Steph Curry's greatness is drastically underappreciated - Emmanuel Acho | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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- Ric Bucher joins Marcellus Wiley and Emmanuel Acho to discuss if Golden State Warriors star Steph Curry is underappreciated. Hear why Acho believes Steph's ability to put himself second to the team is one of his greatest attributes as a player.
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Steph Curry's greatness is drastically under-appreciated - Emmanuel Acho | NBA | SPEAK FOR YOURSELF
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Is Steph Curry's greatness underappreciated?
Helllz yaaaa! He had more of a "like Mike" impact than anyone else since Mike!
Who is greater? The guy who changed how the game is played or a guy who had to join a stacked team to win a chip
@@ichabodcraen KD Has 2 Finals MVPs Curry Has 0 Curry Could Have Easily Told Management They Didnt Need KD To Win Clearly They Did
Yes
@@TypicalBlakk Steph also is a 2x MVP with the only unanimous one. Steph at least won one before the Hampton four or what ever there nickname was. KD still needs an all-star team to win
Steph curry has way more love from the fans than the media because we know what we get when we about to watch him play
The media felt betrayed when GSW got KD back then so they punishing Curry for that.. ahehehe. But we all know Steph's greatness. =)
He got the kids
Thank u. Because when I see him play he kinda reminds me of MJ. A killer but more calmer than Jordan. That's why he is called the baby face assassin. He's also very competitive and has the will to win like MJ.
Scottie Pippen said if we had to face them I would be the one who would have to guard him. With that range who's designed to defend that?
The media voted him back to back mvps and the 1st unanimously... so there that go
To be fair, Steph still got double teamed with KD on the team. They need to put some respect on his name. And we all know Steph deserved that first finals mvp stop the cap
Steph deserved the 2nd KD one too. He had one quiet game in the sweep and that was enough of an excuse to just hand it to KD. But finals record for 3s in gm1 and was shooting lights out throughout!
@@charlieakateddy Exactly. Even that first one with KD Steph averaged like 28 9 9. Like what ppl talking about. He had one bad finials and it’s very likely he was hurt
Both MVP's was supposed to go to Steph😪
@@astrocade9541 he defo was hurt - he missed big chunks twice during playoffs leading up to that one bad finals where he "choked" 🙄 pundits like Skip got selective memory with Steph
Facts they would rather let KD go one on one than let Steph just go crazy on them
Steph Curry is the definition of dominating a game. He dominated the game so much he literally changed the game. Not even MJ changed it as much as Steph did. He just did it differently than people are used to seeing it.
I think mj changed it in a different way. Mj made the game worldwide without mj a lot people wouldn’t be watching the nba or playing in it
Steph has done all of that also. Jordan was the most famous athlete in the entire world for a while. As the most famous athlete, more people played and watched basketball because of Jordan. A lot of kids wanted to be Jordan. Steph has the same thing, but on top of it all the way he moves without the ball and his shooting has changed the expected skill sets for players for the foreseeable future.
People like Shaq (who cannot shoot 3s, or even foul shots) are not as desirable in this area.
MJ didn’t change the league wide skill set that almost every team builds around.
Traditional centers are just not as valuable.
I’ve called it Stupid Moneyball (Because Moneyball involved understanding that a batters worth isn’t just in their home runs and hits, but their statistics of getting on base overall. And this just involves recognition that the number 3 is greater than 2. If a players field goal percentage is 45%, but their 3 point field goal percentage is 35%, then having them shoot a 2 pointer costs you points.
Don’t know why that was hard to understand.
ReRead What You Just Typed.
@@brad4571 You're underestimating MJs popularity. Steph has nowhere near the market capital that prime Jordan had, only magic lbj and Kobe have come close to matching that and even they fall short. It was a particular time of burgeoning media globalisation that will not be repeated again no matter how great Steph is. He was not just the most famous athlete, he was arguably the most famous person in the world at one point.
@@brad4571 Steph hasn't done that. He's just changed the way it's played. Michael Jordan had the NBA ratings above the NFL during his years. Curry LeBron, Kobe combined never came close as the NFL is the most watched sport in America.
Media wants to denie his greatness but us real fans know his greatness.
Facts... The boy cracking the T10 all time and they gone be salty ( LeBron fan since 05)
He’s top 5 when he’s done. I think he’s better than Lebron honestly because he can fit in any team. You can’t put Lebron on the blazers. Besides he would’ve beat Lebron two years in a row without kd if the nba didn’t do him a favor.
9th seed. I guess winning doesn't matter anymore.
He's having great numbers though.
