The BIG Problem With Tiana’s Bayou Adventure
Вставка
- Опубліковано 14 бер 2024
- Disney fans are torn over Tiana's Bayou Adventure! Some are thrilled to see Princess Tiana get her own ride, while others are mourning the loss of Splash Mountain. In this video, we'll dive into the reasons behind the controversy: Was Splash Mountain really offensive? Is the new theme an appropriate update?
Thanks so much for watching! Wanna watch another one? Dive into Disney's worst attraction update of all time -- The Enchanted Tiki Room Under New Management: • Disney's Worst Attract...
We love making these videos, and we are so thankful that you are here watching them. Please consider joining our growing band of Dis-nerds by subscribing to CloverLoop!
#TianasBayouAdventure #DisneyWorld #Disneyland
personally im super upset because splash mountain was really fun and atmospheric due to its very dense show scenes, i couldnt possibly care less about the song of the south ip, and i think racism in any form is intolerable. that being said, the ride has hardly ANY actual connection to the movie, and they could have very easily just replaced the brer animatronics with unlicensed character designs. this ride went from 76 animatronics to 16, that is nothing short of a travesty, its practically going to be a six flags ride. this combined with the confusing storyline and also the removal of that extremely iconic silhouette with the tree, reducing it to a strange brown lump just sucks. they could have just gotten rid of the characters from the movie but instead they gut it for no reason and try to play it off as something exciting. the actual ceo of the company said the ride was boring yet theyre gonna open it as is anyways, the only actual draw the ride has is that the tiana animatronic seems pretty impressive, but was it worth losing 60 for? i doubt it.
The "brown lump" is going to be Mama Odie's tree boat. Have a little patience.
You haven't even ridden it yet, calm down.
I'm sorry, everyone on both sides are taking things way too serious. It's a ride. If you don't update the rides from time to time it gets stale and dated, but the basic ride is still the same. For me the biggest issue would be the overcrowding and waiting 300 minutes for a ten minute ride as well as needing a bank loan to take the family for a day out.
I wonder if this updated ride will have more or less capacity then the old one now that you bring it up. Will be interesting to see if they somehow messed it up and it has even less capacity. Personally I’m just hoping they don’t butcher my states culture and manage to produce a ride that can hopefully reduce congestion in the parks while providing a satisfying ride though the loss of the previous attraction in my mind still a sad affair.
Agree ❤ but also i love tiana but i am going to hate the drops smh. But I did the original rides. So i wish to Agree she had another ride. But bc it is tiana i will ride it 2 n that's it lol.
This isn’t an update. Splash mountain simply did not need this rebranding it’s still the most popular even when it’s closed now. It should had been repaired instead.
You could say this with any other ride such as tiki room, haunted mansion, and pirates, their all way older than splash and have huge followings, splash shouldnt have been replaced since all of the updates just sound like complete downgrades to splash
I hope they don't do virtual queue for this. People need to cool not miss a virtual queue
From people who road a preview of the ride and said it was “rainforest cafe the ride” things don’t sound good
The Rainforest Cafe in Galveston, TX actually has a ride 😂
Splash in no way was offensive at all, its literally lightly based on the animated portions and on the tales of brer rabbit, you cant even relate it song of the south since none of the ride is even paralled to the film when outside of the brers none of the other critters appeared in the film. Everything your mentioning about racism with splash and the assumptions is so dumb.
I loved splash for the critters, the brers, and the songs and scenery its so dumb for you to assume everybody whos angry about this is racist when thats not even the case, even if it would have been replaced by something else like sword in the stone, lion king, or hercules we still would have been pissed. Its only the few right leaning conservatives who made it political who arent even splash fans that made it about race.
Most of us splash fans are sad because our favorite characters arent being featured literally anywhere else, the music is banned, and the other critters are too obscure to be featured outside the attraction were sad and angry that a ride we loved is gone as it was a happy piece of our lives. We hope the critters come back in some form like in a new America Sings but we doubt it will since their associated with splash now sadly.
And were angry that not one, but BOTH of them are gone, if it was only one we would have been fine but because both are gone its a good reason to be angry. And sure Tokyo still has theirs, but its much less accessable to travel there yearly than to disneyland/disneyworld.
We are also bitter because disney, the disney fandom, and general public now dismisses splash mountain as if it was the second 911. Splash fans dont really have a place in the fandom anymore which just feels terrible.
And when you add up the amount of animatronics that will be scrapped its around 180 all togethor, its sucks since they most likely wont keep any of the animatronics either, splash fans literally get nothing out of this no easter egg, last memorabilia, or any animatronics that stay its literally a huge lowblow for splash mountain.
Splash should have stayed and disney should have created a brand new original Tiana ride for her.
RIP Splash Mountain. Still wish we could've just gotten an extensive refurbishment of the original attraction than completely retheme it. I'm sure the retheme will be fine but I have so many memories of riding Splash Mountain whenever my family would go 5-7 times at the end of the day when no one was in line and the songs and characters are so memorable to me. It's hard to get rid of a theme that I have so many fond memories of.
You can make new memories, and the music from the Princess and the Frog movie is actually pretty good.
The biggest problem.
If it's only as good as Splash Mt. What was the point.
You took the highest rated ride at WDW most years off line for over a year when you desperately need additional capacity.
Most likely, it won't be as good. Based on Disney's recent projects.
Highest rated? Citation please, otherwise you’re making sh*t up.
Abackus - can you cite that it's not? If not then hold off on an accusatory finger point.
@@justintime1234 if he’s gonna make a bogus claim like that, he should back it up. He can’t. But nice try in coming to his rescue.
@@abackus6546 ok so you can prove that it's bogus? Please and thank you for letting us know your cited reference so I can look it up. I am excited to see where you get your information from.
Waiting.....
@@justintime1234 go back and reread. I did not make any claim. User above claims splash mountain is the “highest rated” attraction at Walt Disney world. Highest rated according to what/who? This wasn’t supposed to be a debate. He hasn’t given any clarification or citation while meanwhile you’re on here embarrassing yourself.
