To ss indeed true they don't sell watches they sell story. Actually i have seen all the vids of these channels they hardly talk mints about watch specifications in 8 min vid rest of the minutes is story and how old it's is. Cuz This so called luxury watches has only few features and cost fortune.
Heheh as beat up as that Rolex is it is actually the better example between the two. You can tell the Rolex is pretty uniformly old and beat up compared to the omega where the patina on the dial doesn't match the hands and bezel so it's not all original
Tanvir Molla yeah but thats what makes this chanel interesting; a quick google search will reveal specs and every watch almost has a dozen UA-cam videos that talk specs and how it feels on the wrist, Watchfinder does something unique. Thats why most of us subscribe and wait with enthusiasm for their next video.
I think the Omega 300 would be far more iconic had they not tweaked the design aesthetic so often. (And I'm an Omega fan.) The early models are classics.
i am a omega collector ad been for a long time. but i am sick and tired of them hoping limited edition every other day. i started to move toward rolex.
Agreed. Maintain the overall 300 design throughout the following decade and keep the Ploprof in production during that same time too and Omega would have had a watch easily identifiable to them. And never get into quartz during that blasted revolution!
I love my new Seamaster with the silver crazy wavy dial! My first watch as a lover of these videos, I turned in my Seiko for a while for this beautiful piece of art. Your videos have made me addicted to your world and I love it! Thanks my friend.
Omega as always, arrived late to present to the public what the public asks, on the other hand, Rolex, once again presents to the public what the public asks for quickly, and as always, with an unbeatable marketing! I prefer the quality of an Omega.
The Omega dial is much more visually appealing to me so I'd go Seamaster. It is nice to see a Rolex used to that level of 'patina.' Someone actually used that watch for what it is instead of a status symbol. I find that very refreshing to see.
I have had my Omega for 18 years from Jonashop when Amazon began to sell more than books. It has never been serviced and looses no more than 2 sec a day. I have taken it to 155 ft depth when I was a wreck diver. One pass of my underwater flashlight and the glow on the dial and hands lasted all night.
I love my Omega. The company is rich with history. And they don't try to ride the market with limiting sports watches. Rolex is irresponsible by trying to pinch the availability of their sports watches to the public. As a result, they try to justify the increase in prices for their sport watches.
Everything about omega is superior from the beginning and even today but somehow the Rolex tired and boring design because it’s more about status than quality is so popular.
Omega for me for shear engineering and looks. If my life depended on exact time keeping the latest 2018 Omega Seamaster 300m is the watch I would put it in. This is sure to become a classic, it makes the Submariner look a bit "so what " by it's now boring look, only thing holding it up in the market is the Crown logo. I expect Rolex within the next two years to change the Sub slightly to make it not only a working tool, but a classy working tool like the Seamaster 300m. Love to see the two oldies, as you can see the pedigree of the two watches, and wonder what have they done and seen.
First LOVE your channel you’re becoming the Hodinkee of UA-cam. But I would love to see a more in-depth review for the Omega least talked about models like the AT, GM, and Constellation.
I have a fully complete 1967 5513 on period-correct riveted bracelet, and a fully complete 1963 165.024 on 1506 period-correct bracelet, witn original naiad crown - both in impeccable condition. The Omega probably in absolutely exceptional condition. The Rolex outplays the Omega with its screwdown crown. However, the 165.024 case design and bezel are surreal, making me think of old Cadillac tailfin body design. It is revolutionary, spectacular. Which takes the Omega to a different level for me in terms of emotion. My other grail is a 1967 321 Speedy on a 1450, and the one I would dream to add would be a 1950s Rolex 6542 - with original radium-bakelite bezel - but that is not within my budget so it remains just a dream. I never had one in my hands.
I believe the Zodiac Sea Wolf dive watch also debuted as a production model in 1953. They rightly share the crown with Blancpain as the first modern dive watch.
Lovely vid. I cant recall the hands on a gen1 Seamaster 300, But with that specific hand set I consider that the Military Specification and would compare that with the Rolex Mil Sub. WHICH even the MOD spec was basic on the Omega design. With Omega having the contract priory to Rolex.
