Were Greeks Nerfed Enough? - AoM Retold - Red Bull: El Reinado

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  • Age of Mythology Retold - Red Bull Wololo: El Reinado Qualifier - Recon (Isis) vs Wam01 (Zeus)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 67

  • @Angels-Haven
    @Angels-Haven 2 дні тому +35

    I don't think it's a question of nerfing all the things, but buffing the weaker things

    • @Touchin-Grass
      @Touchin-Grass 2 дні тому

      Doesn't that equate to the same thing lol ?

    • @Angels-Haven
      @Angels-Haven 2 дні тому +6

      @@Touchin-Grass it sounds like it would, but it is different

    • @Mecht
      @Mecht 2 дні тому +5

      @@Angels-Haven usually you bring things in line evenly. Some things that were underperforming were buffed, some that were over performing were nerfed. If you just do a general buff on everything that's not performing to the OP units level, you're likely to cause more issues down the line. This can be said for the balance of any game

    • @Mecht
      @Mecht 2 дні тому +1

      @@Dyanosis sure, if your buffs and nerfs aren't backed by data. Developers don't just change things on a whim, especially rts developers. They're not going to overshoot a buff by so much that it breaks the game, they're going to adjust it according to the data they've acquired. Same with nerfs. Both are necessary to mitigate the workload and keep things properly balanced.

    • @kevinkant6817
      @kevinkant6817 День тому

      Got that caulk out?

  • @moraine2442
    @moraine2442 2 дні тому +12

    I'm waiting for pro's to realize how much having a resource depot on both sides of a gold mine increases your gather rate because of worker walk time

    • @grottoguru6473
      @grottoguru6473 2 дні тому +2

      SAME. I'm a complete noob so I was second guessing myself when I'd do it

    • @mareephemeral1689
      @mareephemeral1689 2 дні тому +8

      Especially with Egyptians where adding even 2 or 3 to a gold mine is just a matter of a few seconds, since their depots are free

    • @thomasnoyon9571
      @thomasnoyon9571 2 дні тому +1

      @@mareephemeral1689 I agree, except when you want to be empowering that gold mine and you want all the villagers to drop in the same depot

    • @Raven5431
      @Raven5431 День тому

      ​@thomasnoyon9571 ya I thought about that as well. I sapose the best one for this would be RA

    • @mr.kittens6747
      @mr.kittens6747 День тому

      @@thomasnoyon9571 if you empower a monument within their range, won't all builds get empowered? or is that just a Ra thing?

  • @chadmichael1218
    @chadmichael1218 День тому +1

    That horse rush was relentless.

  • @grottoguru6473
    @grottoguru6473 День тому +1

    Oranos' Katapeltes + Weightless Mace + Empyrean Speed is quite happy about the hippeus/centaur meta

    • @zeusleague.
      @zeusleague. 18 годин тому +1

      Not so much of Prodromos/Centaur meta tho.

  • @killjoy4341
    @killjoy4341 2 дні тому +2

    This was a great cast thanks for covering this tournament🎉🎉

  • @keeganmenezes5906
    @keeganmenezes5906 День тому +1

    I think that attack+move might be glitched until now
    I've seen multiple games where range could easily attack something but just walked over to the unit instead

  • @mrande913a
    @mrande913a 2 дні тому +2

    Just commenting to help Fitz out

  • @sqwbamaus2525
    @sqwbamaus2525 День тому +2

    At least give Greek heroes unit classes, so they take bonus damage. Its annoying how perfect they've made them. I know you can mass the others but Hersir cant even 1v1 alot of myth units & priests die so fast for their price. Godi is good just wish everyone else had at least 1 Marquee hero to snipe Myth as well & tank big engagements.

  • @rohitp5023
    @rohitp5023 2 дні тому

    This was like a cockroach fighting back.. appreciate the hustle !!

  • @RuptureFarmsProducts
    @RuptureFarmsProducts 2 дні тому +4

    is there a reason they dont play maps with sea-water and ships in general?

    • @Mecht
      @Mecht 2 дні тому

      Probably because of how oppressive some major gods are on water vs how poor others do

    • @franciscomelendeze
      @franciscomelendeze 2 дні тому +1

      @@Mecht which mayor gods do really well on water? so far ive only seen minor gods with buffs to navy.

    • @Angels-Haven
      @Angels-Haven 2 дні тому +9

      because nobody likes them

    • @Mecht
      @Mecht 2 дні тому +2

      @@franciscomelendeze major gods with access to multiple minor gods with good navy vs those with no access to minor gods with navy basically

    • @tyranidswarmlord9722
      @tyranidswarmlord9722 2 дні тому +2

      ​@@franciscomelendeze in Water fights, Water Myth Units screw everything over.
      Meanwhile Greeks have the only singular Hero Boat with the Argo, who just hardcounters everyone.
      Guess who'll hard counter everything.
      It's dumb.

  • @33mavboy
    @33mavboy 2 дні тому

    Joey needs to double down on the walls if hes being raided constantly, only if he knew you can garrison units in siege towers he could of pushed those archers, kill the siege

  • @TegPi
    @TegPi 2 дні тому +1

    WOLOLO!

