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  • @AetherHub
    @AetherHub  2 роки тому +99

    I’m back in person. Still need to work on the new set a bit. But ELESH NORN IS BACK BABYYYY

    • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
      @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому

      She’s soaking up that limelight while her sister is crying in the corner wondering if anyone loves her as much

    • @nalley9
      @nalley9 2 роки тому

      It makes you think what happened to sheoldred

    • @Hysube
      @Hysube 2 роки тому

      And in due time, by all things of the machine orthodoxy, all will become compleat

    • @informedconsumer5293
      @informedconsumer5293 2 роки тому

      Arena has been causing some backlash

    • @angel38618
      @angel38618 2 роки тому

      The use of they and them and there tests wording is soooo annoying and make things hard to understand
      Let alone disgusting
      It's a freaking sissy planewalkers period
      It's not a they it's not a them
      It's a bloody he

  • @brotquel1592
    @brotquel1592 2 роки тому +159

    Phyrexia may be horrific, but the image of a garden of human limbs and parts... You don't need to be a phyrexian to be disgusted.

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +17

      True. One of the most disturbing descriptions in MTG history

    • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
      @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому +6

      Plants made from limbs and organs? Seen it.

    • @Lynvix
      @Lynvix 2 роки тому +5

      hope this one gets a card in the future

    • @aceundead4750
      @aceundead4750 2 роки тому +7

      That sounds like a From Software level design in a Souls game

    • @demonkingsparda
      @demonkingsparda 2 роки тому +8

      Look up the Sarkic cults. Plants growing human body parts is par for the course

  • @Kokonutzlz
    @Kokonutzlz 2 роки тому +78

    Ashiok not teaming up with the Phyrexians just yet and actually combating them is so cool! We love Ashiok!
    I agree that this story is super cool, good writing

    • @rennac3152
      @rennac3152 2 роки тому +8

      Team faceless for the win!!!

    • @angel38618
      @angel38618 2 роки тому +1

      The use of they and them and there tests wording is soooo annoying and make things hard to understand
      Let alone disgusting
      It's a freaking sissy planewalkers period
      It's not a they it's not a them
      It's a bloody he

    • @andresmarrero8666
      @andresmarrero8666 2 роки тому +2

      @@angel38618 honestly he sounds more like a collective hence the wording.

    • @Kokonutzlz
      @Kokonutzlz 2 роки тому +10

      @@angel38618 ay literally all the humanity has been removed from them. All that's left is ambition and a craving to create fear (we don't really know enough to know about any other motives). This is by far the best example of a being that is outside of any sort of gender, and if you can't fathom that then I guess that's your own nightmare LOL
      Like all they are is just Ashiok, just a nightmare.

    • @JazzyBassy
      @JazzyBassy 2 роки тому +7

      @@angel38618 I feel like I am poking at a bee's nest but why is that disgusting to you? Do ya feel the same way with Niko Aris?

  • @FreddieFevens
    @FreddieFevens 2 роки тому +98

    It’s interesting to hear a horror story from a horror’s perspective.

  • @ΓιώργοςΑθανασιάδης-λ6ω

    Ashiok is my favorite Planeswalker. Seeing them face Elesh Norn with such ease gave me goosebumps

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +26

      It’s the first time we get a power level for both Ashiok and Elesh Norn. And it didn’t disappoint

    • @shaunbeckett9475
      @shaunbeckett9475 2 роки тому +1

      Ashiok is 1 dude ?

    • @angel38618
      @angel38618 2 роки тому +1

      @@shaunbeckett9475 ye....
      Sadly I thought it was a cute shut but turned out it's a sissy

    • @shaunbeckett9475
      @shaunbeckett9475 2 роки тому +3

      @@angel38618 I'm sorry what ?