Appreciate your style and scholarly approach. Now I will be hunting a vintage Seamaster, style featured. My daily is a Speedo. Learned a lot from your presentation, but not caught up in splitting hairs over tech specs, more motivated by quality and style. Give the nudge to Omega as to heritage. Regards, JP in LA
Well bar a Seiko Tuna (especialy a 2nd gen quartz) you can't really imagine a more different approach and tool like presentation than the Omega PloProf.
Two amazing beauties, two amazing brands and 2 legends. I would LOVE to own these 2 references, the most I could afford was a 1680 and a 1990s Seamaster
Omega was the first milsub , rolex 5517 came after . They were cheaper to buy bulk so the navy replaced omega with rolex 5517 . Which had problems with the backs rusting onto the cases , hence later the stainless was replaced with 914L .to solve the problem ,
You made this very interesting and informative. Thank you, you know what you are talking about. And now I know more about two very interesting watches.
Omega could play the same unavailable waiting queue game to control the market or just throw some ”new” bones and let the used market does the marketing/branding/hype job and resell those old bones but they wouldn’t innovate going forward or still be modern/relevant. It’s a different approach. Imagine putting your name and waiting for the first iPhone in 2020 because it was sold out in 07 and Apple still couldn’t “keep up with the demand” ....
Considering this is the best watch channel they could have used an all original 300. I think the 165.024 is the epitome of the dive watch, just look at how many other brands have copied it in 55 years
Rolex is doing it wrong in some areas these days. In my opinion every every sports rolex should include glide lock clasp not just sub and sea dweller. Maybe they will in 10 years... And latest rolex designs are little bit too much, increasing diameters and including maxi dials just to have more wrist presence ruined perfect balance (which previous models had) and to me it feels it was just wrong move... I like Rolex but these days I dont know... They just don’t want to make it how it should be just to leave room for future intentional upgrades... But then again they are huge company selling around 1 million watches per year so if they make perfect product what would they sell next year... Its a long discussion. Great video as always! Peace
You simply can’t compare Ω, with the “crown” . Even though literally Master the Speed,Sea,Sky, the Rolex chaps are doing a fantastic job on promotion, and Master the market..... Thank you again for this amazing video. Cheers.
I've always felt that Omega's 2254.50 (made for a relatively short time) was a classic refresh of the second generation 300 Seamaster featured here. Of all the watches I've worn and collected over the years, this is likely my favorite.
I like the vintage rolex but don't know how they hold their value with newer models the second hand market is flooded any jeweller has a dozen to choose from while other brands are more difficult to get
Omega Seamaster 300 abandoned this classic design for the newer scalloped bezel which I grew up with, while Rolex was steadfast in keeping it's classic design.
Being the first doesn't mean that it's the best just that it dictates the general direction of the genre. I think that's lost on a lot of people. Plus it was nice to see the Rolex all beaten up it lived the life it was intended to. After all its a tool watch. Definitely not the property of a desk diver 😂.
I like this omega design over the modern one. The modern one is so close to rolex, and the closer it the farer distance between rolex and omega in favor the former.
Is it me? Or have Omega standards fallen so low that it is no longer that important. What am I ranting on about, the Omega symbol in the cristal glasses, watching these videos, I've yet to find one set correctly, the devil has always been in the detail. When I worked for Omega in their service centres in Saffron Hill in London and later in Eastleigh in Hampshire, one of my roles was quality control. A watch with its crystal even a fraction out of line would fail and be returned to the watchmaker who worked on it. The same with the case back and the buckle on the strap or the clasp, if a bracelet, each Omega symbol had to match the one on the dial; the only exception would be a screw back. While I was in the case section, responsible for the cleaning, refinishing and water resistance of each case sent in for repair; it was my job to ensure the crystal was set spot on. It breaks my heart to see the slapdash appearance of the watches shown in thee videos, have Omegas standards dropped so low?
