Don't you just LOVE how Odette starts off as a kid with a promise of a great personality and, when she grows up, she drops ALL of it and becomes as blank as a new piece of paper? The sequels make it even worse. She's not allowed to do anything that would help her grow as a character. The same goes for her adopted daughter, too.
Yeah, I may love the first movie, but even I admit they really dropped the ball with the characters in their adult lives. And any problems are made tons worse by the sequels. The series needs a reboot. Hopefully so it's done right this time.
The Swam Princess is such a tragedy of a film series. The first tried to be Disney but fell just short (but if a kid grew up on watching the movie it could still be good to them) but then it just went so abysmally bad from there. Producing awful movie after awful movie.
I'm not saying this series is great, but I will say that most of them are decent for a one time watch I guess. But the 4 and 6 are utter garbage. I'd be fine with the series existing if those ones didn't. Honestly 5 would've been a better ending
"It's just that, she's a demon. I can't get her pregnant unless Satan is involved." So a Devil's Threeway? {♫Must Be a Bobsheaux♫} (Sorry, it had to be done…)
During the scene where Elise is to be revealed to be unable to speak, I was thinking "Woah, is this movie actually going to address truama and how it affects children? Is it going to show how recovery is not easy but not impossible?" And then the movie cuts to a pop music montage. Fuck these movies.
Not that I even care about these movies, but for some reason it sort of bothers me that they didn’t just have Odette and Dereck have a child. Like they could have just shoe horned her in there, like (dare I say) the Alpha and Omega movies. And I don’t think child birth would have interfered with her beauty and nothing else, because in a lot of animated movies female characters have children and they look identical to how they looked before pregnancy
The whole character development of Elise is a disgrace. She COULD have been a likeable, if shy and troubled, Honourary Princess with a whole castle of supportive loved ones. Instead, she's used as a vessel for a young girl's fantasy with NOTHING to identify with. They shouldn't have bothered.
@@QJ89 I was kind of hoping she would remain mute through the franchise and that most of her personality would've been communicated through her actions and expressions. Not just whining about wanting to be a "Modern" Princess. Hell, why not have Derek and Odette learn sign language with her as a unique way to understand the grief she might have been going through? That conflict could have been more engaging tbh.
Here’s a question: if Elise has been a poor woodcutter’s daughter her whole life until his death and her being adopted by Oderek, why would she want something else? Why isn’t she grateful for what they’ve given her? I would’ve thought that she would be living the dream. She was pretty poor, it seems, before she hooked up with Oderek. I would have thought that becoming a princess would be the something else she would be dreaming of. I would’ve thought she would be so grateful to Oderek for taking her in and giving her such a rich and comfortable new life she would be willing to undergo “princess training” to become a good ruler as a way of showing her gratitude to Oderek. That’s just a thought that occurred to me.
All right, So a few years later after Odette and Derek died, Elise moved to another kingdom. She went to a festival Dr. Eggman was planning to hijack, then came the Prince Sonic whom was sent by Uberta. Your Turn!
also wow! Sonic 06 is being compared to a lot of other bad things like Teen Titans Go by the awesome 'N Key blade, Norm of the North by Animat's fanbase, Alpha and Omega 5 by Bobsheaux's fans, Kink shaming isn't my fetish by That Kid Douglas, other infamous games like Mega man X7, Super Man 64, E.T., Bubsy 3D, Finding Memo for the GameCube SpongeBob hero pants and Shadow The Hedgehog by a lot of people, Foodfight by a lot of people,one person in the comment section of Animat's Where The Dead Go To Die review compared the film to 06, Phelen compared it with Rapsitte Street Kids and just now people are comparing it the these. Would anyone agree with these comparisons?
You know, after careful consideration, I have determined that people who make children's entertainment don't actually know what pirates are or what they do.
Funnily enough, there was an episode of _South Park_ that deconstructed that, where Cartman and his friends go to Somalia so they can become pirates, thinking it’ll be like in cartoons, sailing the high seas in search of buried treasure, but... yeah, they quickly learn it’s not all it’s cracked up to be.
Technically Elise isn’t a direct descendent of their line, so unless Odette never has children Elise will be either stuck with diplomatic missions or being married off for political reasons. The sea captain training would be just as useful as princess training
Hoverboards? In the swan princess? I remember having the swan princess 2 on VHS and even then at the age of 2+ i knew advanced technology would be out of place. Cant paid writers figure that out?
+Alnisa* Actually, that's where you're wrong. Classic real animation isnt gone. With the rise of CGI, Cutout and the apps that lets you animate at the push of a button. Classic handrawn animation will be in demand since people want to experience the human touch. That is what great AMB have told me. Btw, you know that Aaron Blaise is on youtube, right? The guy behind Brother Bear and even worked on Mulan?
Its such a shame the forbidden arts has been demonstrated capable of being used for good each and every time. Considering it is suppose to be quote unquote "forbidden".
I personally would use it to command stones to be turned into software I can finally use to upload proper artwork, have actual youtube videos, finally join my friends in online gaming, and then I will command a lump of ashes from the fire place to be turned into boxes of chocolate and flowers to apologies to my friends for how long it took to finally join them in online gaming with a reminder that it is only because life had cheated me, but now I have found a way to cheat life back. The note would also mention that now if their are any delusional wishes that they ..... wish.... to have granted I can fix their troubles where in life has cheated them. I will then command the ocean to be replenished with everything over fishing has taken away from it over the millennias to a point that they will be forced to employ more fishermen and lower the price on seafood world wide. Thus ending world hunger. And I will do so by commanding pollution its self to turn into creatures of the sea. I would then make statues from smelted scrap metal in the image of soldiers command them to come to life and send them to reinforce areas where crime is out of control and the police are powerless to stop it. Then I will mix concrete with dirt to form baseball sized man made rocks, and command it to be turned into gold. I will then give it to charity. Note that increasing the amount of gold won't lower its value because the progression of technology would keep it on demand.
Bob you poor thing, suffering though these trashy horribly animated pieces of flith... we appreciate everything you do for us!! Also you write wayyyy better stories!!!
I'd pick the flying squirrels because Russia has no fly squirrels and this was before invasive animals became a real problem. The rats could be explained from them being on ships before the sunk in the ocean.
and the army of rats from the nutcracker the untold story are even worse than them because the rats from tentacolino did have a legitimate reason for hating the atlantans
"Can't have Odette going through labour..." Or, maybe, have Odette or Derek realize one of them is infertile, and having to adopt would be their only option for heirs; it could be a pretty mature but still kid-friendly adventure, where Derek and Odette actually grow. But no, this movie is about warrior squirrels. These movies were already made for kids, but these ones feel like they're made for toddlers.
Pirate of Rock Let me do you one better: Not Peter Mowgli Tarzan is named Lucas, which can lead to more Bestiality if we choose the Pokémon route, or just plain Paedophilia if we choose the Mother 3 route.
+PirateofRock PLEASE don't give Sony any ideas. The last thing I want to see is Sony getting the film rights to Sonic JUST to link it to the Swan Princess.