    • @angel38618
      @angel38618 2 роки тому +1

      @@shaunbeckett9475 exactly what I said when I found out

  • @franciscomuro8427
    @franciscomuro8427 2 роки тому +61

    I just want to take a moment and appreciate the Gaul that Aishok has to use nightmare magic on Elesh Norn. Even then Norn was still formidable and makes me worried for the multiverse if the phyrexians are able to capture Aishok and complet them. Phyrexians are already walking nightmares to us fleshings but to amplify or harness that fear would be insane. All in all I really loved this story and has me excited for our return to Phyrexia.

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +9

      I was surprised if didn’t happen in this story. But it shows how strong Norn is while still being a mortal being

    • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
      @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому +5

      Well that’s Ashiok for you were all just little toys for him, just imagine a jokester messing with his friends like above darth helmet in space balls and bellow Adam saddler in… any of his movies

    • @christopherb501
      @christopherb501 2 роки тому

      *gall

    • @aceundead4750
      @aceundead4750 2 роки тому +1

      I want compleated Ashiok. Please give me, i will offer my firstborn to Elesh if i can has a compleated Ashiok.

    • @davidhowell1415
      @davidhowell1415 2 роки тому +1

      Watch norn have her spark ignite and become a walker

  • @liminal_entity1331
    @liminal_entity1331 2 роки тому +23

    I'm always excited when we get a new story featuring Ashiok. They are easily my favourite planeswalker, even if they are woefully underdeveloped and underutilized. I seem to recall from an older story about Ashiok (one of the only two or three out there) that they see fear as the greatest equalizer and that their main motivation (aside from creating nightmarish masterpieces) is to use fear to humble those individuals who believe themselves to be above other beings, such as the kings and gods of Theros, and now apparently the phyrexian praetors. If nothing else, we can definitely say that Ashiok humbled Elesh Norn a bit here, and she didn't take too kindly to it. Can't wait for future stories involving the Nightmare Weaver.

    • @pluubooruu
      @pluubooruu 2 роки тому

      @@angel38618 No it doesn't and no it isn't. If someone mentions a friend and didn't mention their gender or sex and/or they have a unisex name, you would use they when referring to them.
      Disgusting? Okay Elesh Norn. Seems like you don't understand the story. Right through your ears. Things aren't they way you like, so you spurn them and call them disgusting.
      He? Prove it.

    • @maurygoldblat8982
      @maurygoldblat8982 2 роки тому

      @@pluubooruu
      While Ashiok's gender is not known, Mark Rosewater and others at wotc referred to the planeswalker as "he or her" while revealing that the gender was not yet known. This predates wotc desire to be "woke" and practice revisionist history with their own characters (2013).
      Does this make saying "They" disgusting? Hardly. Its just easier to say They when you are unsure whether the planeswalker is a he or she. Its not grammatically correct, but many of the things people say are not. Not a big deal.
      Pure angel... not everything needs to be a political issue. Calm down with the disgusting talk lol. You DO sound like a depraved Phyrexian!

  • @mauriciovillegas7285
    @mauriciovillegas7285 2 роки тому +42

    I expected that the human woman that seemed familiar was herself, before being compleated... hinting that at the end of this storyline the Phyrexians (including 'walkers) would get their original personalities and memories back.

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +9

      That would be cool foreshadowing. Not sure how much to read into it though. I just think it’s what’s Norns worst nightmare could possibly be.

    • @zackwilcox3183
      @zackwilcox3183 2 роки тому +5

      @@AetherHub so following this thread , reverting to her imperfect form would be in theory probably her worst nightmare. 🤔 Would be a kinda cool narrative to see happen.

    • @m0ejo324
      @m0ejo324 2 роки тому +1

      @@zackwilcox3183 I like this

  • @evilpellu
    @evilpellu 2 роки тому +15

    I so hope Ashiok doesn’t get compleated during the next few sets . Mtg has its “evil schemer” villains (Bolas and Norn) , its “self serving henchmen” villains (Tezzeret and Dovin , to a certain extent) and its “force of nature” villains (Eldrazis and Phyrexians as a whole). Ashiok is something different, and their sheer elseness is so refreshing : they are something in between force of nature (almost an embodiment of fear itself) and scheming lunatic that actually enjoys their nature and role . It is always interesting and entertaining to see the more goal-oriented, mastermind kind of villains come to face against something or someone that is completely foreign to their plans, a kind of odd dangerous evil so removed from their own that even they have to start questioning things.
    Tl,dr : we need more Ashiok