@@maqsudlatif3266 look at his team my guy. You’re definitely a casual. They literally have no depth
Excuses dont matter his roster is not an excuse for losing. They should at least be a 6 or 7 seed. Great player top 20. Cant be top 10 who could you take off.
I’m convinced that no matter what curry does he’ll just get slammed and slander for it
Well see if you look at this particular game with 3:13 seconds left in the quarter he was awful. (My attempt at the type of commentary they say to make him seem terrible)
@@jonl1319 😂
Problem is with the game on the line, with 10 seconds on the shot clock, Durant can create a better look then Steph can. That’s where Durant has the edge. Steph should almost always pass with game on the line the way he gets swarmed by the defense compared to more physically dominate players. Steph rarely get a clean look on regular shot let alone when the games on the line.
It’s only the media that slanders him, the fans understand how great Curry is.
Because you get guys like this joker in the middle that no matter what Steph does his lack of size and athleticism don’t make him as great or dominant. Even though he didn’t need kd to win and was one win away from two titles in a row without kd (unfortunate circumstances caused them to lose IMO) he was dominating and accomplishing more than anyone and would have continued to score high volume and contested for chips without kd but as much as they “needed” durant, durant needed him more. People just hate to believe that a 6’3” 185 lb light skin guy that can barley dunk can be the best player in the league. Remember when bron missed the playoffs with the lakers? He got all the excuses and still got called the best player in the league and had a better team than Steph does. But when Steph is willing the worst offensive team in the league with him off the court to a playoff berth everyone attacks his greatness and questions it
The media denies steph Curry greatness but is real fans know greatness when we see it
The real ones know he’s better than Lebron too
@@kevo8696 yup. Would’ve beat him two years in a row if the nba didn’t suspend draymond . You can talk stats, resume, etc. won’t matter. Once again, real ones know that if you beat someone you’re just better. Especially 4-1 which would’ve happened considering we had game 5 at home
@@businessprofessional4231 there was also game 7 at home so consider it fair.
@@alijade3521 disagree. Means you don’t know what momentum means also consider the warriors injuries. They needed to win that game 5 desperately. No bogut. Lebron struggles against rim protection which is why they were up 3-1 to begin with my GUY.
@@alijade3521 just accept that history would’ve been written differently. Curry in the goat debate
If he can’t dominate a game what is he doing now?
Scored 47 points vs Toronto in the finals without kd or klay
He took the warriors to the finals 3 times without kd in the western conference
He scored 42 and 53 against bucks and Denver
His beaten every western conference team he played accept phenox
The media hates Steph because his a man off fate and not a man off chaos
Thank you
They are losers. Just cause steph didn't win finals mvp, they think he can't dominate. They are losers. it is fine we can't change them. We know this man will retire a top 10 player all time, just ask kendrick perkins lol.
@@marcioteixeira5489 welcome
@@adimihir facts
@@adimihir top 3 player dude. MJ KAREEM CURRY
Steph scored more points than KD in 3 out of the 4 games in the 2018 Finals. Less than 3 years later people acting like KD carried Steph
I'll still never know how the FMVP didn't go to Steph that yr
@@strawhats100 he had A BAD GAME 3 very bad! And really that game 4 was over and Steph was scoring garbage time while kd was feeding wanting him to get FMVP but ended up getting a triple double.
@@strawhats100 the slander that Steph gets for FMVP is ridiculous. I love Igoudala but even he says so himself, the only reason he's open to have a chance to win the game is because of Steph.
@@strawhats100 steph was great but game 3 killed it for him and it didn't help that KD had an amazing game 3 he has a better case for FMVP in 2015
@@strawhats100 2015 also
Acho is out here spitting hard facts. Great insight my man 🤜🏽
Acho an idiot
@@RumbScroll101 Explain yourself.
KD was the leader during those years. Everybody knows this. Why are people trying to discount KD ? They needed him to take on Lebron. Lebron would have 2 more chips if KD wasn't there.
@@eking5715 Anyone who thinks KD was the leader is an idiot. You can argue who was better, but in no way was KD the leader of that team at any single point of those 3 years. In leadership, he wasn't even near Green or Iggy.
@@practiceyourart was u he in the locker room?
Steph never dominated the game? He’s the only unanimous MVP...? Like? Tf?
When Durant was with the warriors they actually had a higher winning percentage without him that with him... by contrast Curry's presence made the biggest difference in winning percentage in the NBA... 28% ... So yes... Curry is greatly greatly underappreciated...
Someone is doing his homework, thank you!
Those who criticize Curry doesn't watch his games and even if they watched his games, they won't accept what they saw and waiting for the bad night to happen and bring that up in his whole career like all of his games are bad games.