I think it’s less to do with the design and and more to do with Rolex’ marketing. Simply putting it on Jack Cousteau’s wrist was probably enough to get the job done. And if it was a matter of who came first, then Blancpain would have been the winner. With its earlier-released fifty Fathoms and its 250 year heritage.
I can respect Rolex while simultaneously noting that they are quite a bore. Older, newer, etc. I can't get excited by any of them. But boy can they create a brand and a market. The thing they do third best is build interesting time pieces. They can build a brand and do marketing better.
Omega could not reach the water resistance reliability that Rolex had since Oyster cases were introduced. This has been, from my point of view, the main reason for Rolex longer lasting vintage watches.
For all the reasons you mention, form over function, a proper tool to do the job etc , the submariner wins hands down.. which is why it’s the most iconic, easily recognisable watch ever made..
"Tool to do a job" ? At 10 000 euros , and it can tell the time if you set it? Come on ... we all buy watches because are beautiful and well engineered .
What I think: is that if Jean Jack Coustau would pick a watch from today's world he would have picked up a high end G-Shock, just like nowadays ocean going masters do
I don’t think it’s a matter of Omega deserving more acclaim than Rolex, sometimes a thing is just done right or better than the opposition. Other times it’s just luck. Rolex got lucky with the ocean and Omega went to the moon. Both are great brands, and should be judged individually as both make outstanding watches. I would love to own a Submariner and a Planet Ocean. Both are wonderful time pieces.
8 minutes long video 1 min of specifications briefing rest 7 mins of history. Moral of the story you are paying for History behind it. Not paying for perfection. And do ppl really care for some seconds ?
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Did someone try to scrub the floor with that submariner?
To ss indeed true they don't sell watches they sell story. Actually i have seen all the vids of these channels they hardly talk mints about watch specifications in 8 min vid rest of the minutes is story and how old it's is. Cuz This so called luxury watches has only few features and cost fortune.
Heheh as beat up as that Rolex is it is actually the better example between the two. You can tell the Rolex is pretty uniformly old and beat up compared to the omega where the patina on the dial doesn't match the hands and bezel so it's not all original
Benefits of a shitty acrylic face
Hahahahajahajajaha
Tanvir Molla yeah but thats what makes this chanel interesting; a quick google search will reveal specs and every watch almost has a dozen UA-cam videos that talk specs and how it feels on the wrist, Watchfinder does something unique. Thats why most of us subscribe and wait with enthusiasm for their next video.
I think the Omega 300 would be far more iconic had they not tweaked the design aesthetic so often. (And I'm an Omega fan.) The early models are classics.
I think the new 300 with the 8900 movement is a really good move forward, but not keen on the lume on the rotating bezel.
i am a omega collector ad been for a long time. but i am sick and tired of them hoping limited edition every other day. i started to move toward rolex.
Agreed. Maintain the overall 300 design throughout the following decade and keep the Ploprof in production during that same time too and Omega would have had a watch easily identifiable to them. And never get into quartz during that blasted revolution!
I love my new Seamaster with the silver crazy wavy dial! My first watch as a lover of these videos, I turned in my Seiko for a while for this beautiful piece of art. Your videos have made me addicted to your world and I love it! Thanks my friend.
Dude, your videos are straight horology porn
Don't know why, but Omega has my sympathy.
That Rolex is inspiring me to rough up my Seiko on asphalt.
You would have a damaged Seiko then. To what end, throw it in the trash can, where it belongs?!
The Seiko offers more value for the money.
Omega as always, arrived late to present to the public what the public asks, on the other hand, Rolex, once again presents to the public what the public asks for quickly, and as always, with an unbeatable marketing! I prefer the quality of an Omega.
The Omega dial is much more visually appealing to me so I'd go Seamaster. It is nice to see a Rolex used to that level of 'patina.' Someone actually used that watch for what it is instead of a status symbol. I find that very refreshing to see.
Well this was well before Rolex had the brand image that it does now. Watches were seen far less as a luxury and more as an instrument or tool
Andy, I thoroughly agree!
Rolex = toolwatch ... ever seen a COMEX dial Seamaster ?