    • @evilpellu
      @evilpellu 2 роки тому +2

      Also…it almost seems like Ashiok has been planning and preparing the conflict between Elspeth and Elesh Norn . They went to the underworld of Theros specifically to recover Elspeth , and now they’ve gone to Norn specifically to remind her of the danger that Elspeth poses to the Machine Orthodoxy . It seems that Ashiok expressly wants this confrontation to happen… but I couldn’t guess why

    • @jazybomber
      @jazybomber 2 роки тому +2

      I want completed Ashiok. To each their own I guess.

    • @Jm96RoCk
      @Jm96RoCk 2 роки тому +1

      The thing about Ashiok is precisely that, that they are already doing what they desire, and they answer to no one but themselves in carrying out their whims.

  • @TheOuroboros84
    @TheOuroboros84 2 роки тому +9

    wow this is SUCH an awesome idea. The premise is so awesome...It's like Ashiok had become so insanely good at creating nightmares for regular beings...the only thing that could entertain him anymore is to terrorize living nightmares, what a baller. BEST MTG VILLAIN EVER!!!

  • @1986Om3ga
    @1986Om3ga 2 роки тому +20

    I like seeing how Ashiok's magic is powerful even against beings you wouldn't think it would work. But I think the biggest takeaway I had was when Ashiok got rattled when Elesh Norn dug deep, refocused on her divine purpose and her confidence that Phyrexia is the truth, manifesting her own nightmares. The...determination of Phyrexia is honestly their most terrifying aspect.

  • @CountDookuful
    @CountDookuful 2 роки тому +7

    I've been a fan of your channel for YEARS man. I remember getting home from highschool and tuning into Friday night lore!

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +2

      It’s crazy to think I’ve had an impact on someone for that long. The years have just flown by…

  • @jeremyobriant7266
    @jeremyobriant7266 2 роки тому +11

    Ashiok is one of my favorite designs for a character in MTG. I like how both Elesh Norn and Ashiok have similar designs (eyeless, horned, clawed) but Ashiok's design is darker while Elesh Norn's is brighter. It's a cool contrast.
    Also, can a nightmare be compleated? 🧐

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 2 роки тому +2

      I don't think so, compleation requires organic flesh. While Ashiok is partially flesh, they're also partially made of nightmare magic. The glistening oil may have unpredictable effects on an entity that is somehow functional despite missing many organs that should be necessary to survive and I think Elesh would rather erase them with a blast of light than risk messing up the "perfect" world she created.

    • @jeremyobriant7266
      @jeremyobriant7266 2 роки тому

      @@astuteanansi4935 That's similar my thought. A nightmare, at least as I imagine it, isn't a tangible object (even though in MtG, a nightmare creature doesn't have any gameplay text that would allude to them not being interactable, unlike text an illusion creature type has). I'd consider it a thought or an idea, and therefore not a physical object. I'm thinking Ashiok is more akin to an illusion, appearing in "physical" form inside your mind.
      But we may just be overthinking everything. We shall see what is to come next!

    • @astuteanansi4935
      @astuteanansi4935 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeremyobriant7266 I feel like you're overthinking it a bit by equating it to an illusion. I personally think that the black smoke is either just pure raw nightmare magic or coalesced fear energy, making Ashiok a sort of "nightmare elemental".

    • @jeremyobriant7266
      @jeremyobriant7266 2 роки тому

      @@astuteanansi4935 I think you're probably right. Physical manifestation of dream/nightmare energy.

  • @GM-lx7ji
    @GM-lx7ji 2 роки тому +9

    Was about time we finaly see whats going on with Elesh Norn, meanwhile Ashiok is just having a good time.

