@@martinc9750 there are another 6 speakers coming, and a lot planned outside of the speakers too. We have a FB group which is the best way to stay on the mix and also get other free stuff others don’t. facebook.com/share/Vkj23vHH1ubpHWFT/?mibextid=K35XfP
Really cool technology, since there are lots of speakers out there and preferences differ significantly, I think this will start going through the roof when people learn to this speaker profiling with their own physical setup.
You absolute madlads. As soon as you added the sub into the game i couldnt stop chuckling holy crap this is insanely cool. I'm sold! Will buy right now. Thank you for creating this
@@neutron_audio i love it. This will be my guitar recording solution from now on. It feels so much more inspiring to work with faders to shape the sound instead of flipping through 1000s of files. Also the room mics really bring it home for me it simply sounds insanely good. I‘m eagerly awaiting your next release. Any infos on the release yet? Again THANK YOU for creating this, i genuinely hope you guys will earn a crapload of money with that ♥️
@@loneryouth Yes, we are planning a free preview right now of V30 in a fun pack with loads of other Neutron goodies to try (sometime in the next few weeks), and the full V30 pack will follow soon after... we have a lot more QS action planned as well as more of our other products.. if you join us on the Facebook Group here: facebook.com/groups/1712386306166179 you can even vote for the one you want to see next after V30! come join the fun...
Good Evening, thank you! You should head over to our FB group!. There is a lot of dicussion and advice + FREE Stuff over there! facebook.com/groups/1712386306166179/
A lot of that "realness" is actually a by-product of the fact that we are using the correct type of tool to capture the speaker and mic.. Speakers (and mics) are a non-linear transducer, and guitar speakers particularly are designed to exhibit unique non-linear behaviours as their individual "voice". IRs are linear EQ curves only, they capture no dynamics and no non-linear behaviour.. what you get instead is an average of the frequency response, and that can sound quite similar (mainly due to our inability to discern changes in sound over time) but will lack the detail of dynamics and non-linearity. IRs can even be made to sound almost exactly the same if the speaker is very quiet (in that case it will exhibit much less non-linear behaviour.. this is an easy way to create a fake test to fool people that IRs sound exactly like real speakers, and is often used as an argument against people saying they dont sound real..beware!)> So, by using a system designed to capture non-linear behavior (Like NAM) Quantum speaker contains all of that information and mimics the behavior perfectly.. therefore it sounds real, and that includes the ability to turn the virtual speaker's volume up and down and have it change behavior like a real one :)
This is great! Considering NAM Universal just came out, conveniently with two NAM blocks built in it's like the perfect timing. :D Picked up this pack and will give it a spin! cheers guys ps: Just had a peep at the manual. In Reaper, you can also do parallel processing with fx containers. pps: This is super cool. I love utilizing existing tech to ring something new to the table. :D
HOPING you lads do Eminence Lengend and Dv77 speakers soon. Consider me convinced, this is a great method of capturing speaker characteristics. cheers
32:30 How are are these sub frequencies useful in a full mix context though ? Aren't they gonna get highpassed anyway in most situations ? I can understand how it would be cool to play with it by yourself, but otherwise...
Wow this is freakin awesome! I’ll be buying every speaker you guys do. How in the heck did you capture just a speaker? Maybe using a super hifi stereo amp? Also wondering are these feather or lite captures since they probably don’t need as much processing as regular captures? I ask because I can see running out of cpu when running 4 nam amps and then for each I could use 4 of your nam speaker captures for a total of 16 nam instances running. Super stoked for these!
Hey! Neutron Stu here.. Well, I can answer, but.. bearing in mind we are the first company to do this I am not really in a hurry to explain exactly how just yet, what I will say is the amp used was the easiest problem to solve, and you are on the right track with the reference quality, low THD amplifier idea. As far as the captures are concerned, no they are full-fat NAM profiles.. sorry but only the best sound will do. You have the freeze feature anyway if you run out of juice, but we are not in the business of putting out "lite" versions.. I am prepared to look at this in the future, but only on the basis that there is NO discernable difference in sound.. It could be down to the fact that they are less complex in nature than the crazy distortion in an amp capture, and possibly NAM uses less resources in that case.. not sure. I will ask the author when i get a chance as this may be why, I have noticed the same thing and that was another reason why I never looked into the lite profiles... ohh and we have LOTS more coming.. starting with V30 next. Free sample of that will be in our next free pack, make sure you check in on the Neutron Users FB group so you know when that drops. On a personal note, thanks very much for you custom and endorsement of what we are doing. It means a lot to hear that you enjoy them.