Why does it have to be the Forbidden Arts? Why can't it just be the devil or a demon and likes causing mischief? And maybe in the Pirate movie, she shows interest in being a sailor and maybe if they had done Bobsheaux's story, that one kid could be the cabin boy who befriends Elise and begins to teach her how to survive on the ship.
In 2016, there might not have been a Pirates of the Caribbean movie in five years... But there *_HAD_* been a Tinkerbell animated film, which was all about pirates where Tinkerbell and her friends became pirates. Or something. Hooray for ripping off barely popular Disney stuff aimed at the same demographic as this movie!
I actually half expected Chef Ramsey to come out in the middle of that Hell's Kitchen parody and scream at the monsters. "This is a good looking dish, but there's one problem with it. YOU CAN'T USE HUMAN MEAT YOU F***ING IDIOTS! IT'S FORWNED UPON IN OUR F***ING SOCIETY!"
You know, when I said that I'd still take the first Swan Princess over Norm of the North, I wasn't joking. I really would rather watch a mediocre wannabe Disney movie than the worst animated movie of 2016... But now, after actually seeing footage of Princess Today, Pirate Tomorrow... I now have to apologize to Norm of the North. At least that movie focused on its main conflict! Man, did the Swan Princess CGI sequels ever lose focus after Royal Family Tale! They make the first movie look Oscar worthy by comparison. How did this franchise go from being a trio of Wannabe Disney movies to a bunch of Wannabe Shrek Movies?
Gertrud Bondesson But the Swan Princess wasn't like that when the first movie was made. It was a Wannabe Disney movie that spawned two sequels that were also wannabe Disney movies... the first cgi Swan Princess movie was released in 2012, heavily uses modern pop culture references as "jokes", when that type of film was slowly dying.
I know, I actually liked the first movie as a kid and the two 2D sequels were OK, but the 3D sequels really feel like they try to rip off Shrek with putting all the pop songs in the movie and adding pointless pop-cultural references. When Shrek did it, it felt new and cool, but now every cheap kid movie does it.
Dave Kendall Well, even then... kids deserve better. Sure the Swan Princess movies can keep kids quiet for a while... but that doesn't mean we movie studios can't try. And bless their hearts, they do try...
Ya know about that green thing, if they really had to make John Bob (how 2 spell French namez xddd) be worshipped by the animals and then they stop, they could've made it better. They worship green thing and that gets into Bob's head and he forgets about his friends. But when he sees them about to cook Rogers, he says that he doesn't want to be worshipped by his friend's devourer. That makes the monsters angry and they decide to eat Bob if they can't worship him THERE YOU GO CREST ANIMATION A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL CAME UP WITH BETTER WAYS FOR UR MOVIES TO SUCCES. FIRST ALPHA AND OMEGA BY SUGGESTING THE MAIN LEADS BE LILLY AND GARTH AND NOW I FIXED THIS SCENE *THIS WORLD IS UNFAIR*
I remember my sister and I thought it’d be a great idea to watch the pirate one, thinking it would be a “So bad, it’s good” kind of movie. We felt brain dead about halfway through.
The idea of Odette being replaced by a demon, or becoming a demon could have made for a great new story arc. Let's say the demon really wanted to do good, but had trouble adjusting.
what about the kid's past even made her want to become a pirate in the first place of all things...she was the daughter of some wood cutter and she probably never saw the sea before...of all the things she could desire to be, why a pirate....it would be one thing if she just wanted to sail the seas but...I'm giving too much thought to a blank slate mary sue...pirates are just cool I guess...those Russian pirates we hear so much about
@@Sean_Bird I personally don't mind if Sonic falls in love with a human woman. I mean, lot's of anthropomorphic male characters with human love interests. For example the Ninja turtles have had a number of human love interests like Michelangelo with Renet the timestress and Donatello with April in the 2012 series Leonardo with Karai in the 2003 series.
Technically Bob, they did mention in passing Elise was staying with them for months. Although I agree it's a little early for her to be calling "Odette" mommy.
@@EmilyTheManx yeah. Ripping off a song from a flick full of ripoffs (Kaylee ripping off Belle, the ogre ripping off the rockbitter from Neverending Story
@@dimitriwarchief301 oh they are pretty much the same. And to top it off, she doesn't have a character. And there's the fact that there are clear signs of studio meddling
Why are Odette and Derek so creepy? Everyone else aren't great but the look like animated Barbie and Ken dolls, maybe if they were a little more cartoony, maybe if their eyes were a little bigger.....
The Dark Arts in this movie for some reason is a sentient primal force instead of you know a magical art created by evil mages...why? The big bad could’ve it been oh I don’t know some ancient Russian fae from Russian folklore that woke up after a 400 year slumber and had a very xenophobic attitude towards humans. The Darkness from the comics and video games is a more intimidating primal force, and it killed Moses and ate his heart for shits and giggles.
Why would they give Derek a Sleeping Potion? Wouldn't it not make more sense if they gave him a potion that only replicates death like in Romeo & Juliet? I mean if he is sleeping, he still has a pulse. Idiots.
Oh my, that "pirate princess Elise" character is so annoying... One of the worst kid characters I've seen. And why did they declare some random orphan kid as a heir to the throne? That's not how monarchy works, not even in fairy tales. And how big is Derak and Odette's kingdom anyway? From these movies it looks like all they have is only one castle and one village near it. They don't even have an army and are forced to use fucking flying squirrels instead. The first three movies at least had some little charm and were decently animated.
Legally an adopted child cannot inherent the throne so if anything Derek and Odette are being dicks raising this kid like a princess because she’ll eventually have that royal life taken from her and she won’t be prepared for the outside world
Have we ever actually seen them dealing with politics they probably aren’t even aware of it and Ellise is in for a nasty surprise once they die the next time the forbidden arts show up
She spends her time tango dancing, yelling at people about her birthday, cockblocking Rodgers and training Elise to be a princess not through diplomacy and how to rule properly but by having tea parties and wearing a sports bra do you seriously trust her to change the law on her own
1. If she divorced a husband then he’d have no control over the kingdom any royal status would be stripped from him (plus divorce would be illegal at this point in history) 2. Yes it’s possible they could be good royals but it’s a movie show don’t tell
30:50 I'll repeat what I asked in your Swan Princess Christmas review: how can you be so sure this movie is set in 19th century Russia? Yes, Swan Lake was written by a Russian composer in the 19th century, but that doesn't mean that's where this movie is set. That would be like if I said Game of Thrones was set in America in the mid 90's.
DeepEye1994 Now that you mention it, it'd fit right in at Five Nights at Freddys, and I couldn't agree more about your point about 2D vs 3D. With 2D, you can do really cheap animation and still have it look decent, even the worst 2D animated kid's movies like Dingo pictures just look like mediocre kid drawings, but with 3D, anything not done by experts will look like nightmare fuel, and even Disney messed up the character designs in Frozen. Anna/Elsa look ok in the 2D artwork, but in the film, their giant eyes and weird baby heads just looked creepy to me.
