Traders and Slavers - Total War Warhammer 2 - OVN Lost Factions - ARABY - Mod Review
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Araby is a super interesting faction, and contrary to what many people think, it has a very rich lore, and relatively recent (there are novels located in Araby, by Gotrek and Felix, which are from 2016) and really, although after their war with arkhan they ended fatally, 2000 years later the araby empire is perhaps one of the most powerful nations in the world, and according to lore, the great sultan is the richest person on the planet. In general, it is represented with mastery in the mod, and if someone wants more information about its culture, its territory and its history, in the wiki in Spanish everything is very well explained and extended (you can change the language in the upper right corner of his article on the wiki and a simple translation is enough to read it well). It's surprising if you start investigating how far this faction can go, and GW has never quite abandoned it (in a Gotrek novel from Age of Sigmar a woman talks about her place of origin, describing it as a desert kingdom, full of horses with a hump, desert spirits and beautiful brown-skinned dancers), maybe there will be a future for Araby at some point.
What's this Spanish Wiki you're talking about? I'm trying to find it but no results
@@Zooasaurus warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/es/wiki/Arabia
in the araby page of the wiki you can change the language, top right if you are on pc or bottom right if you are mobile
@@serkho_9496 Thank you!
Very true, araby goes way back in Warhammer and never quite vanished, so you keep finding references to it sprinkled through the lore on a fairly regular basis. I think one of the biggest reasons for this is that interest in the tomb kings never faded, and Araby is the human civilization on their doorstep, so any time people talk about the Tomb Kings they often have to mention Araby as well, as all expeditions into that zone start from Araby by nesessity.
Similarly, it was ways to entwined with Bretonnian lore to just sweep under the rug, so when Bretonnia comes up, Araby often does as well by default.
One of the sources that refers to Araby the most is the Brunner the Bounty hunter series, and this is because in an effort to hunt down a Tomb King, he has to find and talk to a bunch of people from Araby to pick up the trail. At the same time he spends several books in Bretonnia, and so between these two we get a lot of Araby as well.
11:12 - lmao did they actually use the mammoth cyclops giant? That was just created for the Troy meme.
This is probably one of the best modded factions ever added, and their recent visual rework has only brought them closer to the official stuff. I personally played all their LLs, and their campaigns are solid and playable, their roster is fun and varied, their LLs are powerful.
And this also applies to other OvN factions such as Albion and Halflings!
Sure, they are missing a few things before they can be considered 100% official-like: barring original voicelines, sadly not possible, they could use an introduction video and advisor sequence, a "how they play" segment, a visual rework of the camels and a few quest battles for their items. But overall these are small nitpicks and only very slightly impact the game, they are still incredibly solid.
It's quite funny how Jaffar's model basically uses custom animation set.
Because it borrows it from imperial death mage, who you probably never ever recruited in entire life, so it's pretty much the only time you see his animations at work.
Honestly I'm enjoying albions campaign. Female leader is busted I was able to kill feral manticore with 1 spell
@@Someone-lg6di I routinely got 500-1000 kills on elite dark elf infantry just by using Flock of Doom, she's pretty amazing
@Glenn Krenz it is!
Araby's economy needs adjusting, it's trivial to get zero slave decline, stack hassassins and make more money than the high elves. I can only assume that it was balanced for the abrogation of slavery tech, but I see no reason you would want that tech - a small buff to leadership and public order in exchange for 75% of your slave income? No thanks.
This mod simply looks badass. I honestly like the idea of middle eastern fantasy creatures mixed with weird magic items and light infantry and super heavy Cataphract horse riders. Hope CA does Araby justice, they are a great alternative flavour to the empire and bretonnia.
If we are getting kislev i dont see why we cant have more unique human kingdoms like cathay and ind also.
Good news about Cathay!! It's coming.
