Towing with a Tesla Model 3? Are We Crazy!? Testing the Range and Power While Towing an Airstream

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • We met up with Andy from Can-Am RV Centre in London, On to see exactly how he setup his Tesla Model 3 to tow a 26-foot Airstream.
    Can-Am RV Centre Website: www.canamrv.ca/
    #Tesla #Model3 #TeslaTowing

КОМЕНТАРІ • 781

  • @TruckKing
    @TruckKing  3 роки тому +17

    Hey folks! Have a question about range, legality, insurance or charging? Then watch our followup interview with Andy where we ask him all those questions for you - ua-cam.com/video/jB-olOdQVik/v-deo.html

    • @DylanBegazo
      @DylanBegazo 2 роки тому +2

      Can you redo the experiment using a 2022 American made Tesla Model 3? I want to haul a trailer too but I heard the newer model 3 has been upgraded with a different battery called the 4680 battery among other upgrades.
      Want to see if this video is still accurate with all the new goodies.

  • @MB-kk8px
    @MB-kk8px 3 роки тому +125

    Locomotives actually use electric motors to pull huge loads. It’s a hybrid system that uses a Diesel engine to generate the electricity. This should tell you something about what electric vehicles are capable of.

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor 3 роки тому +8

      WW2 Elefant tank destroyers were also powered by electric motors and a generator : p

    • @tommymairo8964
      @tommymairo8964 3 роки тому +6

      Electro motor can provide huge torque at low speed which is not possible for an ICE without gearboxes. So use electro motor to tow heavy loads reduce the chance of incident and the cost for maintenance, thanks to the simplified mechanical structures.

    • @drexrexx
      @drexrexx 2 роки тому +1

      Ya I work of union pacific railroad and I had no clue that the electric powered all of the loads until I got into training.

    • @yomomma1459
      @yomomma1459 2 роки тому +2

      now telsas just need diesel engines to make them hybrids

    • @orangepeeI
      @orangepeeI Рік тому +1

      It's not about electric motor but the battery.

  • @Dave--FkTheDeepstate
    @Dave--FkTheDeepstate Рік тому +16

    I'm not happy about losing a bit of that wonderful storage space in the trunk, but to be able to tow 6000 LBS is something I didn't think would be possible with a Model 3.
    Nice work!

  • @ronfeinberg
    @ronfeinberg 3 роки тому +81

    Andy is the "Hitch Guru". I've purchased 3 30' Airstreams from Andy over the years; pulling them all with Mercedes ML's. Customers come from all over North America to have their hitches dialled in. He's a Canadian national treasure.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 роки тому +9

      I love towing with Andy. I learn so much each time - Stephen

    • @pedalmike
      @pedalmike 3 роки тому +2

      Ron Feinberg- Andy's crew set up my 2009 VW Tiguan to tow my 2004 16' Airstream Bambi International CCD. It was the nicest rig to drive that I've ever had. Can Am really knows their stuff as you say! I drove 500 miles one way to get it done but it was the best towing investment I ever made.

    • @EarlBalentine
      @EarlBalentine 2 роки тому +3

      @@pedalmike Does Andy just have one location? any place in the US?

    • @pedalmike
      @pedalmike 2 роки тому +3

      @@EarlBalentine -it's just the one location in London, Ontario....however Andy has been willing to consult with customers over the phone with specific advice for your rig to enable a shop local to you to do the work.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Buy wknabego 30 eltrv rv 105 Ole rabgevresa cell 121 .joke r a bge

  • @ledzepandhabs
    @ledzepandhabs 3 роки тому +11

    I drove 4 hours to get my rig set up from CAN AM RV, let me tell you, what a god sent transformation, these guys are scientists. I went from trailer wobble to driving one finger in a wind storm. Warm friendly service and Andy himself takes you on a run after they're done and answers all of your questions. My Mercedes R350 hitch always kept coming lose, they reworked it, added steel and made her permanent. Great place.

  • @2nd3rd1st
    @2nd3rd1st 3 роки тому +25

    Impressive show, I'm not a towing guy but this was interesting to say the least. The Model 3 certainly is a more capable car than some people are giving it credit for. Only goes to show that with professional insight and know-how even unthinkable things are possible.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      All WV hybwr are auger no crit top ch iwf duck fake bu another nwsiq

  • @micwang7757
    @micwang7757 3 роки тому +15

    Never imagine that a model 3 can tow a big trailer like this. impressive!

  • @GustavoSilva-kb9jr
    @GustavoSilva-kb9jr 2 роки тому +10

    Wow! Really impressive to see these things move. It is pulling well over its limit and still manages to pull with no effort

    • @My_HandleIs_
      @My_HandleIs_ Рік тому

      ua-cam.com/video/BbiBXK5CLlw/v-deo.html
      It's all fun and games until someone dies.

  • @hikintrailsndrinkinales
    @hikintrailsndrinkinales 3 роки тому +135

    This makes me more excited for my Cybertruck. Tesla’s are dreamy!

    • @advancedscarecrow
      @advancedscarecrow 3 роки тому +4

      Why are they dreamy? Because you can’t do an oil change? 😅

    • @GT4viper
      @GT4viper 3 роки тому +5

      @@advancedscarecrow uh they don’t need oil changes? Because they’re electric?

    • @advancedscarecrow
      @advancedscarecrow 3 роки тому +2

      Duh I was implying that he’s lazy to oil change and that he’s exited to not change oil or something to that extent 😂

    • @wolfgang_h3t
      @wolfgang_h3t 3 роки тому +2

      Losing your roof while you're driving is hella dreamy 😂

    • @icepigeon1767
      @icepigeon1767 3 роки тому +11

      @@advancedscarecrow smh, but gas cars need way more maintenance and it cost a lot.