Has anyone else noticed how this series cannot decide on what time period it is set in? The first looked like it took place in Medieval times, but now it seems to take place in the 17th or 19th century (That is most evident in the Christmas Special)??? This has more concerning problems than this, but I figured I'd mention it. Also at 15:04, I could have sworn the tune was ripped from Les Miserables, notably Gavroche's portion of "Look Down (The Paris: 1832 Reprise)". Talent-less hacks.
Detective Scheper I couldn't agree more, though being indecisive about time periods is a problem in a few Disney movies too, such as the royal guards in Tangled wearing Napoleonic uniforms while the robbers all wear viking helmets and Rapunzel has a frigging Chameleon as a pet. I'd love to see more animated films actually dare to do some research and actually stick to a specific historical time period for once, instead of just sticking the heroine in a modern prom dress and add in pointless pop-cultural references just to appeal to kids more.
It’s one crystal ball containing the forbidden arts, that transformed into an evil spirit that knows the powers of the forbidden arts, so It still can be singular, even if it's pluralized. Also when Odette said „We’re up against the forbidden arts once again”, i don’t think she meant the same villain throughout all those movies, but that dark magic used by Rothbart, this time used by a tribe of squirrells. They were fighting that dark magic itself, AND the people who used it and got corrupted. Also „Scullions” is probably just the name of one of many tribes of those flying squirrels, just like a team of basketball players are called the Mavericks instead of „People”. There were probably many squirrels, but this one tribe called itself „Scullions”. At least that’s what i can gather.
Yo ho yo ho a critic's life for me! We bwindle the movies and swindle the schmucks popcorn me hearties yo ho! We nitpick the story that gives no two F%&#S drink up the soda yo ho!
Does anyone wish that there were more reviews on TV media? Like more reviews on Barney videos and hopefully a show that has never been reviewed before on UA-cam?
15:47. Oh my god. That's horrendous. The original transformation scene was actually a very nicely animated scene, and seeing the 3D version is such... a *mockery* of something that I actually loved from the original movie. Why
Elise should probably be more grateful for her princess title and being adopted by the unrealistically nice royalty, considering she, you know, came from a family of wood cutters?
Agreed. After all, Derek and Odette didn't kill her parents and destroy her village, only keeping her alive so that she could tell them where the village's secret treasure was kept.
Been rewatching these Swan Princess videos lately and I have good memories of watching them (the reviews, not the films themselves) back when they were new, I was 19 years old and going through a bad time in my life with school but I like to think these helped make me feel better back then.
Just because those ashes were the remains of equipment to create the Forbidden Arts, that doesn’t mean that Odette is a demon. Maybe Derek’s love for Odette and the fire he used, were able to purge the evil from the ashes and bring the pure and good Odette back to life. At least that’s my theory.
Oh boy. This movie got Sleeping Beauty Remake Syndrome. In trying to make female characters look stronger and better all the male characters inexplicably become stupid, weak or evil. I still love that speech you did for Stefan in Maleficent.
I feel kinda bad for the Forbidden Arts, Imagine if you were born and all your life you were forbidden just because you existed! And also, to make matters worse, you have to live with the fact that no matter what you do, you're gonna be killed by some princess in a couple years! I'd be pretty upset as well! Plus it seems like he has a bit of an identity crisis with how many times he changed throughout this movie! So basically this is about a perfect princess murdering a poor, old, mentally unwell force of nature that was shunned by all just for his existence.
What Scully should've said was "As my uncle used to say no, something. I know it starts with an F I just can't remember what it is" Then Puffin would say "I can answer that, No..." Jeanbob stops saying "Please don't"
Why does the song by "Lucas" remind me of Garret from Warner Bro's "Quest of Camelot"? It seemed like they stripped some lyrics from that song he sang when he departed from Kaylie
Oh boy that kraken scene... 1: electric eels live in rivers, not the ocean... 2: they do not fire lightning bolts, electricity is invisible under water. Also, not at that range.
you know what would have really helped make this movie(or at least the royal child subplot) far more interesting? Make the kid actually mute, and show the difficulty Odderek have initially interacting with her because of the combination of trauma and being mute. Show the steps of them going through and learning/developing sign language so they can fluently communicate with her, all while she remains emotionally distant at the two near-strangers who are now her caregivers and guardians. Also give her and Odette some quiet time where Odette can relate the story of her own father's death, giving the two space to talk about it. Maybe have the pair captured at one point, allowing them the quiet scene mentioned before, followed by their attempted escape. Cap it off with Odette seemingly sacrificing herself for the girl, and then a scene or two later, the girl shows up out of nowhere to do something simple to save Odette(cutting a rope, knocking out a guard with a big stick, etc) Another option to tie into her mute-ness would be for her to rush to the castle, showing up quite bedraggled because of her haste, with torn clothes and all, trying to get someone to understand her to go save Odette. Finally Derrik shows up and gets her to calm down and sign what she's trying to say, which allows him to quickly gather the guard and go save Odette. Maybe leading into a battle scene where they can't get to Odette because the squirrels are holding them off, which allows the girl to circle around off screen to do the simple saving mentioned above.
Thank you for putting this up and making me laugh. Not to mention your idea at 47:45 is completely Effing brilliant, that would be a much better movie. And I would like to share an idea for the Swan Princess 5; replace the scene where the magic rock is warning Odette and instead show Odette actually saving Jojo the flying Squirrels, later when Odette tries to save Derek but gets shot on sight with one of the poison darts. As the poison slowly kills her, Jojo tries to give her the antidote but Mangler shoot Jojo. So Odette give antidote to Jojo, seeing this cause the other flying Squirrels to realize that the Swan Princess isn't evil.
Also, when Elise is singing her song, when you mention the flag, the sails aren't down in any of the shots, yet the boat is sailing far out at a decent pace but the sea is calm. OH! And the masts. One falls over in the storm, but when they crash into the island, they're all up and standing.
12:34 Tell me about it! If I were in her shoes, I'd channel my inner emo, and lock myself in my room all day. Or at the very least be freaked out of my mind that I lost my father, and am now receiving special treatment from Odette and the castle staff! KID? WHY ARE YOU SMILING! YOUR DAD WAS KILLED IN A FIRE YESTERDAY! I seriously doubt a child can get over the death of a parent, IN ONE DAY. LET ALONE IN ONE MUSICAL NUMBER!!
*rubs temples* Oh geez, fuck that retcon in the fifth movie. I recall screaming so hard at the screen when I first saw it that I actually gave myself a migraine. Who the hell would write such an asinine-*googles* YURI LOWENTHAL?! WHY, YURI, WHY?!?! Dx
+Minespatch *PRETENDS TO BREAK COPIES OF SOUL CALIBUR 5 & FIRE EMBLEM FATES ON CAMERA* (He played Patrokalas in the former and is one of the voices for the male avatar Corrin in the latter)
So I'm guessing that vines in trees are more or like the railing kills from Space Mutiny? And honestly, Odette and Derek are perhaps the worst royal couple put to film and I mean that in a sense that they're a couple we're SUPPOSED to like rather than being an actual EVIL couple. These two really have no character nor do they have any chemistry together. Even as a kid I couldn't be damned in caring about either one of them because there really isn't anything to them. Say what you will about the Disney Princesses but even for the most calm of the bunch there is a character there. Something there to make them memorable and marketable. You could say that Odette has the swan motif but they dropped that in the last movie so what makes her the swan princess? What makes her so special that we should care about her? I swear to god, all the characters in this movie series are more or less stock characters used in order to give examples of an archetype, not what the final character SHOULD be. And as I said, Disney had the balls to show that Areal got knocked up and popped out a kid but Odette can't? HONESTLY? They had to kill someone else in order to give these chuckleheads a kid. NOOOOOOOOOICE.