Facts... I always said I personally think bron was more worried about Steph than kd during those years
Also to add to this point teams still double teamed steph when kd was on the team which is why kd had so many open looks in 2017 finals I still have no idea what Cleveland was thinking doing that
@@TheInferno0099 lol facts
Steph is one of the most humble superstars this league has ever seen .. Acho is dead on
KD couldnt even closeout Curry being up 3-1 in a series and didnt even win a title until he joined them.
Here we go again giving all the credit to curry. He couldn’t close out the WARRIORS, not curry. Steph has 31 in game 5, Klay has 27 in game 5. KD has 40 in game 5. In game 6, steph has 31, Klay has 41. KD has 29 in game 6. In game 7, steph has 36 a very monster game. KD has 27, shooting 2% less than steph, but that monster westbrook started ball hogging. All i’m saying is yes Steph is a beast!! But don’t give him all the credit for winning the series, especially when game 6 Klay was one of the biggest comeback moments of all time in a game they almost assuredly were going to lose.
@@magma55100 same applies to kd... he got his championship and finals mvp coz he joined steph and klay...
Esedesszeus Lee He got his championship because he joined the Warriors. Not because of solely Steph and Klay. They definitely had top role players like Iggy, and Dray that also helped them be unbeatable. But what is your comment “same applies to KD” trying to state exactly? My statement was saying don’t give all the credit to Steph in that series. So what is your statement saying?
@@magma55100 I mean the way you play defense on Steph, The teams get amazing looks. Like how many times have you seen Klay doubled team? Steph has been doubled team more than Klay has been doubled teamed in a 1st half of a game. Klay not getting all those looks without Steph
O'Shae Barton Klay isn’t going to get double teamed because he’s not a ball handler, or a high usage player. He either shoots the second he gets the ball, does one dribble pull ups, or occasionally goes for the layup. I don’t think you’ll ever see a shooter get doubled unless they also are a ball handler
It never ceases to amaze me how someone as great as Steph Curry gets so much slander. You will not be able to tell the story of basketball without telling the story of Steph Curry. Rick still thinks he a “Robin” absurd in today’s NBA you can’t win without another star.
I agree look at the top teams
76ers embid simmons
Nets harden kd kyrie
Lakers LeBron ad
Clippers kawaii pg
Denver jokic jamal murray
Bucks giannes jrue holiday kris middleton
Sun's boomer cp3
Celtics tatum brown
Warriors curry that's it klay injured when klay comes back they will be a title contention team u will have wisemen green klay wiggins curry
Bench Poole oubre Lee bazemore looney
steph is top 10 all time, changed the game, created the system, unselfish, loved by teammates, coaches, fans. best role model for kids and greatest shooter ever. just amazed how he can keep doing this night after night. i hope he can get a couple more titles and a finals mvp to shut all these people up. acho keep fighting, i'm with you.
I don’t understand how curry has this much haters, talking that he is not good because he is 6’3, come on it’s easier to say that you don’t like his greatness, that’s it, because one of the greatest players that has ever lived is underappreciated!
We just live in a world where less men Skip & Kellerman and their cohorts get to slander men far greater than them
If Steph Curry gets any kind of foul calls he would be unstoppable. These so called NBA experts are just jealous that he was the first to win unanimous MVP and not LeBron James
Joke is a bunch of them voted for him lol and now regret the impact - it's like they are vex one of them didn't strategically vote for someone else!
I’ve never seen another superstar that is so disrespected by the refs . The man is fouled continuously , and gets a fraction of the calls .
@@derekkeane5152 you've never watched jokic play then lol
No they said it should have been Jordan first then bron...that’s why ... it was mainly that mike wasn’t the first unanimous mvp... which he should have been
@@djones1943 shaq should've won it too. i hate this media members jealous of steph bc of lebron narrative lol, lebron is top 2. media members are mj truthers before all else, they want jordan to be praised more than anything
Acho illustrated his point very clearly and concisely. Such a shame his co-hosts don't know how to listen and are listening only to say something else. I got you, Acho. and I agree.
Never forget, KD came to play with Steph. Not the other way around.
Say it again
Kd is better but the disrespect is beyond me kd was up 3-1 against the warriors why didn’t he close out lool these media guys are clowns
@@GeneralBlaze95 I'm not so sure anymore. I know hes the better 1 v 1 player. I don't know if his style of play leads to more wins than curry
@@gqprince2 It doesn't kd. KD can't carry a roster like steph can. KD has Kyrie and Harden. If you gave KD Steph's current squad, Guarantee Steph does better.