And yeah. I've been thinking about this a bit and I want to record my prediction somewhere: I believe that once Total Warhammer 3 has been fully populated with Chaos Dwarfs and Ogre Kingdoms and had a few other DLCs for the launch factions, there will be a new kind of DLC: Dual faction pack. It will be priced similarly to normal race packs but it will have 2 factions with less unique units and monsters, similar to Bretonnia.
And I would think that they will have 2 factions relatively close together, so that their campaign mechanics and introductions and voice lines can reference each other.
If this happens, I bet the first one will be Araby and the Southern Realms, and the 2nd one will be Ind and maybe Nippon, but I doubt it unless the next game launches with Cathay's eastern edge.
@@Isvoor I hope your right, honestly I expect for Kislev to play similarly to the empire but more distinct, and I am happy for less known empires and races in the world to get fleshed out like that and added to them over time.
I fully expect Nippon to be an npc race like brettonia was in og game as they are to close to cathay to not be seen and I do think that as time goes on once all the main races are up to scratch that CA will flesh out the world map and other races/empires.
CA did such a good job with vampire pirates and they were little more than a blurb, I know they can do it again with others.
Another been meaning to look at. Sigh, way to many interesting mods.
Really love seeing the different mods available, I don't play araby often but simply seeing them in game makes me pretty happy :) just think, in the next game (assuming CA doesn't make them) the same efforts could be seem for ind, kharesh, or Cathay and Nippon
Man, using a lore of the desert spellcaster in a flying carpet is quite OP.
And unique.
well one can only hope CA see's this the same way they saw the crafting mechanic for Dawi- they saw ppl want it via mods.
I was quite sad to see them say they don't plan to do Araby. for me the fact that it's all digital assets means why shouldn't they flesh out all the lore when they don't need to worry about how the minis will sell. I know the culture packs for ROME 2 were criticised, but I'd pay for a Gods of the Empire pack that added Middenland, and Talabecland with Ulric and Taal units
Im just finished a Araby playthrough and now im on Albion (which you need to do a video on. The race is so fleshed out and balanced its crazy!) Thank you for doing these videos i send them to my friends who i think would like these races whenever they complain about being bored with the game.
I really really like this mod, it is said that GW somehow decided that because of their earlier approaches, it was time to just abandon the whole concept. Personally I would love to see a new Araby lore based around Pre Islamic religions to give it the same pagan / medieval edge as the Empire and take inspiration from the 1001 nights style stories like Ali Baba etc. I would like to see new Arabyan cults added to the Warhammer world.
I think the Jihad mechanic when you retake a city is a bit odd, and perhaps inspired more by Medieval 2's odd take than the Crusades. Although I suppose you can retake cities that were once yours so that makes a bit more sense.
Overall bravo ovn!
And I really hope you are right about Warhammer The OLD WORLD!
Araby is easily one of my favorite factions in this mod. Sultan Jaffar is a nice LL.
I saw that there is a faction called "Rotbloods" and I am more then happy to wait for them until they are finished(its inside the OvN Lost Factions mod)
Its basicly a norsca X chaos faction that can settle anywhere and can recruit some skaven units(as we know from our little buddy game called "Warhammer Vermintide 2").
They are supposed to be able to warp around with warppower(the armys) but a bit of testing I did not see any dilemma about it.
Also, if anyone knows an "Clan Fester" mod or a mod that somehow makes that faction playable, please link me the steampage. Thats really the only faction I want to play at this point for reasons.
Faction Pack: Skaven unlocked will let you play as them. It almost certainly will break all of your mods because so many things depend on Mixu's unlocker. (Edit: apparently you can make it Mixu compatible by using Mixu's Unlocker Unlocked)
Also I think the Rotbloods are a Vermintide reference when Nurgle and Skaven team up.
I can agree the mod is cool and should be tried if you enjoyed the game (didn’t toutch mods for 350h)
CA should hire these guys and make it official and give them a slice of the pie, it helps to make a completeness of the map
Albion next ?