I lost confidence in disney after webslingers. Splash mountain wasn't racist, song of the south was. All they have to do is make a mini series, or an animated movie utilizing the characters that are acutally on the ride, because they already have a skeleton of a plot laid out for them. would've been way cheaper, and would've made everyone happy.
Thank you for telling me I "felt the grief of loss without understanding what those emotions were". My family and I loved this ride because of the spectacle and the songs. Please do not tell us that we don't understand our own feelings - you're not qualified to do that.
The reason you're not going to see Ray the Firefly should be fairly obvious if you've seen the movie.
Not many people have seen the movie. Including me
well if they threw in two big stars somewhere I guess lol
How about Disney stops re-skinning rides and re-invest the BILLIONS they make from the parks every year into new attractions instead? Disney keeps taking their park profits (the only truly profitable division of their business) and spending it on making garbage movies and tv shows for Disney+. We've entered the post-Disney era. Let the boomers have their nostalgia while the next generations have fun in Super Nintendo World. It's been fun Disney...
REAL u know what's up
I agree! It's not like they don't have the money or space for new rides to be built! First Splash Mountain, now It's Tough To Be a Bug.
I just don’t understand this comment cause Disney has been building new rides and attractions often. They released the guardians of the galaxy ride, tron ride, that star wars ride a couple of years ago, so wtf are you talking about? Also Disney has rebranded their own rides multiple times so again wtf are you complaining about?
Replacing a classic ride with fantastic design is hard. I lived the multiple interesting scenes, characters and story line. How do your match it?
You don't try... you can't. So you just do different & hope for the best. What ever it becomes won't be the same no matter its theme!
For me, the bottom line is that Walt Disney (RIP) never wanted the parks to be a museum incased in ember but evolve and change with the times, and to me, that's what changes like this factor into.
I believe that personally the best would be a mix of the old and new. Focusing entirely on just making things constantly new can be taxing and also disregards history entirely. A balance between the two must be struck.
Agree ❤
Let's face it, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea has no relevance to most people today, on the other hand Little Mermaid is very popular. I agree that the transition should be gradual and possibly add new attractions, preserve old standards and update others. This allows old people like me to reminisce while enjoying the new with family.
I'm just tired of everything being about politics and sjw. If I go to the movies, a ballgame, or an amusement park, I'm trying to take a break from all of that and just enjoy myself for a bit.
I definitely agree. it is a 100-year-old company and honestly I think it’s a good idea when they update or try new things. As much as I will miss splash mountain, it’s not like the basis of the ride is gone. It is still a drop water ride. It just happens to be themed around a movie we’re honestly it makes sense to have a water ride. I’m personally excited for when it opens and I can’t wait to try it.😊
You could literally say this to any older dosney ride thats still operating like mr toad, dumbo, haunted mansion, pirates, tiki room, and autopia its not a good argument
???: So, how much money are you wasting on the re-theme?
Disney: No. Let’s go to the hobby lobby flower isle.
Disneys shooting themselves in the foot. Ugh.
I have no problem with Tiana. The problem I have is taking an existing successful attraction to switch it to make DEI quota. Let’s not BS about this. If princess and the frog was such a hit Tiana should have had a ride or experience done at that point.
What’s does DEI means
They should have re-themes it to Pocohantas! It would have been great, she even goes over a waterfall in the movie.
They might as well have kept it splash mountain if they were to have done that because Pocahontas is a pretty problematic story when you realize the actual story of Pocahontas
I love her and tiana ❤
Princess and the frog seems to be the theme that makes the most sense as splash mountain is next to New Orleans in Disneyland. And since it allready has the river log flume setting, changing it from a forest to a bayou would be easy. Also the original splash mountain has a steam boat. So it would be cool if they repourpous the boat as it fits in with the new Orleans setting
Yeah nah, they're not touching Pocahontas with a 10 foot pole, especially with how insulting that film is to the tribe still alive, where they've gone on record begging people to stop trying to retell that story.
I think native Americans get many things for free. Disney wants to appeal to the future majorities which will pay full price.
Changing a classic ride to a ride themed after a movie that came out like 15 years ago?
Wtf are they thinking?
Social media influencers weren't making videos about Splash Mountain, now were they?
DEI
I agree!
@@bbarber1974because if isn’t white it isn’t right huh?
Disney's first and ONLY BLACK PRINCESS (no, black Ariel don't count) is NO LONGER a princess. She has been demoted to FACTORY OWNER/LABOR SUPERVISOR. "No, little black girl, you can't be a princess but you can run a hot, miserable factor and try to avoid labor issues... isn't that nice?" Disney diversity. What a joke.
🤣
Lol
No, she’s still a princess. Also the main thing she wanted in the movie was to own her own restaurant, and you know what happened?
I have 1 major problem with Tianas new ride. I want an actual restaurant that overlooks the actual ride much like blue bayou or even that Mexican restaurant @ Epcott. A Cajun themed restaurant that overlooks part of the ride would be booked solid much like the other 2 mentioned above and it is a shame they are not doing it.
I grew up with song of the south, I will miss both the movie and splash mountain. A tiana ride is an awesome idea. But they are falling short on the potential! ADD A RESTAURANT.
Tiana is not only the first black princess in the offical princess brand line but she's also the last theatrical 2D princess so far. End of an era. This is a big deal for many reasons.
Also,
Ngl that new animatronic looks fantastic. So SO tired like many people are of the projected face animatronics. Glad to see this isn't one of those.
Those projected face animatronics are a sin against everything. Uncanny valley stuff as well as cheap and lazy.
Much respect ❤
They’ll have only 17 animatronics. Embarrassing, under planned and lazy. The photos of the ride are awful. It’s a tragedy that our Splash Mountain will probably be covered in screens. I won’t be surprised that animatronics don’t work like how the Na’vi one is.