If you can't beat them, join 'em
I often ask, 'How is one player better?" Curry has changed the way the game is played.
Much appreciation for you, Acho! It can’t listen to Ric’s takes- I can’t imagine having to debate w/ that hater!!!
Acho is wrong tho
@@RumbScroll101 Ric was wrong from the moment he said that Steph can't dominate a game like Lebron and KD
@@dnldblmnt whh
He disgust me with his hate.
Stef is a great franchise player as a face but Durant was actually the best player there is a big difference. Just like lebron was the better player with the heat via availability and wade was their franchise player
"people see how great he is and still want to doubt what they are seeing"
Facts
Who?
@@muhammadcushmeer8868 not you
"He can't dominate!"
Maybe that's why teams double and triple team him from 30 feet out on a regular season.
Steph LITERALLY changed how teams play in the NBA. Since he started playing the whole league has changed how they play. Tell me hes not underappreciated!
“Who did they play”
He just dropped 50 on the nuggets...
53 but yeah, another sign how under appreciated he is
And now 49 on the sixers lol dudes are straight casuals lol
@@mookiestewart3776 THE SECOND BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE.
Watch Steph at the end of close games, he gets tripled teamed. Show me one player in NBA history who gets tripled teamed like Steph Curry does at the end of a close game. So underappreciated
That's easy the media doesn't watch the Warriors. They sleeping or watching Lakers. Box score analyst.
@Joe Jackson LOL, not at the same level of gravity. I'm a die hard Kobe fan but Steph's dominance on offense is on another level. He is the ultimate buffing for a team offense.
@Joe Jackson When steph's shot isnt' falling, send me a clip which teams stop doubling him or going over screen to trap him. What do you mean he isn't a factor.
Steph is the only player who teams constantly double or triple team sometimes before crossing half court. It doesn't matter if he shot 0/10 on threes in a game.
He's been carrying offense in high pressure, clutch situations. He is the most closely guarded player with least space to operate this season.
@Joe Jackson even when his shot isn’t falling, to say he isn’t still a factor is blasphemy. His sheer presence alone carries enough weight to warrant a double team, off or on the ball. And even so, he is still attacking and finishing at the rim, without nearly as much foul calls as others get, but still manages to finish. Not even getting into getting others involved and having a knack for rebounding (which is under appreciated), despite his size and being athletically impaired. And as far as “high pressure” situations? He’s been clutch ALL year, even last night against the Celtics, just came up short, but it was his shots that were keeping their heads above water. He IS the offense that carries day in and day out of every single game. When he’s not in the game, they become one of the worst, if not the worst offensive team in the league. And mind you, he is doing all of this with minutes restrictions from coach Kerr.
@Joe Jackson Basketball is a team sports. Simple as that.
They really forgot that curry came back from a 3-1 lead on Okc and Kd 🤦🏽♂️
Fr they Lebron meat riders who think Lebron some god cause he came back against a injured lineup where only dray who got threw out the game and klay were the only actually healthy starters, curry had a bit of a limp, the only rim protector bogut injured, iggy a solid all around player also had back problems but everyone wanna act like the cavs made a 3-1 comeback against a fully healthy juggernaut
Rick thinks Curry is Robin to KD's Batman, but the truth is he's Batman and KD's Superman
Nah, more like Curry is Thor and KD is Ironman
@@ralphcousins4701 NAH donald has it right. Assuming that we agree that Batman will put Superman down if he absolutely needed to. This analogy is actually genius.
Best analogy
This is so accurate bro
Yeah Superman had to change planets to be the best, same with KD
KD won his chips with Curry. Now the nets is loaded with superstars & KD still needs to prove that he can win without Curry. Curry's greatness is changing the game of basketball. He is under-appreciated yes because he is small, not loud, light skinned and yes a very humble and genuinely nice athlete.
Stans are in love with his light skin 🤣🤣🤣🤣. They always got to make up stories about him being hated
When you get injured and your team goes 1-7, it kind of cements your value
He can't dominate a game? But literally has been on a 30 point a game tear consistently
@Joe Jackson that has nothing to do with what he said
@Joe Jackson I'd say they are well past what ppl thought they'd be and should be considered since he's playing with new ppl to the team, rookies and 10day players.
@Joe Jackson curry got hurt when warriors were 7 seed and 4 games above 500 and warriors went 1-7 ever since he been back from missing those games they 6-2 back to 500 and he averaging 40.