@@stuartbradbury944 I have no qualms about freezing, so that's awesome to hear. Never ever sacrifice quality! I've made my first purchase from you guys, and I'm already liking the company. Sounds like you take pride in your product. I won't have a chance to test it out until tomorrow, but I already feel confident in my purchase.✌
@@samdix5831 Perhaps I'm missing the point here.... but in a typical sense, wouldn't you want to "Send" the guitar amp tone from one channel to the multiple speaker NAM instances.... as if it was one guitar amp being mic'd up by several mics? That way its only one initial NAM instance Anyway, I know there are no hard and fast rules, but if you were just creating a "Live" sound from "One" amp into a cab mic'd up by several mics then that would be the easiest way to do it
Feel free to join our FB user group as we always have someone there to give advice etc to our users! facebook.com/share/9ULgt5vBaty1Fta3/?mibextid=K35XfP
@AlexisGitarre These are not IRs, They are Non-linear Speaker and Mic profiles for the free Neural Amp Modeler plugin. Don't worry if you are not aware of these, we are the first to release them! You can think of this as the natural evolution of IRs, containing all the information of the original sound instead of only 1 part as is the case in an IR (Just an EQ curve) These profiles include all the dynamics and breakup of the speaker and Mic. The Sub is just 1 of 27 mic options included in the full Quantum Speaker pack.
Neural Amp modeler really NEEDS STEREO CAPABILITIES! The workarounds are a pain, and can sometimes cause issues. It shouldn't be too hard to implement as a feature. That's my wish
It is extremely rare to find professionally recorded electric guitar with genuine stereo sources. It is certainly not a limiting factor here, as we capture stereo for the room using Blumlein Pairs which far from a workaround are a far superior method used by professional engineers to capture hyper-realistic stereo sound in a space. Since we are aiming to faithfully reproduce the real experience and resulting recordings of a speaker captured with microphones in a professional studio, stereo in this case would provide no benefit at all. I suppose having stereo quickstart files could be nice, but those are only intended to let you audition the sound of each speaker before you delve into the discrete mics and start making your own sounds, at which point you can pan them as you like, and use the figure 8 mics to create very spacially accurate stereo of the room. We are not the authors of the NAM plugin, so if you want features added to NAM, can I suggest that you request those on the official NAM facebook group? (facebook.com/groups/neuralampmodeler/) I know some guys on there are looking at capturing outboard gear and are also asking about stereo, for that it would definitely be needed.
If you want more bass in your sound yes :) The sub simply a tool to replace the need for destructive EQ to get a fuller sound. The Ideal situation is to get as much of the core tone that you want from the mics before you eq anything. You do this by blending them together. It has been traditionally quite difficult to achieve a really full sounding low end on some guitar speakers, and so it often needs a lot of eq added to get there. The sub solves that problem and give you a low frequency feed to blend with the other mics which can provide as much bass as you want, even on an open backed 1x12 it can sound like THUNDER! :) play with it and you will see how it works.. And come join us on our Facebook Group page here: facebook.com/groups/1712386306166179 if you have any questions you can ask us directly there !
Might have forgot to mention. The vintage 30 is out. NOW!
I may have missed this, I’m presuming as time goes on, there’s going to be additional packs with different speakers ?
@@martinc9750 there are another 6 speakers coming, and a lot planned outside of the speakers too. We have a FB group which is the best way to stay on the mix and also get other free stuff others don’t. facebook.com/share/Vkj23vHH1ubpHWFT/?mibextid=K35XfP
Really cool technology, since there are lots of speakers out there and preferences differ significantly, I think this will start going through the roof when people learn to this speaker profiling with their own physical setup.
Fascinating, Captain!
Great as always!!!
Goood evening one and all.
You absolute madlads. As soon as you added the sub into the game i couldnt stop chuckling holy crap this is insanely cool. I'm sold! Will buy right now. Thank you for creating this
@@loneryouth thank you:-) It’s Super cool. Let us know you find it. Team Neutron
@@neutron_audio i love it. This will be my guitar recording solution from now on. It feels so much more inspiring to work with faders to shape the sound instead of flipping through 1000s of files. Also the room mics really bring it home for me it simply sounds insanely good. I‘m eagerly awaiting your next release. Any infos on the release yet?