@@Swordsmen99 YES At least KateHumph was already shown to be cliche from the start and as the movies went on, we get used to how bland they are even as parents. Derek and Odette were so CRAFTED to be a Disney Couple (tm) that its SHOCKING how awful they are and they only get worse as the movies goes on.
Fun fact!
Pink Camo is acceptable for hunting purposes, since deer cannot see pink.
Though in this context, it's stupid and not sneaky
Don't you just LOVE how Odette starts off as a kid with a promise of a great personality and, when she grows up, she drops ALL of it and becomes as blank as a new piece of paper? The sequels make it even worse. She's not allowed to do anything that would help her grow as a character. The same goes for her adopted daughter, too.
Now that's ACTUALLY sexist, why isn't BuzzFeed complaining about this?
DeltaDragonoid225 because Buzzfeed is stupid
Yeah, I may love the first movie, but even I admit they really dropped the ball with the characters in their adult lives. And any problems are made tons worse by the sequels. The series needs a reboot. Hopefully so it's done right this time.
@Amethyst Farah a girl (mostly fictional) with not a single flaw in sight. Sorry it took so long to reply.
And the fact that Odette is a demon now
Once again, Bob's idea is 1000x better than the actual movie
The Swam Princess is such a tragedy of a film series. The first tried to be Disney but fell just short (but if a kid grew up on watching the movie it could still be good to them) but then it just went so abysmally bad from there. Producing awful movie after awful movie.
I'm not saying this series is great, but I will say that most of them are decent for a one time watch I guess. But the 4 and 6 are utter garbage. I'd be fine with the series existing if those ones didn't. Honestly 5 would've been a better ending
I demand a Swan Princess/Alpha and Omega crossover! I'll never watch it, I just want to see Bob writhe in pain reviewing it!
googamp32 You evil s***!
googamp32 oh gawd noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! ,please for the love gawd just no
If that movie actually becomes a thing I would not be surprised.
Everyone dies, the end
YOU EVIL GENIUS!
"It's just that, she's a demon. I can't get her pregnant unless Satan is involved."
So a Devil's Threeway?
{♫Must Be a Bobsheaux♫}
(Sorry, it had to be done…)
A WHAT?
@@LaineMann it's like the DEVILS TANGO but with one more person lol
During the scene where Elise is to be revealed to be unable to speak, I was thinking "Woah, is this movie actually going to address truama and how it affects children? Is it going to show how recovery is not easy but not impossible?"
And then the movie cuts to a pop music montage. Fuck these movies.
Eleven she ain’t
Not that I even care about these movies, but for some reason it sort of bothers me that they didn’t just have Odette and Dereck have a child. Like they could have just shoe horned her in there, like (dare I say) the Alpha and Omega movies. And I don’t think child birth would have interfered with her beauty and nothing else, because in a lot of animated movies female characters have children and they look identical to how they looked before pregnancy
The whole character development of Elise is a disgrace. She COULD have been a likeable, if shy and troubled, Honourary Princess with a whole castle of supportive loved ones.
Instead, she's used as a vessel for a young girl's fantasy with NOTHING to identify with. They shouldn't have bothered.
@@QJ89 To be honest, they should have bothered with ANY of these sequels...and the same goes for "Alpha & Omega" too.
@@QJ89 I was kind of hoping she would remain mute through the franchise and that most of her personality would've been communicated through her actions and expressions. Not just whining about wanting to be a "Modern" Princess.
Hell, why not have Derek and Odette learn sign language with her as a unique way to understand the grief she might have been going through? That conflict could have been more engaging tbh.
Here’s a question: if Elise has been a poor woodcutter’s daughter her whole life until his death and her being adopted by Oderek, why would she want something else? Why isn’t she grateful for what they’ve given her? I would’ve thought that she would be living the dream. She was pretty poor, it seems, before she hooked up with Oderek. I would have thought that becoming a princess would be the something else she would be dreaming of. I would’ve thought she would be so grateful to Oderek for taking her in and giving her such a rich and comfortable new life she would be willing to undergo “princess training” to become a good ruler as a way of showing her gratitude to Oderek. That’s just a thought that occurred to me.
Elise was chosen as a princess, huh?
Does she end up falling in love with a blue hedgehog later on in her life?
Let's make it into a theory.
Luke Perkins
That's exactly what I was thinking.
All right, So a few years later after Odette and Derek died, Elise moved to another kingdom. She went to a festival Dr. Eggman was planning to hijack, then came the Prince Sonic whom was sent by Uberta.
Your Turn!
the cutscenes in that game are definitely able to this reviewer's material.
also wow! Sonic 06 is being compared to a lot of other bad things like Teen Titans Go by the awesome 'N Key blade, Norm of the North by Animat's fanbase, Alpha and Omega 5 by Bobsheaux's fans, Kink shaming isn't my fetish by That Kid Douglas, other infamous games like Mega man X7, Super Man 64, E.T., Bubsy 3D, Finding Memo for the GameCube SpongeBob hero pants and Shadow The Hedgehog by a lot of people, Foodfight by a lot of people,one person in the comment section of Animat's Where The Dead Go To Die review compared the film to 06, Phelen compared it with Rapsitte Street Kids and just now people are comparing it the these. Would anyone agree with these comparisons?
You know, after careful consideration, I have determined that people who make children's entertainment don't actually know what pirates are or what they do.
Same thing goes for spies
I’ve watch Fate/Zero. You’re not wrong
Funnily enough, there was an episode of _South Park_ that deconstructed that, where Cartman and his friends go to Somalia so they can become pirates, thinking it’ll be like in cartoons, sailing the high seas in search of buried treasure, but... yeah, they quickly learn it’s not all it’s cracked up to be.
The same thing can be said for ninjas too.
Technically Elise isn’t a direct descendent of their line, so unless Odette never has children Elise will be either stuck with diplomatic missions or being married off for political reasons. The sea captain training would be just as useful as princess training
Or she’ll be kicked out of the castle after there’s no leader because Derek and Odette forgot that adopted children can’t carry royal lineage
I wouldn't say she'll be kicked out . The marriage option is more likely.
Maybe the Forbidden Arts should've spent its time making an army of bears, or something remotely threatening
Ghostwriter
SWAN PRINCESS INTERRUPTING ARMY OF BEARS!
Ghostwriter no, "I'm travel size for your convenience" Mushu from mulan
+Tommy Deonauth's Archives That's why they call us an Army of Bay-ahs.
Time for “[an army] of disappearing bears”: ua-cam.com/video/zp1SPJ7YIWc/v-deo.html
An army of wolf pups.
Hoverboards? In the swan princess? I remember having the swan princess 2 on VHS and even then at the age of 2+ i knew advanced technology would be out of place. Cant paid writers figure that out?