Kobe was the first player I watched in the NBA whi Made me try to mimic him but as a small guy I couldnt really do what he was doing, But here comes SC30, a small guy shooting from half court beating big guys, dribbling and shooting as soft as a sponge. SC30's greatest attribute is he makes everyone be like him. A nice guy and a hardworker, Curry is an inspurational player. He inspired me
Yes I agree steph is major league overachiever given his modest size. While LeBron and Durant achieved their fullest potential and that's about it. So to me steph is at the same level of greatness as LeBron and KD. Only person greater than steph is MJ. Like steph MJ is another overachiever, only that MJ overachieving with proper sized and insane athleticism.
Exactly. Media loves to throw all this context to shade Steph's achievements but dude is 6'3". Came into the league at 170lbs. He and Isiah Thomas are two of the best "not obvious" bball dudes ever to play the game. Lebron, Kawhi, Duncan, KD etc were blessed with physical gifts that gave them a leg up.
Mj an overachiever???? Naw lol 😂 Stephen an overachiever probably true because he’s not a great one on one defender
@@Pimping9167 yes MJ was dunking on 7-footer before that was a thing. MJ was a one-man show from college to NBA, he was not the biggest guy out there but he dominated everyone in the league, that's overachieving. Having oversize impact to NBA than your physical gift allowed, that's overachieving. MJ won game with overwhelming competitiveness , beating everyone he faced, that's overachieving. MJ at his peak can beat LeBron or KD 1-on-1, both taller and bigger than MJ, that's overachieving.
Agree! I'm old even to have seen Michael Jordan shot against Patrick Ewing in college. Is college days were great but, his epic 63 points against that HOF stacked Celtic team was a professional tour de force. Nobody saw that coming and he changed culture and the game. Curry has done the same thing. Instead of dunking, Curry has perfected the most necessary skill of his sport-shooting a basketball. Nobody saw someone as slight of frame, who looked like a boy amongst men, literally gas them in every which way imaginable. That's from basically any point on the court. He made height and body type almost obsolete. We knew what the likes of Shaq and LeBron were expected to do. No one saw Steph coming on this level except Coach Mark Jackson and the Warriors during practice. I know LeBron James is starring in Space Jam 2. which is cool. I my book Steph Curry's appeal would have been a better choice. From young girls and boys to women and men globally. Steph Curry is not the "Chosen One", he's the new millennium's Jesus Shuttlesworth 2.0!
Embiid, too he’s a giant among little boys...
Acho was on point with this one
Just look at the warriors record when curry was out vs Kd. Warriors had a losing record when it was only kd on the floor and a winning record when kd was out and only curry on the floor and it wasn’t close.
not only that but they actully had a better record with curry and no kd than when curry and kd where both playing. no disrespect to kd no doubt he was huge part of those 2 tittles but curry was always the best/most important player on those teams
@@bobbygarcia4550 best is far stretch if he was the best then how come KD got the finals MVP back to back. And as for the record that argument is flawed because they never won titles without Durant and if u say 2015, Kyrie and Love wa injured that finals.
@@RumbScroll101 - What's your point. Durant never won titles without Curry.
@@RumbScroll101 Steph Bogut and Iggy injured in 2016 finals so your argument is flawed KD never won a title without steph and only has 1 Finals game win without Steph. Meanwhile Steph has 6 Finals games wins with no KD.
@@maplenerd22 we’ll see about that come July
Curry realized that KD was a pre Madonna head case, and took the initiative as a true leader to do what he could to unsure the team played the best they could be, knowing that Green and Thompson would not of been happy to play lessor roles.. that’s greatness
73-9
Acho owned everyone
I love how they constantly bring up how KD was supposedly the alpha dog in Golden State, he failed miserably in OKC and ran to Steph's team because he couldn't get the job done. Take KD off the Warriors and Steph has 2 MVP awards and a ring, if KD was so much more dominate how come he couldn't even make it back to the finals after losing to Miami?
Exactly curry proved he could still make a finals without KD even in 2019 when kd got hurt and media said gsw not beating houston without kd and CURRY and Gsw went 6-0 str8 to the finals
He was the main scorer in the playoffs but he was never the leader.
We saw Golden state play fine without KD in the playoffs and regular season.
I think they had trouble with the clippers with KD and lost 2 games and when he went down they beat them without losing.