  • @Narakuda
    @Narakuda 2 роки тому +6

    I absolutely love this episode! I love the idea of Ashiok just decided to screw with Elesh Norn and really put one over on her and still manages to learn a thing or two about the phyrexians (new lore for us, yay!) I'm super stoked to see more

  • @raydelmartinez2905
    @raydelmartinez2905 2 роки тому +8

    Ashiok trolling everyone across the multiverse.

    • @chia7794
      @chia7794 2 роки тому +3

      One of the best planeswalkers imo

  • @mandielyn0416
    @mandielyn0416 2 роки тому +9

    Finally a story that leaves you starving for more. Please Wizards, I beg you, more like this!

  • @Habizbah
    @Habizbah 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for doing what you do. This is my source of mtg lore. The last mtg book/ lore article, etc. I read was Legions.

  • @MrLittleninja96
    @MrLittleninja96 2 роки тому +4

    Love ashiok and the phyrexians so having them interact in the lore is something I had always hoped for

  • @michaelmorgan2111
    @michaelmorgan2111 2 роки тому +21

    I really liked this story when I read it. It shows an interesting side of the Phryexians that I didn’t expect and opens the door for very interesting stories in the future.
    Also I loved that Elesh Norn’s nightmare was Elspeth. And gross organ vines. Ew

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +8

      Yes. I wasn’t expecting this. And I was t expecting it to be sooooo good

    • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
      @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому

      There’s a whole scp that’s a organ plant hands for leaves a spine cord trunk mouths at the tip of the roots it’s really something

    • @DDDHunter
      @DDDHunter 2 роки тому

      Well, good thing the thing that can make that a reality is sealed in a moon right now :)

    • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
      @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому

      @@DDDHunter pretty sure she and norn wouldn’t see eye to face with the whole draining mana thing

    • @DDDHunter
      @DDDHunter 2 роки тому

      @@DragonspineInfiniteZero Really, that and not the flesh warping?

  • @dragonknite314
    @dragonknite314 2 роки тому +14

    Before reading the story: Can't wait to see Elish Norn.
    After: Ashiok is now my favorite myg character game and lore wise

  • @FantasyGeographic
    @FantasyGeographic 2 роки тому +2

    Man that mana symbol light is sweet, the ring lights reflection on it threw me off for a second

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I’ll work on placement of that damn light. I had to place it weirdly just to not get the reflection in my glasses… lol

  • @D2RCR
    @D2RCR 2 роки тому +4

    This was such an interesting story. Morbid, yes, but it really added a new dimension to Elesh Norn and the Phyrexians. An enemy with fear is potentially even more dangerous than one without fear…

  • @jesok3761
    @jesok3761 2 роки тому +2

    Great video as always this story makes me love Ashiok so much more.

  • @henryterhune8328
    @henryterhune8328 2 роки тому +3

    Stoked to watch this!

  • @robynna_
    @robynna_ 2 роки тому +3

    As someone who sees themselves on the side of Urabrask, I'm glad that Norn has fears herself despite being such a powerful praetor. Im really excited to see where this goes once Elpspeth and Elish Norn face off.

    • @jazybomber
      @jazybomber 2 роки тому +1

      Screw fear, glory to phyrexia

    • @robynna_
      @robynna_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@jazybomber Yes, very much so

  • @tcane
    @tcane 2 роки тому

    I was waiting for someone to make a video about this! Thanks Seiben!

  • @gothic22d
    @gothic22d 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks, as always, for the lore.

  • @benkentucky4380
    @benkentucky4380 2 роки тому

    Elish Norn and Phyrexia are awesome, not to mention Ashiok being one of the best "side villains" I was hoping to see again. What I love is how *restrained* the story is, showing us the villains in both their power and limitation already and not just a seemingly unstoppable threat. TBH the lead in from Neo Kamigawa had me a bit worried they'd follow the same notes with Phyrexia replacing Bolas, but the grounded details in this story were really compelling. Great reading as always, looking forward to the next chapter.

  • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
    @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому +5

    Wait i thought all new phyrexians knew or atleast understood they were bio mechanical seemless fusions of metal and flesh hence why jin urabrask and vorinclex needed time to recover after plane jumping or i guess in vorinclex's case find some beasts to assimilate, am i missing something?

    • @sashmiel6566
      @sashmiel6566 2 роки тому

      Yes, this was Norn's Nightmare. In her perfect world, there would be no flesh.

  • @khoreekageuchiha7784
    @khoreekageuchiha7784 2 роки тому +1

    Yo I am FREAKING out! This was THRILLING!!!! I've been WAITING for Ahiok's return!

  • @sfwest1011
    @sfwest1011 2 роки тому +2

    i love the content and before mtg purple and the tcgplayer guy i always have seen your lore videos. much love.!

  • @gameplayer08
    @gameplayer08 2 роки тому +1

    An Ashiok and Elesh Norn meet and greet was great! I can’t wait to see how the phyraxian orthodoxy continues their great work across the multiverse. More plains need the holy oil but this new fear is very interesting development. I hope this build up is better than the war of the spark. More planeswalkers teams up and missions would be cool.

  • @overbet36
    @overbet36 2 роки тому +2

    I love all the Phyrexian lore and I'm happy to get this story

  • @aceundead4750
    @aceundead4750 2 роки тому +4

    I hope we get more Tibalt story soon, a compleated Tibalt would be amazing. I want more Phyrexian walkers

    • @jazybomber
      @jazybomber 2 роки тому +2

      1/1 devil tokens with infect

    • @rennac3152
      @rennac3152 2 роки тому +2

      @@jazybomber wizards: “Write that down! Write that down!”

  • @darkmoose84
    @darkmoose84 2 роки тому +3

    I always felt like Phyrexians were a combination of the cenobites from Hellraiser mixed with the Borg from Star Trek. Definitely see that in this story. I can just imagine what a nightmare looks like to the Borg Queen.

    • @nanthony9172
      @nanthony9172 2 роки тому

      Elesh Norn’s title “Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite” actually takes inspiration from Hellraiser

  • @mrrbb2028
    @mrrbb2028 2 роки тому +2

    Elesh Norn the Borg Queen of MTG , great video

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you and of course… praise her

  • @hithere3684
    @hithere3684 2 роки тому +24

    HOW DARE WIZARDS MAKE HER have “FEAR” FOOLS!!! They will pay for this
    Great story aside from that, it seems that Magic will have its greatest story soon
    The Compleated multiverse

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +9

      Man it would be cool to have a supplemental set or even a Secret Liar set with all phyrexianized character art. Sort of like what Marvel did with Zombies.

    • @voidmaster6353
      @voidmaster6353 2 роки тому

      Even steel can be cracked, and all sentient beings are afraid...of something

    • @D2RCR
      @D2RCR 2 роки тому

      Fear might actually make the Phyrexians even more dangerous in the end…

  • @michaelatkinson88
    @michaelatkinson88 2 роки тому

    Don't like the content? I love it dude! Keep it up! I had already read the article and still tuned in for your reading.

  • @joshuasaucedo3444
    @joshuasaucedo3444 2 роки тому

    very good keep it up was wondering if you or someone did anything on marit lage

  • @arkanixarcmage
    @arkanixarcmage 2 роки тому +1

    The ease at which Ashiok toyed her, calling her a canvas. Gave me the goosebumps! Also hints at what plans Ashiok has for Elesh. I thought that the plants with human parts, fortold the beginning of a mechanical hybrid habitat of old Phyrexia on Mirrodin. Hmmm. Something seems off here. The calculations of Elesh are without feeling. Logical. Ashiok just made a Phyrexian ponder real perfection, without knowing it. Phyrexia was once a weak dream, and to overcome a her nightmare, Elesh has to wake up and smell the dead bodies.
    Feel the mechanism. Not just control it. A perfectionist bloody horror VS a...Chaotic neutral hippy with no face?
    I'll be at the playground after school for this chick fight!
    Arcmage.