  • @brianthomas3354
    @brianthomas3354 3 роки тому +34

    so crazy to see a Model 3 towing a big travel trailer like that!

  • @AllElectricFamily
    @AllElectricFamily 3 роки тому +50

    We love seeing Teslas towing. We’ve been towing with our Model X and learning a lot. They are solid tow vehicles!

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 роки тому +3

      Are you just virtue signalling or are you actually towing long distance? They are not practical for towing at all. Unless you spend %90 of time in a city.

    • @RogerM88
      @RogerM88 3 роки тому

      @@ChurchInAshes how dare you making so much sense? Don't be surprise some fanboy appears here to conter argue you.

    • @VoxelLoop
      @VoxelLoop 2 роки тому +5

      @@ChurchInAshes I'm a bit confused, what would be the issue with towing outside the city? Generally speaking, Supercharger's are close enough that enough if your range is cut by 60% you'd be able to make it from one to the next with ease. (In Europe at least, in the US/Canada I'm not sure)
      Of course, it'd be a slower pace as you're having to stop more often, but you also gain some of that back by being able to charge over night to set off each day with a full charge.

    • @yomomma1459
      @yomomma1459 2 роки тому +1

      @@VoxelLoop yeah i can’t speak for europe but in the US its not very practical. 60% is generous most companies will tell you expect 50% of the range your vehicle normally gets.
      in the US there are so many places where charging stations are 100+ miles apart and you might not actually make it to one before your battery dies.

    • @loaded.357
      @loaded.357 2 роки тому

      tongue weight means everything and what read is 500 pounds is what tesla vehicles are rated up to so unless your camper is under 4000 pounds total your gonna be over ratings and that's unsafe and causes accidents...n I have 2 million miles of towing no accidents under my belt so don't even try arguing with me I'm a cdl holder so I know way more about towing then some UK idiot camper Dad

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 3 роки тому +8

    I towed an enclosed 5x8 U-Haul trailer from Columbia MO to San Luis Obispo CA. Car had NO problem handling the trailer. The only impact was the range was reduced by 30%. It required 5 extra 20 minute stops as opposed to the trip to MO.

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 роки тому

      5 20 min stops? That sounds horrible 😳

    • @thefish5861
      @thefish5861 2 роки тому

      My question, because I’m in the same situation as you, is how to manage the UHaul trailer on the back of my Tesla, at charging stations??

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Ues it kse

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 Рік тому

      Great info, thanks! I'm considering towing a 4x8 U-Haul, i was hoping to know the range degradation or the new Kw/mi, thanks for giving your input! To confirm, i assume this was a model 3?

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 Рік тому

      Also, was that with a custom setup like Andy's or a more popular 3rd party model 3 hitch like the ecohitch?

  • @TheWanderlees
    @TheWanderlees 3 роки тому +8

    We own a Tesla Model Y and a 22ft airstream. It tows great. We have a reservation for a Tesla truck but this is working for now. Looking forward to having more storage room with the truck. But the length will be longer if we upgrade to a truck and I’m not 100% positive we want to do that. Sometimes getting into the superchargers with our set up now can be a little tight. If we add length with the truck we might end up having to unhitch at the superchargers. We just started our UA-cam channel.

    • @harrygoldsmith5527
      @harrygoldsmith5527 3 роки тому

      I have the Tesla Y Performance & I was told the towing capacity was 3500lbs., can it actually tow more?

    • @davidew98
      @davidew98 6 місяців тому

      @@harrygoldsmith5527NO, legally it can only tow 3,500lbs. I have a model y and towed a 3,500 lb trailer last summer and it was awesome. I’m not sure how these people at can am is legally changing weight ratings!

  • @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut
    @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut 3 роки тому +7

    I love this. Thank you! I have 2 Teslas and have alway been worried about hauling with them. This made me feel so much better!

  • @skunkbucket9408
    @skunkbucket9408 3 роки тому +4

    Very impressive. I wouldn't have thought a car that size could be so stable with such a large trailer. The insight about the ratio of overhang to wheelbase makes sense. I used to tow a 27' TT with a first-gen Durango and it was a handful, always on the verge of oscillating out of control, and I burned through two differentials on a single 2400 mile trip. Even so, battery technology is still going to have to improve a bunch before long-distance electric towing becomes truly practical, IMHO.

    • @raycoleman3183
      @raycoleman3183 3 роки тому

      that is a very strange experience you had. I owned a first gen Durango and drove it 95,000 miles, about half the time towing an 18’ tandem axle ‘car hauler’ trailer. Towed on both interstates and secondary roads. Extremely stable towing platform. If yours experienced ‘sway’, one or more factors were way out of adjustment.

  • @mrnobody.4069
    @mrnobody.4069 2 роки тому +6

    I had this very fun idea which I really want to do when I get older and have my own property for second vehicle I'm planning to have a model 3 or a model y long range and I want to make from scratch a solar powered camper so when you're camping out it would be self-sustaining and you could also charge your car as well even if the Tesla runs out and you're like in the middle of nowhere just can't be on the side of the road it will be fine I gave myself this idea by talking to my brother about making a solar powered shed for electric lawn equipment

  • @Bryan46162
    @Bryan46162 3 роки тому +10

    Extremely impressive what you've managed to do with the M3! It's an extremely elegant way to move a travel trailer. While I'm sure you lost all the folks who tow for a living when the range/vs charging times came out, this is clearly a very viable setup for a retiree who just likes to RV or a family vacation.

