🎉🥂💐 Congratulations on your no mistakes video. Thank you for opening my ears to so many things harp. Your videos are such a joy. Speaking of your hair, this current version is so cool!
Hahaha, actually I make lotsa mistakes, but I pretended I didn't :-D Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the videos! As for my hair, I can't wait now for the blue to fade out and become blonde, so that I can welcome Spring :-D
I have a Camac and Lyon & Healy lever harp. Impossible to favor one over the other. Camac always has a very crisp and clean sound while Lyon and Healy is bright and loud. I'm not sure how many Venus harps make it overseas but they are littered all over the USA in schools and people's homes. Everyone seems to have a different opinion on them. A local harp professor had a line of them at the university and they all were her fiercely protected babies. I personally love my own Venus pedal harp but my friend cannot stand to play it. She owns a Salvi that I dislike playing. Funny how everyone seems to disagree on harps.
Yes, everyone disagrees on harp🤣because everyone's got different taste. No here Venus are not popular at all, I don't know anyone who has it...I would like to try one someday!
My opinion is they are both quality instruments, let the player decide, because it's how they hear it that's most important. Thinking that playing jazz, or Mozart, on the Camac, verse the Lyon & Healy, because you think it sounds better, is subjective, your taste. Playing them, being close to the instrument, right behind it, is a different experience than the listener has. I thought they both sounded great and your playing was full of enthusiasm! Everyone who I've spoken to says selecting a harp is a matter of personal choice.
I generally agree about what you say, but there are some "general rules" that cannot be ignored. Playing some repertoire on a "wrong" instrument is stilistically and musically not correct. It's like putting salt in a cake instead of sugar. It doesn't work. We already compromise A LOT by playing renaissance or baroque music on pedal harps. This is wrong. But because of the fact that we cannot play baroque harps, we adjust to play on a pedal harp, although only harpists who play the baroque harp should play baroque music... So if an instrument is closer to have the right sound, the personal taste is surely important, but being stilistically correct is important as well.
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 I've heard baroque orchestras play period pieces and I enjoy the performances as well. Yes, Lyon & Healy's goal was to create an instrument that was an improvement in build quality and sound over it's european ancestors and most people feel they succeeded! Still, I think it's more the performer, who controls the style, not the instrument. There are people playing jazz on the recorder, an ancient instrument and they sound contemporary!
@@rovingeye6 It's true that the performer makes the difference, but I still think that the instrument is quite important as well, especially for what concerns the style. An amazing and versatile perfomer cannot sound right on a L&Y playing Corelli just because the instrument itself is not the right one! At least, that's my experience with harp. Maybe with other instruments is less noticeable. Anyway, for the example that you take, it's much easier to play modern music on an ancient instrument that the contrary. I played jazz with an organ for fun, I cannot imagine to play Vivaldi on a saxophone and sound "politically" correct.
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 I know what you're getting at Chiara, the older harps like Erard and earlier are not as "robust" as the present instruments. I have to give credit to Camac for making innovations in harp building with their use of carbon fibre in the neck and the use of cables instead of rods, and some very elegant designs. Lyon & Healy & Salvi, have a reputation for being solidly built, well designed instruments, with some of the world's greatest vituosos playing them and one, Carlos Salzedo, having an instrument, designed & named after him! That's perhaps the best endorsement of their instruments! I think it does come down to personal choice, which ever instrument you choose and the type of music you're going to perform. You could probably adapt to any type, but sure, the purists will always think it would be best to perform music from a certain era, on an instrument from the same time frame. Listen to a recording by Grover Washington called "Aria". He was a great jazz saxophonist who made a recording of all opera arias and I think it sounds great, maybe not as good as the vocal version, but still very enjoyable!