  • @akaMaddy
    @akaMaddy 2 дні тому

    Is it just me or de we hardly see village centers in pro games? If you play egyptians, make one or two village centers at the outer gold mines, (if there is no tc settlement nearby) so when the raiding party comes the villagers can hide until your own army arrives instead of walking away and getting killed. Maybe it's a stupid idea idk. 🤷‍♂️

    • @littlej211
      @littlej211 День тому +1

      I occasionally see people build a gurad tower near resources instead. You can garrison in those and they are way cheaper and faster to build. Perhaps a village center is just so expensive that it's gard to justify getting one when you could get a full TC for the same price

  • @afzal1104
    @afzal1104 День тому

    why was Set banned from the tournament?

  • @Spiror
    @Spiror 2 дні тому

    Fun fact with hades i check, my nemean lion and cyclop now have more hp then chimaera which is mythic age unit 😂😂😂 , also chimaera have 350 food and cyclop have 150 food and fun fact is cyclop also do aoe dps 😅😅😅

  • @veganism_is_superior
    @veganism_is_superior 2 дні тому +2

    nerf greeks

  • @jakubhancin3078
    @jakubhancin3078 2 дні тому +1

    28:42 -> ohoh, I think I've seent this online before -> Are you referring to some kind of a pron casting couch situation? One white person being surrounded by darker skinned people?

  • @ukkiesc5087
    @ukkiesc5087 2 дні тому

    Is it normal to have such gg times in this game? As someone that is used to sc2 tournaments it seems kinda BM to stay in so long

    • @ukkiesc5087
      @ukkiesc5087 2 дні тому

      He actually didnt even gg? Thats insane

    • @aantony2001
      @aantony2001 День тому

      From what I've seen that's probably not typical.

    • @seanowheels
      @seanowheels День тому

      What's sc2 and what about Bowel Movements?

  • @Raven5431
    @Raven5431 День тому

    Egyt feels kinda weak in second age especially compaired to greeks.
    Priest weaker and cost a lot of gold until age 3 which is slowed down. Plus greek can basically get 2 infinit resources early on food and favor for myth and egypt cant get traders until age 3 which makes eco boom harder so gettin the 50% reduced farms is almost essential if you hope to one day age up and even then getting favor is hard to get up and running if you want to run myth with your priest to try to compete with greek myth armies.
    I do like isis but right off the bat you find yourself thinking dam im out of gold running low on food and still have very little farms trying to keep up with army counts.

  • @spazghetti7204
    @spazghetti7204 2 дні тому

    Can anyone tell me why I am not seeing any water maps when I play online? Are they not in rotation rn or what?

    • @goochipoochie
      @goochipoochie 2 дні тому

      There are atleast 2 water maps which i remember (the one with sea on both sides and one with river in the middle)

  • @Jcoke2201
    @Jcoke2201 2 дні тому +2

    a comment to boost the algorithm

  • @grymdylan
    @grymdylan 2 дні тому

    guys this might sound stupid but how do you customise your online colour? i am becoming desperate because i can't figure it out

    • @nigelbenzini6077
      @nigelbenzini6077 2 дні тому +8

      Go to accessibility in settings , on the “colour sets” change 1 and 2 to anything you like and it will be changed online rather than the default blue vs red

    • @grottoguru6473
      @grottoguru6473 2 дні тому

      @@nigelbenzini6077 ^

    • @grymdylan
      @grymdylan День тому

      @@nigelbenzini6077 oh my god I assumed that would only affect me. What a game changer. Thank you!

  • @serket6807
    @serket6807 2 дні тому

    Satyr = say-ter and hepheastus = heh-fes-tus

  • @MrGeorge102
    @MrGeorge102 2 дні тому

    Please don’t nerf my Greek boys 😢

  • @mathiasdu30000
    @mathiasdu30000 2 дні тому +1

    !!! SPOILER !!!
    I have a big problem with AOM as well as with AOE4 and such games. I don't get how it is possible to turtle so much, at 17 mins joey has 2 army pop against 50 and miraculously the game still goes on for another 13 mins, I don't get why building destruction is so slow

    • @goochipoochie
      @goochipoochie 2 дні тому +8

      Why wouldn't building destruction be slow ?
      What's the point of fortress and walls then if they can be broken by foot soldiers

    • @mathiasdu30000
      @mathiasdu30000 2 дні тому

      @@goochipoochie Fortress I can understand but I just think it slows the game way too much and allow player to do stupid mistake and not really be punished for it because depending on your army you just can't end the game even when you have a massive army advantage

    • @paladin9876
      @paladin9876 2 дні тому

      he was barely attacking it lol

    • @grottoguru6473
      @grottoguru6473 2 дні тому +6

      Huh? Bruh. You shouldn't be instantly dead because your opponent has a higher military pop. If that were the case every game would be 5-8mins

    • @Kioget
      @Kioget 2 дні тому

      imagine learning the game

  • @felixsonntag465
    @felixsonntag465 День тому

    Wonderful Game ❤