  • @Albanianator
    @Albanianator 3 роки тому +6

    Good information on towing, especially now with more people RVing.

  • @ohioguy4326
    @ohioguy4326 3 роки тому +10

    Great review, first tow test I’ve seen with model review.

  • @nigelcampbell8460
    @nigelcampbell8460 3 роки тому +9

    Wow, that setup is insane. Thought this was gonna be vlickbait. Loved your Canadian touch on TFL, didn't know you split but looks like you have a pretty good channel going here!

  • @getlosttoday4045
    @getlosttoday4045 3 роки тому +19

    Just like the old days, smart man! Awesome video TK!

  • @Wingman77tws
    @Wingman77tws Рік тому +8

    I have used my model 3 for towing for years, and I’m not easy on it at all. I have been towing trailers up to 5000 lbs and it’s awesome.

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 Рік тому

      What kind of range of Wh/mi (or Wh/km) have you been getting on average while towing? I'm specifically hoping to tow less than 2000 lbs and wondering how far I'll be able to get on each charge

    • @702stormrider
      @702stormrider Рік тому

      What kind of hitch are you using and where to purchase please?

    • @Wingman77tws
      @Wingman77tws Рік тому +1

      @@702stormrider I am using the stealth hitch.

    • @Wingman77tws
      @Wingman77tws Рік тому +2

      @@johnm5321 I have pulled a 5000 lb trailer and gotten 400wh/mi and a 1000lb trailer and gotten 750wh/mi. Economy has basically nothing to do with weight, it is all about air drag.

    • @johnm5321
      @johnm5321 Рік тому

      @@Wingman77tws great insight, thanks. I'm thinking about a U-Haul trailer, hopefully not the 750 wh/ki

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 3 роки тому +8

    Fantastic!
    I own the Chevy Bolt. The only issue I have with towing is the charging locations are only set up for driving straight in, you will be blocking if you can drive straight in with the trailer, most likely you will need to unhitch and go charge. That will had 10 to 15 mins to your charge time. A Gas station you can drive up to the pump.
    Petro Canada has just installed their cross Canada fast charge network. But it is a time based charger, cost/min, which will favor the faster charging cars.
    Cheers

    • @TheDukeX
      @TheDukeX 3 роки тому

      Same... the Bolt also tows amazingly well!

    • @rickhall7955
      @rickhall7955 3 роки тому +4

      Many Tesla Supercharger locations are set up with a few stalls just for cars with trailers. You can also charge at your RV park :-)

    • @HCkev
      @HCkev 2 роки тому

      Yeah, they should design charging station spots the same way as gas pumps, where you can enter and leave driving forward. But usually they put charging stations near the building to save costs (easier to run the wires, no need to dig and redo the asphalt)

    • @hgodtx
      @hgodtx Рік тому

      In the Dallas area there are 3 Electrify America chargers and each location has ample room around it for trailers. They properly place the group of chargers at the least used part of a large parking lot so no one cares if you park whopper-jawed or blocking a "painted" isle.

  • @patrickfillion7193
    @patrickfillion7193 3 роки тому +1

    Got our setup done by Andy this summer. We are pulling a 16’ Airstream with a 4 cylinders Tiguan. The setup works great. Trying to convince my gf that when come the day, a car could be a real winner to pull our rig.

  • @jeremyspafford2520
    @jeremyspafford2520 3 роки тому +3

    Can’t wait to see your reviews when the Tesla truck comes out
    Great Job!

  • @wakingchristian
    @wakingchristian 3 роки тому +3

    I'm glad you talked about the increased efficiency of the m3 motors over the mx motors because people are trying to compare what the CT will be able to do based on what they've seen with mx. There's a lot more to consider, efficiency, weight, cog, to name a few.

  • @willywatsonburg5998
    @willywatsonburg5998 3 роки тому +1

    This was the last box the model 3 had to check for me. Great video thanks guys!

  • @bigchamp661
    @bigchamp661 11 місяців тому +1

    Super rad video!!! Would love to get Andy to set this up on my rig.

  • @davidberinger2988
    @davidberinger2988 3 роки тому +6

    Awesome video! I’ve been waiting for proof that a model 3 can tow a small trailer....and here’s proof that it can tow what I call a huge trailer! Model 3 can be ordered with a hitch in Europe but not here. Why? Did you have any issues with Tesla software sensing a trailer or exceptional weight? Tesla sends data back to HQ...have you had any enquires from Tesla as to your “efficiency problems” as the software might consider it?
    Love it that truck guys are embracing electric transport. Guess the Cybertruck will be a game changer!

  • @mikespark72
    @mikespark72 3 роки тому +5

    that is incredible! model 3 pulling 6000 lbs? wow, just wow. Is there anything that car CANT do?

    • @neubauerjoseph
      @neubauerjoseph 3 роки тому +2

      Just you wait a year of doing that will damage the car and require repairs.

    • @Weathergeekdan
      @Weathergeekdan 2 роки тому

      it's almost double what it should be towing, not to mention in a windy situation it wouldn't do too well.

    • @HCkev
      @HCkev 2 роки тому

      @@neubauerjoseph who tows a camping trailer all year long...?

  • @dannybailey2882
    @dannybailey2882 3 роки тому +22

    Who would of thought ?

    • @BigMTBrain
      @BigMTBrain 3 роки тому +7

      To save young minds:.
      Who would have thought?
      Who would've thought?
      To not correct is to degrade and lose ourselves.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 3 роки тому +1

      Locomotive Engineers.