@@robertstone8852 Thank you for making me discover Grover Washington! I love his playing. Super warm and "enveloping" sound. I'm going to listen to more of him. I'm not against sperimenting- I'm the first one to do it- but, as you say, purists won't like it, even if it sounds nice. It is its own interpretation of an aria, which is perfectly fine, but when we come to "classical music" we have to find compromises (like listening to pianists playing Mozart on a piano. It should be played on a fortepiano or cembalo). I'm happy to have this two very different harps because I like to be as "close" as possible to the "right" executive sound, because to me it's ridicolous the amount of ignorance that harpists have about history of music (even "big" names!). Having said that, this is my own and personal view of the whole thing and I don't judge "less points" if in a competition someone plays Bach on a L&H...
Excellent point you brought up on matching the type/style of harp to the genre of repertoire to be played. It was most apparent when you played the piece by Mozart. The Camac definitely won hands down!
Thank you for your examples to show us the difference. I have 4 pedal harps and I rotate them to what I'm playing. It's amazing that one harp isn't right for every piece and style. A light soprano is not right for Wagner, and a Wagnerian soprano is not right for early music! So it is with the harp!
I agree, but in my case it's backwards. My big full stuff on my Camac Athena with an extended board, and my light, Baroque stuff on my Lyon & Healy Style 15.
I can hear the differences. I agree with you. For the Hindemith concerto, could you have both harps setup next to each other and swap seats between the movements?
The big issue with harp are the low gut strings, they tend to sound very boomy and lack definition. This easily gets amplified on harps with extended soundboards. While I love old L&H instruments (1970 and older) I have the feeling modern harps of traditional style get heavier and less defined in terms of sound characteristics. The biggest difference within the L&H range so far was my first harp, lovely style 15 with straight soundboard. Delicate sound, well defined low register. But could not compete im terms of power of course, so my next instrument was a L&H 23, 1990s. That one suffered from the straight soundboard issue mentioned before and also didn't have that very special "L&H sound" from the golden era (back in the 1960s and earlier). My next step was a Camac Big Blue 47 which basically is an Atlantide with pickups. The thing is - the thicker middle stripe of the soundboard (as it has to carry the pickups) seems to clean up the sound quite a bit which results in a bright, incredibly well projecting sound. As of now I hardly ever play the instrument amplified bit enjoy its acoustic quality. The only drawback: as the tone colour is very bright it is some work until you can control the upper register. Not an instrument for a beginner I'd say but a valuable high end tool offering direct/fast response.
Thank you for your extensive point of view! I actually don't like at all the Big Blue 47, I find the sound very "fake" (compared to an acoustic harp). So, at the end of the day, it really entirely depends on personal taste. The world is beautiful because we're all different!🤗🤗
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 You mean the amplified sound, right? If so, yes, it's a completely different instrument which cannot be compared to the acoustic version by any means.
Oh wow!......you can never have enough harps....I say...buy them all...you are so funny....okay...I am not a huge of camac however, it has its place for me because of you! Thank you! 🙏 🎶 🙏...I think you are brilliant!....I like your idea to play two different harps to achieve the right sound in a piece...you are right...go for it! 💪✨💃
Im thinking on getting a pedal to have deeper study for healing, you think between salvi daphne 40 and 47s which is good for me? Im a beginner and have a 27 camac bardic.
Maybe because I am American I like the sound of the Lyon & Healy. Not because it is made in America but because the sound is more closely related to the sound of the American language. For me I didn't hear the clarity you say you hear with the Camac. The Camac sounded muffled with the various pitches overlapping much like the French language! I preferred the Mozart on the L&H it sounded cleaner to me. I like the idea of the harp being powerful! I want it to sound fierce or project well even in more legato pieces. I have to say though the Camac is a beauty, more so than the L&H!
Hi, the Camac has got slight narrow tops, but no, I don't have any problem switching as I both play them quite regularly. A few years ago though I had to play the Boildieau Concerto and I practiced it practically only on the Camac. Maybe 6 weeks before the concert I played it on the Lyon and I noticed a lot of difference. So I practiced a lot on that harp and performed it fine. ...Nowadays, I would play Boildieau with the Camac.😀
My story with Salvi harps is not great, I've been practicing years on Salvi's during my studies and never really liked them. Everyone at the time was crazy about the Apollo which I absolutely hated. I have to say though that I've briefly tried the new Salvi and they sound now very similar to a Lyon & Healy, but I'm afraid I've never tried the Arion, therefore I cannot judge... I would love to try it though! Do you have one?