*+Alnisa* Where has the world gone to? Remember when Aladdin was new? Or when they made fun shows on Cartoonnetwork?
+Alnisa* Actually, that's where you're wrong. Classic real animation isnt gone. With the rise of CGI, Cutout and the apps that lets you animate at the push of a button. Classic handrawn animation will be in demand since people want to experience the human touch. That is what great AMB have told me.
Btw, you know that Aaron Blaise is on youtube, right? The guy behind Brother Bear and even worked on Mulan?
Nah, he is the Forbidden Art
Short for Forbidden Arthur
He'll never eat lunch in this town again
Nathan Is a Mouse he's not from this town
It's a reference to a meme from the PBS cartoon series "Arthur", specifically the episode guest-starring Matt Damon.
jbiehlable r/wooshed
It's Trying To Be Like Sauron
Its such a shame the forbidden arts has been demonstrated capable of being used for good each and every time. Considering it is suppose to be quote unquote "forbidden".
I personally would use it to command stones to be turned into software I can finally use to upload proper artwork, have actual youtube videos, finally join my friends in online gaming, and then I will command a lump of ashes from the fire place to be turned into boxes of chocolate and flowers to apologies to my friends for how long it took to finally join them in online gaming with a reminder that it is only because life had cheated me, but now I have found a way to cheat life back.
The note would also mention that now if their are any delusional wishes that they ..... wish.... to have granted I can fix their troubles where in life has cheated them.
I will then command the ocean to be replenished with everything over fishing has taken away from it over the millennias to a point that they will be forced to employ more fishermen and lower the price on seafood world wide. Thus ending world hunger. And I will do so by commanding pollution its self to turn into creatures of the sea.
I would then make statues from smelted scrap metal in the image of soldiers command them to come to life and send them to reinforce areas where crime is out of control and the police are powerless to stop it.
Then I will mix concrete with dirt to form baseball sized man made rocks, and command it to be turned into gold. I will then give it to charity. Note that increasing the amount of gold won't lower its value because the progression of technology would keep it on demand.
Bob you poor thing, suffering though these trashy horribly animated pieces of flith... we appreciate everything you do for us!!
Also you write wayyyy better stories!!!
Which is worse, the army of squirrels in The Swan Princess or the army of rats from Tentacoolino.
The army of rats from Tentacolino.
I'd pick the army of rats as the worse of the 2.
I'd pick the flying squirrels because Russia has no fly squirrels and this was before invasive animals became a real problem. The rats could be explained from them being on ships before the sunk in the ocean.
I wanna see a death battle between the Squirrel army from Swan Princess and the rats from Tentacoolino now...
and the army of rats from the nutcracker the untold story are even worse than them because the rats from tentacolino did have a legitimate reason for hating the atlantans
Oh god, these are horrid. This CG is atrocious. The plots are idiotic, but at least the original movie's animation looked nicer!
ashlin treadway I know. Odette looks like a Plastic Surgery Nightmare and Alise/Elise looks like Sofia the First as a Teenager
The original movie's animation kinda reminds me of a bit of Don Bluth.
But hey, CG is cheaper
Hell the first one also had a few legit funny jokes.
"Can't have Odette going through labour..."
Or, maybe, have Odette or Derek realize one of them is infertile, and having to adopt would be their only option for heirs; it could be a pretty mature but still kid-friendly adventure, where Derek and Odette actually grow. But no, this movie is about warrior squirrels. These movies were already made for kids, but these ones feel like they're made for toddlers.
Even then if they adopt Elise can’t legally get the crown which is really messed up
Wouldn't say they couldn't. They just would have to fight for it.
His uncle's catchphrase was "good morning". So...Uncle Grandpa?
mvangord1 yes
wait... "Princess Elise"... so this whole series is the origin story of the kingdom of Soleanna?
Oh god I hope not
Pirate of Rock Let me do you one better: Not Peter Mowgli Tarzan is named Lucas, which can lead to more Bestiality if we choose the Pokémon route, or just plain Paedophilia if we choose the Mother 3 route.
Pirate of Rock oh! Sonic ‘06 reference 😆
Pirate of Rock and Elise falls in love with a blue hedgehog and revives him by kissing him ,also nice sonic reference
+PirateofRock PLEASE don't give Sony any ideas. The last thing I want to see is Sony getting the film rights to Sonic JUST to link it to the Swan Princess.
Why does it have to be the Forbidden Arts? Why can't it just be the devil or a demon and likes causing mischief? And maybe in the Pirate movie, she shows interest in being a sailor and maybe if they had done Bobsheaux's story, that one kid could be the cabin boy who befriends Elise and begins to teach her how to survive on the ship.
Ally Gator Animator Or they thought it made too much sense within the story.
First of all thank you, and that actually makes a lot of sense. Too bad the writers' breakfast is glue.
Rachel Johnson And on something too.
@@alicialockwood4641 Thanks.
In 2016, there might not have been a Pirates of the Caribbean movie in five years... But there *_HAD_* been a Tinkerbell animated film, which was all about pirates where Tinkerbell and her friends became pirates. Or something.
Hooray for ripping off barely popular Disney stuff aimed at the same demographic as this movie!
They seem more like Sophia the First ripoffs to me.
Don't worry, we got a new Pirates movie
Artpholomule Nutt This brings up the question:
Is it a ripoff if you steal your own ideas?
Well technically they were attempting to rescue there pixie dust from pirates , who were captain hooks old crew
At lest Tinkerbell And The Pirate Fairy had an interesting plot and characters, plus pretty damn good animation.
I actually half expected Chef Ramsey to come out in the middle of that Hell's Kitchen parody and scream at the monsters.
"This is a good looking dish, but there's one problem with it. YOU CAN'T USE HUMAN MEAT YOU F***ING IDIOTS! IT'S FORWNED UPON IN OUR F***ING SOCIETY!"
stlouisrocker100 *frowned
Typos happen. Just show's that I neglect to proofread.
stlouisrocker100 Sorry, bad grammar is one of my pet peeves, I should probably stop correcting people.
stlouisrocker100 IT’S BLOODY RAW!!!
+stlouisrocker100 And then disappear never to be mentioned again. Complete with Jean bab literally calling it a big lipped alligator moment.
Bob Dylan is the one true Swan Princess.
Moonbeam, he didn't even turn into a swan during these two movies. So, how can he be called the Swan Princess? lol
lol
You know, when I said that I'd still take the first Swan Princess over Norm of the North, I wasn't joking. I really would rather watch a mediocre wannabe Disney movie than the worst animated movie of 2016...
But now, after actually seeing footage of Princess Today, Pirate Tomorrow... I now have to apologize to Norm of the North. At least that movie focused on its main conflict! Man, did the Swan Princess CGI sequels ever lose focus after Royal Family Tale! They make the first movie look Oscar worthy by comparison. How did this franchise go from being a trio of Wannabe Disney movies to a bunch of Wannabe Shrek Movies?
I'd say that nearly all bad kid's movies loosely based on fairy tales are trying to rip off Shrek.