  • @E59FF
    @E59FF 3 роки тому +1

    So nice coming down hills not burning brakes + recharging

  • @slickbelge
    @slickbelge 3 роки тому +3

    A large wind deflector on the roof of the tesla to match the height of the trailer would probably add a dozen miles to the range

  • @yorkchris10
    @yorkchris10 3 роки тому +3

    I see Tesla's in Québec with New York plates. There's probably a good network for snow birds to Florida too.

    • @whuang03
      @whuang03 3 роки тому

      Is not probably, Tesla’s supercharging network is the largest and best, u can drive anywhere in US and Canada with reasonable charging station distance.

  • @MichaelLRendon
    @MichaelLRendon Рік тому +1

    this is amazing! i am so glad I got to see this video. I was wondering if my Tesla M3 performance would be able to tow the smaller Airstream Bambi. Now I know it can,,, I have to do a lot more research into how to properly add the tow bar/hitch

  • @cocochanel9291
    @cocochanel9291 3 роки тому +1

    Andy set up a few trailers for me. Guy is amazing to work with. The entire dealership is top notch. But I am not sure I will be towing with my Model 3 ;)

  • @informationageenterprise2184
    @informationageenterprise2184 3 роки тому +4

    "Honestly he's forgotten more than I've ever known about towing" Lol

  • @seanz6586
    @seanz6586 3 роки тому +5

    Wow! I thought I’d have to wait for the Cybertruck. I should do this for my model S. Even though I hate to ruin the aesthetics of that vehicle.

  • @kobra997
    @kobra997 3 роки тому +2

    These are pros. Andy shared his expertise with me over an email. No charge. He helped me to set up BMW X5 to tow 33 ft trailer. Rock solid... despite all the naysayers around.

  • @sebastiant5695
    @sebastiant5695 3 роки тому +4

    Most of Europe is towing with Cars and small SUV, and not Trucks. Trailers are build differently in Europe - at lot less tongue weight. My 2 horse trailer in the North-American has like 250-300 kg on the hitch - in EU a trailer of similar size and weight has only 50kg on the ball. There is only 4% of the trailer weight required on the hitch. Many trailers on this side of the pond are running 20% of the total weight on the tongue, which is unnecessary.

    • @RMTFamily
      @RMTFamily 3 роки тому +1

      The trailer design in the USA is different and requires between 10 and 20% of the weight on the tongue to prevent sway at even low speeds. The trailers in Europe have aligned axles like the front of a car and thus wanting to go straight without the extreme tongue weight needed in the US. The concern with this example on the Model 3 is that they use a weight dist hitch which you can not use on unibody cars. These hitches are designed to be used on trucks and SUV's with a full frame.

    • @sebastiant5695
      @sebastiant5695 3 роки тому

      @@RMTFamily thanks, that is interesting. By aligned trailer axle you mean - camber caster, toe in etc.? I know that a little more toe in gives you greater stability. Since trailer axle are often solid -they have no toe in - they are neutral. You mean that the EU axles are curved?

    • @RMTFamily
      @RMTFamily 3 роки тому +2

      @@sebastiant5695 Actually a lot of trailers in Europe do not have a solid axle going all the way across from one side to the other. Most are just stumps about 15" or so long, that stump is bolted to the frame and it is basically a rubber torsion axle. Eliminating a leaf spring which can cause a lot of alignment issues. Many years ago I used to own a "Brenderup" 2 horse trailer. This is a design from Europe and the chassis was imported from there. It towed great behind a Ford Explorer Sport, a Mitsubishi Montero Sport and even towed it with a 1980's Toyota 2WD Pick-up. The tongue weight was around 150lbs. Did not need a weight dist hitch or a sway control. Some of the longer travel trailers in Europe might require a sway control.

    • @RMTFamily
      @RMTFamily 3 роки тому

      @@sebastiant5695 Yes, camber caster is key as these make your steering wheel go back to straight on a properly aligned car.

    • @sebastiant5695
      @sebastiant5695 3 роки тому

      @@RMTFamily yes torsion axles are great. I had those at my Germany trailer, but I also got them on my current US build Hawk trailer - but this axle is a solid square pipe going under the trailer. Those are the same axles as Airstream uses I got told.

  • @DylanBegazo
    @DylanBegazo 2 роки тому

    That Tesla Model 3 you’re using in the video is towing a full sized 6000 pound Air stream trailer! WOW 👁👄👁

  • @shawnswc2539
    @shawnswc2539 Рік тому +1

    For myself ever since I heard about Elon Musk and noticed his company Tesla his I always been a really big fan of his vehicles. And it never ends of surprisingly seen how amazing all his vehicles are doing on polling trailers on polling like now seeing you guys driving a Tesla 3 pulling a bullet trailer is just Amazing

  • @chriswilson433
    @chriswilson433 3 роки тому +25

    Someone needs to get him a copy of SAE J2807. Tow ratings are no longer “arbitrary.”

    • @AndreasDuessca
      @AndreasDuessca 3 роки тому +4

      irrelevant for RVs.

    • @mar232010
      @mar232010 3 роки тому +4

      Andy consulted for Ford on J2807.

    • @opfreakx7661
      @opfreakx7661 3 роки тому +1

      The only person that pulled numbers out of the air was Andy.

    • @yehudagoldberg6400
      @yehudagoldberg6400 3 роки тому +3

      @@xk302a A stock Model 3 will pull and handle better than almost any half-ton pickup. Only issue is braking which was most likely one of the upgrades he did.