Thank you for appreciating the significance of Tiana and her impact on the princess brand. She's a trailblazer!
splash mountain didnt mention slavery, etc. At all. It was clever to reuse characters who have true potential and put them to better use.If anything, song of the south should have just been forgotten and made into something new involving the animal characters themselves, with representation that is deemed appropriate. It would have costed less money to make a mini-story or series to revamp the story of the animals, than spend millions remaking a new ride that even a ceo said was straight up boring. Hell, it would have been less to just REPAIR the animatronics currently existing inside of it, or even have better reskins or furs put on them to make them more resistent to water.
Here's my take, as an ex-Disney CM and internet nobody. I don't like that they keep changing rides to recognisable IPs when that's the whole point. I feel like Tiana's is the least egregious of them all - the retheming of Maelstrom, Universe of Energy, and Test Track are far FAR worse. Splash was long overdue for a revamp because of all the reasons you said - it comes from a very racist, antiquated IP. It needed a refresh. I'm not even necessarily upset that they chose Tiana - though also as you pointed out, it's a better fit for Disneyland than Disney World. I wish they had done something different, more in line with the theming for DW Frontierland. Like, even the Pirates ride in Disneyland is more bayou themed - and that's great! I think, though, my biggest issue is that Splash was one of the three mountains - Space, Big Thunder, and Splash. Now it's Space, Big Thunder, and...Tiana's? It doesn't fit. I think they needed to keep the theming of that. Keep calling it Splash or something similar. (I will also point out that it's generally called Thunder rather than Big Thunder, so that still works).
Idk it just makes me worried for the rides that still don't have recognisable IPs attached. Will they update Space to something like that? Thunder? Ultimately, I think it's a tough one to really deal with because the reason Disney does these revamps is to increase interest and therefore sales. They feel they need to. Which is sad, but the reality of what it is. Disney is forgetting the purpose of the various parks. Epcot was all about learning so they need to stop replacing all of the educational experiences with movie ones. If you want to have movie-themed rides - stick them in Hollywood Studios! It's the most obvious choice yet they never do. Of all parks, Magic Kingdom is the most obvious to have the princess-related rides, but I'd much rather something built from the ground up (like the Ariel ride or new Snow White rollercoaster) than a replacement of something. Making Splash Tiana's isn't the worst choice, but it needed to have the same simple, catchy name as Splash and, really, an overall fit in the area. Maybe Tiana's should've been in Disneyland and DW could've had Pocahontas.
I agree!
#savecrittercountry #savewinniethepooh at #disneylandresort critter country isn’t going survive without song of the south & the many adventures of Winnie the Pooh ride #downwithtianasbayouadventure #savewinniethepooh
Don't forget bringing back The Country Bear Jamboree back to critter country
this retheme ride is going to suckass and it is going to look like Shit
Calling a movie racist just cause it depicts life in the past is inane
I REALLY DON’T HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL COMMENT, BUT I LIKED THE CHALLENGE OF WRITING SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS…. 😂😂😂
Lol 😂 i can't with u bc of he said.
best comment YET !
Best comment!
Haha first one too
Unbelievable. Let’s just try to change history.
Eventhough I have never been to a Disney park I can understand the feelings of the fans here.
In one of my local parks (Europapark, Germany) there once was an ride called "Abenteuerfloßfahrt"(adventure float ride) that was Safari themed. It had many beautiful scenes with animals and as a child I loved it. But bacause it tried to portray Africa and was built in a different time, it also had a few scenes with "african people" which were as problematic as you think. because of that, it was re-themed a few years ago, around 2018. It is now part of the Austrian themed area and has a girly "Sisi" theme ("Sisi" was an Austrian empress, she is a big part of popculture in the german speaking area).
Of course I know why they had to do this and that it is for the better as it is now, but I still miss the old ride.
I miss the jungle theme and the animatronic animals, I always will, but they will always be there in my memories.
And the memories you all have of Splash Mountain, will always stay with you as well. Missing something you enjoyed and loved is just natural, but change sometimes is unescapable.
I know it hurts but it will be okay, I promise!
(also, I am pretty sure that Tianas Bayou Adventure will be atleast better than the re-theme we got, so that could make it even a little bit easier for you than it was for me)
Thanks! Sorry they got rid of the ride you liked.
Many of the "facts" in this video are misleading and untrue.
real
Name one!?
@@apfelbasketLet’s start with him making assumptions about why fans are upset about the retheme. It can’t be because it was many people’s favorite attraction and thinking they could have added something new elsewhere instead of replacing it, no, there just HAS to be some malicious reason behind it according to this guy.
That Tiana animatronic is hideous. All of Disneys recent changes have been horrible. Disney really is the worst
i'm convinced that the story will include the riders being transformed into frogs (for whatever reason) and the ascension to the final drop will approach Mama Odie as she reverses the spell right before the drop. (you can see her lanterns in the concept art)
Maybe
If there's no Splash, you'll never see my cash.
6:38. THAT'S MY TWIN BROTHERS PETITION!! THE FOURTH ONE ON THE BOTTOM!! I keep telling him IT'S A COMPLETE WASTE! And IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
I don't think anybody has a problem with Tiana I just think they have a problem that they rethemed splash mountain with Tiana whoever got put in there would have gotten criticized because everybody liked splash mountain I liked to splash mountain I could care less if they switched it to Tiana and I still don't understand how zippity Doo dah is racist zippity Doo dah it's a beautiful day the sun is shining the birds are singing yes it was sung by a black man who was a slave but the song doesn't even mention slavery
notice how when disney released footage of the animatronics, everyone went 'I cant wait to ride this'
Disney knows how to create hype with just a glimpse of their animatronics - it's like they sprinkle pixie dust on us!
"an elderly worker on a southern plantation"
That's... exceptionally generous.
That's...exceptionally accurate.
There is no big problem. Stop the snark. The ride hasn’t opened.
I miss Maelstrom!
Maelstrom! So weird. So good. I rode it twice, and I'm really glad I have those memories
My problem is the name… too long! Splash/Thunder/Space mountain is iconic. “Tiana’s Bayou Adventure” is too much to say.
it's the same number of syllables as Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, and that is/was one of WDW's most popular and iconic rides. folks will naturally shorten the name the same way they did with TOT.