  • @robbyjones9813
    @robbyjones9813 2 роки тому

    Question, was the citadel where these planes walkers were/are. is she talking about when Elspeth was their before or are there other planeswalkers currently on New phrexia besdies , forgot his name, the red planeswalker.

  • @ELFudgeOreos
    @ELFudgeOreos 2 роки тому +1

    Ashiok just wants to troll people. Even if they are machine people.

  • @ealdscield
    @ealdscield 2 роки тому +2

    Still elesh norn managed it like a cold machine. Loved it

  • @andrewinglis1585
    @andrewinglis1585 2 роки тому

    looking well rested after having a new baby friend. hope the Mrs. is recovering well and the baby is healthy :) keep up the amazing work

  • @alexanderficken9354
    @alexanderficken9354 2 роки тому +2

    love this new story! elspeth v norn here we go

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому

      I’m glad they made this fight more personal

  • @chrisjohnson4174
    @chrisjohnson4174 2 роки тому +1

    This story just shows the difference in power between planeswalker and plane specific threats.

  • @jamescompton2588
    @jamescompton2588 2 роки тому +1

    I agree that this story was exceptional!!

  • @askani21
    @askani21 2 роки тому +2

    PHYREXIAN GARGANTUA's flavor text says: "Other Phyrexians have nightmares about the gargantua." So, yes, they can have nightmares loll

  • @thrud159
    @thrud159 2 роки тому

    As a fan of Elspeth I'm enjoying how things are building up.

  • @hectormorales4090
    @hectormorales4090 2 роки тому

    Oh my, such a cool take good sir.

  • @danbenton4150
    @danbenton4150 2 роки тому

    Where did the music come from?

  • @NZHA-go7io
    @NZHA-go7io 2 роки тому

    Where's our new elesh norn card is there any news on if we're going to get one.

  • @grimtrix
    @grimtrix 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting... So Phyrexian fear is actually more like that which they hate becoming uncontrollable. I am glad they didnt try to say Norn was afraid of big daddy Yawgmoth returning... though, it would have been cool to give him a little shout out...

  • @kylefrasca3632
    @kylefrasca3632 2 роки тому

    epic voicing aether hub, thanks for the story

  • @joury900
    @joury900 2 роки тому

    Finally she's back. Been waiting for her since 2011.. over a decade of waiting.. FINALLY THE MOTHER OF MACHINES HAS RETURNED

  • @vicwolfrin
    @vicwolfrin 2 роки тому

    Elesh norn grand coenobite, is my second favourite card I own, just under Godzilla doom inevitable

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 2 роки тому

    That's what you get when you try playing highball and try taking over everything. You will find yourself completely out of your dept in ways you didn't know existed.

  • @Itachi45481
    @Itachi45481 2 роки тому

    what could be more interesting to ashiok a robotic flesh horror being afraid

  • @gorfine1982
    @gorfine1982 2 роки тому

    Elesh norn reminds me of hellraiser movies of her being a cenobite creature

  • @isaacreyes2954
    @isaacreyes2954 2 роки тому

    So awesome. Definitely a story i like

  • @JessBritvec
    @JessBritvec 2 роки тому +3

    Now we are getting a good story! I love how the story made me, a human, feel like human flesh is disgusting. 😂 Ashiok being able to effect Elesh Norn is an interesting match up. I fully expect Ashiok to be on their own side with no allegiance, but I wonder if they have teamed up with Sheoldred who is (surprise) not dead. 😈Regardless, I wonder if they have the power to divide a conquer the Phyrexians, it’ll be fun to see what happens and if all will really be one.
    Elspeth is always finding girls who can fix everybody’s problems and getting magical weapons, so I’m pretty sure if Luxior doesn’t help beat back the Phyrexians she will find more until she can arm all the planeswalkers in existence. The Luxior card makes planeswalkers into creatures so I want to know how it functions in the story. Since the Phyrexians have been using the Planar Bridge I suspect Luxior/Halo will be able to destroy it, but who knows. Magical weapons or not, Elspeth is definitely scary to the cold logical predictability the Phyrexians love.