KD
Acho is such a sensible intelligent dude
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2015,2016,2017,2019
he was the best player throughout the playoffs
Lmfaooooo not in 17 15, 16
@@RumbScroll101 he was the best player in the playoffs in 2015,16,18,19, kd was better in 17
@@chxbuka8682 he was hurt in 16 still great but he was clearly hobbled a bit but yeah I mean he has the best regular season record and the best playoff record on top of obviously back to back MVPs and one being unanimous lol he’s a monster dude and the fact that he does it around 6’2 if there were a pound for pound list like MMA or Boxing he might just be the greatest pound for pound player of all time...also I mean forget the warriors record with KD and no Curry being somewhere around .500 and when they had Curry no KD they were like 23-0 LOL I mean the fact that KD JOINED CURRY AFTER HAVING WESTBROOK AND HARDEN AND IBAKA AND ETC. ETC. he had more talent than Steph and yet Steph still won without KD and KD never won without Steph so that argument is stupid to me Curry is clearly the more valuable guy I mean coaches literally said when Kd was on the team that Curry is the guy they lose sleep over trying to game plan for
Bruh...go compare what LeBron did those years and get back at me. You sound ridiculous.
@@chxbuka8682 Just ignoring LeBron’s performances in those years. Lmao
Box Score analyst can't understand Curry's greatness. When you watch game in and out it's undeniable how amazing he is.
Curry triple team in every game and he's not dominating?? wow ...who is that dumb?
If he is that great of a point guard, then he should have 15 assists a game. Remember while he is tripled teamed, 2 of his men are wide open
@@stonedecatur6602 yur assuming that his teammates make everything when steph passes it to them, which they don't. Curry has had to backpack all season.
@@stonedecatur6602 you don't have to average that many assist to be a great pg plus his teammates aren't going to make everything he passes especially when they pass it again to another teammate so he already loses an assist off that
Lol the problem with assists is that they’d have to make the shot which most of the time specially this season GS has not been consistent. Except for who else but Steph 🤷♂️
@@davyjoneslocker4859 he is a great shooting guard.
That’s why Steph is the most impressive. He wasn’t supposed to be a 3x champ or unanimous mvp
@@jimanderson2076 lol as opposed to Steph just being slandered since high school lol no just no. Defying the critics and odds is much harder. Thus why we say. “Defying the odds” because the odds are against you lol
@@jimanderson2076 ya I mean the odds of being a superstar and being successful lol Lebron was the consensus #1 pick his freshman year of high school. Steph didn’t even get recruited. He went to Davidson and scouts said his ceiling was mo Williams. People like you are the reason I made the comment in the fist place. Just becoase you have more critics doesn’t mean it’s harder.... that just means his expectations were higher. He was supposed to be great. Steph wasn’t. So my statement stands.
@@jimanderson2076 sure I agree it’s harder. Significantly less hard with Lebron genes. But still a harder starting point than Steph. Doesn’t mean much to harder path to greatness imo. Steph had to work to get recruited by a college. Lebron was the #1 pick as a high schooler lol
anyways let's just enjoy both of their greatness and not take it for granted while they both still play. Peace. good discussion, i love a civil/rational debate lol
@@white_tyson Tom Brady was a 6th round pick
Im a LeBron guy. Curry won before KD got there. KD hasn’t won anything with out 6’ 3” 180 pounds Curry. Just saying
Bruh they 2015 y’all
Didn’t have Kyrie or Love wtf that was y’all argument. Then y’all
Said if Durant hadn’t join Lebron would have at least to More rings
@@RumbScroll101 - And what has KD done?? He had a stacked OKC team and failed miserably. At the least the Warriors were close till the end with the Cavs. OKC got trashed by the Heat and then lost a 3-1 lead to the Warriors.
@@maplenerd22 stacked okc? team lmaoooo who in that can u say was a star lvl player besides Russ I’ll wait? And wasn’t the heat superteam that stacked playing against 22 year old KD who avg 30PPG on 50% shooting.
@@RumbScroll101 but they won. It happened.
@@RumbScroll101 and Lebron only beat Butler after Dragic and Bam got hurt. Every ring counts.
And the fact that people counted him out TO THE MAXXX...and he comes back and has an MVP season even tho he prolly not gon win it...BUT he had 2 back to back 10+3pm games, he’s been averaging a lil over 30 points, 6 rebounds, like 5 assists, and shooting over 40% from 3 his whole career like it’s crazy that he still has so many more years left in the league
Nick talking about who he scored like that on, well how about him averaging 30 on kd in the wcf elimination games
Lol but first he says he couldn’t dominate a game as soon as he shows him he could he says who was it against 😂😂 he switched the topic so fast 😂😂😂
@@heavyroze176 His 2 best games of the season were against the Blazers and the Nuggets. He had great games against the Clippers, the Jazz and the Bucks etc.. this szn. This fool don't know wtf he talking about.
Ric: "Steph Curry can't dominate."
Me: I direct you to the GSW 15-16 regular season.
They keep rating KDs talent over his team impact. Steph made the Warriors tick.