Hello , congratulations for your very instructive and funny videos ! Can you tell please which new Salvi harp you tried that sounds very similar to a Lyon & Healy ?
You're wonderful, and funny, I like it! I need a harp for pop music, and I think the Camac might be the way to go, what is the difference between the Clio straight and the Mini blue in sound, what is your favourite, I have a huge concert Venus, but I need a restaurant harp that I can out a pick up in, and it would sound good, I work at a restaurant with my band so need light and easy. Any difference in the tension?
There is a difference besides maker, the Camac is a straight sound board and the L&H has an extended soundboard. Would the Camac Atlantide Prestige be similar to the L&H 23? Or, would a L&H with a straight soundboard be similar to the Camac? Thanks ...
I did the comparison with what I have on hand... In my experience though, I find that makers tend to keep some similarity in all their instruments. I have tried a Camac Atlantide Prestige and I still find the same caracteristics to the Athena. Although the soundboard is extended, the sound is much smaller, less resonant, more precise than a L&Y. A complete different instrument. I've never tried a L&Y with a straight soundboard though, I would be curious!
I think its a diffiult comparision, because they don't have the same soundboard size and all that but you still did a good comparision!!! :) I always prefer camac
I know, I compared what I have 😄 Still a Camac with large soundboard retains the same characteristics, so it still would be a very different sound than a L&H
What you say might agree with your own technic wich is definitely very special : it is not true for another harpist with the french harp School technic who would play whith more articulation and more flexibility especially at the left hand.
Thank you for your comment. I'm sorry I don't quite understand what you mean though, what do you mean that my technique is special? It's normal harp technique I think :-) and what do you mean about more articulation and flexibility? You mean the hand or the wrist or the arm?
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 may be you could have a look at Catherine Michel videos: you will certainly find precious advices suitable by the way to all harpists. For example, The sound is Made by the power of fingers and not by the mouvement or the Weight of the arm. No Matter the harp, yourself makes the sound. Do have a look !
@@oliviertroubat Funnily enough, I'm not new to the French technique, as my teacher was Catherine Michel... I completely don't agree with your comment " No Matter the harp, yourself makes the sound". It's true that it's the artists make the sound, but if you have a terrible instrument, even the greatest performer will sound terrible!
Very informative and clearly presented. E sei anche super simpatica! Tra l'altro avevo anch'io un' Athena a tavola stretta. Andrò a spulciare il tuo canale per vedere se hai un video simile sull'arpa celtica. Mi trovo da qualche mese in possesso di una Camac Bardic 27. Cheers!
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 anche a me sta piacendo un sacco! Tra l'altro ho anche trovato il video con la comparison tra le varie arpe celtiche, super interessante, grazie!
I'm not a fan of electric harps for a lot of reasons (maybe a topic for a future video?) so I don't own any of them. I've been trying them both though!
May be you should make your comparaison between 2 same level harps, not a 1st price study harp with straight sounboard... 🤔 If you play and compare with a professionnal Camac harp it could be a real sound test 😘
Yes, I could do it if I had a professional pedal harp with large soundboard from Camac, but sadly I don't have it 😂 I've been playing them though, and I find that they retain the same characteristics. Also, I tried the new Canopée in 2018 and I don't know if I was particurarly unlucky but I didn't find it special at all... I should try different models again.
Camac harps are synthetic and sound like it. They cannot respond like a true musical instrument. They are not worth the cheaper price and they also tend toward being ugly. They also don't follow standards of string spacing and other aspects of a harp.
I don't agree, they're just different instruments! I find some models really good. String spacing could be a bit different at the top, yes. But not enough for me to be a disturb.
I don't agree with Camac harps being uglier. I find that some of the Lyon & Healy pedal harps look like an old fashioned curtain pole. I also do not think they sound synthetic. It's down to personal opinion I guess
🎉🥂💐 Congratulations on your no mistakes video. Thank you for opening my ears to so many things harp. Your videos are such a joy. Speaking of your hair, this current version is so cool!