    • @cthun5912
      @cthun5912 Рік тому

      Sheoldred is dead by now

  • @TheArcSet
    @TheArcSet 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this.

  • @Thestar17x
    @Thestar17x 2 роки тому

    Loved the vid

  • @squeethemog213
    @squeethemog213 2 роки тому

    Read the story the other day. Such a good read to see what a horrible abomination truly fears 🤔

  • @placeholdername3818
    @placeholdername3818 2 роки тому +3

    I hope they don't Compleate Ashiok. Part of what makes her cool is her competence and independence. Ashiok being defeated by Elesh Norn kind of kills that.

  • @thekeefer690
    @thekeefer690 10 місяців тому

    Ashiok is a more mysterious being than any other, nightmare manipulation at Ashioks core, has the distinct advantage over any mind or any being possessing a mind, to completely usurp Ashioks target through fear, you would need one who is unbreakably insane to battle Ashioks power. What does Ashiok fear? kittens, rainbows, food colored super glue, or a blank canvass, could literal nothingness or a type of, nirvana if you will, be the fear of nightmares itself? lol Dont mind my mindless musing here, its just that Ashiok is not very well fleshed out as a character or planeswalker, so we dont know alot about what could make Ashiok vulnerable if its possible at all.

  • @fiddlewheelx
    @fiddlewheelx 2 роки тому +2

    Wild Theory Time: Elspeth is related to the Human Elesh Norn once was.

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +1

      That would be CRAZY and AMAZING

  • @3kojimbles895
    @3kojimbles895 2 роки тому +3

    ashiok, compleat nightmare when?

  • @Cybershroom
    @Cybershroom 2 роки тому

    Garden of Flesh, Yeah I see you there, Hellraiser and your Puzzle of Flesh. Joke aside, I can't wait to see her return.

  • @allan1448
    @allan1448 2 роки тому

    Ohhhhhhh Yeah...After Eldrazis come the Machines...The Phyrexians are taking more and more my intrest. They are a species that are worth to deal with. Looking forward how the lore will unfold and what the Mother of Machines will be ploting to do with the Multiverse

  • @henryterhune8328
    @henryterhune8328 2 роки тому +1

    The planeswalker's arrogance will be their undoing. The mother of machines will succeed, and all will be compleated.
    Then we'll find out what The Brother's War is going to look like.

  • @KrisPSouls9258
    @KrisPSouls9258 Рік тому

    This was a awesome story.

  • @LordDuddy77
    @LordDuddy77 2 роки тому

    Just hope they keep the theme of White mana Phyrexians being all stichted insideout and just really grotesque looking lol they just had really awesome artwork

  • @QuietEco
    @QuietEco 2 роки тому

    “There not just words, Mom. It’s a lifestyle! ‘Cause I got your picture I’m coming with you”

  • @amyholdren
    @amyholdren 2 роки тому

    This was wild!

  • @sunnysidefriendakdk2829
    @sunnysidefriendakdk2829 2 роки тому

    3 of the most interesting characters in modern mtg lore, how cool..

  • @tannermccollum7060
    @tannermccollum7060 2 роки тому

    Must not let her know I'm working for Urabrask.

  • @phillipmeade7640
    @phillipmeade7640 2 роки тому

    Love the content.

  • @mafiuyu4305
    @mafiuyu4305 2 роки тому

    Good to see the Mother of maschines again

  • @Nobody-xe9fc
    @Nobody-xe9fc Рік тому

    Welp time to see more Ashiok in March of the Machines....

  • @koboldprime2257
    @koboldprime2257 2 роки тому

    "Blessed Mother... Save us."

  • @Insane-Howl-Cowl
    @Insane-Howl-Cowl 2 роки тому +1

    Letting Elesh Norn experience fear only makes her more dangerous.