I agree! I'll always just call it Splash Mountain!
seriously?
@@melinatedthinka8210 Yup.
XD So glad I watched until the very end LMAO. I think your assessment about people's behavior and motivations makes a lot of sense. Plus, as adults, we're expected to not 'throw a fit' over 'trivial' stuff. Not understanding how you feel and having no outlet for it, added in with unexamined bias and privilege - that's a really stressful experience, and it can lead to making bad choices
Good Riddance? Splash Mountain is such an iconic ride, it deserved better than getting this treatment, replaced with a mediocre forgettable movie, that nobody gave a shit about since 2009. I wonder how many people even seen Princess and the frog in theatres when it premiered, I'm sure not a lot because of the horrible representation it had. If Princess and the frog was so popular why didn't they replace it in 2010? because the movie wasn't popular enough, any recent Disney shows they had Tiana on during that time? Paint the Night? Fantasmic? World Of Color? Splash Mountain has been around since 1989 and has made a cultural impact on so much Disney media, even the 50th fireworks, remember dreams come true. Tons of merchandise, iconic songs, hell rope drop of Disneyland has zip a dee doo dah playing for everyone to hear, even first-time guests who have never been on before let alone to Disneyland. Tell me this if song of the south is racist then what's Peter Pan? America was built on racism son, you can't eliminate racism it will be around forever, not saying Splash Mountain is racist in any way, like anyone gets off of Splash Mountain and are already offended lol. And Tiana is not "modern" she is forgettable like her movie and her songs, can't imagine having any of the songs from Princess and the frog playing around the park, let alone in media, and if it's "modern" then I'm sure everyone knows about Swiss family Robinson. that's a classic movie nobody has ever seen or heard of. Tiana's bayou whatever the fuck has some big shoes to fill, it will never be as iconic. I found a reddit article from 2018 stating is Splash Mountain Racist? 20 comments all said no nothing racist about it, but the movie is kind of controversial, which I find hard to believe too, fast forward to 2020 now the haters are saying everything and anything of Splash Mountain, even simply mentioning the name is "racist" Splash Mountain truly deserved better, one of the most popular rides of all time gone forever, destroyed because of soft people who get so offended by everything, there are worst things in the world than changing a ride, you people are to stupid, bitter, and angry to even realize. #RIPSPLASHMOUNTAIN #DOWNWITHTIANA
For reals. Peter Pan had "Engine Hunting" in it and is a HUGE fan favorite.
And the music for Splash Mountain made the ride the happiest ride in Disneyland.
Good luck, Tiana. Good luck Disney. You're going to need it.
"Good riddance" was a poor choice of words.
zip-a-dee-doo-dah is an academy award winning song. and w will never hear it again. because if we do, some child will say "what movie is that from daddy?" and the father will smack the child over his mouth and say "that's racist. dont you ever bring up that song again!"
🙄
Wow it doesn’t seem like it’s been 15 since The Princess and the Frog came out!
Last two decades have been intense ❤️
Crazy to think it's been 15 years since The Princess and the Frog! Time really does fly when you're having fun with Disney movies.
The good news is Splash Mountain is still at Tokyo Disneyland along with other "problematic" elements that the U.S. parks have gotten rid of. And Disney actually doesn't own a majority stake in the Asian country parks, so they have no say in what happens to rides there. My family and I are planning to go to Tokyo later this year and visit their Disneyland so we can enjoy that classic Disney feel.
There's no way re doing a classic attraction won't ruin it in my mind. They already obliterated the tot at California Adventure when they themed it after a mid ass movie franchise
I lost all my respect for this guy at the end of the video it was a very sad. its not that people are racist (which yes obviously some people are) but its because its lots of peoples favourite ride so people are obviously going to be pissed their favourite ride is down. plus nobody thought racist when they heard splash mountain till recently. And Of course you dug yourself deeper when you mention ariel bro she was originally described as white with red hair. in the new movie thats not the ariel we know it works the same way the other way around i wouldnt want Tiana being white in a princess and the frog live action thats stupid.
Amen he totally showed his finger pointing, accusational cards with that one. What a woke joke.
you’re awesome! this was so good! please make more videos!❤🙏
BROCCOLI MOUNTAIN !!!!
Zippy De Doo dah is much more enjoyable, sing along music.
If recycling the animal characters from America Sings was a top priority, I'm not sure why they picked Song of the South over something like Robin Hood in the first place.
I am not gonna lie everyone in this comment section sound like they're huffing copium, and raging for the sake of raging
I can't stand water rides where water is actually involved in making you wet. I have no issues with rides like Pirates or it's a small world. I have NEVER liked Splash Mountain. And, since it's just the same track, and ride building, I don't like Tiana's Bayou Adventure. I love Tiana and The Princess and the Frog movie.
Disney should have KEPT Splash Mountain and given Tiana a ride in New Orleans Square, but Disney is TOO WOKE AND LEFTIST now
As someone not familiar with the conversation surrounding Song of the South, I'm a bit confused. Could someone clarify what exactly is "extremely racist" about it?
What makes it racist is the fact that Uncle Remus, who tells the stories of Br'er Rabbit and friends depicted on the ride, works on a plantation. Even though it takes place after the Civil War, and Uncle Remus is technically not a slave but a willing worker, many people saw it as a portrayal of the racist idea of the "happy Slave" who loved to work for white people. It's a shame because the stories are from African American folklore and deserved to be given a wider audience, and if the filmmakers had just given the film a slightly different setting and tweaked the character of Uncle Remus so that he was an independent worker and not subservient to white employers, they might have been able to avoid the controversy.
@kaylumus1 thanks for the reply. I'm still confused. There certainly were happy slaves, so I still don't see how it is racist. Slavery was a terrible thing, but to try to completely omit the fact that there were people who enjoyed and even sought it out just seems historically inaccurate to me.
