I am dum, I equated shaman and paladin to aggro, when in reality youre pointing out that their "goodstuff" lists are just autopilot high low rolling nonsense and I do agree with that. as a shaman main, I am so sad to see where my class is rn. I have laddered entirely with dragon shaman, been trying to make it catch on, im in diamond seven with it currently, if it makes you feel better there are shamans who DONT play no brain
We just need pupil to randomly give you one of the cards instead of discovering them. Currently it just copies the best spell in your deck so hopefully it fixes that.
Hey Clark! I've been watching you for a year now and I love your content. You are explaining every deck and combos you could play in the video you are making. I am just concerned you might get overwhelmed in the future and end your carrier, because you are explaining over the top and you are giving your hours. I know you want to be the best to get subs and grow your channel. Keep it up! I wish I could help you with donations or something but I am unemployed unfortunetly LOL. You are the best!
Funny how this deck is looking more and more like my original Thanos rogue xD This list does look way more sound that the one you showed before on stream and actually looks like it could be a perfect 30 this time. Also btw sometimes you do pick the poison out of the gift when you want to setup a 24 dmg lethal
How are you able to do this with only 1 Sonya? We don't have Cover Artist. Only thing I can think of is stealing the enemy Sonya but your opponent just loses if they don't bounce Sonya. I think the gift is in there for flexibility. You still can play 4 poisons with 1 gift 1 Sonya, but that's not too insane when compared to Griftah.
@@ClarkHellscream Oh I just meant that you can use the poison to do chip dmg with your weapon if you are only able to play orange gems for 24 dmg. It's not common but it most often happens when you have your pupils and bounce spells but no Sonya. 2 weapon hits with the poison can make for the missing damage
First off, I am not a very good HS player. However, I saw Dane put this deck out pretty early and started trying it asap. At the time, I was being offered the 6 damage card fairly reliably and as the deck became more and more popular, I was offered the 6 dmg card less and less. Nowadays you do not get it until several attempts with Griftah. Blizzard shadowbans cards that are too OP; rather than outright nerfing them if you just change the algorithm a little bit so that the card shows up less often, that is one way they manipulate the game. Second of all, Clark, thank you for doing a deeper dive on this deck and helping thick headed players like me learn cool decks like this!
This may be true. I played against 3 of these decks yesterday and had baddraw so I couldn't clear their board...they summoned griftah 7 times before they finally got the 6 dmg amulet. The deck is disgustingly unfun to play against and it completely breaks hearthstone core values. Its an infinite loop that can take place on turn 5 and it really imo is killing the standard scene. I hope they nerf sonya or implement a nerf which only allows you to ressumon something with sonya a set number of times.
I just found out something interesting as I failed to play this deck. I played Griftah with Sonya and the combo and played him 2-3 times with Sonya on the board and never was offered the 6 damage card. I did this 2x (getting about 4 chances with Griftah) and never was offered the 6 damage card. Then I ran out of resources because I can't do the infinite combo yet but I had Griftah in my hand still. My board was cleared and I dropped him and was given the 6 damage card option. I drew into a breakdance, bounced him back and did it again and got offered the 6 damage card option again. I'm wondering if Sonya is on the board that your chances of getting the 6 damage card drop significantly.
@duncansh81 Thats also very interesting. I fought 2 of these decks b2b yesterday and BOTH played griftah on turn 4 with no sonya on board...and both pulled the 6 dmg on the first try. My final game in diamond, and the guy had sonya on board...and couldn't pull the 6 dmg card so I won 😎
@@yiannos7129 Really? You were offered the 6 dmg card regularly? You didn't find that you were being offered a disproportionate number of times a card like summon 3 legendaries or take control of an enemy minion or reduce cost of cards in your hand by 1? I see those much more frequently than any of the other options.
Griftah is such an essencial card. There are other combos like infinite 8/8s whit the draw giant or just try shit rogue whit weapon attack comboes. Your imagination is the limit. Mixologist can also work but griftah is a lot better.