    • @lloydsumpter7735
      @lloydsumpter7735 3 роки тому +3

      And I don't know about the US, but I believe in Canada if you're towing more than the rated capacity and get in an accident, you're in trouble. ICBC will certainly not cover you.

  • @msnstarr
    @msnstarr 3 роки тому +1

    Well, I think I'm now sold on the EAZ-LIFT WD hitch I was looking at..

  • @pauljennings7595
    @pauljennings7595 3 роки тому +2

    What's not mentioned enough is the Airstream itself. Airstream's are unique in many ways. A large part of why there is so little sway is the shape of the trailer. I pull a 25' Airstream so comfortably because both my car and the Airstream have a low centre of gravity and incredible aerodynamics. Can Am RV installed my hitch setup. Andy really knows his stuff, as do the whole staff.

  • @yehudagoldberg6400
    @yehudagoldberg6400 3 роки тому +14

    Very interesting, can't wait to tow with my Cybertruck.

  • @mrmista101
    @mrmista101 Рік тому +1

    what an amazing video thank you!

  • @99rambodog
    @99rambodog 3 роки тому +7

    I have a hell of a time finding a place to fill my Travel trailer/pick up combo at a gasoline staion. How do you get into a charging station while hooked up to a travel trailer???

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 роки тому +2

      Watch the second video - Andy shows you.

    • @mossybank2000
      @mossybank2000 2 місяці тому

      Most charging stops have 1 charger you can pull straight into rather than backing in to charge. Or you can unhook to charge. Not ideal but doable. We charge when we get to a campground

  • @peiguy1982
    @peiguy1982 3 роки тому +5

    Interesting but the issue of being over gross vehicle weight rating was not brought up. Is the owner one bit concerned that he has no insurance if there is an accident? What if someone is killed? Nice to feel fancy and clever in a Tesla. It is a pet peeve of mine to share the road with people towing way over their rating. I assumed this was a parking lot or back road test. The guy mentioned a 500 mile road trip? Wow.

    • @jockosboy17
      @jockosboy17 3 роки тому

      Where do you live that simply being over your rated GVWR excludes you from coverage in the event of an accident? Claims are processed all the time without taking GVWR into account and I know when trailers are involved many could be over the GVWR especially in the small business world where 1/2 ton trucks are towing trailers hauling tires, lawn equipment ect... All that being said if I were that owner at that shop modifying cars to help them tow more than there rated towing capacity I would be worried about setting himself up for liability issues in the event where there is a accident involving a vehicle he modified where they were over capacity.

    • @peiguy1982
      @peiguy1982 3 роки тому +3

      @@jockosboy17 Canada. Sure half tons sometimes ignore and are over by 500 or 1000 lbs unknowingly. The Model 3 is rated at 1900 lbs towing and this trailer is over triple that dry. Also the vehicle needed to be modified to mount the hitch. Anyways if something happened at a crosswalk this is not one I would like to leave up to the lawyers for liability insurance. Call your insurance company and see what they say about towing 300 percent of your rating. For my Ram 1500 that would put me at 24600 lbs. Give me a break.

    • @jockosboy17
      @jockosboy17 3 роки тому

      @@peiguy1982 Again i'm not letting this guy off the hook as he is really putting himself and his customers at risk in the legal sense but you made a blanket statement about no insurance if a person is over their GVWR and that is just not the case. Law enforcement would definitely have an issue to investigate if that model 3 was in an accident towing that travel trailer. There would likely be some legal issues for the person towing and if another person was involved they would have grounds to sue beyond what they are owed for damages.

    • @peiguy1982
      @peiguy1982 3 роки тому +2

      @@jockosboy17 Well I do believe insurance would be an issue this far over. This isn't just a few hundred over. Blanket statement of not its just my opinion and I would not be doing it. I'm sure Tesla has already voided this person's warranty as well. I'll leave the brake and chassis talk and just leave it at that. You have your opinion and I have mine.

    • @cndgb233
      @cndgb233 3 роки тому

      Read your insurance policy, it is a legally binding contract and they have to cover you. If it was the case that they wouldn't cover you then drunk divers that get into accidents and even kill someone would not be covered either, which is not the case. Their claims in fact do get covered. However, the insurance company has every right not to renew your policy once it comes up for renewal if you were to be sued. This applies to even standalone accidents not towing anything that they can drop you after if the claim is huge, usually through very high rates at renewal time.

  • @jsabanal
    @jsabanal 3 роки тому +1

    It would be amazing if the image of the trailer would be reflected on the dashboard as well. :-)

  • @boblorne875
    @boblorne875 3 роки тому

    Have my Cybertruck ordered and Andy will be my first stop.To buy and set up my trailer.

  • @gmat2545
    @gmat2545 3 роки тому +2

    This is insane, can we get some videos of a towing uphill and downhill?

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 роки тому +1

      There has been so much interest in this video that we are doing a follow-up with Andy soon.

  • @dukesins
    @dukesins 3 роки тому +45

    "EVs Won't Tow your Trailer. It's not going to Tow your Boat" Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. Just shows how politicians only look at things in a political sense and very rarely in reality.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah, well, he's rarely right about anything including how renewable energy will cost Aussie jobs, make a huge dent in the country's finances and, most importantly, climate change realities. Climate change damage to the Great Barrier Reef will cause massive job losses in the Aussie tourist, hospitality and fishing industries which is worth billions; "but hey, that's perfectly okay so long as me & my mates can keep in with our best buddies in the coal industrial complex - they do fund our political campaigns after all."
      BTW, was just using the Reef as one example. Many more in Australia.