Mods are the hope for me regarding the human kingdoms of Warhammer Fantasy. Besides Kislev and maybe Southern Kingdoms, CA won´t launch the other realms like Araby or Cathay.
There are several hints about East being explored in third game and I would rather see it instead of southlings.
@@Prushinthespirit There are hints. But I´m pessimistic. I think they will only expand until the Mountains of Mourn, only. Where the Ogres live.
@@andresr.viguera9791 would be dumb from business perspective as it would sunder possibilities for gold-digging. Let's be honest, for CA this game's audience is a milking cow and nothing more, so they gotta sure money to keep coming. They can't just close eyes to the fact that Warhammer content rises much more hype and interest in buying it than Troy and TK would ever hope for.
Also, they announced third game to be the biggest out of all 3 and second game added 4 full continents.
@@Prushinthespirit I hope you are right. I am one of those persons who would love to see all factions at the end of the trilogy, included those who were just mentioned very briefly like Cathay, Ind or the Naga from Kuresh.
@@andresr.viguera9791 its just the fact that if they act safely, they'll have just enough content for a release version (Kislev, Ogres, Chaos Dwarfs, Demons and completed Chaos Warriors, if they even decide to split them from demons).
But what to add after that?
You should give Elon's Greybeards a shot. They start in that valley south of Araby. They are styled as Roman legions and are extremely low in number. Their typical unit size is about 60. They make up for it with experimental technology and higher than normal armor. They also have a really unique campaign. They have unhospitable climate for the desert, so expansion is rough. They need to capture specific cities that are "centers of technology".
Araby deserved place in Total War more than the joke Vampire reskins.
I hope that creative assembly will take inspiration for his future game/dlc from community mods
If CA ever make a campaign pack for Araby, I hope CA take some serious notes on this and the others.
Ovn did such a GREAT job with the aesthetics and specially the clothing with this faction! This mod is the proof tht a Game of Thrones Total War would look Amazing in this new engine!
Did CA really said they wont make Araby? If that is true then it is really a big loss since they really wont be making cathay, ind kingdom, amazons, albion, estalia or tilea faction since Araby had the most established models and lore out of all side faction 😑
They said there were no current plans sadly. I am a huge fan of Araby in all honesty and quite gutted they may not ever be created
Not quite sure what makes her well-established... Albion and other Southern countries have much better-written lore and have much more influence on world's history.
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges Yes, I was also hoping Araby to be made full like Vampire Coast cause they already have a few units available on table top, but I guess that they didnt think it would be as marketable as VC to make any plan for the time being
@@Prushinthespirit Albion had a TT scenario, mostly battle between truthsayer and dark emissary as new units and maybe a variant of giant reskin. Estalia probably dueller and rodeleros as faction units and Tilea probably had pikemen legions and as faction units but mostly mercenary armies, highly probably we could get it in TWW3 in Dog of War dlc. Southern factions do have a lot lore for legendary figures but less for unique faction units
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges when did they say that?
Hopefully they revisit this with the new Chaos Dwarf DLC units.
Chaos dwarfs mod next!! Pls
I tried that and its also really good!
That’s a great one!
Warhammer mod for mount and blade. Got updated
Love that the sultan’s name is “Jafar” who happens to be a dark spell casting wizard. it’s a nice Easter egg
That's a really great mod. Another level, really, and I say so as a modder myself.
Great video, I need to check this out!
Keep up the good work man. Love your content.
This mod looks really good ovs lost faction looks really good guided about Albion
Amazing!😀
Great review :D
This mod is awesome.
Hopefully they keep this mod into 3 and add Nippon and oge kingdoms sense where getting Cathay
Incredible mod
I hope Creative Assembly and Games Work Shop would release everyone in Total War: Warhammer 3.
GIVE ME JAPAN I MEAN NIPPION
How do you think the AI got all these settlements? Through Jihad.
I see you're a man of meme culture as well.
the problem is not with Creative Assembly per se but with Games Workshops "lazy" interpretation and implementation of a FANTASY Race that should be based mainly around arabic cultures.
