list! I was raised culturally nondenominational Christian but not religious so it did not occur to me until this moment to go to Mary, but she invited me. I feel so fizzy! Again, many thanks for sharing!
That deer antler is gorgeous! And such a nice size, too! It is most likely a shed - not sure if that adds any to how you use it (release, change of season, growth, transitions, etc)!
i love working with perfumes as well with intentions/feelings/archetypes! scent is so powerful for me magically
Totally. Scent is spiritual af. It transports you! ❤
Such a privilege to witness your many altars. So excited for this video!!
I do love a good altar tour. Thank you for sharing 😁❤️ That light up Mary is pretty cool 😎
These are amazing! I've been feeling very separated from my shrines and altars. Your videos are inspiring
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So inspiring - that Mary light is EVERYTHING!!! 😍😍
Thank you, for your beautiful tour. I love your Mother Mary altar & your beautiful rosary 's. But a special thanks , for the enlightenment of the goddess Hel , who has been trying to get my attention for two years. I was drown to her because of her cards in the Dark Goddess Tarot & The Goddess Knowledge Cards decks that kept stalking me and continue 's to do so. After this video I have been led to take the time to hear her voice.
Thanks Again 🧚🦋🧚✨✨✨✨✨✨✨✨🌞
Watching your tour of your mother Mary altar bought tears to my eyes my altar got destroyed in a move I'm having to replace rosaries all the way to rose water I will be so happy when I have it beautiful again 💖
Darling I am soooo desperately sorry. I know that must have been a huge loss that you are still processing. ❤ Always remember that the most glorious and beautiful Mary altar you will EVER have is your HEART, and no earthly event can ever take that from you. And, to her, that is the only altar that matters. X
@@kelly-annmaddox thank you for reminding me of that.
Quelles bonnes énergies tes autels, très émouvant, on y ressent tellement ton amour , je te suis depuis très longtemps et j'aime relire ton livre , il m'aide. Je suis très déprimée depuis deux ans et j'ai une grave maladie, j'ai perdu mon chien IL y a huit mois et la solitude est mon amie:( je suis comme toi, je crée depuis toujours des autels et mon premier était à Marie , il existe toujours, merci beaucoup pour tes videos , tu nous soutient , margareth ❤
I absolutely love the rainbow crystal 😍
I’m loving your altars. The changing colour Mary light is gorgeous! Very inspiring.
I wanted to wait until tomorrow morning to watch your video with my cup of tea but I couldn't resist the urge! I enjoyed having a detailed look at your sacred areas. It is fun to consider the evolution of your altar spaces over time. Those have always been very inspiring videos. Take care 🖤
Oh wow! Thank you for sharing, I’m so touched by the beauty of your devotion! Thank you again 🙏
Thank you so much for sharing these intimate spaces with us. I've been in the midst of rearranging some of my altars to figure out what needs to shift. Your video showed me that I might be trying to be too formal with some of my altar spaces. As long as my altars and shrines are pleasing to my spirits and to me, then they are good. One of my traditions dictates that aspects of that shrine be done in a certain way, and it works. However, none of my other spaces have any requirements or restrictions. Thank you for encouraging me to play with things a bit more again.
I love the covering on your hel altar
i love your altar spaces. That Mary light is amazing!
Thank you for the tour 😊
Aww love you Kelly-Ann. Beautiful beautiful tour. 😘
Such beautiful altars ❤️❤️ your videos are always so calming and informative and just what I need after a long anxious week
Very inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing!
Thank you for the tour of your beautiful spaces. I am very inspired! My two altars are always a work in progress, but lately I've been wanting to do more and your video really helped.
I always love your altar tours. Your altars are so beautiful and individual and one can feel the love you put in creating and maintaining them. Such wonderful energies. I espacially love your Hel altar. 🖤 Thank you for sharing!
Always love your altar tours as you have such an interesting vibe and look. I'm also very maximised when it comes to my altar. Stuff everywhere lol. I also use perfume oils in my craft as like you say, it takes you right where you need to be. Love and blessings darling xx
How beautiful! Thank you for sharing! ❤
Loving the through the keyhole on your altars gawjus dharling ❤
KAM this is gorgeous and exactly the kind of video I needed. It's been a weird time for me. Thanks for sharing your sacred spaces! Miss you and the patreon and hope to be back soon!
Thankyou for sharing such sacred spaces! Thinking of separating a Mother Mary altar, as of now it's all together
I can honestly recommend it if you have the room. Psychologically, it makes it more clear cut for me when I want to do devotional work only. And when I DON'T want to do devotional work, I don't necessarily vibe with having goddess/deity stuff on the altar when I'm doing work that doesn't really involve them, if that makes sense.
I am beginning to realize I have a special connection to Mary. In the school Christmas play in church when I was like 8 I was happy to play her, it felt so special and beautiful. And I simply asked for a role where I don't have to say a lot lol. And I recently bought a beautiful Mary iconography with a sun and a moon and a nightsky with stars, it is so calm, peaceful, healing
Edit: I also made the connection to the Queen of Cups, and I've always loved that card. Mary is very Queen of Cups for me. Sadly, the deck I recently purchased rly butchered the facial expressions of the queens for me, even though I love the rest of the cards
Beautiful. Thank you darling 💖
That athame is very special. ❤❤❤
Absolutely fabulous! All of it! The doll heads on your main altar looked like fingers reaching out, LOL. Thank you for sharing such an intimate part of yourself. ❤
Such beautiful Altars :).
Ahhh I love this so much 🩷🩷🩷 Kelly-Ann I wonder if you could use those adorable wee doll hands for scooping tiny wee handfuls of herbs? 😅
😅😅 Haha do not tempt me
Yesss. Such a delight.