Hahaha, actually I make lotsa mistakes, but I pretended I didn't :-D
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the videos! As for my hair, I can't wait now for the blue to fade out and become blonde, so that I can welcome Spring :-D
I have a Camac and Lyon & Healy lever harp. Impossible to favor one over the other. Camac always has a very crisp and clean sound while Lyon and Healy is bright and loud. I'm not sure how many Venus harps make it overseas but they are littered all over the USA in schools and people's homes. Everyone seems to have a different opinion on them. A local harp professor had a line of them at the university and they all were her fiercely protected babies. I personally love my own Venus pedal harp but my friend cannot stand to play it. She owns a Salvi that I dislike playing. Funny how everyone seems to disagree on harps.
Yes, everyone disagrees on harp🤣because everyone's got different taste. No here Venus are not popular at all, I don't know anyone who has it...I would like to try one someday!
Agreed. I own 8 harps--Lyon and Healy and Salvi and use them for different purposes.
WOOOW!
I’m a Salvi girl but if I had to turn to the Lyon and Healy side of the force, I would pick the L&H 100 ❤️
My opinion is they are both quality instruments, let the player decide, because it's how they hear it that's most important. Thinking that playing jazz, or Mozart, on the Camac, verse the Lyon & Healy, because you think it sounds better, is subjective, your taste. Playing them, being close to the instrument, right behind it, is a different experience than the listener has. I thought they both sounded great and your playing was full of enthusiasm! Everyone who I've spoken to says selecting a harp is a matter of personal choice.
I generally agree about what you say, but there are some "general rules" that cannot be ignored. Playing some repertoire on a "wrong" instrument is stilistically and musically not correct. It's like putting salt in a cake instead of sugar. It doesn't work. We already compromise A LOT by playing renaissance or baroque music on pedal harps. This is wrong. But because of the fact that we cannot play baroque harps, we adjust to play on a pedal harp, although only harpists who play the baroque harp should play baroque music... So if an instrument is closer to have the right sound, the personal taste is surely important, but being stilistically correct is important as well.
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 I've heard baroque orchestras play period pieces and I enjoy the performances as well. Yes, Lyon & Healy's goal was to create an instrument that was an improvement in build quality and sound over it's european ancestors and most people feel they succeeded! Still, I think it's more the performer, who controls the style, not the instrument. There are people playing jazz on the recorder, an ancient instrument and they sound contemporary!
@@rovingeye6 It's true that the performer makes the difference, but I still think that the instrument is quite important as well, especially for what concerns the style. An amazing and versatile perfomer cannot sound right on a L&Y playing Corelli just because the instrument itself is not the right one! At least, that's my experience with harp. Maybe with other instruments is less noticeable. Anyway, for the example that you take, it's much easier to play modern music on an ancient instrument that the contrary. I played jazz with an organ for fun, I cannot imagine to play Vivaldi on a saxophone and sound "politically" correct.
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 I know what you're getting at Chiara, the older harps like Erard and earlier are not as "robust" as the present instruments. I have to give credit to Camac for making innovations in harp building with their use of carbon fibre in the neck and the use of cables instead of rods, and some very elegant designs. Lyon & Healy & Salvi, have a reputation for being solidly built, well designed instruments, with some of the world's greatest vituosos playing them and one, Carlos Salzedo, having an instrument, designed & named after him! That's perhaps the best endorsement of their instruments! I think it does come down to personal choice, which ever instrument you choose and the type of music you're going to perform. You could probably adapt to any type, but sure, the purists will always think it would be best to perform music from a certain era, on an instrument from the same time frame. Listen to a recording by Grover Washington called "Aria". He was a great jazz saxophonist who made a recording of all opera arias and I think it sounds great, maybe not as good as the vocal version, but still very enjoyable!
@@robertstone8852 Thank you for making me discover Grover Washington! I love his playing. Super warm and "enveloping" sound. I'm going to listen to more of him.