Gertrud Bondesson But the Swan Princess wasn't like that when the first movie was made. It was a Wannabe Disney movie that spawned two sequels that were also wannabe Disney movies... the first cgi Swan Princess movie was released in 2012, heavily uses modern pop culture references as "jokes", when that type of film was slowly dying.
I know, I actually liked the first movie as a kid and the two 2D sequels were OK, but the 3D sequels really feel like they try to rip off Shrek with putting all the pop songs in the movie and adding pointless pop-cultural references. When Shrek did it, it felt new and cool, but now every cheap kid movie does it.
Dave Kendall Well, I wish there more good kinds of these movies than bad ones. That too much to ask?
Dave Kendall Well, even then... kids deserve better. Sure the Swan Princess movies can keep kids quiet for a while... but that doesn't mean we movie studios can't try. And bless their hearts, they do try...
Er did the frog’s voice get worse? Also I like the Odette is a demon theory😂 I can do so much with that
Gracekim1 A *phoenix* demon!
Tommy Deonauth's Archives that’s what I meant
Alnisa yeah, if I wanted to I could fix the movie in story form😅
Gracekim1 Yeah, I feel like the frog's accent is getting worse and worse.
Well, one of the 72 demons of the Ars Goetia is named Phoenix...
So if she was a demon or is a demon. Won't that mean that the black orb is the good guy now.
no; it's just that two evil beings don't work well together.
Berry Pink I guess
The squirrels are animated better than Odette wtf
Ya know about that green thing, if they really had to make John Bob (how 2 spell French namez xddd) be worshipped by the animals and then they stop, they could've made it better. They worship green thing and that gets into Bob's head and he forgets about his friends. But when he sees them about to cook Rogers, he says that he doesn't want to be worshipped by his friend's devourer. That makes the monsters angry and they decide to eat Bob if they can't worship him
THERE YOU GO CREST ANIMATION A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL CAME UP WITH BETTER WAYS FOR UR MOVIES TO SUCCES. FIRST ALPHA AND OMEGA BY SUGGESTING THE MAIN LEADS BE LILLY AND GARTH AND NOW I FIXED THIS SCENE
*THIS WORLD IS UNFAIR*
Also, I think Lucas' song was more ripping off Quest for Camelot.
I remember my sister and I thought it’d be a great idea to watch the pirate one, thinking it would be a “So bad, it’s good” kind of movie.
We felt brain dead about halfway through.
You should do the Open Season franchise. The sequels are in Alpha and Omega sequels of bad.
Sean Bateman I thought there’s was only one sequel
Oh please no, don't ask him that! I watched the first one as a teenager, and it was just awful.
On the bright side, the first film is actually good
Gracekim1 There's three sequels:
Open Season 2
Open Season 3
Open Season: Scared Silly
and there is more Air Buddies films and Air Bud films as well.
i made another account just to sub for that voice you did for bob dylan
He should make a second channel where he does all of his reviews in that voice and call it Bob Dylansheaux.
The idea of Odette being replaced by a demon, or becoming a demon could have made for a great new story arc. Let's say the demon really wanted to do good, but had trouble adjusting.
They made even more of these?! XD omg!
Is there a part 8?
Diego Hernandez 2.0 I looked it up. The Secret Of Kells is a way much better movie than Swan Princess 8.
At this point I'm not surprised.
SailorJenova Why are you XD-ing at that?
Yes to be the new Alpha and Omega!
Who actually watches these films to make the studio green light more sequels .😡
powerstar 2028 It is probable that films were originally popular because of Odette's original voice actor.
Maybe it’s a uva boll situation and the movies are tax deductible
Jack Sullivan that actually would make alot of sense.
Nathaniel Foga Dumb parents looking to recapture their nostalgia?
Nathaniel Foga you just want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes?
You're comparing Lucas's song to Let It Go? Really, Bob?? Garret from Quest for Camelot would like to have words.
It's definitely an "I Stand Alone' clone.
I know right? That's exactly what I was thinking!
Hey that's an insult to Neil Patrick Harris!
what about the kid's past even made her want to become a pirate in the first place of all things...she was the daughter of some wood cutter and she probably never saw the sea before...of all the things she could desire to be, why a pirate....it would be one thing if she just wanted to sail the seas but...I'm giving too much thought to a blank slate mary sue...pirates are just cool I guess...those Russian pirates we hear so much about
"You have beautiful hair... You will be the perfect new host for my essence"
I like your profile picture.
Princess Elise? Will she get captured by Dr. Eggman? Will her tears call forth Iblis?
The second he said Princess Elise, I immediately thought of the character from Sonic! 😆
We'll all be fine as long as she doesn't kiss a hedgehog.
@@Sean_Bird
I personally don't mind if Sonic falls in love with a human woman. I mean, lot's of anthropomorphic male characters with human love interests. For example the Ninja turtles have had a number of human love interests like Michelangelo with Renet the timestress and Donatello with April in the 2012 series Leonardo with Karai in the 2003 series.
@@legoking6165 It's alright man, it was just a joke.
@@Sean_Bird
Okay.
Technically Bob, they did mention in passing Elise was staying with them for months. Although I agree it's a little early for her to be calling "Odette" mommy.
It could’ve worked if she had nobody looking after her before she was adopted but giving her a loving parent makes it stupid and unrealistic
Well that, and she's like 9. She's way too old for that anyway
Depends on your mindset really some adults still call their parents that
@@LaineMann Some kids call their moms "mommy" I still do at my age
45:56 Actually, I think that's "I Stand Alone" from Quest for Camelot.
Yep.
Why is called the swan princess if the none of character turned into a swan in these new movies
45:57 Let it Go? No. I Stand Alone from Quest For Camelot? YES!!!!!!
EXACTLY.
@@EmilyTheManx yeah. Ripping off a song from a flick full of ripoffs (Kaylee ripping off Belle, the ogre ripping off the rockbitter from Neverending Story
Wait what? Uuuh ok I I guess their kinda similar
@@dimitriwarchief301 oh they are pretty much the same. And to top it off, she doesn't have a character. And there's the fact that there are clear signs of studio meddling
Why are Odette and Derek so creepy? Everyone else aren't great but the look like animated Barbie and Ken dolls, maybe if they were a little more cartoony, maybe if their eyes were a little bigger.....
Swan princess and alpha and omega: five sequels or more
Wall-e and Prince of Egypt: no sequels
Think about that
Otakun The vegan yeah
Otakun The vegan yep
The Dark Arts in this movie for some reason is a sentient primal force instead of you know a magical art created by evil mages...why? The big bad could’ve it been oh I don’t know some ancient Russian fae from Russian folklore that woke up after a 400 year slumber and had a very xenophobic attitude towards humans. The Darkness from the comics and video games is a more intimidating primal force, and it killed Moses and ate his heart for shits and giggles.
crypto457 what comics?
Seriously? You heard of or at least played the games? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Darkness_(comics)
Why would they give Derek a Sleeping Potion? Wouldn't it not make more sense if they gave him a potion that only replicates death like in Romeo & Juliet? I mean if he is sleeping, he still has a pulse. Idiots.
Well we all KNOW how that ended 😅
Wait a second, how do they know what pandas are?
