The combination switch outlet explained
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- This one covers how to wire the combination switch outlet. This video is part of the heating and cooling series of training videos made to accompany my websites: www.graycoolingman.com and www.grayfurnaceman.com to pass on what I have learned in many years of service and repair. If you have suggestions or comments they are welcome.
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I've spent hours looking into this. Without a question this is the single best video on the subject, straight to the point, clearly spoken and I immediately got it working the way I wanted following your teachings. Thank you!
THANK YOU for your video. In 2 minutes you cleared up my wiring issue. Even the instructions on the box were wrong. You have made me a happy puppy.
Thanks. I was really stumped on an application I had for this kind of switch, outlet combo. Your explanation was simple, easy to understand, and you did not drag on about a lot of useless information.
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Used this Vid for "upgrading" to this Combo Switch. Found the description very useful. So many other resources get bogged down with details/diagrams... But when the layout/concept is made clear it just becomes Common Sense. So much more useful.
Unfortunately my Switch Box doesn't have any Grounding so I'll probably be either Upgrading again with a GFCI/Switch Combo (likely regardless) or adding/fixing the Grounding problem.
perfect ... that is exactly the video i need... no one else explains it.... Thank you
Thank You for this video. I had it wrong in my head but once you explained it it was very clear to me. Excellent job! Again, Thank You for this great explanation!
Thank you for the explanation of the different options. I intend to do the middle option and use the switch to control the outlet without a fixture. Many video only show you only what they intend to use it for and you have shown 3 options for use. Very clear, good sound right to the point. A+
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@@grayfurnaceman But wait a minute... LegalVideoMan said "without a fixture"... isn't that the only option that actually *wasn't* covered here?? It looks to me like all 3 of these examples involved the switch being connected to an appliance. Or maybe this type of switch/outlet unit is the wrong device for LegalVideoMan's needs?
love this type video sir! great job no music to the point explained three ways explained every connection and helped me wire bathroom vanity switch accesory combo! father bless you!
I tried to eliminate extraneous distractions because I also don't want to listen to music, etc when I want to learn something.
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Best video i’ve watched thats well explained with a lot of different ways to connect, great video 👍👍👍
being an hvac installer also means , you will have to learn , electrician work , and plumbers work ;) good video
I see that this video is 4 years old, well guess what- it still work, you just helped me out amazingly, thank you good sir..
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Wiring option 2 is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much!
Yep , excellent explanation and answered my question !
Keep up the great work you put in your videos , they are greatly appreciated !
GOD Bless
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Excellent! The included instructions for the GE switch are terrible for those that want to control the outlet with the switch. Your version #2 was just what I needed. Thanks!
Thanks for the tutorial. This explains why I shouldn't have connected the two separated screws together.
Glad it helped.
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tank you very much. i have been scratching my head over this one
Thanks man. Never knew what the tab was for/controlled.
Thank you for the straight forward and easy to understand explanation. The others I found are confusing compared to this.
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Video was excellent. It answered my questions I had about wiring my outlet.
Glad it helped.
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I watched many videos for getting help and your video was by far the best one. Thanks 🙏 for this informative video
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After blowing a breaker, I said "UA-cam has the answer." I wasn't disappointed. Thank you. Still relevant and I got the outlet switched as you noted. Perfect.
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REALLY GOOD ACCESSIBLE VIEW TO USE AND FUNCTIONS. THANKS
You made it simple, thank you!
Wow that was very help full. thank u.
perfect, switch controlling accessory only was exactly what I needed. thank you!
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This video was a big help. Thanks.
Yeah my man, we did it!!! After seeing other videos not so clear my wife found yours the best and the funniest! Thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Happy new year.
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You saved me some money buddy. I appreciate your video. It was very helpful.
Your the best Gray furnace man!!!
Thanks for the support.
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1:43 - Wiring the switch to control the plug. (thank you)
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Thanks, this short and clear video was very helpfull
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Thanks you for the clear explanation
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Best video for this on UA-cam very good!