    • @Stewiedude1
      @Stewiedude1 3 роки тому +4

      @@pinkelephants1421 the irony is that it will actually create thousands of 'green collar' jobs in the industry instead.
      I'd rather be involved in a role maintaining a turbine than a giant stinking gas plant.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 3 роки тому +2

      @@Stewiedude1 My guess is that you're far from alone in that. I've long thought that the Nullarbor Desert could represent a huge opportunity for solar power generation. There's bugger all out there, it's vast, and unless I've completely got the wrong end of the stick, no environmental reason not to do so. How it might equate to energy exports I couldn't say but I'd bet there's someone who could & very profitably too.

    • @rogerstarkey5390
      @rogerstarkey5390 3 роки тому +3

      @@pinkelephants1421
      You also get an improved ecosystem under the panels. opportunity for growing.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 3 роки тому +2

      @@rogerstarkey5390 Not in the Nullarbor. It's *so* desolate that even the extremely clever and resourceful aboriginal people never bothered with it because they knew it just wasn't survivable. Even snakes and lizards are few and far between out there.

  • @sophie-l
    @sophie-l Рік тому +2

    Impressive! Really well designed mount.
    If I need to move a ~3400lb car, what do you think of using a tow dolly hitched to a Tesla Model Y? Seems like it would be a good compromise to avoid over-weighting the hitch.

  • @garthkay-hards2427
    @garthkay-hards2427 3 роки тому +3

    Elon. Just wondering if you will be putting a battery into the caravan coupled to the car battery when towing? You could push the towing range enormously. The battery in the van would be your camping supply and would get its recharge at the campsite. I guess solar panels would also be included on the van's roof. Just thinking 😃 Great job you are doing

    • @bryanchannell7715
      @bryanchannell7715 2 роки тому

      It's coming the title spells sexy cars 2v that's everything they claim or have maybe this far ie model s3cy cybertruck , atv roadsters ... Etc etc a van is very possible and a camper yes bc the semi will likely be it's platform #bryanchannell UA-cam ;)

    • @vistagraphsnet
      @vistagraphsnet 2 роки тому +1

      A firm in Colorado that makes teardrop trailers does this and it is impressive.

  • @jasanmiguel
    @jasanmiguel 3 роки тому +2

    Outrageous!!

    • @jasanmiguel
      @jasanmiguel 3 роки тому

      After getting over my initial reaction, I'd ask do you have to unhook from the trailer at the tesla supercharger? I don't think there's room at these superchargers for both model 3 and travel trailer.

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 роки тому

      It varies, Andy told us that he often was able to pull around the back of the chargers and still reach.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Qeongw

  • @GreenNeighbour
    @GreenNeighbour 2 роки тому

    I was charging with Andy at a Supercharger outside Port Hope last summer!

  • @luiggi0102
    @luiggi0102 2 роки тому

    Wow impressed ! I got a model 3 dual motor I’m definitely doing something like this in the future

  • @hoapham7389
    @hoapham7389 3 роки тому

    I love it when you add metrics for the rest of the world.

  • @willaerley7140
    @willaerley7140 3 роки тому +11

    We need to hear from the Model S owners who have already had this done. Effect on range? Reliability issues? Unhitch everything to supercharge?

    • @sldghamr58
      @sldghamr58 3 роки тому

      following

    • @Nick_Smith1970
      @Nick_Smith1970 3 роки тому

      I thought the Model S wasn't even rated to tow at all?

    • @HCkev
      @HCkev 2 роки тому

      @@Nick_Smith1970 it's irrelevant, they explained it well in the video.

    • @Nick_Smith1970
      @Nick_Smith1970 2 роки тому

      @@HCkev I agree, it does seem silly that some cars like the Model S aren't even rated to tow at all, when they could probably tow very well. It's strange though seeing a 3600 lb car pull a 6000 lb trailer. Here in the UK, a general rule of thumb is that we stick to the 85% rule. So the trailer should not weigh more than 85% of teh weight of the towing vehicle, for safety reasons, as you don't want the "tail wagging the dog". But I must admit, the set up in this vid seems rock solid.

  • @Nick_Smith1970
    @Nick_Smith1970 3 роки тому +1

    Don't people in Canada / USA stick to the 100% rule? A rough rule of thumb that the trailer shouldn't exceed 100% of the weight of the car, for safety. Here, we have a 3800 lb car pulling a 6000 lb trailer. Also, in the UK, we have a total limit of 3500 kg for car + trailer.
    Also, does that heavy steel modification void the Model 3 warranty? The Model 3 only comes rated to tow 1000 kg, or 2200 lbs. I'm presuming this was done for safety?

  • @muskokamike127
    @muskokamike127 3 роки тому

    "I poke along at 90 kph" lol backing up traffic to the next province lol

  • @jeffdillon7202
    @jeffdillon7202 3 роки тому +22

    Did you ask him what his insurance policy states? If something were to happen, is he automatically at fault due to exceeding manufacturer limits?

    • @javiericardo100
      @javiericardo100 3 роки тому

      Will be nice to get answer. I know is legal in Europe but for Unknown reason is not same in Canada

    • @anthonyreynolds2365
      @anthonyreynolds2365 3 роки тому +2

      Insurance company could claim ignorance and put the owner at fault but it would be a court battle they might not feel is worth the risk. So hard maybe on that.
      Either way this is stupid if the owner gives a crap about his car. He probably voided his warranty as well and put his plates on full display exposing his VIN number, proving negligence in any drive unit or battery failures. The car was showing a lot of errors while towing that Airstream, Regen was disabled, Autopilot was disabled, Emergency braking disabled, stability and traction control disabled and I think ABS was disabled too. Far from safe imo.