You can't replace it. I'd probably disenchant wild legendaries, buy a mini set and disenchant legendaries you have from it already and just craft it. But tbh this deck will be nerfed into the ground soon, so I wouldn't even bother.
you can make the deck work with mixologist instead, but if you want to do so then I'd also add a cover artist so that you don't have to actually kill them with the mixologist but just hold them hostage until you can kill with Sonya artist gift. You'd have to change the list a bit to have at least 1 mixologist, 1 CA and 2 gifts. I think the backstabs and the draw 2 for 3 spells can go
@@speedwaifuthetrueandonlybe2744The deck sounds shitty without griftah, but mixologist definitely has a place with his ability to clear boards, freeze and gain armor. I reached legend running x2. Dart throw is also an underrated survivability card and insane with tar slick. Just because the guy won a tournament with a list doesn't mean it's the best possible for ladder. I've won games with my list Vs aggro that I probably wouldn't have if I used the one on the video.
I think they should change Puppil to "cast 5", but first they shadownerfed Grifftah's option for sure. That 6 dmg card doesn't show much often anymore.
I would never play a deck like this... HS has so bad Peformance + animations are so annoying. its sucks to play decks like this.. at its impossble on phone
I don't understand hs specially hs creators when it comes to balance. This card does good its powerful AAAA NERF IT. Ok we nerfed this one card so this other deck now is good AAAAH NO NERF IT, NERF IT NOW. And it feels like blizzard listens to much to us sometimes, yes cards are supposed to be insane and broken but hey thats just me, maybe they are too good i just dont feel like thats the truth 70% of the time
cant wait for nerf 50 times 12 dameg 1 mana combo realy balanced. iam doine 30 dameg turn 6 5 mana skill full game kein wunder das keiner mehr den crap zockt
Cant wait for them to nerf skill based decks while paladin and shaman run free drooling on themselves to legend
I am dum, I equated shaman and paladin to aggro, when in reality youre pointing out that their "goodstuff" lists are just autopilot high low rolling nonsense and I do agree with that. as a shaman main, I am so sad to see where my class is rn.
I have laddered entirely with dragon shaman, been trying to make it catch on, im in diamond seven with it currently, if it makes you feel better there are shamans who DONT play no brain
Nice nerf this skill based playstyle and let de.agros brainless shaman paladins domain nice blizzard
And there was nothing we could do about. Sonya Waterdancer was a made guy and Tidepool Pupil wasn't.
We just need pupil to randomly give you one of the cards instead of discovering them. Currently it just copies the best spell in your deck so hopefully it fixes that.
Tidepool is not a problem as long as every single deck is using it.
Hey Clark!
I've been watching you for a year now and I love your content.
You are explaining every deck and combos you could play in the video you are making. I am just concerned you might get overwhelmed in the future and end your carrier, because you are explaining over the top and you are giving your hours.
I know you want to be the best to get subs and grow your channel. Keep it up!
I wish I could help you with donations or something but I am unemployed unfortunetly LOL.
You are the best!
Funny how this deck is looking more and more like my original Thanos rogue xD This list does look way more sound that the one you showed before on stream and actually looks like it could be a perfect 30 this time. Also btw sometimes you do pick the poison out of the gift when you want to setup a 24 dmg lethal
How are you able to do this with only 1 Sonya? We don't have Cover Artist. Only thing I can think of is stealing the enemy Sonya but your opponent just loses if they don't bounce Sonya. I think the gift is in there for flexibility.
You still can play 4 poisons with 1 gift 1 Sonya, but that's not too insane when compared to Griftah.
@@ClarkHellscream Oh I just meant that you can use the poison to do chip dmg with your weapon if you are only able to play orange gems for 24 dmg. It's not common but it most often happens when you have your pupils and bounce spells but no Sonya. 2 weapon hits with the poison can make for the missing damage
Any suggestions for tar slick replacements?
No you can't survive without it.
commenting and putting the video on loop for my man
Music fits perfect 😂😂
First off, I am not a very good HS player. However, I saw Dane put this deck out pretty early and started trying it asap. At the time, I was being offered the 6 damage card fairly reliably and as the deck became more and more popular, I was offered the 6 dmg card less and less. Nowadays you do not get it until several attempts with Griftah. Blizzard shadowbans cards that are too OP; rather than outright nerfing them if you just change the algorithm a little bit so that the card shows up less often, that is one way they manipulate the game.
Second of all, Clark, thank you for doing a deeper dive on this deck and helping thick headed players like me learn cool decks like this!
This may be true. I played against 3 of these decks yesterday and had baddraw so I couldn't clear their board...they summoned griftah 7 times before they finally got the 6 dmg amulet. The deck is disgustingly unfun to play against and it completely breaks hearthstone core values. Its an infinite loop that can take place on turn 5 and it really imo is killing the standard scene. I hope they nerf sonya or implement a nerf which only allows you to ressumon something with sonya a set number of times.