Good explanation thank you I got it the first time
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Thank you. This video was very helpful. A+
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Interesting video, GFM. My old man installed this switch in a bathroom to control the ceiling light bulb. It isn't installed correctly because whatever is plugged into the socket, for example an electric razor, will be *off* when the switch is on, and the light bulb actually lights dimly when the switch is off while the razor is plugged in and turned on. I imagine i could figure out how it's wired, but i haven't bothered.
thank you so much!
Now I know why there is so much conflicting info out there. It's not about whether or not the jumper is still in place. People are harming themselves trying to remove those jumpers! Rather, it's simply about direction, it's about which side of the switch (which terminal) is connected to the appliance. Unless I misunderstood you, the jumper should NEVER need to be removed for the average person who just wants to add an outlet to a light switch, because making the outlet independent of the switch (or not) is simply a matter of direction. Thank you!
Awesome video!!!
Very helpful. Thank you.
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Thank you - very helpful
Thank you Gary!!
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3 Black connections one neutral works for me. jumper was helpfull
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Thank you SO much!!!
THANK YOU BUDDY...
good info for diyers, thank you ...
Hi, We have a 1949 home (old wiring) - wanting to change the light switch for light above the sink to a switch for the light plus a plug. We installed it, connected the two black wires and the two white to what we thought was the correct connection points, but the switch now controls the plug, turning the test stand of christmas lights on and off, and does nothing for the light above the sink... HELP!!!!
Where are all the know it all comments criticizing? good video. Thanks
Maybe they haven't seen it yet.
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thank you for sharing!!! GFM...
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Finally! Thank you.
what if i wanted to remove that and install a light switch? how would i do that?
I only have a red wire, black wire & white wire from the wall in my bathroom. How do I connect these colors?
Got me up and running with that pesky little switch/receptacle........thanks
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I need the 3rd option but my outlet has the brads and silver on one side than two black that are spaced out screws on the other side
Can you use it to only control what's plugged in to that outlet ?
How do I set the switch and outlet up separate, with power coming from the light
You ROCK!!!
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Great video. I'm trying to install this switch at the end. Only two wires coming from the box for the ceiling light switch
If your system has no ground, it wires just the same. You just have no ground to wire to the greed terminal. Hope this helps.
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grayfurnaceman I guess what I mean Is there are only two wires in the box. One black and one white. I think-Usually there two sets of wires. A Hot and neutral going into the box and hot and neutral leaving the box, maybe going to the light fixture on the ceiling. I have tried so many ways to wire this and I can not get the receptacle to stay hot when the light is on. When I turn the light off, the receptacle is hot.
I probably can't get real specific here, but power is brought to the light fixture from the panel. The hot lead is connected to the black at the fixture. that lead goes to the switch. When it passes thru the switch, the white goes back to the fixture. That white is the hot lead to the light. Hope this makes sense.
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grayfurnaceman thanks!!! I didn't think there was a way to do it with what I have.
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How would I go about wiring it if I just want to control the outlet with the switch? No other appliance or anything to feed.
Makes sense but confusing to use "hot wire" for both sides of the receptacle. Isn't one neutral lead / line and neutral load. With the other side hot line / lead and hot load? Or am I getting that incorrect? Other than that helped me understand how the switch impacts the receptical. Ty
How do u connect to another hot lead brass (outlet) when there's only one black wire from voltage connected to switch?
Davy Joe use a pig tail
Hope you can answer my question! I want to plug a string of 30 lights (7.5 watts each)
into the base plug and be able to turn them on or off using the switch. That would be
the ONLY use of the electrical device I ever had. Sounds to me like I would use your
#2 explanation....that is, the hot, neutral and ground all on one side. Is it that simple?
Thanks! Jim
That should do it.
GFM
So what's the difference between the first scenario and third scenario that you explained? Can I install this on an connection that is currently just a switch so that I can control the room light and have an outlet for anything else such as a tv?