    • @ianfaris2810
      @ianfaris2810 3 роки тому +1

      Not to mention what Tesla might say about the car's warranty. 😢

  • @MarkLLawrence
    @MarkLLawrence 3 роки тому +2

    In a couple years let's put the Cybertruck to the test and have it tow a 40,000lb trailer. That will be quite the show!

    • @rickhall7955
      @rickhall7955 3 роки тому

      Believe it or not, there is already a video of a Tesla Model X towing a Quantas 747 jet.

  • @kennethisaac3799
    @kennethisaac3799 3 роки тому +3

    That was amazing!

  • @EVtripper
    @EVtripper Рік тому +1

    Whoa! Great towing setup! Charging would be a pain, and that is some serious drag on efficiency!

  • @makerspace533
    @makerspace533 3 роки тому

    That's a hell-for-stout trailer hitch. The Stealth hitch is pretty much a bumper hitch.

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 роки тому +5

    In Europe you can get so many cars with tow balls that Americans wouldn't expect. With powerful electric motors instead of a small ICE towing with cars seems to be a really good experience.

    • @nicholassmith7048
      @nicholassmith7048 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, there are too many people in Europe using already underpowered cars that have no business towing anything. I see them struggling to maintain the speed limit on a flat highway.

    • @sharonbraselton3135
      @sharonbraselton3135 Рік тому

      Qeong boat wxoaece

  • @binlemakingartwithlego
    @binlemakingartwithlego 3 роки тому +7

    That's amazing! It's towing capacity is 2,000 lbs, but that's towing 6,000 lbs! Do that to a gas sedan and it will break!

  • @oscarmike4596
    @oscarmike4596 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this incredible video. I look forward to towing with the Cybertruck

  • @4dbandit
    @4dbandit 4 місяці тому

    My suspicion is that if you get in an accident and your insurance figures out that you have exceeded the GVWR, you will be paying out of pocket.
    Sure, you can tow more than the rating, but the rating is there for a reason, and it protects your insurance company, as a side benefit.
    100 mile range is not good.

  • @beamnggtworldchampionship8193
    @beamnggtworldchampionship8193 3 роки тому +2

    is it legal , or does the manufacture allow it, and if it if you get in an accident with the hitch you may not be covered in an accident

  • @TRYtoHELPyou
    @TRYtoHELPyou 3 роки тому

    This is awesome! Well done.

  • @pegefounder
    @pegefounder Рік тому

    I waited all the time for Wh/km. Wanted to compare with a video about a far lees aerodynamic looking trailer.

  • @danielsiffredi8403
    @danielsiffredi8403 3 роки тому +4

    what's the range impact . that's the key question I'd like to get a straight answer. thanks!

    • @TruckKing
      @TruckKing  3 роки тому +2

      Andy says that he gets 100 miles / 160 km on a charge towing that 6,000 lb trailer - straight.

    • @VoxelLoop
      @VoxelLoop 3 роки тому

      ​@@TruckKing To add to that, a full charge on a Tesla Supercharger, depending on if it's a version 2 or version 3, can be between 30 minutes and 50 minutes. Would be great to tow with a larger battery, maybe the Cybertruck will do a better job at this when it releases, would be interesting to see a video on that beast, maybe you'd see around 250 to 300 miles per charge as it does 500+ on one charge without a trailer. :)
      (The above times assume you're charging to full, not just to 75% like you would when driving without a trailer. Electric cars charge very slow past 80% so most owners only charge to 75% to save time on their journeys, usually that's only a 15 minute stop! More stops but less overall time!)

  • @Bourn3J
    @Bourn3J Місяць тому

    Wow. Impressive.

  • @fatwajim
    @fatwajim 3 роки тому +16

    I tow a small pop up with our Model 3. I average about 420-450 wh/mi cruising on the highway. What is your consumption like while cruising on the highway?

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 3 роки тому

      That doesn't sound too bad. Thanks for the data.

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ 3 роки тому +15

    The Airstream has to be way over the safe tow limit

    • @jackylsmith8138
      @jackylsmith8138 3 роки тому +4

      Tesla model 3 can legally tow about 0 lbs.

    • @alanrickett2537
      @alanrickett2537 3 роки тому

      @@jackylsmith8138 1800

    • @joec1978
      @joec1978 3 роки тому

      M3 is rated at 6K lbs, same for MY

    • @grahamleiper1538
      @grahamleiper1538 3 роки тому

      @@jackylsmith8138 M3 in Europe with factory (detachable) tow bar is rated for towing up to 1,000kg (2,200lbs).
      Not surprised it can tow a good bit more but legally we'd have issues here going over that.

    • @ChristopherJewell_me
      @ChristopherJewell_me 2 роки тому

      I just saw another video from the UK where they stated that the max towing limit for the M3 is 2200lbs. So, basically this video demonstrates how you can tow illegally and likely damage your Tesla while doing it.

  • @kimmbooo
    @kimmbooo Рік тому

    Wow great and thanks to andy

  • @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut
    @derkaderkamohamadallaackbarnut 3 роки тому +2

    Holy shit this is awesome!!!

  • @homeguy4
    @homeguy4 2 роки тому +1

    Being able to tow is one thing. Accident in front of you and you’ve got to stop fast. Nope you won’t. Too many people on the road towing trailers they shouldn’t be. This video is telling people the wrong thing. Safety is #1.