Post election blues… my first form of action is redoing my altar and I came here for moral support. Xoxo
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Kelly Ann I often rewatch your videos and I was rewatching this and I wanted to ask you if you will do a video on box magic I have several different decorative boxes and would like to know more about box magic
That'sxawesome! I need more skull bracelwts i bought a show knife feim a black smith. Not witchy, but it felt so right.
beautiful
Very cool. I have also felt callings to the archangels and abrahamic figures. I’ve always wondered what that meant and if I should do something about it.
Have you been to the Haus of Hoodoo in NOLA? They also have a banging Mary altar
Can you make a video on how you work with your goddess altars? Like do you pray, and then work? Is there a routine?
"Goth & trashy in a good way" Love that description 😊
BTW, was that stone lapis or labradorite? I LOVE labradorite & shiny obsidian. I have 2 large crecents of shiny obsidian & over 1/2 dozen small labradorite ones that I like to gift, I even have labradorite runes 🥰. It's literally everywhere around me ❤
I got it wrong but only realised I said the wrong stone after I filmed it 😂
@@kelly-annmaddoxBeen there 😮.
Thank you for sharing
Hel-pful!
Beautiful spaces. Also vegan but I think it's kinda bad ass to have a sward used to take horses out at the knee in battle as a symbol for Hell. But I am an air sign. My athame is a switch blade (thought you might vibe with that). And I'm looking out for an antique bubble glass picture frame at least 9 inches long to turn into a black mirror. The size is important for making a secret altar inside. Thank you for sharing your sacred spaces
Can you do a video on how you use boxes?
Re: 19:50 Did your brother work with any kind of magic by any chance?
Be careful that the green glass isn’t uranium cutlery 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 its "yellow cake crystal" 😅 - Dani 🦡
Nice!
divine
I can't really see but it's possibly the Haserot Angel, or Angel of Death Victorious in Cleveland, Ohio?
What is going on with the glass bell at the very beginning of the video 🤷♀️ 0-1.30 mins 😂❤
As Hel is your matron goddess, might she be willing to help you communicate with your brother? It might help you with closure so you can be at peace with any circumstances around his transition. Many of us do ancestral work and communicate with them on a regular basis. Technically, as your brother has crossed into the ancestral realm, he is now an ancestor who is just as available to you as any grandparent or great-grandparent. If this idea resonates with you, I hope you will feel the joy and peace your brother surely wishes for you. I lost my beloved big brother (15 years older than me) in a horrific car accident on January 2, 1968; he was 22, I was 7. Because of how my parents dealt with it, it was one of the most traumatic experiences of my life. I’m new at this at 63 but ancestral work is a high priority for me. Blessed be! 🎉🥳
Would you tell me which Gnostic Gospels book you have? Thank you!
this is so much fun, they're so beautiful ( ◜‿◝ )♡
Where did you get the beautiful changing light for Mary's altar I would love to have one for mine
I saw it somewhere online and couldn't remember where, so I mentioned it to a friend and she managed to track it down on Amazon. (Don't judge me, haha! I needed it.)
www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B09QKGVPT9?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Deer shed their antlers every year.
O, yes,, She has dropped the mf house on us!
So let me see if I understand correctly in your denomination of witchery you believe in the Abrahamic God.? Plus Angelic deities.? If I am incorrect would you please explain to me how this works? Sharmanism upbringing I received we We're not taught that those deities were actually in existence.
She's a chaote or chaos witch so she does and believes in whatever she wants to 😄
I guess you could say that I believe all beings are valid and powerful, they are just from different paradigms. In my belief structure, no paradigm is the TRUE paradigm. They are simply all powerful and useful and worthy of respect. I go where my instinct calls me rather than where I have decided the ultimate truth is hiding, and therefore my practice has become MY ultimate truth. :)
@@madelineisley4667 Hehe, that's the concise way to put it, yeah.
I will be 75 in a little over a week..I was initiated when I was 19 and studied many years before that..and we did not have designated titles of Witches..a Witch was a Witch.. you might personaly specialize in different areas. but you were still just a Witch. Also honoring Christian deities would be unthinkable..You can honor who you wish I guess...But we would never honor those who want us dead..Who would take our children, our jobs.. break up families. But Like I said... we all have choices, I just do not understand the logic of being a Christian Witch.
They have a book that says Suffer not a Witch to live..yet there are people who also honor our deities as well as theirs. I think it blows my Mind.
@keirgazelle2451 I'm not a Christian witch. Definitely not. Also, not all Christians want us dead. My Catholic grandmother was cool with me being pagan. I'm a chaos witch and I've made tonnes of resources explaining to people what that means and why it's right for me.
Am I losing my mind or is that black scrying mirror hold hell herself? It started out like incense smoke then I saw a woman's face but just one side. 😮
❤🔥
I was just thinking we both work with a death goddess as well as mother Mary I work with Santa Muerte I have had people confused as how I can work with both of these two I really can't answer that all I know is I wouldn't want to be without either one and it works.
Isaiah55:6&7,"Seek the Lord while he may be found; call on him while he is near.Let the wicked forsake their ways and the unrighteous their thoughts.Let them turn to the Lord, and he will have mercy on them, and to our God, for he will freely pardon."
Repent, receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior today.This is God's invitation for redemption, Jesus loves you so much and he is the only WAY to eternity.God bless you
Oooh Hel, yes, give us some Help! 😽🔥🪄Gorgeous altar space❤
Love the main "HQ" and Mother Mary altars too...that neon light is so cool.
I use perfumes for witchywork as well, so fun! Thanks for sharing✨️
Love all 3 altars but Mary caught my heart. You said you pray the rosary, the traditional rosary or do you have customized prayers?
@@lynndorman1955I pray my own but have been resistant to putting it out, although I would like to.