I'm not against sperimenting- I'm the first one to do it- but, as you say, purists won't like it, even if it sounds nice. It is its own interpretation of an aria, which is perfectly fine, but when we come to "classical music" we have to find compromises (like listening to pianists playing Mozart on a piano. It should be played on a fortepiano or cembalo). I'm happy to have this two very different harps because I like to be as "close" as possible to the "right" executive sound, because to me it's ridicolous the amount of ignorance that harpists have about history of music (even "big" names!). Having said that, this is my own and personal view of the whole thing and I don't judge "less points" if in a competition someone plays Bach on a L&H...
They both sound lovely. I would find it difficult to choose between them
They do both sound good indeed, in different ways.
Excellent point you brought up on matching the type/style of harp to the genre of repertoire to be played. It was most apparent when you played the piece by Mozart. The Camac definitely won hands down!
Thanks! I also find Camac especially good for this type of style.
thanks finally someone comparing well done
Glad you like it!
God I love you! Your joy and energy! Thanks for all of your videos!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy the videos!
Thank you for your examples to show us the difference. I have 4 pedal harps and I rotate them to what I'm playing. It's amazing that one harp isn't right for every piece and style. A light soprano is not right for Wagner, and a Wagnerian soprano is not right for early music! So it is with the harp!
I agree, but in my case it's backwards. My big full stuff on my Camac Athena with an extended board, and my light, Baroque stuff on my Lyon & Healy Style 15.
Awesome! I never tried a style 15, I would love to!
I can hear the differences. I agree with you.
For the Hindemith concerto, could you have both harps setup next to each other and swap seats between the movements?
It wouldn't make sense to bring to different pedal harps to a venue, only if you're payed extremely well 😉
The opera Bésame mucho was beautiful.
Which would you choose for Tournier?
Definitely the Lyon, 200%!
Totally agree with your analysis
The big issue with harp are the low gut strings, they tend to sound very boomy and lack definition. This easily gets amplified on harps with extended soundboards.
While I love old L&H instruments (1970 and older) I have the feeling modern harps of traditional style get heavier and less defined in terms of sound characteristics. The biggest difference within the L&H range so far was my first harp, lovely style 15 with straight soundboard. Delicate sound, well defined low register. But could not compete im terms of power of course, so my next instrument was a L&H 23, 1990s. That one suffered from the straight soundboard issue mentioned before and also didn't have that very special "L&H sound" from the golden era (back in the 1960s and earlier). My next step was a Camac Big Blue 47 which basically is an Atlantide with pickups. The thing is - the thicker middle stripe of the soundboard (as it has to carry the pickups) seems to clean up the sound quite a bit which results in a bright, incredibly well projecting sound. As of now I hardly ever play the instrument amplified bit enjoy its acoustic quality. The only drawback: as the tone colour is very bright it is some work until you can control the upper register.
Not an instrument for a beginner I'd say but a valuable high end tool offering direct/fast response.
Thank you for your extensive point of view! I actually don't like at all the Big Blue 47, I find the sound very "fake" (compared to an acoustic harp). So, at the end of the day, it really entirely depends on personal taste. The world is beautiful because we're all different!🤗🤗
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 You mean the amplified sound, right? If so, yes, it's a completely different instrument which cannot be compared to the acoustic version by any means.
Oh wow!......you can never have enough harps....I say...buy them all...you are so funny....okay...I am not a huge of camac however, it has its place for me because of you! Thank you! 🙏 🎶 🙏...I think you are brilliant!....I like your idea to play two different harps to achieve the right sound in a piece...you are right...go for it! 💪✨💃
Thank you Carmen, you're very nice! Yes, I also would buy all the harps in the world haha!
Camac is the best sound, But lyon 23looks so elegant 😍
😂I actually don't like at all the design of the #23! ua-cam.com/video/rn7ywkS7Tc4/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ChiaraPedrazzettiARPAtelier
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 yeah I heard u said in your 23 intrudoction video, 😃
Im thinking on getting a pedal to have deeper study for healing, you think between salvi daphne 40 and 47s which is good for me? Im a beginner and have a 27 camac bardic.