I have had my Omega for 18 years from Jonashop when Amazon began to sell more than books. It has never been serviced and looses no more than 2 sec a day. I have taken it to 155 ft depth when I was a wreck diver. One pass of my underwater flashlight and the glow on the dial and hands lasted all night.
I vote for Seamaster 300.
Excellent video, thank you! I lean towards the vintage Sub every time. It's such an iconic watch.
Omega >rolex am I the only one?
no you are not ..
hell yeah all day everyday
People resent rolex , for good reason
I love my Omega. The company is rich with history. And they don't try to ride the market with limiting sports watches. Rolex is irresponsible by trying to pinch the availability of their sports watches to the public. As a result, they try to justify the increase in prices for their sport watches.
They're both great, but I also prefer the Omega.
So similar but a patient look at the dial and you see so many differences, thank you for the upload!
Everything about omega is superior from the beginning and even today but somehow the Rolex tired and boring design because it’s more about status than quality is so popular.
Omega for me for shear engineering and looks. If my life depended on exact time keeping the latest 2018 Omega Seamaster 300m is the watch I would put it in. This is sure to become a classic, it makes the Submariner look a bit "so what " by it's now boring look, only thing holding it up in the market is the Crown logo. I expect Rolex within the next two years to change the Sub slightly to make it not only a working tool, but a classy working tool like the Seamaster 300m. Love to see the two oldies, as you can see the pedigree of the two watches, and wonder what have they done and seen.
Great history of 2 iconic divers and companies. The comparison with F1 cars was spot on, accurate.!
Thanks for sharing this wonderful content.!!🕔😎
Exaactly!
Once again, excellent video, thank you, Watchfinder.
I love my Omega Speedmaster, but always find myself walking into the Rolex boutiques to try on Submariners...two different watches that have my heart.
Please do a video on the Rolex Datejust
The Omega is the nicer watch
it is nicer...
Always have been a big Omega fan... this specific model is so beautiful ❤️❤️
First LOVE your channel you’re becoming the Hodinkee of UA-cam. But I would love to see a more in-depth review for the Omega least talked about models like the AT, GM, and Constellation.
I have a fully complete 1967 5513 on period-correct riveted bracelet, and a fully complete 1963 165.024 on 1506 period-correct bracelet, witn original naiad crown - both in impeccable condition. The Omega probably in absolutely exceptional condition. The Rolex outplays the Omega with its screwdown crown. However, the 165.024 case design and bezel are surreal, making me think of old Cadillac tailfin body design. It is revolutionary, spectacular. Which takes the Omega to a different level for me in terms of emotion. My other grail is a 1967 321 Speedy on a 1450, and the one I would dream to add would be a 1950s Rolex 6542 - with original radium-bakelite bezel - but that is not within my budget so it remains just a dream. I never had one in my hands.
I believe the Zodiac Sea Wolf dive watch also debuted as a production model in 1953. They rightly share the crown with Blancpain as the first modern dive watch.
The Omega seems to have been serviced and have it’s hands and crystal replaced.
the case too
And the crown
And the bezel
franken
Do you think the case was replaced or polished?
another cracking upload. quality as usual thanks
Lovely vid. I cant recall the hands on a gen1 Seamaster 300,
But with that specific hand set I consider that the Military Specification and would compare that with the Rolex Mil Sub.
WHICH even the MOD spec was basic on the Omega design. With Omega having the contract priory to Rolex.
Appreciate your style and scholarly approach. Now I will be hunting a vintage Seamaster, style featured. My daily is a Speedo. Learned a lot from your presentation, but not caught up in splitting hairs over tech specs, more motivated by quality and style. Give the nudge to Omega as to heritage. Regards, JP in LA
Nice. I actually like both brands without prejudice.
Nice video mate!
Well bar a Seiko Tuna (especialy a 2nd gen quartz) you can't really imagine a more different approach and tool like presentation than the Omega PloProf.
Very beautiful timepieces! Thank you.