While together the stats showed that (other than the last Finals) that the team were better statistically and won more with Steph on court than KD.
What was GS record when KD played without Steph? What was their record when Steph played without KD? Oh ok
That argument is so flawed when they didn’t win when KD got injured 2019 and if u say 2015, Kyrie & love was injured leaving LBJ by himself.
@@RumbScroll101 exactly
@@RumbScroll101 more then kd got hurt in 2019...and we going to act like curry didn't suffer a mcl sprain and a elbrow sprain in ghe playoffs of 2016
@@RumbScroll101 2019 klay got injured too who has won without 2 of their top 3 player LeBron couldn't in 15 either
@@ChrisH421 before Klay got hurt they was down 3-1 hope u know.
Just this past year, alot of media were writing him off and this brother still top 5 and he is carrying a team that without him is trash,steph is balling
Their points make sense until you look at the stats and the Warriors were worse when the offense focused around KD than when it free flowed through Steph
I agree. Warriors offense was worse due to isoplays by KD for him to get his numbers.
Acho's the Little Brother who gets ganged up on by his two Older Bros 😂
well we know that those 2 big brothers are closed minded
He’s a straight Baller ⛹️♂️ greatest shooter of all time Steph ain’t got no ego he’s a humble star
lol. I love these guys. Steph is definitely underappreciated by the ham and eggers, but their views only hold so much weight any way.
Curry changed the way basketball is played forever
Steph changed the game like Iverson and Jordan
Jordan
The media is really trying to make curry leave golden state so bad 😭. Curry is one of the most appreciative players today
These are the debates you just love to see. No malice in their words at all just pure discussion and different points of view . Love it and love these guys. Keep up the hard work fellas🙌 one of the best duos on TV and SlickRick that dude💯
It's very much malice and lies in alot of what they are saying
Steph is underappreciated and you forgot to mention that in the 2019 playoffs, Steph completely over shadowed Kd and when Kd got injured he took the warriors to the finals. With Kd in the 2019 playoffs the warriors were 7-4 but without KD they were 6-2 until the raptors dominated a injured warriors squad steph went off and did what he had to do to help his team benefit from it
The most important stat in basketball is how you shoot the ball in the hoop and Steph and considered the best shooter ever he’s foots be easy top 5 all time when he’s done
Idk about top 5
@@Johenz how he’s the best shooter ever the only unanimous MVP and the reason the Warriors won 73 games was not they had some dominant team they had a Dominant player in Steph who stretch the floor and got his guys clean shots
joseph Henry he has so many accolades, it's only comparable to top 5 when he's done ,he's in his prime
@@Motiongawds he’s not in his prime Steph is 33 almost at the end of his career. The highlight of his career already happened. 2x mvp, 3x champion and 73-9. He’s not winning another mvp and teams shoot 3s as good as gs now so it’s not a huge advantage anymore
I gotta go with acho on this one
I can’t wait til next year when klay comes back. Got to remind folks
media wanna earn money talking about steph curry but don't want to appreciate his greatness
Steph made me a basketball ball fan
It’s weird how people are trying to downplay Steph by saying that the Warriors record is not good, but they are still not fully healthy, and without Steph, they wouldn’t even be close to the top 8 in the west. Steph is great and when it’s all set and done, he’ll possibly be in the top 10 greatest players of all time. His resume right now speaks for itself and we done even know how much more time he has left.
Mj is my favorite player of all time but curry is the most feared player that I ever seen
Curry beat kd then kd joined them, curry also won 2 mvps went to two finals and won one, he also broke the 3pt record and game record shooting 50/45/90 Curry is no question better and dominates the game more than Kd.
From a pure skill perspective he is the most talanted offensive player in nba history bar jordan and maybe hakeem, but the more inches you add the better it gets for steph. Imagine a 6'8" stephen curry. Best player in nba history bar none
Facts!!!
Imagine a 7 ft Dame
Without curry kd would not have a ring rn and that’s fax
No FMVPs
@@stonedecatur6602 I bet you praise Lebron for beating a weak heat team with ad lmao. But you’re gonna completely ignore the fact that Steph won by himself in 2015 and was 4 pts away from back to back wins. Most of these other stars in the nba can’t even get out of the second round.