Not sure how to answer here. The outlet switch assembly is quite simple. Its just a switch and an outlet. How it works is dependent on how it is wired. The outlet can be powered all the time or controlled by the switch. The explanation tells you ways to use or eliminate jumpers on the assembly.
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grayfurnaceman thanks for your reply I guess my question is if I want the outlet powered all the time I must break the jumper and wired it as the third scenario you showed correct?
so I followed these steps, it got my appliance to work but not the outlet. I only have a black (hot) and white (return) in the wall. I did (from a previous video remove the fin). Thinking that that would allow each to be powered independently as I need the outlet to be always hot. back to the drawing board. But I got farther with this video than any other.
Put a jumper to replace the fin on the hot side.
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Done! But the outlet still has no power. I’ll get it eventually!! Thank you
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+grayfurnaceman can the power come in on either side (Left side power input from panel, right side power output to the appliance, or Right side power input from panel left side output to appliance?
You need to identify the terminals. Silver for neutral and gold for hot.
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I'm trying to wire a switch like this JUST to turn the outlet off and on. In my case, the "appliance" is a small water pumped that would be plugged into the outlet. So am I correct that I just need to wire this with the lead and the neutral on the one side and nothing on the other side, but leaving the "breakable bridge" intact?
Got it. pretty simple. thanks.
Does this only work on outlets at the end of the circuit? I want the outlet underneath the switch to turn on and off but it's in the middle of the circuit. What will happen to the rest of the circuit when I turn off the switch? Thanks for the tutorial!
There is no reason the switch cannot be wired to pass power to the other elements.
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grayfurnaceman any different wiring to do that?
I need install split switch and plug outlet for Christmas tree
thanks! 🖒
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I kind of feel stupid for asking but if I wanted to use this to control my dust collector by plugging it into the outlet and turning the switch on, I would just wire up the one side with power, neutral, and ground, correct? In this scenario, there's no separate appliance, right? Essentially it would just be an extension cord I could turn off and on.
You have it right.
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I have used this to replace a light switch and gain a receptacle.
What about If I want the plug to be always hot be able to turn the disposal on and off?
Starting at about 1:10 in the video, the wiring explanation will set it up so the outlet is always hot and the switch will control the disposal.
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Is the light switch you install for the on/off switch on furnace a 15amp 120volt??
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thank you
how should i wire a single switch recept77acle to ab garbage dispossal ,when the that leads to the swit
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What if you want the switch to just control the on/off of the outlet - NO appliance in the circuit?
I want to connect my water pump to the switch.
1st break little tab
2nd connect Hot to switch from pump to copper switch post but where does my Nutrual connect its already taken by the white
Thx
The neutral is not switched. Connect to the incoming neutral.
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In the last scenario where the switch gets a hot to the appliance from the brass screw just above the silver neutral, and a hot feeds the lower brass after the bridge is cut, what if any thing is connected from the upper severed brass? Or is the appliance picking up it’s hot there? The reason I ask- someone wired the switch this that there with a red on the right side double uncut brass and the hot is on the single brass screw on the left. There is also a black ,(quiet black )with an additional jumper across the both the silver and brass screws. Room dark power in the socket, switch on , light on socket dies.
If it were a stand alone unit, no problem, but it wired into two other rooms such that wiring other than red alone on the double uncut brass, line hot to single brass and what I will call quiet black with a jumper across both brass and silver ( hot included) won’t allow other rooms to function at all.
Inside the box two whites are capped together. The box is grounded.
Wiring the usual way gives me great lights on the probe but isolates other rooms out. Wire the way it is probe says gnd and hot reverse.
Stumped unless I figure out.
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Can you use this combination outlet for garbage disposal replacing the existing outlet
It should work well.
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@@grayfurnaceman thank you.to tell you the truth I had my garbage disposal wired to the existing outlet with this combination we just had the kitchen remodeled and the guy said it was not hooked up right he didn't hook it back up when it placed a new or exposure so I was just asking I knew I did it right thank for replying back
Is there a way to do it where the switch turns the outlet on and off?