What I mean with that is, the "Araby" faction is incredibly uninspired. It begins with the name for the Faction...."Araby", thats like calling the Empire "Germania" or Bretonnia "Francy" or High Elves "Great Bretonians" or something like that. A trained Monkey could come up with something better then that.
Then the Units themselves, they are mostly just historic arabic units which would be fine if this was a historic Total War Game but this is supposed to be "High" Fantasy so they should have put a little bit more actual creativity in it.
A counterexample for this would be Lizardmen, who are obviously based on old Inca/Maya cultures. They have been done perfectly well and although the cultural background is visible it has more then enough fantasy elements in it to be considered a "Fantasy Faction". Same could be said about Orcs, who are roughly the representation of what Europeans were regarding the Hun Hordes back in the days when they were a big threat.
Araby is by no means the only "uninspired" Faction they implemented, Bretonnia (which at first I thought was a "Mod" for a "Monty Phytonesque" joke faction...imagine my "shock" when I realized it was a lore faction) is also too far away from the overall style of Warhammer for my taste. Then there is "Nippon" (literally what the japanese call "Japan" in their language....so they just called their "fantasy" faction "Japan". Thats laziness bordering on "criminal") which I expect will be quite similar to Araby with Samurais and all.
Lets face it, Araby is just not interesting enough in the Warhammer World for most people. Maybe they will implement it at some point but only after they have implemented EVERYTHING ELSE. Just ask people which Faction they would rather prefer to have implemented first, Araby or ANY OTHER and you will know why they are not coming.
P.S. Just to make sure, it is NOT because people dislike arabic culture or something like that but because Games Workshop did a sh*tty job implementing them into their fantasy universe!
id rather see them implemented as a kind of horde, since they are nomadic i guess, and also bc they otherwise take up the cities where otherwise other factions from lore might be
correct me if i am wrong please
They have an actual empire with cities and stuff, which they need as traders.
For the taking up space thing, that shouldn't matter since CA could just make more.
Any Tips on how to Actually Play Araby?
is there a way to install only araby? without OVN. i dont need the other factions.
Is araby a good or bad faction
Is a neutral leaning to good I´d say. Araby got tricked to launch a massive invasion to the Old World by the Skaven. Making them villains in that set. But I´d say there were anti-villains as they were tricked by the Skaven.
Now they are a shadow of their former self they are very similar to Tilea in that it´s a formation of City-states with different backgrounds. Plus the slavery. But then their slave trade is not as bad as the Dark Elves, and Arabyans trade with slavery because it´s part of their economy and just that, not because "We izz evulz" like the Dark Elves also do.
Then they are next door to Tomb Kings and they get r-ped by them. But again, depends of the sub-faction/city in Araby; because other Arabyans revere and help the Tomb Kings.
@@andresr.viguera9791 thanks:)
@JoJo is not an anime the empire turned it's back on them?
@JoJo is not an anime yea but it became the imperium of man
@JoJo is not an anime thier water was poisoned .
what a lazy writing to end the series.
Future VC/Arab Legendary Lord?!?
Settra will conquer them
Do chaos dwarfs!
TWW Fanbase: Araby when?
CA: Never, sorry
Modders: Fine, I'll do it myself
also
"or any other supplements such as warhammer fantasy roleplay"
Warmaster: Am I a joke to you?
doesn't total war warhammer not take place in any specific time, as Repanse de Lyonesse is dead for a long time?
It takes place a few years after Karl's coronation however it can be considered it's down timeline hence Repanse, Azhag, Vlad etc still being alive
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges They said it's like Super Smash Bros, so could include everything!
Where did they show the golden magus dead
Trailer for Vampire Coast when they show the map
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges the release trailer at 1:48? I can't make out what it says with he anchor. Also the guy is saying the Vengeance, markus wulfharts ship was sunk and he's alive so maybe there's some hope left after all.