Submariner > Seamaster
Speedmaster Professional > Cosmograph Daytona
Two amazing beauties, two amazing brands and 2 legends. I would LOVE to own these 2 references, the most I could afford was a 1680 and a 1990s Seamaster
I only watch your videos for watch reviews and opinions. Hodinkee is a bit boring and snobbish now. Thank you for sharing your videos. - D
Omega was the first milsub , rolex 5517 came after . They were cheaper to buy bulk so the navy replaced omega with rolex 5517 . Which had problems with the backs rusting onto the cases , hence later the stainless was replaced with 914L .to solve the problem ,
#seamastersquad
You made this very interesting and informative. Thank you, you know what you are talking about. And now I know more about two very interesting watches.
Omega could play the same unavailable waiting queue game to control the market or just throw some ”new” bones and let the used market does the marketing/branding/hype job and resell those old bones but they wouldn’t innovate going forward or still be modern/relevant. It’s a different approach.
Imagine putting your name and waiting for the first iPhone in 2020 because it was sold out in 07 and Apple still couldn’t “keep up with the demand” ....
Can we get the latest Submariner and Seamaster 300 comparison? That would be great!
Your videos are too good not to be in 4K!!
Another great informative video.
Considering this is the best watch channel they could have used an all original 300. I think the 165.024 is the epitome of the dive watch, just look at how many other brands have copied it in 55 years
Rolex is doing it wrong in some areas these days.
In my opinion every every sports rolex should include glide lock clasp not just sub and sea dweller. Maybe they will in 10 years...
And latest rolex designs are little bit too much, increasing diameters and including maxi dials just to have more wrist presence ruined perfect balance (which previous models had) and to me it feels it was just wrong move...
I like Rolex but these days I dont know...
They just don’t want to make it how it should be just to leave room for future intentional upgrades...
But then again they are huge company selling around 1 million watches per year so if they make perfect product what would they sell next year...
Its a long discussion.
Great video as always! Peace
Can anyone tell me why the printed circle on the bezel on many divers is aluminium?
Would love tp see a comparison between a vintage Daytona and a Speedmaster
You simply can’t compare Ω, with the “crown” . Even though literally Master the Speed,Sea,Sky, the Rolex chaps are doing a fantastic job on promotion, and Master the market.....
Thank you again for this amazing video.
Cheers.
If omega brings back that model , might be more appealingto get one, the current doesn't make you close the deal, classic never gets old.
I've always felt that Omega's 2254.50 (made for a relatively short time) was a classic refresh of the second generation 300 Seamaster featured here. Of all the watches I've worn and collected over the years, this is likely my favorite.
Bit of an unfair comparison. Mint Omega (apart from the hands) vs. a Rolex with a damaged service dial :/
Omega must re-issue the second generation Seamaster 300! It will be an absolute stunner.
I like the vintage rolex but don't know how they hold their value with newer models the second hand market is flooded any jeweller has a dozen to choose from while other brands are more difficult to get
Am I the only one noticed the Rolex is way off mark in time keeping? :P
Love that Omega...
My grandad has that exact type of omega
Why are the second hands out of sync at times , it’s freaking me out lol
A vintage Seamaster 300 is the most beautiful watch in the world.
Omega Seamaster 300 abandoned this classic design for the newer scalloped bezel which I grew up with, while Rolex was steadfast in keeping it's classic design.
If only Rolex went back to these lugs, but with their current quality of construction
Being the first doesn't mean that it's the best just that it dictates the general direction of the genre. I think that's lost on a lot of people. Plus it was nice to see the Rolex all beaten up it lived the life it was intended to. After all its a tool watch. Definitely not the property of a desk diver 😂.
Why compare? There're plenty of choices from the others can offer.
For some reason I don’t find divers attractive, however I loved the review of both these 👌🏼
I have a Seamaster 300 year 1967
I like this omega design over the modern one. The modern one is so close to rolex, and the closer it the farer distance between rolex and omega in favor the former.
Could you review the Seiko Le Grand Sport SSC644P?
Ahh, why?!
That must be James Bond's original watch, looks like its been on more than a few missions...
difference ...years of more successful marketing
Reporting in!