@@3ladeRunner the heat was strong enough to make it to the finals. Steph is a great shooter but he doesn't make his teammates better
OMG!! I wish I would've been able to be on this show! YES STEPH IS BETTER THAN KD!! How do we forget that KD w/ Russell Westbrook had a 3-1 lead against Steph (who wasn't 100% b/c of his MCL injury) came back and "Dominated the game and beat KD. Where was KD when he needed to "Dominate" the game when he blew that 3-1 lead? Steph stepped up and beat KD. Steph can't dominate the game like KD? a 73 win season with a Unanimous MVP would beg to differ, not to mention the fact that Steph dominated the game so much that he literally changed the game of basketball. NOT THE NBA, THE WHOLE GAME OF BASKETBALL!! And yes Steph took a step back and let KD shine b/c that's just how Steph is, that's part of his leadership that says we all can eat and I can still get mine, which he does. If KD was better than Steph how come he couldn't beat Steph when he had a 3-1 leed? How come KD couldn't win back to back finals MVP's in OKC? How come KD couldn't win a unanimous MVP? The real reason Steph let KD shine was to protect KD's ego. KD is a sensitive dude, and while he can score, he can't lead.
we all know that the greatness of curry is enormous
Curry averaged a triple double in th finals but Durant gets MVP? It's a size bias
this man in pink suit is a real deal. He opened many layers.
he is the only player in the entire nba right now who is making all the other players on his team better. There is no other player who does that at this moment .
“Steph has never dominated the game” wow!
Yeah nah he only changed how the game is played today.
That statement proved how under appreciated he is.
Very well said Emmanuel Acho
Durant is a better scorer, better defender, but Steph is better overall player on a team, he leads team, he is a true leader of the team, he never had any teammates said something bad about him, but KD is not, even KD said he never want to be a leader
What that doesn’t make sense. If better than u in all aspect of the game how are u still a better overall player y’all are killing me in the comment section. Idc leader or not u lead by example and KD has done that with his work ethic.
What I'm saying is you can average 50pts and 20 rebs a game, but none of your teammates like you and does not want to follow you that does not make u a good player at all. It's call leadership, it's the heardest part of sports or any group activities.
What makes Steph great is because his game can fit with anyone
That’s a super power
Baby shay sharpe with the suits
This show is underrated.
Slick Rick, was never a like Stephen Curry. I can remember him talking 95.7. Especially when the Warriors trade Ellis .
His light is shining so bright that's the reason that so many anyalist and haters you ever heard the story of David &Goliath the little boy brought down the giant he dominate the game with his shooting
Steph curry wit the rock. He was a pop star. Kd can’t play in an offense, Steph had to let him iso. Kd is the biggest band wagon player ever. Couldn’t do it with russ. Probably wouldn’t be able to do it with harden. If he doesn’t win the chip this year it’s over fa him to a lot of people. Steph Curry wit the rock!
That’s cap! when Klay and Steph was off who did they go to. Why did he take back seat to Durant? He knew with the Durant drive they’ll win. Y’all just hating now
I would have to say Lebron joining Wade,Bosh was more of a bandwagon move. Heat made the playoffs and so did the Raptors that year b4 they all came together. Idc but Curry will never get the credit cause he wasnt suppose to come in and challenge Lebron or KD like he did.
Emmanuel is on point.
About KD vs Steph: a better player, but blew a 3-1 lead to "undominant" Steph at 2016 WCF
Lifelong Dubs fan here. Acho spoke the truth. This was Steph's team before KD got here and (for KD's ego) he decided to take less shots and score less points so that his team could become nigh invincible. It's not about "who's more alpha." It's being mature and having a team-first mentality.
That's not even to speak about how his success has fundamentally changed the way the game is played... 🐐
Same happened with Brady and still does
Totally agree with Orcho!
Steph is the most skilled point guard ever
Long live the indisputable greatest player ever in NBA history; the Lion King ruler of the land Steph Curry!
When Steph is done w/ the 3 who’s catching him?
Dame and Harden
I love this show. I may resub to iptv for these guys.
Acho, can you remind dumb and dumber that Curry won title against LBJ before KD got to GSW. If they think that KD, LBJ and these tall players can dominate the game then they should have more chips than they should have right now....
Kyrie and love got injured. They weren’t beat LBJ in 17 or 18
@@RumbScroll101 exactly...Rick said KD and LBJ can dominate because of their size so didn't he dominate???
@@ballgolfer he did I’ll give u that
Stephen Curry did without doubt take a back seat to Kevin Durant for the sake of the team to make a more cohesive effort for the betterment of the team. That in itself shows a leader that's unheard of to make sacrifices and yet be criticized for not doing enough. He allowed the coach and KD to let KD to take the leading role by having more hands on the ball, passing it to him and passing his own opportunities to shine.
I like the guy in purple 🏀👌
If two pastors decided to talk sports this is exactly what it would look and sound like
Love me some Curry!
Lol bro they beat the nuggets yesterday.