Either way help me find the part you're talking about I'm genuinely interested lol
Edit - found it at 2:31
And it was Jakob wulfhart... Maybe that was a hint for the next dlc?
Araby seems to conflict with Expanded Tomb Kings mod, which is a shame. Turn 40 always crashes on Araby with that mod.
Does anyone know what was insensitive about Araby? I know that the pygmys were quite bad, but I haven't heard about Araby
So basically at the start of GW writing lore they weren't very good at it (they still aren't but that's neither here nor there)
Rather than creating original concepts for WHFB they took our own world and changed it to fit a new Fantasy world. Many different peoples from our own world were therefore represented which added some flavour to the lore itself. The issue was that racial stereotyping was also included into this lore
The reason is that GW are lazy and didn't ever bother to write Araby's lore aside from obvious "crusades" borrowing from real history.
Even tho they unintentionally set up a stage for a potentially interesting human faction, which is true neutral and thus susceptible to both order and chaos.
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges Thanks for answering
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges just like Kislev is a land of kvas-and-vodka-drinking bear-riding thriwing-in-winter mix of slavs and mongols on the east of civilized world?..
(No racial stereotypes at all)
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges But is ridicolous if we see it in a reasonable way. Everything in Warhammer is a parody of real life civilizations. Why is Araby controversial but Bretonnia which is a mockery of Medieval France (with scorning accents included) or The Empire a joke of Holy Roman Empire are not controversial?
Man make a video for belisarians
It's on the list 😊
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges ty, its a Great mode cause add some Great mechanics (some really broken) and a really good units like the dragon with a cannon XD
Meanwhile in the Kasbah: ua-cam.com/video/0pCFVX6lzHU/v-deo.html
Why the araby lords look like Indians and not Arabs????
Because both of them are Indo-European?
@@Prushinthespirit No i mean why araby lord s and heroes look like Indians and Persian and Ottomans but none of them look like Arabs
It´s more because the limitations of the mod. If you look closer to the other factions it happens the same: the resolution level is lower than the proper official factions (blame CA for limitating the potential of the mods).
@@buhamdi2_kwt541 because that's basically how most of the people see stereotypical arabs. Before a massive reskin arabyan sheikh wore white robe and was a reskin of king Louen. And that looked kinda dumb.
Lol. I know what you mean, but there is no one uniform Arab look. Like someone said they can range from gingers to olive Italian looking to brown to black African.
Insensitive my ass. I might as well be offended by the tomb kings cause I’m Egyptian. People need to get over themselves
Oh how clever. Divide one mod into series to gain more views?..
Araby tho is probably the most well-done faction in this mod for now. The best thing about it is its duality, an ability to choose between being enforcer of the order and bringer of Chaos (build a chaos portal in Bel-Aliad). Albion and Halflings could also rival if their starting positions didn't suck this much.
Or rather not make a 2 hour long video when audience retention on YT is generally on average 10 mins?
@@TheGreatBookofGrudges yeah, sounds like a typical UA-cam audience.
Yeah, the first 20-40 turns of an Albion campaign are quite boring, you're basically trapped on Albion, which is a shame because their roster and faction mechanics are awesome
@@bandtown8587 i know right? Makes me understand why only Truthsayers do actually leave this piece of land. You need from 3 to 5 turns to just reach any continent, while also not being immune to sea attrition.
Also, I don't quite understand the point of their waystone mechanic, except for being lore-friendly. You basically place island under the constant (every couple of turns) threat of being flooded by a tide of high-tier dark elven stacks with little to no benefits from it.
@@Prushinthespirit Is that the building that says 'high threat of invasion' ? because in my playthrough I never built that lol. It seemed way too risky, so I agree it seems fairly pointless. It hurts me though because I love the roster. It's really fun to play with the fenhulk's and the giants and stone thrower giants etc. So it's a shame that the campaign is so grindy and jank.
Why are you speaking so slow?