@@lucasd6880 Well, think of it this way:
There may be women who fantasize about or enjoy being raped; but it's still a horrible crime, and if a well-known company made a movie with that message, people would be rightly outraged. So, while there may have been slaves who were well treated and happy with their lot, slavery is still a crime against humanity that no company should try to soften or minimize.
@@kaylumus1 Maybe Uncle Remus enjoyed his job, he was free to leave anytime and did in the end. People should examine their misconceptions of the film instead of jumping on the band wagon of racism. Tiana is from African American heritage does it make it any better? She is still a product of the slave trade in theory, it was part of American history. American Adventure at Epcot celebrates the country's history from when the white settlers arrive with only a nod to the native Americans who are the indigeneous peoples, no comment on how they stole the land and slaughtered thousands, I find that more offensive than a singing rabbit and bluebird..
@@lucasd6880Stockholm Syndrome is what you’re describing.
I think the political angle is insane… it’s clearly that Disney was done with paying for refurbs and wanted to redo it with screens without getting criticism for it.
I agree!
lmao... nope. It's all the DEI employees.
"Back to the salt mine" as an advertising slogan for Tiana's Bayou Adventure doesn't sound like a winner.
"Bayou" is another word for "swamp." Tiana's wetland adventure doesn't quite roll of the tongue as well as the French word for swamp. As for diversity, the new Disney attraction can be home for all the African native figures displaced from the Jungle Cruise attraction--replaced by monkeys in the Jungle Cruise.
Swapping one bit of problematic racism for another doesn't seem progressive. How long will it be until Tiana isn't diverse enough? My crystal ball cracked when i misused it for bowling.
And to think that Tiana's Bayou Adventure sits on the former Indian Village in Disneyland.
I very much wanted this revamp to be a success
to fly in the faces of those who were being big insensitive babies about the whole thing
but ever since I heard the lame name / premise my heart has been filled with dread
The dread will be fulfilled on opening day.
My biggest problem with Tiana’s Bayou Adventure is the way they handled Splash Mountain. I’ve been to Louisiana a ton of times, and I know for a fact that there’s no mountains in Louisiana. Number two the people who were saying splash mountain was a racist attraction based off a racist are the same people who would wait an hour plus to go on the ride. I have no issue with Tiana having an attraction. I just feel personally she deserves a restaurant instead. Disney doesn’t really have any New Orleans style cuisines in hardly any of their restaurants. I thought having Tiana’s restaurant at Port Orleans would make perfect sense.
Hello! I’m actually a resident of Louisiana and yes we don’t really have mountains. The only thing really I know of we refer to as a mountain is mt Driskill which is the highest natural point in the state and even that is only 535 feet above sea level. The ride is referred to though as being a salt dome I think in the video. Now onto the restaurant there actually is a restaurant already themed to the princess and the frog in the Disney parks. Tiana’s Palace which recently opened over in Disneyland. I wouldn’t be surprised with it existing in Disneyland for it to be planned to eventually be opened in Disney world. It opened last year. As for the ride I am in an unsure position as to how it will represent my states culture and I am a bit nervous that from what I’ve heard it’s apparently boring according to some tests.
There is also no talking mouse in any of the 50 states.
They're the same people enjoying Peter Pan and the "Engine Hunt".
Bob Iger did the dry run of Bayou Adventure and was heard telling standby imagineers “that was f$&@?!g boring”. True story. Hopefully it’s not that bad, but we’ll see.
idk what he expected when the budget was cut by 50%
Source?
hardly no changing to the ride
I’ve also seen it reported multiple places that an imagineer made it known Iger thought it was boring as well. 76 animatronics down to 16. And basically just slapping fake plants all over everything. Just look at the concept art, they didn’t even bother with the cool looking tree and boat. They just slapped hobby lobby plants all over the out side. Likes like a giant bush
@@moneyshot6 yup plants, couple of new trees, old animatronics gone for some new fewer ones, and changed the water to shit brown
Disney can’t make a good movie. Pretty sure they will screw this up. Don’t like calling song of the south problematic. First black man to win an Oscar and maybe people shouldn’t be afraid of history
So then don’t go on the ride. Song of the South is a boring crappy movie.
@@abackus6546 i can tell u have not been on lol
@@spiked7663 I have. And Song of the South is still a boring, crappy movie.
@@abackus6546 movie is nothing like the ride tbh so why do you dislike the ride
@@spiked7663 I did not dislike splash mountain. It was a good ride. Same can be said for mr toad, alien encounter, Snow White scary adventures, plaza swan boats, time keeper, 20000 leagues and mickeys toon town fair. They were all good attractions. Anytime Disney updates an attraction is a win-win.
No splash mountain was not offensive in anyway shape or form. disney is just following trends
Frick, the animated parts of Song of the South were NOT the parts people found offensive! It was the live action parts people objected to!
fact
exactly @@PyroGothNerd
I just got a copy of song of the south. Returning after I watch it.
great song@@TheRealstarkHOUTx
Heck. Every Ip could become “problematic “. I hate that word) if one surrendered one’s common sense. What castle e.g. isn’t rife with intrigue, murder, unfair imprisonment and torture? Yet fortresses are the center of the international parks. Song of the South does not promote nor apologize for slavery. I think it collided with the 2nd A of NAACP. It was not about black higher ed professionals and instead featured the class many members were ashamed of. Hate of Song of the South is hatred and shame of poor farm people. Their African stories are embarrassing to them. The dialect is disgraceful to their urban aspirations. “How dare they sing and smile? They should behold their squalid state and rise up and refine themselves.” Ok. So what’s their view of the poor ignorant Cajuns in Princess and the Frog?
Tania’s dumpster fire.
This promises to be a disaster and I hope it fails.
This “update” is as disingenuous as it is haphazard.