@@essalove I'm not sure what's the best harp for healing, but I definitely would advice on a 47 string. I don't like 40 strings ones...
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 💗 great I will check on the 47s, you think the little big blue 44 strings a good one?
Maybe because I am American I like the sound of the Lyon & Healy. Not because it is made in America but because the sound is more closely related to the sound of the American language. For me I didn't hear the clarity you say you hear with the Camac. The Camac sounded muffled with the various pitches overlapping much like the French language! I preferred the Mozart on the L&H it sounded cleaner to me. I like the idea of the harp being powerful! I want it to sound fierce or project well even in more legato pieces. I have to say though the Camac is a beauty, more so than the L&H!
De gustibus....!
this--like all of your videos--is fabulous. and I'd love to see you shift between harps while playing with an orchestra!
Hahaha that would be fun to see for sure!
You are a wonderful harpist!
You're kind!
As a complete blind harp lover, I’d like to know, wich is this and which is that harp you play in the video? Thanks a lot for it!
It's Camac Athena versus Lyon and Healy nr. 23, which is the "bigger one".
I agree!
I love when people agree with me🤣😉
which is better for Bach? and for Debussey?
Camac for Bach, I would say Lyon for Debussy, but it depends of the piece.
can you say something about the different string spacing on the two harps? do you have any problem moving back and forth between them?
Hi, the Camac has got slight narrow tops, but no, I don't have any problem switching as I both play them quite regularly.
A few years ago though I had to play the Boildieau Concerto and I practiced it practically only on the Camac. Maybe 6 weeks before the concert I played it on the Lyon and I noticed a lot of difference. So I practiced a lot on that harp and performed it fine.
...Nowadays, I would play Boildieau with the Camac.😀
What do you think of the Salvi harps? I feel like the Arion has a well balanced sound that would be versatile♥️
My story with Salvi harps is not great, I've been practicing years on Salvi's during my studies and never really liked them. Everyone at the time was crazy about the Apollo which I absolutely hated. I have to say though that I've briefly tried the new Salvi and they sound now very similar to a Lyon & Healy, but I'm afraid I've never tried the Arion, therefore I cannot judge... I would love to try it though! Do you have one?
Chiara Pedrazzetti ARPAtelier oh wow! Thank you for your opinion. I will keep that in mind♥️
Does the fact that the L&H has an extended soundboard and the Camac has a straight soundboard make any significant difference?
Yes, it definitely makes a significant difference! Usually, the wider the soundboard, the bigger the resonance.
Sei fortissima!!!! Viva le Chiara arpiste simpatiche ! 👍
Da qui deduco che sei una Chiara arpista simpatica :-D Spero di incontrarti un giorno!
Gosh, how I cracked during the besame mucho part!
😂
Hello , congratulations for your very instructive and funny videos ! Can you tell please which new Salvi harp you tried that sounds very similar to a Lyon & Healy ?
Minerva and Iris, the ones I tried were very similar to L&H
You're wonderful, and funny, I like it! I need a harp for pop music, and I think the Camac might be the way to go, what is the difference between the Clio straight and the Mini blue in sound, what is your favourite, I have a huge concert Venus, but I need a restaurant harp that I can out a pick up in, and it would sound good, I work at a restaurant with my band so need light and easy. Any difference in the tension?
Sorry Mehlinda just saw this comment now! The Clio straight would sound suitable I think.
Which of these 2 harps is best to play pop music on?
Definitely the Camac. 200%!
What pieces would you prefer to play on the Lyon and Healy 23?
A lot which require a big sound! All the 19th century for example....
Totally agree! But I think you need a third harp…. Salvi 😉
The more, the merrier!
There is a difference besides maker, the Camac is a straight sound board and the L&H has an extended soundboard. Would the Camac Atlantide Prestige be similar to the L&H 23? Or, would a L&H with a straight soundboard be similar to the Camac? Thanks ...