Oh my, that "pirate princess Elise" character is so annoying... One of the worst kid characters I've seen.
And why did they declare some random orphan kid as a heir to the throne? That's not how monarchy works, not even in fairy tales.
And how big is Derak and Odette's kingdom anyway? From these movies it looks like all they have is only one castle and one village near it. They don't even have an army and are forced to use fucking flying squirrels instead.
The first three movies at least had some little charm and were decently animated.
Legally an adopted child cannot inherent the throne so if anything Derek and Odette are being dicks raising this kid like a princess because she’ll eventually have that royal life taken from her and she won’t be prepared for the outside world
Have we ever actually seen them dealing with politics they probably aren’t even aware of it and Ellise is in for a nasty surprise once they die the next time the forbidden arts show up
They sit around all day helping random people until they get the chance to fight monsters and look pretty “what else is there”
She spends her time tango dancing, yelling at people about her birthday, cockblocking Rodgers and training Elise to be a princess not through diplomacy and how to rule properly but by having tea parties and wearing a sports bra do you seriously trust her to change the law on her own
1. If she divorced a husband then he’d have no control over the kingdom any royal status would be stripped from him (plus divorce would be illegal at this point in history)
2. Yes it’s possible they could be good royals but it’s a movie show don’t tell
NO NOT THE SPORTS BRA AND YOGA PANTS!!
30:50 I'll repeat what I asked in your Swan Princess Christmas review: how can you be so sure this movie is set in 19th century Russia? Yes, Swan Lake was written by a Russian composer in the 19th century, but that doesn't mean that's where this movie is set. That would be like if I said Game of Thrones was set in America in the mid 90's.
Agreed. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's set in a fictional world.
Aw man, even pirates couldn't save that sequel.
Also 24:50 Waaah bird teeth! D:
Yeah, I'm surprised Bobsheux didn't mention that, teeth on birds are just plain creepy!
Looks like a fucking animatronic thing. What works in 2D doesn't always translate well in 3D, goddamnit.
DeepEye1994
Now that you mention it, it'd fit right in at Five Nights at Freddys, and I couldn't agree more about your point about 2D vs 3D. With 2D, you can do really cheap animation and still have it look decent, even the worst 2D animated kid's movies like Dingo pictures just look like mediocre kid drawings, but with 3D, anything not done by experts will look like nightmare fuel, and even Disney messed up the character designs in Frozen. Anna/Elsa look ok in the 2D artwork, but in the film, their giant eyes and weird baby heads just looked creepy to me.
Princess Elise? Oh god no, its Sonic 06 all over again!
The second he said Princess Elise, I immediately thought of the character from Sonic! 😅
45:57 WHAT!? COME OOONNN! That totally called for a Quest for Camelot " I Stand Alone" reference!
Since when did The Swan Princess become associated with pirates? That's like making Santa Claus a pirate...oh wait. They already did that.
Has anyone else noticed how this series cannot decide on what time period it is set in? The first looked like it took place in Medieval times, but now it seems to take place in the 17th or 19th century (That is most evident in the Christmas Special)??? This has more concerning problems than this, but I figured I'd mention it. Also at 15:04, I could have sworn the tune was ripped from Les Miserables, notably Gavroche's portion of "Look Down (The Paris: 1832 Reprise)". Talent-less hacks.
Detective Scheper Yes.
Detective Scheper
I couldn't agree more, though being indecisive about time periods is a problem in a few Disney movies too, such as the royal guards in Tangled wearing Napoleonic uniforms while the robbers all wear viking helmets and Rapunzel has a frigging Chameleon as a pet. I'd love to see more animated films actually dare to do some research and actually stick to a specific historical time period for once, instead of just sticking the heroine in a modern prom dress and add in pointless pop-cultural references just to appeal to kids more.
“Hire some humans?” But we spent a lot of time and money on these squirrel models! We need to use them again to make back our investment!
Holy shit, how did Crest animation's human models get even uglier after their first 3d swan princess movie?
even the 80's had better humans in 3D.
It’s one crystal ball containing the forbidden arts, that transformed into an evil spirit that knows the powers of the forbidden arts, so It still can be singular, even if it's pluralized. Also when Odette said „We’re up against the forbidden arts once again”, i don’t think she meant the same villain throughout all those movies, but that dark magic used by Rothbart, this time used by a tribe of squirrells. They were fighting that dark magic itself, AND the people who used it and got corrupted. Also „Scullions” is probably just the name of one of many tribes of those flying squirrels, just like a team of basketball players are called the Mavericks instead of „People”. There were probably many squirrels, but this one tribe called itself „Scullions”. At least that’s what i can gather.
I hate that I love the way Uberta’s hair wiggles when she turns her head.
I wish I had that Buzz Lightyear action figure that says BullShit
Yo ho yo ho a critic's life for me!
We bwindle the movies and swindle the schmucks
popcorn me hearties yo ho!
We nitpick the story that gives no two F%&#S drink up the soda yo ho!
Excellent
For... I am a Pirate King! And it is, it is, a glorious thing to be a Pirate King! (It is! Hurrah for the Pirate King, Hurrah for the Pirate King!)
TheDefectiveTurret 😂😂😂
man these Swan Princess sequels had really UGLY CGI
Are They Are Trying To Make The Swan Princess Series Be Like The How To Train Your Dragon Series?
Because that might impede on her beauty and what else is there? 😂 great callback
16:23 was it a european or african squirrel?
so does when does dread pirate rothbart show up?
Does anyone wish that there were more reviews on TV media? Like more reviews on Barney videos and hopefully a show that has never been reviewed before on UA-cam?
Wow. A. Swan Princes review not a week after first watching your original Swan Princess review. it must be my birthday 😀😀
I just watched "Swan Princess: A Royal Myztery" a few days ago, you are so going to hate that sh*t!! That movie was legit horrendous.
That Hell's Kitchen scene.... I have no words. Just.... what? XDD
45:40 I’m surprised you didn’t insert a Quest for Camelot joke
15:47. Oh my god. That's horrendous. The original transformation scene was actually a very nicely animated scene, and seeing the 3D version is such... a *mockery* of something that I actually loved from the original movie. Why
Hung Nguyen Agreed:(
Elise should probably be more grateful for her princess title and being adopted by the unrealistically nice royalty, considering she, you know, came from a family of wood cutters?
Agreed. After all, Derek and Odette didn't kill her parents and destroy her village, only keeping her alive so that she could tell them where the village's secret treasure was kept.
Lindsey Riley
Who knows? She might end up falling in love with a super fast blue hedgehog.
She’s also got to be careful because royalty does not transfer to adopted children so her princess title is completely honorary
Kind would be awkward to not treat the child or royalty as royalty just because she's adopted.
Been rewatching these Swan Princess videos lately and I have good memories of watching them (the reviews, not the films themselves) back when they were new, I was 19 years old and going through a bad time in my life with school but I like to think these helped make me feel better back then.
I’ll just assume this got copyright striked and I’m just too late to see.
Just because those ashes were the remains of equipment to create the Forbidden Arts, that doesn’t mean that Odette is a demon. Maybe Derek’s love for Odette and the fire he used, were able to purge the evil from the ashes and bring the pure and good Odette back to life. At least that’s my theory.