Word is, the new “imagineers” never even looked at the blueprint and just started stacking and it shows. In my experience as an art school dropout, splash mountain was a brilliant visual design in multiple ways. The new imagineers don’t seem to take much into account, including the biggest glaring error:
I’ve been to Louisiana. The bayou is A BASIN. A CONCAVE soup bowl BELOW sea level (which was why Katrina was such a disaster especially to them). There ARE ZERO mountainous terrains there, all the trees are short. They changed the intricate fantasy landscape of SM with what looks like Hobby Lobby quality vines and leaves. They’ve clearly never even been to Louisiana or did any research like a competent imagineer would do, but I wouldn’t expect them to because to them it’s not the point. It’s about politics, disguised as artistic “progress”. The entrance to the queue looks like you’re walking into Ta-Fiti’s butthole, tell me how that’s progress 🙄
Even the ride’s story is dumb af. I could sum it up by changing the name to
“InTIANA Jones & the Quest For the Missing Ingredient 🥘”. The animatronics are being drastically cut, that can’t be a good thing.
It’s wild to me how someone can form an opinion on something based exclusively on what other people say when those people base their opinions on what other people say, etc. and no one has any experience in that actual thing they object. I’ve seen song of the south. The only thing racist about it was the era. The final scene of the movie has kids of different races holding hands, singing and skipping over the horizon. Wow, that sounds disgustingly racist, right? 🙄
Speaking of racist, *this race swap is inherently racist in that it low key implies that black folk only deserve hand me downs and the only way they can be included is by being given hand me downs, and they never deserve any original ideas, or make any of their own*. But somehow I’m the racist for saying so. Sure, Jan 🤭
P.S. Tiana’s animatronic looks sus to me, it looks like a reskinned Belle with a modified nose. More hand me downs, eh? 😑
There was nothing racist about song of the south. The accusations of it being racist come from the way the characters speak even though it’s historically accurate. Since Splash mountain didn’t have any of those characters calling it racist is even more stupid.
If you still give D your $ after killing Splash, you are a simp.
I had a great time when I was younger going on Splash Mountain, it was always one of the easiest rides to go on and I will always have those great memories, however Walt Disney wanted the parks to evolve and change over time it would cool to see what new ideas come to life, Yes it’s sad to see it go but it’s a new opportunity for change especially since it’s around New Orleans square. I believe this will be a new fun change.
RIP SLPASH MOUNTAIN!
I’ll always have the fun ass memories of going on in the morning then at night, fun way to end a trip to the magical place of Disney 😂❤
It's always bittersweet to see a classic ride go, but change can bring exciting new experiences.
Personally I’m a little concerned from what I’ve heard lately. I’m also concerned on how it’ll portray my states culture and I also hope that my states culture won’t become associated with a boring ride if that makes sense. I have some anxiety towards that.
If your state's culture is Florida culture, you have nothing to worry about...
@@drakirolopez7859 this rides based on Princess and the frog which takes place in/around New Orleans, Louisiana. Not Florida
Princess and the Log 💀
The Mr Toad comparison is great
Sure song of the south was controversial. But Im sorry there were no people protesting or boycotting splash mountain
FAX
Clover, have you actually SEEN "Song of the South"?? Every character is treated with dignity and empathy.
The biggest problem is it’s black, someone has to say the quiet part out loud!
No idea what in the world that means. What is black? The fox from song of the south?
@@drakirolopez7859 The ride is black now themed to a black princess!!! That’s the number reason people have a problem because contrary to the people who keep their heads in the sand and try to avoid racism all together it exist. All you have to do is read all the comments on youtube and X so will then see it’s because it’s “black” now…. If it was re-themed to a white princess no one would have said a word!
I'm black, and I think that this Tiana ride will be a colossal failure. They literally are replaced the world's most famous water ride for a ride that no one asked for....The ride creator has no theme park experience, The exterior theming looks tacky, the CEO himself during a preview said that the ride is boring, etc, etc...
@@overbanked sure you are and it will be a failure because no matter what the racist going to talk bad and down on it no matter what!
The assumption that those who didn’t want the ride to be re-skinned are either too stupid to understand their own feelings or RACIST is mind boggling to me. If current year Disney was the same innovative and creative company of the past, we’d be able to have confidence that a ride update would be an improvement that showcased cutting edge technology, skill, and care. Sadly for us Disney of today is cheap, lazy, and prone to cutting corners and “good enough-ism.” I expect lazy projections and a cheap new coat of figurative paint, lackluster music, and a nonsensical tacked on storyline. They take money generated by the parks and use it to fund endless crap movie sequels, remakes, and spin-offs while letting those very parks fall into disrepair. Whatever they do to the ride will likely be motivated by “cheaper and easier to maintain” and “get the PR boost if a new ride without actually making a new ride” the bare minimum. As a former fan it breaks my heart to see what they’ve become.
( Reposting from your newer video on the same topic : )
Thank you so much for making this video! Grew up a Disney kid loving Splash Mountain. Once I learned about its history as an adult i was absolutely appalled Disney opened it to begin with. As stated, the racism was just ignored for the sake of money. As we’ve seen these past few years racism and supremacy is so ingrained in our culture so many are blind to it and prefer to jump off a cliff (er, mountain?) defending it.
Additionally, Walt stated Disney would grow and change and here it seems to be changing for the better. I adore Princess and the Frog and can only hope Tiana’s Bayou Adventure lives up to the hype. So far so good!
Clover is a mouthpiece for the Disney machine.
no, no one thinks princess and the frog is a woke IP that movie was fantastic and Tiana is a great character, the problem is getting rid of such an iconic ride for 'racist' context that isn't even present in the ride. i loved brer rabbit so much when i was little, and seeing it go is heartbreaking. i love the vibe of critter corner as a whole and i wish disney could've just rebranded the characters in the ride and created a new movie with just the animals in it so the ride would represent that instead.
I enjoy your speaking voice ❤
😢. I. Love. Splash. Mountain 🏔️. Anither. Good. One. That. Goes. 😢
GO WOKE GO BROKE....DUMPED ALL MY DIS STOCK JUST IN TIME...BRIAR RABBIT IS OLD AFRICAN FOLKLORE....SO WHAT...?????