  • @bobbrown7511
    @bobbrown7511 3 роки тому

    So very interesting! Thank you!

  • @lesstevens2370
    @lesstevens2370 3 роки тому +1

    This makes me excited for the cybertruck oh yeah 😎 it going to be a beast at towing

  • @craigschoen
    @craigschoen 3 роки тому +1

    amazing looking for a safari condo going to call them

  • @hgodtx
    @hgodtx Рік тому +3

    Just curious if traveling on mountainous terrain, does the regen braking take care of the steepest grades? Or are you having to use brake pads to maintain speed?

  • @mikeg.9083
    @mikeg.9083 Рік тому +1

    Did i hear that right? a model 3 awd hauling a 6,000lb airsteam trailer???!!! 😂😮 Model X tops out at 5k max. I'm curious how soon it'll need a motors replacement with all that stress.

  • @chuckgrenci6404
    @chuckgrenci6404 3 роки тому +4

    For what was presented it did well, but I don't think the whole story was told (or known); tow ratings, safety, range, convenience to charge, etc.

    • @dutchneon
      @dutchneon 3 роки тому +1

      because that story is old..... you can devide your range in half when towing generally.

    • @stinson87
      @stinson87 3 роки тому

      @@dutchneon not exactly with ev's it is actually about a 60% decrease, 300 mile range to 100 mile range. But still not that bad.

  • @dw9501
    @dw9501 3 роки тому +5

    What were the kWh while towing 55mph

  • @usaexpressionusaexpression7450

    Thank you for the video!

  • @captainchaos3667
    @captainchaos3667 3 роки тому +4

    What does Tesla think of this? Does it invalidate your warranty? And what about your car insurance, what do they think about people welding hitches onto the structural components of the car?

    • @astroplutonium
      @astroplutonium 3 роки тому +2

      If the load you tow is larger than the vehicle allowed towing capacity and that is the reason that the motor f.ex. gets damaged then yes. You can bet your tushy that Tesla wont pay you a dime in repairs. As for insurance the answer is clear. Insurance will not cover you in case of an accident. That is the law. Everyone on the net can tell you ''it is fine just buy buy buy'' but it is your money, your safety and your life that is at the stake so choose wisely.

  • @mamyers171958
    @mamyers171958 3 роки тому

    Won't be towing with our Model 3. But this vid shows it's possible

  • @bro-ingbromeme1302
    @bro-ingbromeme1302 3 роки тому +4

    Lmao creating my own self driving rv lmfao.

  • @lorenzonine
    @lorenzonine 2 роки тому

    NICE! great "testimonial".

  • @miken4591
    @miken4591 3 роки тому +1

    The Model 3 was not designed for towing but can handle it. That is a big trailer. They did need to clearly specify the range they got.

  • @rossbowman202
    @rossbowman202 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder what JD from Big Truck Big Trailer would think about this.

  • @groupealliance9702
    @groupealliance9702 3 роки тому

    Can you please develop on the wheel base and overhang info you and Andy were talking about ... Would appreciate more info ... Thank you!

  • @FreedomFinanceFun
    @FreedomFinanceFun 3 роки тому

    6:40 crazy swirve with no problem

  • @loganholmberg2295
    @loganholmberg2295 3 роки тому +1

    Can't imagine you still have a warrabty after cutting that hitch in though.

  • @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190
    @nihongobenkyoshimasu3190 3 роки тому

    I wish Tesla still offers the light silver color, this would have been the perfect combination.

    • @seanz6586
      @seanz6586 3 роки тому

      That’s the color of my model S. Love it.

    • @DarrylCoe
      @DarrylCoe 3 роки тому

      I agree, I will order a X in silver as soon as it comes out with the new 46/80 batteries and silver to match my AS.

  • @pinkelephants1421
    @pinkelephants1421 3 роки тому +2

    This was just a random suggestion in my UA-cam feed but I really loved it including the change of mindset to being able to have lunch or take a nap whilst waiting to charge. I also REALLY appreciated the basic COVID-19 hygiene practice of mask wearing. Boggles the mind how people can suddenly object to being clean, i.e. hands, face, space (6') apart, & extrapolate it out to suddenly being a political statement. How can ANYBODY object to being clean???

    • @TDub76
      @TDub76 3 роки тому +1

      How can anybody object to the child labor used to mine the cobalt for your batteries in DR of Congo. Not such a clean process either. Total environmental cost needs to be considered.

    • @pinkelephants1421
      @pinkelephants1421 3 роки тому +2

      @@TDub76 What the cobalt used in the battery of your mobile phone or other device/s you probably use everyday? Far more cobalt is used in those pro rata than in batteries for EV's.

    • @TDub76
      @TDub76 3 роки тому +1

      @@pinkelephants1421 but i'm not in denial about my environmental footprint. i don't claim to be "clean". i'm all for EV's but they need to stop claiming zero emissions when they aren't.

    • @Neojhun
      @Neojhun 3 роки тому +1

      @@TDub76 FYI Not al BEVs use Cobalt. One of the most popular is LiFePO4 as the chemical formula suggest. Lithium Iron Phosphate has ZERO Cobalt. Shanghai Gigafactory is moving to that.

    • @ChurchInAshes
      @ChurchInAshes 3 роки тому +1

      @@pinkelephants1421 no one's "objecting to being clean" besides the dirty leftist politicians that are destroying our economies and ruining lives through endless lockdowns for a virus with a very high survival rate. The government should never have "total control" removing our ability to work and make a living and move around freely is as close to total control as ever. We have no problem with you wearing a muzzle just don't expect others to comply to your draconian nightmare.