I just found out something interesting as I failed to play this deck. I played Griftah with Sonya and the combo and played him 2-3 times with Sonya on the board and never was offered the 6 damage card. I did this 2x (getting about 4 chances with Griftah) and never was offered the 6 damage card. Then I ran out of resources because I can't do the infinite combo yet but I had Griftah in my hand still. My board was cleared and I dropped him and was given the 6 damage card option. I drew into a breakdance, bounced him back and did it again and got offered the 6 damage card option again. I'm wondering if Sonya is on the board that your chances of getting the 6 damage card drop significantly.
@duncansh81 Thats also very interesting. I fought 2 of these decks b2b yesterday and BOTH played griftah on turn 4 with no sonya on board...and both pulled the 6 dmg on the first try. My final game in diamond, and the guy had sonya on board...and couldn't pull the 6 dmg card so I won 😎
I played this deck enough to reach legend with it and I can tell you there's no such thing as a shadowban.
@@yiannos7129 Really? You were offered the 6 dmg card regularly? You didn't find that you were being offered a disproportionate number of times a card like summon 3 legendaries or take control of an enemy minion or reduce cost of cards in your hand by 1? I see those much more frequently than any of the other options.
Dont have trusted vendor, any advice what card to put instead ?
Griftah is such an essencial card. There are other combos like infinite 8/8s whit the draw giant or just try shit rogue whit weapon attack comboes. Your imagination is the limit. Mixologist can also work but griftah is a lot better.
its the win condition, no replacement
You can't replace it. I'd probably disenchant wild legendaries, buy a mini set and disenchant legendaries you have from it already and just craft it. But tbh this deck will be nerfed into the ground soon, so I wouldn't even bother.
you can make the deck work with mixologist instead, but if you want to do so then I'd also add a cover artist so that you don't have to actually kill them with the mixologist but just hold them hostage until you can kill with Sonya artist gift. You'd have to change the list a bit to have at least 1 mixologist, 1 CA and 2 gifts. I think the backstabs and the draw 2 for 3 spells can go
@@speedwaifuthetrueandonlybe2744The deck sounds shitty without griftah, but mixologist definitely has a place with his ability to clear boards, freeze and gain armor. I reached legend running x2. Dart throw is also an underrated survivability card and insane with tar slick. Just because the guy won a tournament with a list doesn't mean it's the best possible for ladder. I've won games with my list Vs aggro that I probably wouldn't have if I used the one on the video.
tidepool pupil 3/2 for 2 mana is near next patch
So basically Blizzard took commander silvara, made it 1 mana, and gave it to every class and thought "oh yeah this is fine"
Pupil is more of a shadow of demise for every class
And now this combo doesn't work because tidepool is a 2 cost :c
Finally an HS deck for Yugioh players 😂
Is this a Wild deck?
thnx for deck
I lose a game when I didnt get the 6 damage after 6 trys
I think they should change Puppil to "cast 5", but first they shadownerfed Grifftah's option for sure. That 6 dmg card doesn't show much often anymore.
Lollll good card means too strong 😂😂😂😂😂 nothing wrong with tidepool, the game can have good cards
My man
Mixologist helps, but does half damage
I would never play a deck like this... HS has so bad Peformance + animations are so annoying. its sucks to play decks like this.. at its impossble on phone
These kill from hand decks are so lame to play against, just lost to this shit and felt like it was lost from the very first turn.
Who knew it's gonna be a disgusting rogue deck? :O So surprising man.
THATS THE PROBLEM ABOUT GAMES TODAY, IN GENERAL WTF THIS TURNS ARE, TO MUCH STRONG AND NOT FUN
I don't understand hs specially hs creators when it comes to balance. This card does good its powerful AAAA NERF IT. Ok we nerfed this one card so this other deck now is good AAAAH NO NERF IT, NERF IT NOW. And it feels like blizzard listens to much to us sometimes, yes cards are supposed to be insane and broken but hey thats just me, maybe they are too good i just dont feel like thats the truth 70% of the time
Oooh and I'm not saying Clark does this specific just fiy felt like I had to clarify it
everyone runs dirty rat this deck sucks
nerf shadowstep
Get out 🫴🏼
cant wait for nerf 50 times 12 dameg 1 mana combo realy balanced. iam doine 30 dameg turn 6 5 mana skill full game kein wunder das keiner mehr den crap zockt