It was my dad’s favorite ride
I hate that Splash Mountain got replaced, but the fact is that a lot of the animatronics and effects were breaking on a regular basis, and the machinery was becoming outdated and pricey to maintain. I wish they'd just done a massive reboot on Splash Mountain to make it more respectful toward black people, and added a Tiana ride for extra diversity, but I don't work at Disney.
I don't think it's racist to be upset about Splash Mountain. The Brer Rabbit stories are still an important part of African-American culture, and aren't just from a racist movie. Plantation slaves told the stories to each other to keep their hopes up. Brer Rabbit represented the smart black slave, and Brer Fox and Brer Bear represented the dumb white slave owners.
Clover missed one of the early details where it was brought up that Tiana is searching for a missing ingredient for her Mardi Gras celebration party. Also, bringing Dr. Facilier back is a possibility due to how he met his end (See Shrek 4-D for ideas), but bringing Ray back would be WEIRD.
After watching your video I agree with you. This re theme of Splash Mountain to Tiana's Bayou Adventure is not only problematic to Splash Mountain in both parks in the United States but a recipe for disaster waiting to happen. Not only Disney broke a lot of rules and waist a lot of time and money during designing and building the new attraction in both parks but they made a lot of Disney fans unhappy.
Not only this is sad but this is also really bad.
A lot of angry people are going to get Disney to sign a contract to not allow anymore classic attractions getting re themes in the Disney Parks after Walt Disney's work.
Just because how this attraction and or even Mission Breakout is not as good as Tower of Terror or just the failures of this re themed classic attraction alone.
Ether way Tiana's Bayou Adventure is going to be one of the worst re themed attractions in Disney theme park history because everyone else is not going to be happy with this re theme of Splash Mountain.
Everyone is not interested in this because they don't want it and Tiana is a great Disney Princess but this is not the kind of attraction she should be taking part in. For Disneyland fans this is not going to share the same success as the Tower of Terror re theme.
The reason why Mission Breakout worked so well because the Marvel stuff that Disney is doing in their parks right now is very popular and Tiana's Bayou Adventure was definitely a step back.
Which is why everyone is saying no to the Splash Mountain re theme because everyone one is protesting and fighting against the re theme and Disney is not paying attention to the public. Everyone has tried to save Splash Mountain for getting re themed by making petitions and UA-cam videos to get the Disney Company attention to the public and everyone hoped that the re theme would get canceled and all would be well but it didn't happened with in a few months or a few years and we knew it was really bad.
In all honesty this re theme to a classic attraction is just so bad it’s unbearable. Disney is being very stupid to where they get rid of their most well know ride that attracts tourists by billions every year and getting rid of it because of a misunderstanding situation.
It's about time to get revenge on Bob Iger and Carmen Smith.
After the re theme of Splash Mountain in 2024 we need to remove Bob Iger the CEO of the Walt Disney Company from office and hire a new CEO to make Disney great again along with getting Carmen Smith Creative Development at Disney Parks Experiences and Products fired from Walt Disney Imagineering for erasing history on Splash Mountain and hire someone else to take over her spot and change things back the way they were.
The only way to bring the Song of the South characters and songs back on Splash Mountain in Disneyland in California and Walt Disney World in Florida is to boycott Tiana's Bayou Adventure, go on the new Marvel attractions including Mission Breakout in Disney’s California Adventure and give Bob Iger and Carmen Smith a run for their money.
The reason why I’m saying this because the Marvel stuff that Disney is doing in their parks right now is not only popular but by far having the best Marvel themed attractions, lands and other things that Disney is doing.
Ever since Tower of Terror in Disney’s California Adventure is re themed to Mission Breakout it was not only the first Marvel attraction ever built and it’s not only a success but it’s the best re themed attraction.
Not only that Disney owns Marvel which is why we have theses Marvel movies and TV shows on Disney Plus and Disney is thinking of every attraction and land they can think of for their parks based theses Marvel movies and TV shows.
Plus once Disney re themed Tower of Terror to Mission Breakout in Disney's California Adventures at Disneyland in California they cannot re theme the original Tower of Terror to Mission Breakout in Disney's Hollywood Studios at Walt Disney World in Florida. So that is going to be the only biggest downfall for Tiana's Bayou Adventure because the Disneyland Splash Mountain was not only the first Splash Mountain built in 1989 but it's the oldest Splash Mountain in the Disney Parks and with the Walt Disney World Tower of Terror when it was built in 1994 same thing. Not only that but another downfall of Tania's Bayou Adventure is both human and concept art failures brought Splash Mountain down.
I hope we will get some better people to work for Disney. Because right now since 2020 around the same year COVID-19 happened both Bob Iger and Carmen Smith have been doing some weird and not very good things theses past couple of years.
They not only lay-off Disney employees and Cast Members in the Walt Disney Company and the Disney Parks but they also made men dressed up like Disney Princesses and other bad things that's hurting the Walt Disney Company. They also made the park guest unhappy about the reservations to the Disneyland parks and rides.
Once more Disney can a great ride, and burry it for being political correctness
I think i must be in the minority because I'm excited for the tiana re-theme. I never liked the original theming and found it a bit creepy. Sorry! Dont hate me!
I love the mr toad movie it’s a short Disney retelling of the wind in the willows and I like wind in the the willows a lot I really like cassic advebture study’s s s animals
It's such a charming movie, isn't it?
The now ride is going to be a flow bring back splash Montana
I really like guardians of the galaxy a lot
Who wouldn't love dancing to Awesome Mix Vol. 1 with our favorite space misfits?
This is my favorite movie! Such a shame her safari fit
Thank you for sharing your favorite movie with me!
It wasn't racist. Uncle Remus was a free man that had the choice to leave or not.
Uncle Remus is the best part about the movie!