Again THANK YOU for creating this, i genuinely hope you guys will earn a crapload of money with that ♥️
@@loneryouth Yes, we are planning a free preview right now of V30 in a fun pack with loads of other Neutron goodies to try (sometime in the next few weeks), and the full V30 pack will follow soon after... we have a lot more QS action planned as well as more of our other products.. if you join us on the Facebook Group here: facebook.com/groups/1712386306166179 you can even vote for the one you want to see next after V30! come join the fun...
Good info. Little by little I'm getting a better sense of how to use your Quantum speaker. Look forward to the next video.
Good Evening, thank you! You should head over to our FB group!. There is a lot of dicussion and advice + FREE Stuff over there! facebook.com/groups/1712386306166179/
@@neutron_audio Any plans to be present on any other social media type platforms? Missing a ton of people who do not use Facebook for various reasons.
That SUB device is really cool.
@@TudorAdrian :-)
The Fender/Eminence Gold Label and we are not talking Whiskey or T if your from the UK:) IS OUT NOW:_))))))
Would be great to see the V30! Instant buy!
Coming soon! this will be the next QS pack released.
Out now 👍
This Sounds so real! I would really like to know how you guys have done this:) Very cool!
A lot of that "realness" is actually a by-product of the fact that we are using the correct type of tool to capture the speaker and mic.. Speakers (and mics) are a non-linear transducer, and guitar speakers particularly are designed to exhibit unique non-linear behaviours as their individual "voice". IRs are linear EQ curves only, they capture no dynamics and no non-linear behaviour.. what you get instead is an average of the frequency response, and that can sound quite similar (mainly due to our inability to discern changes in sound over time) but will lack the detail of dynamics and non-linearity. IRs can even be made to sound almost exactly the same if the speaker is very quiet (in that case it will exhibit much less non-linear behaviour.. this is an easy way to create a fake test to fool people that IRs sound exactly like real speakers, and is often used as an argument against people saying they dont sound real..beware!)> So, by using a system designed to capture non-linear behavior (Like NAM) Quantum speaker contains all of that information and mimics the behavior perfectly.. therefore it sounds real, and that includes the ability to turn the virtual speaker's volume up and down and have it change behavior like a real one :)
This is great! Considering NAM Universal just came out, conveniently with two NAM blocks built in it's like the perfect timing. :D
Picked up this pack and will give it a spin!
cheers guys
ps: Just had a peep at the manual. In Reaper, you can also do parallel processing with fx containers.
pps: This is super cool. I love utilizing existing tech to ring something new to the table. :D
@@cmd_f5 evening! The second we saw that, it was like a movie when two people turn and smile at each other when it clicks. Very cool.
HOPING you lads do Eminence Lengend and Dv77 speakers soon. Consider me convinced, this is a great method of capturing speaker characteristics.
cheers
32:30 How are are these sub frequencies useful in a full mix context though ? Aren't they gonna get highpassed anyway in most situations ?
I can understand how it would be cool to play with it by yourself, but otherwise...
There is a fuller description on the full video. ua-cam.com/video/pP0b1sQ6C6o/v-deo.html
@subson you should 100% head over there. Might be a thread running on that exact topic. Tee hee!
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Wow this is freakin awesome! I’ll be buying every speaker you guys do. How in the heck did you capture just a speaker? Maybe using a super hifi stereo amp? Also wondering are these feather or lite captures since they probably don’t need as much processing as regular captures? I ask because I can see running out of cpu when running 4 nam amps and then for each I could use 4 of your nam speaker captures for a total of 16 nam instances running. Super stoked for these!
Hey! Neutron Stu here.. Well, I can answer, but.. bearing in mind we are the first company to do this I am not really in a hurry to explain exactly how just yet, what I will say is the amp used was the easiest problem to solve, and you are on the right track with the reference quality, low THD amplifier idea. As far as the captures are concerned, no they are full-fat NAM profiles.. sorry but only the best sound will do. You have the freeze feature anyway if you run out of juice, but we are not in the business of putting out "lite" versions.. I am prepared to look at this in the future, but only on the basis that there is NO discernable difference in sound.. It could be down to the fact that they are less complex in nature than the crazy distortion in an amp capture, and possibly NAM uses less resources in that case.. not sure. I will ask the author when i get a chance as this may be why, I have noticed the same thing and that was another reason why I never looked into the lite profiles... ohh and we have LOTS more coming.. starting with V30 next. Free sample of that will be in our next free pack, make sure you check in on the Neutron Users FB group so you know when that drops. On a personal note, thanks very much for you custom and endorsement of what we are doing. It means a lot to hear that you enjoy them.