Is it me? Or have Omega standards fallen so low that it is no longer that important. What am I ranting on about, the Omega symbol in the cristal glasses, watching these videos, I've yet to find one set correctly, the devil has always been in the detail. When I worked for Omega in their service centres in Saffron Hill in London and later in Eastleigh in Hampshire, one of my roles was quality control. A watch with its crystal even a fraction out of line would fail and be returned to the watchmaker who worked on it. The same with the case back and the buckle on the strap or the clasp, if a bracelet, each Omega symbol had to match the one on the dial; the only exception would be a screw back. While I was in the case section, responsible for the cleaning, refinishing and water resistance of each case sent in for repair; it was my job to ensure the crystal was set spot on. It breaks my heart to see the slapdash appearance of the watches shown in thee videos, have Omegas standards dropped so low?
I think it’s less to do with the design and and more to do with Rolex’ marketing. Simply putting it on Jack Cousteau’s wrist was probably enough to get the job done. And if it was a matter of who came first, then Blancpain would have been the winner. With its earlier-released fifty Fathoms and its 250 year heritage.
Is it me or does time not advance in the way it used to? Also….......Polywatch?
I can respect Rolex while simultaneously noting that they are quite a bore. Older, newer, etc. I can't get excited by any of them. But boy can they create a brand and a market. The thing they do third best is build interesting time pieces. They can build a brand and do marketing better.
I like the omega better
They should remake this Omega watch
Omega could not reach the water resistance reliability that Rolex had since Oyster cases were introduced. This has been, from my point of view, the main reason for Rolex longer lasting vintage watches.
How about a little history on Doxa?
For all the reasons you mention, form over function, a proper tool to do the job etc , the submariner wins hands down.. which is why it’s the most iconic, easily recognisable watch ever made..
Tha omega is a beautiful piece
Wow, that Sub is in mint condition...
Mint++
Both watches are unique in their own way, but the Submariner is the most successful diver watch, even maybe the most popular watch of all time.
Good Point, finally got why the seamaster is, until this day the more beautiful watch: it was MEANT to be...
The Omega has been done up. New hands, bezel and crystal.
Shared 200 metres?
i love omega's twisted lugs they make my day but vintage rolex is something very special
The sub looks so much better without the bullet hole that is their date window.
"Tool to do a job" ? At 10 000 euros , and it can tell the time if you set it? Come on ... we all buy watches because are beautiful and well engineered .
I´d take that Seamaster over the Sub...IF... the Hands and Crystal would be original.
So: Rolex = Basic, wildly overpriced ; Omega = Unnecessarily complex.
Yep, about sums it up.
That Sub looks rough / very well used ..
Hey, Watchfinder Guy. You should be doing the Tour de France sponsorship messages, not some actor. Have a word.
have you seen the new nose on the mclarens, that's quite different from the rest.
That sub is gorgeous ❤️
I wear an Omega Seamaster 600 Planet Ocean (39 mm). I wouldn't trade it for a Submariner so I guess that's my vote.
that's the one i want! I got the SM300 and that 39mm is my next one.
that rolex looks likes it’s been through it! refreshing to see.
What I think: is that if Jean Jack Coustau would pick a watch from today's world he would have picked up a high end G-Shock, just like nowadays ocean going masters do
I don’t think it’s a matter of Omega deserving more acclaim than Rolex, sometimes a thing is just done right or better than the opposition. Other times it’s just luck. Rolex got lucky with the ocean and Omega went to the moon. Both are great brands, and should be judged individually as both make outstanding watches. I would love to own a Submariner and a Planet Ocean. Both are wonderful time pieces.
It's the advantage of new comers to play games without too much burden. Interestingly I always found Omega win my heart and Rolex win my money...
Some sort of excuse for Omega copying Rolex perhaps?
8 minutes long video 1 min of specifications briefing rest 7 mins of history. Moral of the story you are paying for History behind it. Not paying for perfection. And do ppl really care for some seconds ?
For me Speedmaster>Daytona but Submariner>Seamaster
I'm still waiting for the heaven master and the hell master lmao.