Uncle Remus was a farmhand. 🙄
Okay, yes, he was a farmhand who was in a situation we now realize is not good… but critics go too far in saying there’s NO way he would’ve ever been so happy or joyful in his situation, (which is, to my understanding, what they claim is so racist about it?)…
There are plenty of people who, even in not-great life situations, remain optimistic and happy. My grandfather, for instance was born in poverty in Appalachia, had his mother die when he was only 6 and was thrown into even more hardship, lost his 1st wife in childbirth and never saw his baby daughter again when she was given to her maternal grandparents who promptly moved far away… then worked like a dog every day of his life just to claw his 2nd try at a family up to the lower side of middle-class, and on top of that, was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis that caused him a lot of pain, (only slightly mitigated with medication), when he was around 50, before I was born. Yet, the entire 30 years I knew him (from when he was 56 till death at 86), he was the happiest, most positive-thinking person I think I’ve ever met. He was always smiling, always joyful and generous with his heart and his time, and often sang little tunes and told “Brer-esque” stories that he’d learned as a kid in the mountains… As a matter of fact, when I saw Song of the South as a kid in the 70’s, Uncle Remus was endearing to me and reminded me a lot of my grandpa.
Now, as a kid, I didn’t realize any of the backstory was problematic. And I’m not saying that there couldn’t be a discussion about any of it, or a message at the beginning explaining all of that, as there have been in other older works… but, (and this is me as a progressive, liberal person), I just don’t see what is SO terribly “racist” about Song of the South that it would’ve had to be buried like they did to it. I can think of other older movies that are way more problematic still out there for general consumption, (like those crows in Dumbo?? C’mon…).
Also, I’m pretty sure that the family of the actor, James Baskett, who played Uncle Remus, (the first actor to be in a motion picture that combined animation and live action, by the way), were against burying the movie. I would be too, if I were them.
Truthfully though, I’m not even that salty about Splash being turned into something else, as attractions at Disney Parks do get re-themed sometimes… But shoe-horning Tiana into an obvious mountain-theme when there are no mountains in New Orleans, (and the salt-hill thing is a lame stretch, to say the least), seems lazy and antithetical to what Disney Parks used to stand for. I would’ve rather seen them re-theme Tom Sawyer Island and the surrounding water for Tiana, (that might have been epic), or better yet given her a totally new attraction specifically built for her story. And then if the Brer Rabbit stuff still had to go, why not re-theme the Mountain to a story that actually includes mountains?? Lion King maybe? Mulan? I dunno… Has to be some IP that would’ve fit there better, (don’t even get me started on how everything has to be tied to IP these days, instead of just standing on its own - we’ve clearly lost that battle).
Oh well, I clearly have higher expectations of Disney than I should 🤷🏼♀️
Br'ar rabbit is also a blend of African folk tail mixed with Caribbean. It was done with love, however misguided people find it. That said this is a new celebration of cultures hopefully.
@@maggiethies3094 Exactly! I didn’t mention that part because I’d already gone on so long, but the Br’er Rabbit stories are lovely folk stories handed down in African/African American oral tradition, so shouldn’t they be celebrated? I liked those stories. People just go too far with the PC stuff and end up throwing the baby out with the bath water. I’m all for Tiana having an attraction - LOVE that film. But I think she should’ve gotten her own new thing, instead of just being shoehorned into that mountain just to cover up Splash 💦
This will be interesting
I really like princess and the frog
That's awesome! It's a great movie.
I cant wait for~ AUSTRALIA 2030 official Disney park,, as it will be a twenieth century fox~~ netflix park...
I'm so excited for the new changes!! I love The Princess and the Frog so much 💚🐸
I mean DCA's Tower of Terror fans can ride the exact same ride in Paris, just in French
Clover, no one gave 2 sh*ts about any "controversy" over Splash. There was never one protest or descenting voice. You are grasping at straws.
I love Splash Mountain because I love Song of the South.
Same
Walt Disney spoke in his own words about things like this. He knew that as the world changed so would attractions with new ideas. He said that Disney theme parks would ever be changing & addapting. Disney would actually have been on board WITH this change. It just would have been done back in 2016 to start! The idea of it was in 2014-1015 for Slash to become a ride for a black princess, not to be destroyed, but redone showing honor to the past, but also showing the future & what can come from its figurative ashes. by 2018 the idea was finished with the announcement at 2019's D23. But when the ride was supposed to close in 2020 COVID happened & it was put off so that Slash fans could ride it one last time.
Even the black community thought Disney made a racist film, choosing New Orleans & VooDoo as its magic, until Disney revieled that the film was made as Bambi & others were... by bringing black people in from around the world including Jamaca, England, Africa, America & more & theyt made the story what it was!
Sometimes a little research goes a long way to understanding. Then those who think Disney is WOKE become WOKE themselves!!!
Please your literally making all this up. Disneyland wasnt even close to being completed when he was alive and he never had to redo a ride while he was alive he just created rides.
Walt was super fond of the brers and sure the movie was controversial but the characters didnt originate from the film and disney continued using the brers for any promotion even releasing new version of their songs.
"Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow as long as there is imagination left in the world. Here is the world of imagination, hopes, and dreams."- Walt Disney
Nowhere in this quote does it show he would have been on board with it. Your just putting words in his mouth and spinning it your way.
Also how bout you do more research on the brers themselves their origins, and what the term what a "salt mine" is for this new ride.
I didn’t know that about the movie splash? What would that have to do with Disney
Isn’t that movie a little sexual ?
I always liked it watching it now on Disney plus
Who knew Disney had a splash of spice in their collection? 😉
My biggest issue with Tiana’s Bayou adventure is that by putting a date of when the ride is supposed to take place, they have essentially stated that they are excluding their two most popular characters besides Tiana from the
Ride! Ray and Dr. Facilier! Also hight requirement for the ride is not meant for little kids under 6 years old. The ride was meant for thrill seekers. Imagine all the little girls who are going to be turned away from the ride sobbing because they are too short to ride a princess ride. That might be an issue.
Uh huh, like seeing people screaming as they go through the drop like they're about to die wouldn't scare those poor kids more than the height restriction