@@stuartbradbury944 I have no qualms about freezing, so that's awesome to hear. Never ever sacrifice quality!
I've made my first purchase from you guys, and I'm already liking the company. Sounds like you take pride in your product.
I won't have a chance to test it out until tomorrow, but I already feel confident in my purchase.✌
@@samdix5831 Perhaps I'm missing the point here.... but in a typical sense, wouldn't you want to "Send" the guitar amp tone from one channel to the multiple speaker NAM instances.... as if it was one guitar amp being mic'd up by several mics? That way its only one initial NAM instance
Anyway, I know there are no hard and fast rules, but if you were just creating a "Live" sound from "One" amp into a cab mic'd up by several mics then that would be the easiest way to do it
I bought the $30 pack thinking the sub would be included. Since it's not, how do you get it?
@@samdix5831 happy Sunday. The Sub is included in the Mic folder. It is one of the 27 Mics. Any further issues please let me know.
Feel free to join our FB user group as we always have someone there to give advice etc to our users! facebook.com/share/9ULgt5vBaty1Fta3/?mibextid=K35XfP
So Where to get the SUB IR? 🤔
@AlexisGitarre These are not IRs, They are Non-linear Speaker and Mic profiles for the free Neural Amp Modeler plugin. Don't worry if you are not aware of these, we are the first to release them! You can think of this as the natural evolution of IRs, containing all the information of the original sound instead of only 1 part as is the case in an IR (Just an EQ curve) These profiles include all the dynamics and breakup of the speaker and Mic. The Sub is just 1 of 27 mic options included in the full Quantum Speaker pack.
Neural Amp modeler really NEEDS STEREO CAPABILITIES! The workarounds are a pain, and can sometimes cause issues. It shouldn't be too hard to implement as a feature. That's my wish
It is extremely rare to find professionally recorded electric guitar with genuine stereo sources. It is certainly not a limiting factor here, as we capture stereo for the room using Blumlein Pairs which far from a workaround are a far superior method used by professional engineers to capture hyper-realistic stereo sound in a space. Since we are aiming to faithfully reproduce the real experience and resulting recordings of a speaker captured with microphones in a professional studio, stereo in this case would provide no benefit at all. I suppose having stereo quickstart files could be nice, but those are only intended to let you audition the sound of each speaker before you delve into the discrete mics and start making your own sounds, at which point you can pan them as you like, and use the figure 8 mics to create very spacially accurate stereo of the room. We are not the authors of the NAM plugin, so if you want features added to NAM, can I suggest that you request those on the official NAM facebook group? (facebook.com/groups/neuralampmodeler/) I know some guys on there are looking at capturing outboard gear and are also asking about stereo, for that it would definitely be needed.
Then go for nam universal based on Steves nam modeler
Ok, so I should run mic+sub?
If you want more bass in your sound yes :) The sub simply a tool to replace the need for destructive EQ to get a fuller sound. The Ideal situation is to get as much of the core tone that you want from the mics before you eq anything. You do this by blending them together. It has been traditionally quite difficult to achieve a really full sounding low end on some guitar speakers, and so it often needs a lot of eq added to get there. The sub solves that problem and give you a low frequency feed to blend with the other mics which can provide as much bass as you want, even on an open backed 1x12 it can sound like THUNDER! :) play with it and you will see how it works.. And come join us on our Facebook Group page here: facebook.com/groups/1712386306166179 if you have any questions you can ask us directly there !
the subtitles are majorly anxiety-inducing imo
Sorry dude, I only realised after it was too late. Ill make sure I get the Iron Maiden font back out for the next vid:) Maybe try some sunglasses!
@@neutron_audioaha it's OK I just can't focus with that much motion at the bottom. not that I really needed to look at the screen lol
Man, you are talking too much. First show us something good, than describe it, and what it is. I couldn't listen to this blabbering.