I did the comparison with what I have on hand... In my experience though, I find that makers tend to keep some similarity in all their instruments. I have tried a Camac Atlantide Prestige and I still find the same caracteristics to the Athena. Although the soundboard is extended, the sound is much smaller, less resonant, more precise than a L&Y. A complete different instrument.
I've never tried a L&Y with a straight soundboard though, I would be curious!
Learn a lot from you, thanks.
I'm glad if I can help! 😀
Do you think I as a person with no light perception can learn playing the harp by touching and hearing? Thanks a lot.😊
Yes, definitely.
I think its a diffiult comparision, because they don't have the same soundboard size and all that but you still did a good comparision!!! :) I always prefer camac
I know, I compared what I have 😄
Still a Camac with large soundboard retains the same characteristics, so it still would be a very different sound than a L&H
What you say might agree with your own technic wich is definitely very special : it is not true for another harpist with the french harp School technic who would play whith more articulation and more flexibility especially at the left hand.
Thank you for your comment. I'm sorry I don't quite understand what you mean though, what do you mean that my technique is special? It's normal harp technique I think :-) and what do you mean about more articulation and flexibility? You mean the hand or the wrist or the arm?
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 may be you could have a look at Catherine Michel videos: you will certainly find precious advices suitable by the way to all harpists. For example, The sound is Made by the power of fingers and not by the mouvement or the Weight of the arm. No Matter the harp, yourself makes the sound. Do have a look !
@@oliviertroubat Funnily enough, I'm not new to the French technique, as my teacher was Catherine Michel...
I completely don't agree with your comment " No Matter the harp, yourself makes the sound". It's true that it's the artists make the sound, but if you have a terrible instrument, even the greatest performer will sound terrible!
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 how long did You study with her ?
@@oliviertroubat 2 years and a half...
Another amazing, clever, educational and absolutely hilarious video! :D "much more majestic, much more strong, much more soviet!"
Haha thank you for your nice comment! :-D
Very informative and clearly presented. E sei anche super simpatica! Tra l'altro avevo anch'io un' Athena a tavola stretta. Andrò a spulciare il tuo canale per vedere se hai un video simile sull'arpa celtica. Mi trovo da qualche mese in possesso di una Camac Bardic 27. Cheers!
Grazie! Ho anch'io una Bardic 27 e mi piace tantissimo. Divertiti!!!
@@chiarapedrazzettiarpatelie6470 anche a me sta piacendo un sacco! Tra l'altro ho anche trovato il video con la comparison tra le varie arpe celtiche, super interessante, grazie!
@@purplestringsmariamichelac3391 Contenta che sia utile! :D
what about comparing camac and L&H electric portable harps? do you own one of these?
I'm not a fan of electric harps for a lot of reasons (maybe a topic for a future video?) so I don't own any of them. I've been trying them both though!
Hi. You know david harp?
Yes! I've been performing a musical for a couple of months on a David pedal harp. I found them very good.
May be you should make your comparaison between 2 same level harps, not a 1st price study harp with straight sounboard... 🤔
If you play and compare with a professionnal Camac harp it could be a real sound test 😘
Yes, I could do it if I had a professional pedal harp with large soundboard from Camac, but sadly I don't have it 😂
I've been playing them though, and I find that they retain the same characteristics. Also, I tried the new Canopée in 2018 and I don't know if I was particurarly unlucky but I didn't find it special at all... I should try different models again.
L&H blows away the Camac anytime!
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Steinway!!!!!
...for ever!
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why not use two harps to play one piece? I like that idea...
Let me know how it goes!
Camac harps are synthetic and sound like it. They cannot respond like a true musical instrument. They are not worth the cheaper price and they also tend toward being ugly. They also don't follow standards of string spacing and other aspects of a harp.
I don't agree, they're just different instruments! I find some models really good. String spacing could be a bit different at the top, yes. But not enough for me to be a disturb.
I don't agree with Camac harps being uglier. I find that some of the Lyon & Healy pedal harps look like an old fashioned curtain pole. I also do not think they sound synthetic. It's down to personal opinion I guess