  • @Case2_0
    @Case2_0 2 роки тому +2

    Honestly, I’d be scared if she was in Kamigawa Neon Dynasty. They lose parts so she would have had to rebuild using anime tropes

    • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
      @DragonspineInfiniteZero 2 роки тому +1

      SHHHHHHHHHHh!!!!! Are you insane the horrors of the internet could be listening and I don’t need Norn to be over saturated by anime tropes and tentacles!

  • @theonedraven8007
    @theonedraven8007 2 роки тому

    predicting the final preator card: Nron, The worried

  • @bambam-tm1gm
    @bambam-tm1gm 2 роки тому

    Great content

  • @codylieser9417
    @codylieser9417 2 роки тому

    That story was 🔥🔥🔥

  • @spenbot1245
    @spenbot1245 2 роки тому +1

    Really loved hearing from Elesh Norn again. She’s one of my favorite characters from the whole series.
    And super super cool story. The idea of Ashiok on a nightmare world just gives me chills with excitement.
    Always been a horror fan and the idea of returning to New Phyrexia gets me super hyped. Absolutely loved it

  • @ShadowWasntHere8433
    @ShadowWasntHere8433 2 роки тому

    I can’t wait for the new Norn

  • @GravitasMor
    @GravitasMor 2 роки тому

    The creatures of Body horror are scared by...Body Horror? Interesting

  • @Wyattbw09
    @Wyattbw09 2 роки тому +1

    I get they are setting up a Mirridon Pure storyline, however it still annoys me that the Mirrion resistance still exists. They made a whole point of noting that the Furnace layer got overrun by Norns forces. There was no place else to run, and trying to set up a Mirrion resistance to use in the eventual New Phyrexia set just feels very ham fisted.

    • @danielbretado7660
      @danielbretado7660 2 роки тому

      I was certain that the razor fields held off the invasion. I will have to check lore again

    • @karlcarpenter771
      @karlcarpenter771 2 роки тому

      Karn is coming with the Cylix. If the rumors are true it's the same thing that almost wiped out Dominaria the end of the Brother's War and put the plane into a massive global winter for 2500 years and didn't end until a pre-mending Planeswalker stop it.
      Not going to see Mirrodin Pure, it's gonna be Mirrodin Gone.

  • @starknight2262
    @starknight2262 2 роки тому +20

    Elesh Nor is a waifu ? Really ? In Mtg i would think that girls like Liliana or Chandra, or Nissa , or Avacyn, or Olivia would be considered Waifus but Elesh nor really ? I just don't see it.

    • @AetherHub
      @AetherHub  2 роки тому +17

      Hey… don’t yuck my yum.

    • @starknight2262
      @starknight2262 2 роки тому +11

      @@AetherHub Lmaof

    • @zacksullivan7426
      @zacksullivan7426 2 роки тому +1

      Star knight has obviously not been compleated yet...

    • @starknight2262
      @starknight2262 2 роки тому +1

      @@zacksullivan7426 No i haven't and don't plan on being completed lol. DOWN WITH THE PHYREXIANS !!

    • @jazybomber
      @jazybomber 2 роки тому +2

      Obviously someone needs their eyes phyrexianized. Ofcourse Elesh is the perfect mtg waifu.

  • @ogxd1431
    @ogxd1431 2 роки тому

    Dope thumbnail

  • @Dragon13527980
    @Dragon13527980 2 роки тому

    what about atraxa she is a praetor right?

  • @ivan39navi
    @ivan39navi 2 роки тому +1

    Machine Waifu is not smth I thought Id hear. But man it was worth it!!

  • @RoughTurbo
    @RoughTurbo 2 роки тому

    What if they find nicol..... or even awaken emerical

  • @ronflores1153
    @ronflores1153 2 роки тому

    You rock!

  • @obadijahparks
    @obadijahparks 2 роки тому

    She fears being alone with her cats for eons....

  • @MackAttack-vh1vz
    @MackAttack-vh1vz 2 роки тому

    Love seeing your face again ❤️❤️❤️

  • @spookys1031
    @spookys1031 2 роки тому +1

    As much as people hate it I want infect to come back