Oh boy. This movie got Sleeping Beauty Remake Syndrome. In trying to make female characters look stronger and better all the male characters inexplicably become stupid, weak or evil.
I still love that speech you did for Stefan in Maleficent.
Serasia I didn't mind the maleficent live action movie. While crappy cgi uncanon swan princess movies can go die in a ditch
Agreed. No idea why the producers thought sequels were a good idea, even if they wanted to make money. Try to make them sane at least.
I feel kinda bad for the Forbidden Arts, Imagine if you were born and all your life you were forbidden just because you existed! And also, to make matters worse, you have to live with the fact that no matter what you do, you're gonna be killed by some princess in a couple years! I'd be pretty upset as well! Plus it seems like he has a bit of an identity crisis with how many times he changed throughout this movie! So basically this is about a perfect princess murdering a poor, old, mentally unwell force of nature that was shunned by all just for his existence.
You know, if Elise ever took the throne, there'd probably be a rather violent coup to remove the peasant born ruler from the throne
By law an adopted child cannot inherit the throne so she’s screwed either way
What Scully should've said was "As my uncle used to say no, something. I know it starts with an F I just can't remember what it is" Then Puffin would say "I can answer that, No..." Jeanbob stops saying "Please don't"
I wonder if my neighbors wonder why they hear someone screaming about squirrels from my house.
Why does the song by "Lucas" remind me of Garret from Warner Bro's "Quest of Camelot"? It seemed like they stripped some lyrics from that song he sang when he departed from Kaylie
Oh boy that kraken scene... 1: electric eels live in rivers, not the ocean... 2: they do not fire lightning bolts, electricity is invisible under water. Also, not at that range.
24:18 IS THAT A JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE REFERENCE?!?!
Luke Perkins NANI!
Yare Yare Daze!
What do you mean? He was reviewing Swan Princess sequels! That's no time for a JoJo's reference!
But Richard Rich loved the anime so much, that he referenced a character after Jojo!
To be continued...
hey bobsheaux, hope you're having a nice day.
you know what would have really helped make this movie(or at least the royal child subplot) far more interesting? Make the kid actually mute, and show the difficulty Odderek have initially interacting with her because of the combination of trauma and being mute. Show the steps of them going through and learning/developing sign language so they can fluently communicate with her, all while she remains emotionally distant at the two near-strangers who are now her caregivers and guardians. Also give her and Odette some quiet time where Odette can relate the story of her own father's death, giving the two space to talk about it. Maybe have the pair captured at one point, allowing them the quiet scene mentioned before, followed by their attempted escape. Cap it off with Odette seemingly sacrificing herself for the girl, and then a scene or two later, the girl shows up out of nowhere to do something simple to save Odette(cutting a rope, knocking out a guard with a big stick, etc)
Another option to tie into her mute-ness would be for her to rush to the castle, showing up quite bedraggled because of her haste, with torn clothes and all, trying to get someone to understand her to go save Odette. Finally Derrik shows up and gets her to calm down and sign what she's trying to say, which allows him to quickly gather the guard and go save Odette. Maybe leading into a battle scene where they can't get to Odette because the squirrels are holding them off, which allows the girl to circle around off screen to do the simple saving mentioned above.
Thank you for putting this up and making me laugh. Not to mention your idea at 47:45 is completely Effing brilliant, that would be a much better movie.
And I would like to share an idea for the Swan Princess 5; replace the scene where the magic rock is warning Odette and instead show Odette actually saving Jojo the flying Squirrels, later when Odette tries to save Derek but gets shot on sight with one of the poison darts. As the poison slowly kills her, Jojo tries to give her the antidote but Mangler shoot Jojo. So Odette give antidote to Jojo, seeing this cause the other flying Squirrels to realize that the Swan Princess isn't evil.
JOEY JOJO NOOOOOOOO!
Also, when Elise is singing her song, when you mention the flag, the sails aren't down in any of the shots, yet the boat is sailing far out at a decent pace but the sea is calm.
OH! And the masts. One falls over in the storm, but when they crash into the island, they're all up and standing.
12:34 Tell me about it! If I were in her shoes, I'd channel my inner emo, and lock myself in my room all day. Or at the very least be freaked out of my mind that I lost my father, and am now receiving special treatment from Odette and the castle staff!
KID? WHY ARE YOU SMILING! YOUR DAD WAS KILLED IN A FIRE YESTERDAY! I seriously doubt a child can get over the death of a parent, IN ONE DAY. LET ALONE IN ONE MUSICAL NUMBER!!
Anyone else notice that there's a few side characters that haven't been in any of these movies since the original?
*rubs temples* Oh geez, fuck that retcon in the fifth movie. I recall screaming so hard at the screen when I first saw it that I actually gave myself a migraine. Who the hell would write such an asinine-*googles* YURI LOWENTHAL?! WHY, YURI, WHY?!?! Dx
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!-Raises fists to the heavens.-
+Minespatch *PRETENDS TO BREAK COPIES OF SOUL CALIBUR 5 & FIRE EMBLEM FATES ON CAMERA* (He played Patrokalas in the former and is one of the voices for the male avatar Corrin in the latter)
Yeah. That soul killing moment where you make the mistake of looking up the cast
MrXemnas1992 I knew I recognized that voice from somewhere.... sigh.
So I'm guessing that vines in trees are more or like the railing kills from Space Mutiny?
And honestly, Odette and Derek are perhaps the worst royal couple put to film and I mean that in a sense that they're a couple we're SUPPOSED to like rather than being an actual EVIL couple. These two really have no character nor do they have any chemistry together. Even as a kid I couldn't be damned in caring about either one of them because there really isn't anything to them. Say what you will about the Disney Princesses but even for the most calm of the bunch there is a character there. Something there to make them memorable and marketable. You could say that Odette has the swan motif but they dropped that in the last movie so what makes her the swan princess? What makes her so special that we should care about her?
I swear to god, all the characters in this movie series are more or less stock characters used in order to give examples of an archetype, not what the final character SHOULD be. And as I said, Disney had the balls to show that Areal got knocked up and popped out a kid but Odette can't? HONESTLY? They had to kill someone else in order to give these chuckleheads a kid.
NOOOOOOOOOICE.
RAILING KILL!
@@Swordsmen99 YES
At least KateHumph was already shown to be cliche from the start and as the movies went on, we get used to how bland they are even as parents.
Derek and Odette were so CRAFTED to be a Disney Couple (tm) that its SHOCKING how awful they are and they only get worse as the movies goes on.
I’m not surprised that the writers suck that developing a grief-ridden girl😑
I write young girls with trauma better on my stupid Marvel RP than these paid writers
"Why do we have to rely on a dead squirrel for the movie to have a happy ending?"
These CGIs are so awful....i feel my eyes are on fire... or is it the Forbidden Arts doing it?
41:28 Thank you for putting that image in my head Rob
45:44 That's not a rip off of Let It Go, that's a rip off of I Stand Alone from Quest For Camelot!
50:29 Carriages went on the left hand side of the road. They even still do in England.