If you leave the bridge intact, wire the hot to the other side brass terminal, the switch will control the outlet.
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I have a very old house, my light switch only has one black and one white. Is it possible to install a combo switch with two wires?
The wiring does not have a ground wire. It is not necessary for the switch. You just will not wire the ground terminal.
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@@grayfurnaceman Thank you. I checked and it has one black wire and one white wire. NO ground, nothing else. The part I am confused about is that at 1:26 you say connect the neutral and the one on the left you say it goes to the appliance, but I have no extra wire to connect. At 1:33 is that terminal connected? Are you saying connect the white one there and it will control the light and also the 3 prong outlet will work? I only have two total wires in the box.
So in the first example, where I want appliance on the switch and the outlet always working, where do I attach my appliance neutral wire?
The neutral is connected to the silver terminals.
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The appliance neutral (white) wire should run directly to the buss bar in your breaker panel. A separate neutral should run from the silver terminal on the outlet to the breaker panel... or be pig-tailed to the appliance neutral inside the outlet box. Simply attaching the appliance neutral to the outlet terminal will not complete the circuit. (DIYer here)
So the switch has nothing to do with the outlet right? Is there a way that this switch controls the on/off function of the outlet below???
It can be used to control the outlet. You have to break off the jumper on the hot side and run the hot thru the switch.
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Can't you find those three options in the manual that come with the device?
+Chris Sysco I'm sure you could, but some people need it explained.
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You can, but it's technical and assumes prior knowledge about the product or application that is suited towards the product.
And that's just with the user friendly brands. Lol
If I want the switch to control the outlet where would I put the appliance neutral wire, you didn't mention that wire?
On the silver screws, it is not switched.
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I shocked 😳 myself
I have that in bathroom. Home was built 1920. And we don't even have a fan installed anywhere in bathroom! I'm trying to change that to a combo outlet but where would our switch go!😴😳😳😪😪😪🤔🤔🤔
I wanna use thay for a bathroom switch and night light for bottom that possible?😂
certainly. Just install it with the first explanation.
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yep
I like how the U.S. outlet and switch wiring is designed. Lot more flexible than the European ones.
Phew, this was a 3-fer/3x play, but it's sinking in.
A little chart on which configuration you're talking about might make it easier for us newbies.
But "in big picture " thanks for making and posting.
Great videography. I see the mark on the "stage". If that were a movie set, that would be the "nail it" mark.
maybe next time show how to break the bridge
Good thought.
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GFM, you got me studying the switch circuit. homeandgarden.formeremortals.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2015/02/hgmm-switch-receptacle-combo-4.jpg
i don't see how this switch can be safe because in the 2nd example, the power and neutral wires are reversed to the outlet, so the small outlet slot will be neutral and the larger slot will now be hot.
Am i missing something?
+Cooll Asice You are missing something. The neutral is always connected to the neutral (silver) terminal.
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+grayfurnaceman OK so unlike a regular switch or outlet, the terminal connections criss cross inside the unit. Thanks.
+Cooll Asice Well no. The terminals are wired pretty much directly.
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+grayfurnaceman Ok, but _inside_ the unit the wiring is criss crossed, so the neutral wire on one side of the thing is actually connected to the terminal on the *other* side, and vice versa.
This is what can be determined from the diagram.
+Cooll Asice The neutral is the larger slot on the same side as the silver neutral terminal. You are mistaken, there is no criss crossing going on. Look at the video, because the diagram you speak of is incorrect. It shows the neutral slot as the smaller slot, which isn't the case in real life. That is what is misleading you.
this only works if you do have a neutral wire. if you are in an old building and the neutral goes directly to the light, this wont work.
I need the 3rd option but my outlet has the brads and silver on one side than two black that are spaced out screws on the other side
I got the leviton T5225-IS