That's the problem I'm from NY and after they put a BILLION in renovations its very underwhelming. Go by the arena not the history or that its in Manhattan the arena itself is just ok and disappointing
You should mention who Tex (Rickard) is. The Penn RR sold the 'air rights' to developers, the Penn Station property was still owned the RR even though the site was a financial drain on the company. If this hadn't happened, MSG could have been stuck at the 49th St location and perhaps ended up in a West End RR yard. Wasn't 'wear and tear' that prompted the reno, it was $$$'s and adding far more pricey ways to get dollars from corporate and individual customers. As far as 'history', 3 championship teams since 1968 51 years - not many. Only because it's in midtown does the 'aura' persist. It only the politicians who don't get campaign $$$'s from the Dolan family who want them off the property by squeezing them on tax credits. The 'new Penn' plan is an over-priced boondoggle (like the LIRR east side connection') that will fleece NYC/NYS taxpayers for generations to come. MTA is billions in debt and this would make it worse.
All good points. Yeah, there’s so much history in this place it’s too much to squeeze in my video. It has a checkered past for sure, there’s lots of rinks that have this type of corporate greed and corruption. I don’t get into the social issues regarding building hockey rinks (private/public, eminent domain etc), it will be a video coming down the line though. As a father of four children, a new hospital/School trumps a sports arena any day.
It's a unique shape for sure, but characteristics that add to the building!
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This MSG is never going to be demolished because it's a historic landmark that's naned after our president just as the Seattle arena and its historical roof? Its not going nowhere
God I hope not! I really love that place. But it sounds like plans are already taking place. They have locations picked out and plans in place. Time will tell I guess.
Well, technically, the original arena was named after its location on Madison Square (near 23rd Street). And, yes, the irony is that the building whose construction gave rise to the landmarks commission could end up being saved by it. There are fewer and fewer people who remember old Penn Station and still harbor bitterness towards the building that replaced it. "One entered the city like a god. One scuttles in now like a rat". Architectural historian Vincent Scully commenting on old Pennsylvania Station and its replacement.
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@@darryljorden9177 but its named after the president before because there was an original location far as last name
I would love to see a game at MSG.. not because I am a Rangers fan.. just because it’s MSG
If you're a fan of hockey at all, it's a must see!
definitely
That's the problem I'm from NY and after they put a BILLION in renovations its very underwhelming. Go by the arena not the history or that its in Manhattan the arena itself is just ok and disappointing
Great video! Just a heads up, some of the wikipedia links in description are missing the ) so they don't open properly
anthonyorm cheers thanks!
Huh, I don't know what's wrong with the links. You're right, they don't work but I'm literally copy and pasting links to the pages on Wiki. Dunno?
This was awesome.
Thanks Marko!
I've seen the Madison Square Garden when I was at NY but I've never been inside that world's biggest and largest arena
They do offer(or at least did) offer tours. If you're a fan of hockey/rinks I highly recommend going!
@@_TheRinks okay. But because of the Pandemic, it may be in the near future
Keeshan Dave for sure! Stay safe!
Also home of the WWF-E
They don't know
You should mention who Tex (Rickard) is. The Penn RR sold the 'air rights' to developers, the Penn Station property was still owned the RR even though the site
was a financial drain on the company. If this hadn't happened, MSG could have been stuck at the 49th St location and perhaps ended up in a West End RR yard.
Wasn't 'wear and tear' that prompted the reno, it was $$$'s and adding far more pricey ways to get dollars from corporate and individual customers.
As far as 'history', 3 championship teams since 1968 51 years - not many. Only because it's in midtown does the 'aura' persist.
It only the politicians who don't get campaign $$$'s from the Dolan family who want them off the property by squeezing them on tax credits.
The 'new Penn' plan is an over-priced boondoggle (like the LIRR east side connection') that will fleece NYC/NYS taxpayers for generations to come.
MTA is billions in debt and this would make it worse.
All good points. Yeah, there’s so much history in this place it’s too much to squeeze in my video. It has a checkered past for sure, there’s lots of rinks that have this type of corporate greed and corruption. I don’t get into the social issues regarding building hockey rinks (private/public, eminent domain etc), it will be a video coming down the line though. As a father of four children, a new hospital/School trumps a sports arena any day.
wiedep Good call!!! Definitely not a hockey team from Dallas
When the goal horn is the old firefighter siren.
A $1B renovation seems like a rather expensive "interim" solution if a new arena might be later be required. !?
It would be hard to build a new arena in middle of New-York.
They’ve already allocated space for its new edition. So if they move - it could happen.
MSG renovation was 3 phases not 2
Your are correct!
Let's go Rangers!
Wouldn’t MSG be protected now by the historic preservation act that was designed to prevent further buildings like MSG? Irony.
This is true. I wonder what would happen!
You do a good job here
Cheers thanks for watching. Always trying to make the thing grow so feel free to tell your friends! haha.
Its really a gigantic ballroom cookie cutter arena that's not really made for ice hockey if you look at the lower bowl seats
It's a unique shape for sure, but characteristics that add to the building!
This MSG is never going to be demolished because it's a historic landmark that's naned after our president just as the Seattle arena and its historical roof? Its not going nowhere
God I hope not! I really love that place. But it sounds like plans are already taking place. They have locations picked out and plans in place. Time will tell I guess.
Well, technically, the original arena was named after its location on Madison Square (near 23rd Street). And, yes, the irony is that the building whose construction gave rise to the landmarks commission could end up being saved by it. There are fewer and fewer people who remember old Penn Station and still harbor bitterness towards the building that replaced it.
"One entered the city like a god. One scuttles in now like a rat". Architectural historian Vincent Scully commenting on old Pennsylvania Station and its replacement.
@@darryljorden9177 but its named after the president before because there was an original location far as last name
MSG
James Dolan will not move MSG. Penn Station made be run down but its not as important to the people of nyc as MSG believe me.